Comments by "WaterspoutsOfTheDeep" (@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep) on "Today I Found Out" channel.

  1. I mean it's 2023, the historicity of Jesus has long been established. Only a fool would deny Jesus at this point.
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  2. That's ridiculous. Tacitus was known as the historian of Rome. It doesn't get any better than him. He was also a hostile source. Scholars think he had access to official roman records to make his historical accounts. Meaning he likely read Pilates own report on Jesus which we don't have access to now. Also makes no sense Pilate would be coerced given after the great fire of Rome lie everyone was made to hate Christians. Tacitus record was not a positive one for Jesus. So you are making no sense.
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  3. Tacitus is the only outside source one even needs. Doesn't get any better than the "historian of Rome." Scholars think he had access to roman documents which is how he was so accurate and reliable, meaning he likely based his historical records on information found from the official records of Pilate himself. It pretty much couldn't get any better than Tacitus as an outside hostile source. So i don't get why people always mention Josephus lol. Nor mention the literal Talmud of the sentencing record against Jesus who was sentenced to death for sorcery and blasphemy. Just as the text says he did miracles and said he was God.
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  4.  @paganphil100  Nonsense. Every day of the year has a pagan holiday from somewhere. People from various cultures mixing cultures doesn't equate to the premise of said holiday being pagan in nature. Hint hint there is a reason Good Friday is on Passover.
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  5. iodine. end of story.
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  6. You are parroting the zeitgeist nonsense that was a cash grab by the author and fabricated. None of that has any relation to Christianity. The historicity of Jesus has long been established.
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  7.  @davidagiel8130  Nothing is based on the sun. Son of God means God incarnate. You misunderstood.
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  8.  @davidagiel8130  Your ignorance isn't mine. Pretending rhyming words somehow relate is patently ridiculous. Secondly the prophecy of Jesus was all throughout the old testament. As is the person of Jesus before his incarnate transformation. It's all consistent. Read Jude 5 Jesus literally says he was the God that was with Israel and Moses when he led them out of Egypt and defeated their foes. Who we see as Jesus is consistent across scripture which I remind you is dozens of books by multiple authors across thousands of years multiple continents and languages. Here are some examples. Like Abraham and Isaac. Abraham represents the Father, Issac represents the Son, Issac carried the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill, Jesus carried the cross the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill of Calvary. As Abraham was about to kill Issac God said no I will provide the sacrifice and gave a ram. Jesus is called the lamb of God and was the Fathers sacrifice for all of our sin because the bible says the work of the cross was the Fathers idea, remember Jesus praying not my will but yours be done. The son obeyed the will of the father. There is the story of Israel in the desert becoming diseased and God telling them to put a serpent on a wooden pole and to look at it and be healed. The wooden pole is the cross and the serpent represent sin destroyed on the cross. The story of Ruth of Jew and Gentile coming together. Ruth was a Gentile who became part of the genetic linage of Jesus on his mothers side, the side promised to bring him into the world. Just like Jesus brought Jew and Gentile together with his work. The story of Joseph representing Jesus being betrayed by his brothers representing the disciples who all denied Jesus on the cross and put him in a hole for 3 days like Jesus was dead for 3 days and then came out/resurrected. There is the story of the prophet Hosea. One of the best representations of Jesus. Hosea means savior. God tells Hosea to marry Gomer a prostitute. They have a child named Jezrial which means planted by God. Gomer then sleeps around and has two children by other men Lo Ruhamah which means no mercy and Lo Ammi which means not my people. Gomer leaves Hosea and the children stay with him and Hosea calls them Ruhamah meaning he will have mercy, and Ammi my people. He was upset and told the children to tell Gomer to come home. God says to Hosea no she won't respond to that. The bible says sleeping around and people who become drunks takes away their affection. But God says I'm going to make her instead repulsive to her lovers, and suddenly no one wants to be with her. She now has no money and she then is put on a slave block. Hosea goes to the slave block and buys her back. He says to Gomer you are not