Comments by "WaterspoutsOfTheDeep" (@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep) on "SO BE IT!"
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Some very fascinating passages are in the old testament that show Jesus/trinity. I almost never hear brought up.
Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, a singular God as a fellowship of persons revealing the triune nature of God. Only God is speaking because only God has creation power.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity present as individuals here too. Isaiah 48:12-16 Absolutely mind blowing passage for what it shows.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
And lets not forget God came for Jew AND Gentile!
Isaiah 42:6King James Version (KJV)
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
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@Rajul_Jamil Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
It's called basic reading comprehension. Just like understanding when God said Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, the triune nature of God. Only God has creation power thus trinity. Here since you'll always be too lazy to read the passage. Now you have no excuse. Lets count to three, the first and the last Jesus speaking(person 1), "AND" now the Lord God(Father person 2), "AND" his Spirit(Holy Spirit person 3). Lets count together 1+1=2 2+1=3 That is three persons of God, the truine God prophet Isaiah "HeBrEw" "TANAK" bible telling YOU God is a trinity and Jesus was bodily appearing on earth before his incarnate transformation. You have no excuse.
Isaiah 48:12-16
12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.
14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The Lord hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.
16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
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I find it fascinating how the purposed Messiah shows up to become the bodily fulfillment of the ceremonial law right when Israel could no long fulfill it on her own. Almost like God planned it.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Like Abraham and Isaac. Abraham represents the Father, Issac represents the Son, Issac carried the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill, Jesus carried the cross the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill of Calvary. As Abraham was about to kill Issac God said no I will provide the sacrifice and gave a ram. Jesus is called the lamb of God and was the Fathers sacrifice for all of our sin because the bible says the work of the cross was the Fathers idea, remember Jesus praying not my will but yours be done. The son obeyed the will of the father.
There is the story of Israel in the desert becoming diseased and God telling them to put a serpent on a wooden pole and to look at it and be healed. The wooden pole is the cross and the serpent represent sin destroyed on the cross.
The story of Ruth of Jew and Gentile coming together. Ruth was a Gentile who became part of the genetic linage of Jesus on his mothers side, the side promised to bring him into the world. Just like Jesus brought Jew and Gentile together with his work.
The story of Joseph representing Jesus being betrayed by his brothers representing the disciples who all denied Jesus on the cross and put him in a hole for 3 days like Jesus was dead for 3 days and then came out/resurrected.
There is the story of the prophet Hosea. One of the best representations of Jesus. Hosea means savior. God tells Hosea to marry Gomer a prostitute. They have a child named Jezrial which means planted by God. Gomer then sleeps around and has two children by other men Lo Ruhamah which means no mercy and Lo Ammi which means not my people. Gomer leaves Hosea and the children stay with him and Hosea calls them Ruhamah meaning he will have mercy, and Ammi my people. He was upset and told the children to tell Gomer to come home. God says to Hosea no she won't respond to that. The bible says sleeping around and people who become drunks takes away their affection. But God says I'm going to make her instead repulsive to her lovers, and suddenly no one wants to be with her. She now has no money and she then is put on a slave block. Hosea goes to the slave block and buys her back. He says to Gomer you are not going to call me master instead I'm to be your husband. The perfect picture of redemption of Jesus buying us back from our sins saying I don't want to be your master I want to be your lover. It is one of the most beautiful pictures given in the bible.