going to call me master instead I'm to be your husband. The perfect picture of redemption of Jesus buying us back from our sins saying I don't want to be your master I want to be your lover. It is one of the most beautiful pictures given in the bible. The bible outlines both prayer and the person of Jesus in the description of the tabernacle as Jesus is the bodily fulfilment of the ceremonal law The gate(enter into his presence with worship and praise), Jesus is the gate, the 4 colors on the gate represents the 4 positions Jesus holds, as outlined in the four gospels which also is represented in the four faces on the cherub/living creature(which purpose is to protect God's glory) and the nature of each face on the creature. Scarlet=Luke=Savior=face of man, Purple=Mathew=King=face of lion(authority), White=Mark=Perfect Man=face of ox(servant/sacrifice), Blue=John=Son of God=face of eagle(divinity). The the outercourt is where we cleanse ourselves to come into his presence the alter of sacrifice we cleanse ourselves with his blood he is the lamb, the laver he is the purifying word that washes us, represented also when blood and water poured out from his side when he was pierced by the spear. The outercourt represents one of 3 realms of prayer as outlined by Jesus. Knock(holy of holies), seek(holy place), ask(outercourt). Outercourt is the asking because that is where you make your requests known to the Lord. The Holy place, table of shobread Jesus is the bread, the life. The lamp stand, Jesus is the light, the way. The incense, Jesus is our High Priest in constant intersession for us our prayers go through him, insense represents prayer in the bible. Then the Holy of Holies the ark of the covenant, he is our covenant, the mercy seat stained with blood. When the the priest once a year dipped his robe in blood when he went into the Holy of Holies so a stream of blood was behind him whereever he walked, he went to each piece of furniture which then made a line on the ground of blood and it made the shape of the cross because of the positioning of all the furniture in the cross shape if you looked from above and then you'd see then this large blood outline of the cross. Jesus of course died on the cross for our sins and shed his blood, so a blood cross is a perfect representation. Every pole holding up the wall of the tabernacle had silver and brass on it speaking of redemption and suffering, the pole of wood speaks of his physical flesh his body it is acacia wood meaning eternal flesh the rope connected to the pole is made out of goats hair that had 11 strands of it in the rope, 11 is the number of destruction and goats hair speaks of sin, he destroyed our sin. The nail in the ground connected to the rope is brass, God said it should only be half way in the ground and half way out. Jesus is called the nail in Isaiah 22:23, and half in half out means he died and rose again.
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  9. well soup is made from gelatin, clearly it's a meal item not a dessert. have you you never cooked meat and made soup stock with the left over liquid which if you put in the fridge is clearly full of gelatin? It's called bone broth soup, people have been making it forever lol.
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  10. Except unlike Buddism, Christianity never magically had it's texts show up 600 years after the person.
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  11. Yet Jesus wanted nothing to do with such a thing. Like He made clear to Pilate, my kingdom is not of this world. He did not want anyone taking up arms for him.
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  12.  @mouthpiece200  Correct it does have conflicting narratives if you refuse to establish the context of what you read. Honest people don't propose such disingenuous arguments. If you truly believe such a thing, then try googling a commentary if you struggle that much.
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  13. You are way off. There is only a small portion of Josephus writings that was interpolated which is widely known and long after the fact by likely a monk thinking they were helping. WE HAVE FOUND the original non-interpolated version awhile ago. Your information is wildly out of date Mark. So no Josephus never made it up nor was it an interpolation in it's entirety. It was one tiny sentence long after the fact.
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  14.  @druidriley3163  No.
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  15.  Antony Stringfellow  The Gospels/New Testament were not written long after the death and resurrection of Jesus. They were all within decades after as would be expected, all first century and likely quite early given the context of their content not writing about major events later in the first century such as the great fire of rome lie blaming Christians causing serious and widespread hate against Christians not being mentioned and so on.
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  16.  @LowenKM  Truth is exclusive not all inclusive. Bias is irrelevant.
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  17.  @alphonsemaina8293  The evidence is not flimsy lmao. Name some of it I bet you don't even know the conversation based on your ignorant statements. What is fictional about the bible? The historicity of the biblical text and it's divine inspiration is actually exemplary. You have the audacity to point your finger while believing in a mythology of magic and coming from the intellectual, scientific, moral, and logical low ground, from a modern world created and given to you by Christianity including universities, scientific method, modern science. You are utterly ridiculous! Atheism: "A magical nothing created everything and when I die I become nothing, becoming one again with my creator." lmao that's your worldview not mine. Atheism is a mythology of magic, rationality from irrationality. Atheism has been killed by science. Ones rational mind that you need to defend your position can't even be a product of Atheism! It's self defeating! Atheism is a belief of blind faith that goes against the paradigm of reality that mind is required for creation. Does the author or video game programmer make something out of nothing with magic? No they use their mind. Is the mind immaterial? Yes. Does that mean it's magic? No. Is information immaterial? Yes. Does that mean it's magic? No. Mind>magic. Science does not support the view the universe is a closed system and events can't be fed in aka miracles, that's your blind faith. Believe in magic all you want but don't pretend your illogical pseudo science worldview is the high ground to argue from when it's utter nonsense and self defeating it's so absurd haha.😄😄😄
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  18. Continuity is an important factor.
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  19. Just remember kids random unguided process magically created such a sophisticated process without extinction occurring. The mutation lottery was won billions of times in a row.
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  20. Why didbn't they just use felt tipped markers?
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  21. iodine is probably the best of the cheap options. the only issue is it can stain clothes.
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  22. It wasn't in the budget to show us first hand lol.
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  23. I'll answer that right now for you. They don't which is why so many people get more sick after they go to the hospital. It's only been in the last few years there has been a product that can actually properly sanitize hospitals from MRSA and ebola and lyme and all the nasty shit. It's some kind of special colloidal silver spray called steriplex. It's literally the only effective sanitation product/practice that can be used. UV machines used in hospital rooms aren't even remotely as effective. And it's so safe you can inhale it, it's a huge medical breakthrough honestly.
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  24. that's the same with almost anything. really doesn't matter once it's fully processed all that's left is that specific compound. it's like all the nut jobs talking about how they won't consume vitamin C made from gmo corn which is pure retardation lmao.
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  25. So you are one of those nut jobs. Clearly your judgment is impaired if you can't tell the difference between what nature meant for nourishment and waste. Gelatin is literally one of the most nutritious foods you can possibly eat and there is no vegetarian equivalent. Gelatin has first and foremost always been used heavily as a health food not a "fun play toy food for kids." It's always the wack jobs like you who are the least educated on the topics they purport to know about.
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  26. Or they are running out of material to make daily videos to get those views and money which is more likely the case. It's a business for these people after all. But I agree if they advertise as one thing then put out content such as this it is annoying.
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  27. It hasn't those animals were already used for something else. So it's like the native americans did, make use out of everything. Which what more could you want? It would be a shame to waste such a nutritional product. You realize gelatin is one of the healthiest things you can possibly eat right?
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  28. lmao no it isn't.
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  29. That's an argument of a child.
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  30. + boLin no you are thinking of that new age cult called veganism.
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  31. You probably wont want to eat or use many other household products if you can't handle knowing gelatin is from animals lol. fyi it's processed so heavily all that's left is the compound gelatin when they are done. it's like the idiots who think it matters if vitamin C is made from gmo corn or not, ascorbic acid is ascorbic acid no matter where it came from.
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  32.  @davidagiel8130  You sound ridiculous. The historicity of Jesus has long been established. It is exactly how Callabeth presented.
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  33.  @endersdragon34  The Gospels were not written way after Jesus, they were all within decades, within the century. As would be expected. Nothing is out of the ordinary there. The context in the books attests to them actually being written very close given they don't detail the great fire of Rome or other events that would have been mentioned if they were written alter. The accuracy of the biblical text now 2000 years later has long been researched and verified where able to do so. It is exactly not what you presented and gave zero evidence for. The dates, times, places and so on are accurate.
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  34.  @graydenday3760  So you got brainwashed as you grew up. The historicity of Jesus has long been established. He is quite literally the most influential person in human history. You sound patently moronic.
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  35.  @ramigilneas9274  You seem confused. That makes zero sense with historical record. The disciples who saw Jesus perform miracles like walk on water, raise the dead, and resurrect himself. They all denied Jesus on the cross. Christianity would have stayed dead on the cross with Jesus if not for Pentecost. Because that is when the Holy Spirit came whose promise is to reveal and make Jesus real. More real than when he stood physically in person infront of the disciples. It was only then they would rather give their lives than deny Jesus which they did. It was only then hundreds of thousands would willingly die as martyrs than deny Jesus because it was only by the Holy Spirit that who he is was made real. When even the disciples all denied him prior. These sequence of events are what lead to the explosion of Christianity right after instead of during the ministry of Christ. There was no cohesive unity of a set group of people fabricating a story. Everyone went their separate way with their own testimony spreading the Good News and those disciples were martyred. That is where the term martyr comes from with all those early Christians killed for not denying Jesus. Christianity was organically formed and spread. The term Christian came later, as an insult. Christianity isn't some thing of it's own. The New Testament is the New Covenant, the last one given. Christians are essentially true Jews if we want to keep it real because they adopted the New Covenant. You can call them Messianic Jews if you want to distinguish. So of course there is relation to the old testament, it's all scripture. Did Jews or the scripture prior to the last covenant before the New covenant cease to exist or be scripture? No. So why pretend like it did with the New Covenant, it never. It just superseded the old one like the others did.
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  36. lmao that's ridiculous bodybuilders have used gelatin for decades and before whey because it's near a complete protein and very high bioavalibility. I believe it was also used back in the day for sick people with muscle wasting. The reason it's not used as much is because it's much more expensive than whey protein and it thickens which doesn't make it a good drink as a sole protein source in your drink unless you down it.
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  37. That sounds ridiculous. The historicity of Jesus has long been established.
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  38.  @Erborne1979  Tacitus and Talmud clearly hold up. As do the first hand accounts in the bible. Nasa has flat out proven the eclipse happened and practically down to the minute the duration was noted in the text and time of day. List goes on and on. Far less the 100% accuracy of prophecy, and over 100 Jesus fulfilled. No scholar worth their salt denies the historicity of Jesus and hasn't for all of history. You sound absurd.
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  39. More time passes more evidence we have. People used to say Caiaphas the high priest that brought charges against Jesus and Pilate weren't real. Yet within the last decade or so we found the grave of Caiaphas and a plaque for Pilate. Modern archeology has now found over half of all biblical artifacts. The number is around 50 000 I believe.
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  40. like bone broth soup duh, it was a meal item not a dessert item.
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  41. someone never watched the video
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  42. Better not look how your veggies and other foods are made then child or you might starve lol.
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  43. ya it's heavily processed though so may as well stick to making soup with that stuff.
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  44. gelatin has no taste, you could easily add gelatin powder in with the tomato sauce to increase the nutritional value of pizza.
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  45. who cares it's another name for gelatin.
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  46. Because of Bill Cosby
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  47. ya vegans don't even eat honey, it's basically a new age cult if you think about it, nut job shit.
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  48. guinea pigs are really rare like humans in that they are one of the few mammals that can't make their own vitamin C in their liver. So it's extremely important to give them foods like kiwi and others with vitamin C too.
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  49.  @downshift4503  No Tacitus was the best source, he was known as the historian of Rome because of how exemplary his recording was. Scholars think he had access to Official Roman records. So he likely read Pilates official records of Jesus which we no longer have. Funny because people said Pilate never existed, then we found evidence he did around a decade ago. Same thing with Caiaphas the high priest who brought the charges against Jesus, also found evidence for him. It basically doesn't get any better than Tacitus as an outside hostile source, the Historian of Rome.
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  50.  @downshift4503  He doesn't need to. His other work establishes he likely did. That is why Tacitus is so highly regarded and known as the HISTORIAN OF ROME. Of course it's evidence he is making documentation from primary source evidence. It is relevant Pilate and Caiaphas existed because prior the bible was the only source for them. It once again establishes the accuracy and historicity and reliability of the biblical text. Why can we say that? Because if we found out they never existed you would be saying the opposite about the reliability of the historical accuracy of the text. So it's quite relevant and a huge win, that was repeated twice. Same thing with the eclipse noted in the text during the crucifixion which NASA has proven to be true. Not only that it was practically noted to the minute in the text. Funny how the accuracy and continuity is exemplary yet instead of going along with the likely scenario it's always people wanting to claim the flat out opposite as history.
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