The bible outlines both prayer and the person of Jesus in the description of the tabernacle as Jesus is the bodily fulfillment of the ceremonial law The gate(enter into his presence with worship and praise), Jesus is the gate, the 4 colors on the gate represents the 4 positions Jesus holds, as outlined in the four gospels which also is represented in the four faces on the cherub/living creature(which purpose is to protect God's glory) and the nature of each face on the creature. Scarlet=Luke=Savior=face of man, Purple=Mathew=King=face of lion(authority), White=Mark=Perfect Man=face of ox(servant/sacrifice), Blue=John=Son of God=face of eagle(divinity). The the outercourt is where we cleanse ourselves to come into his presence the alter of sacrifice we cleanse ourselves with his blood he is the lamb, the laver he is the purifying word that washes us, represented also when blood and water poured out from his side when he was pierced by the spear. The outercourt represents one of 3 realms of prayer as outlined by Jesus. Knock(holy of holies), seek(holy place), ask(outercourt). Outercourt is the asking because that is where you make your requests known to the Lord. The Holy place, table of shobread Jesus is the bread, the life. The lamp stand, Jesus is the light, the way. The incense, Jesus is our High Priest in constant intersession for us our prayers go through him, incense represents prayer in the bible. Then the Holy of Holies the ark of the covenant, he is our covenant, the mercy seat stained with his blood. When the the priest once a year dipped his robe in blood when he went into the Holy of Holies so a stream of blood was behind him whereever he walked, he went to each piece of furniture which then made a line on the ground of blood and it made the shape of the cross because of the positioning of all the furniture in the cross shape if you looked from above and then you'd see then this large blood outline of the cross. Jesus of course died on the cross for our sins and shed his blood, so a blood cross is a perfect representation. Every pole holding up the wall of the tabernacle had silver and brass on it speaking of redemption and suffering, the pole of wood speaks of his physical flesh his body it is acacia wood meaning eternal flesh the rope connected to the pole is made out of goats hair that had 11 strands of it in the rope, 11 is the number of destruction and goats hair speaks of sin, he destroyed our sin. The nail in the ground connected to the rope is brass, God said it should only be half way in the ground and half way out. Jesus is called the nail in Isaiah 22:23, and half in half out means he died and rose again.
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@falsemessiah751 Christianity is just being a follower of Jesus aka the "Christ" meaning Messiah. It's never changed once throughout history, it's always been as basic as it was from the start, a relationship with Jesus made possible by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost and after, who promises to reveal and make real Jesus to you.
What you are referencing is Christians , Christian history, and Christian culture. Jesus is the Christianity, he is the source of everything to the Christian. What a Christian is, is exactly the same as what they were 2000 years ago, a follower of Jesus. That is all it is. The thief beside Jesus on the cross was a Christian. You are trying to make more out of something that is extremely basic.
The only other fundamental aspect there is outside of that is the confession of Jesus as your Lord and savior at the start which is once, water baptism which is once, and communion. It is stated in the text and is the same now as it was then.
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@falsemessiah751 You are highly confused he taught the law was given for righteousness and it's impossible for man to follow perfectly. But he could being God which is why he upholds the law and righteousness is now through him of him. Christians are now under Christs law, which is to love they neighbor and God.
Jesus taught the triune nature of God.
Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
"Let US make man in OUR IMAGE." Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, a singular God as a fellowship of persons revealing the triune nature of God. Only God is speaking for only God has creation power.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity present as individuals here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Jesus predates his incarnate transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born
Jesus told the disciples to baptize to the triune nature of God. Jesus clearly acknowledging himself as God. The trinity was part of the the Church from the start. Matthew 28:19
John 8:58 Jesus saying he pre-existed his incarnate transformation and was God, the same God that appeared to Moses at the burning bush.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jesus claimed to be the Messiah AND God infront of the Sanhedrin and they sentenced him to death for it.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Confirmation of Jesus being God Old and New Testament, It is the same person speaking, Jesus.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Establishes Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega, is also the Lord, God Almighty.
Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Paul calls Jesus the Lord of glory(the same one who was crucified) meaning God as David explains.
1 Corinthians 2:8
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:8-10
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
Paul makes it clear Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
When we say the Son of God all we are saying is God in the flesh.
Hebrews 1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the express image of God.
Hebrews 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Romans 8, Ephesians 1 the eternal covenant, last mentioned, first made. Where the trinity made a covenant with themselves before the creation of the universe for the redemption of man. That is why the text states "by myself" it was not made with man but the fellowship of the trinity with themselves so it could not be broken the redemption of man could not be stopped. A covenant is between more than one person. And the result of the eternal covenant? The power of the blood raised Jesus from the dead, thus can do the same for you! Hebrews 13:20 Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
Lets not forget why Jesus focused his sermons not on himself. John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
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@ikman3410 You are confused, look at the ministry of Jesus and what he preached. He specifically stated why he did not preach of himself. John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Jesus made it clear he was God as does the text we can examine it.
Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, a singular God as a fellowship of persons revealing the triune nature of God.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity present as individuals here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Jesus predates his incarnate transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born
Jesus told the disciples to baptize to the triune nature of God. Jesus clearly acknowledging himself as God. The trinity was part of the the Church from the start. Matthew 28:19
John 8:58 Jesus saying he pre-existed his incarnate transformation and was God, the same God that appeared to Moses at the burning bush.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jesus claimed to be the Messiah AND God infront of the Sanhedrin and they sentenced him to death for it.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Confirmation of Jesus being God Old and New Testament, It is the same person speaking, Jesus.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Establishes Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega, is also the Lord, God Almighty.
Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Paul calls Jesus the Lord of glory(the same one who was crucified) meaning God as David explains.
1 Corinthians 2:8
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:8-10
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
Paul makes it clear Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
When we say the Son of God all we are saying is God in the flesh.
Hebrews 1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the express image of God.
Hebrews 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Romans 8, Ephesians 1 the eternal covenant, last mentioned, first made. Where the trinity made a covenant with themselves before the creation of the universe for the redemption of man. That is why the text states "by myself" it was not made with man but the fellowship of the trinity with themselves so it could not be broken the redemption of man could not be stopped. A covenant is between more than one person. And the result of the eternal covenant? The power of the blood raised Jesus from the dead, thus can do the same for you! Hebrews 13:20 Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
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@Rajul_Jamil You seem highly confused. Jesus is the bodily fulfillment of the ceremonial law. It was all presented in the old testament.
Like Abraham and Isaac. Abraham represents the Father, Issac represents the Son, Issac carried the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill, Jesus carried the cross the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill of Calvary. As Abraham was about to kill Issac God said no I will provide the sacrifice and gave a ram. Jesus is called the lamb of God and was the Fathers sacrifice for all of our sin because the bible says the work of the cross was the Fathers idea, remember Jesus praying not my will but yours be done. The son obeyed the will of the father.
There is the story of Israel in the desert becoming diseased and God telling them to put a serpent on a wooden pole and to look at it and be healed. The wooden pole is the cross and the serpent represent sin destroyed on the cross.
The story of Ruth of Jew and Gentile coming together. Ruth was a Gentile who became part of the genetic linage of Jesus on his mothers side, the side promised to bring him into the world. Just like Jesus brought Jew and Gentile together with his work.
The story of Joseph representing Jesus being betrayed by his brothers representing the disciples who all denied Jesus on the cross and put him in a hole for 3 days like Jesus was dead for 3 days and then came out/resurrected.
There is the story of the prophet Hosea. One of the best representations of Jesus. Hosea means savior. God tells Hosea to marry Gomer a prostitute. They have a child named Jezrial which means planted by God. Gomer then sleeps around and has two children by other men Lo Ruhamah which means no mercy and Lo Ammi which means not my people. Gomer leaves Hosea and the children stay with him and Hosea calls them Ruhamah meaning he will have mercy, and Ammi my people. He was upset and told the children to tell Gomer to come home. God says to Hosea no she won't respond to that. The bible says sleeping around and people who become drunks takes away their affection. But God says I'm going to make her instead repulsive to her lovers, and suddenly no one wants to be with her. She now has no money and she then is put on a slave block. Hosea goes to the slave block and buys her back. He says to Gomer you are not going to call me master instead I'm to be your husband. The perfect picture of redemption of Jesus buying us back from our sins saying I don't want to be your master I want to be your lover. It is one of the most beautiful pictures given in the bible.
The bible outlines both prayer and the person of Jesus in the description of the tabernacle as Jesus is the bodily fulfillment of the ceremonial law The gate(enter into his presence with worship and praise), Jesus is the gate, the 4 colors on the gate represents the 4 positions Jesus holds, as outlined in the four gospels which also is represented in the four faces on the cherub/living creature(which purpose is to protect God's glory) and the nature of each face on the creature. Scarlet=Luke=Savior=face of man, Purple=Mathew=King=face of lion(authority), White=Mark=Perfect Man=face of ox(servant/sacrifice), Blue=John=Son of God=face of eagle(divinity). The the outercourt is where we cleanse ourselves to come into his presence the alter of sacrifice we cleanse ourselves with his blood he is the lamb, the laver he is the purifying word that washes us, represented also when blood and water poured out from his side when he was pierced by the spear. The outercourt represents one of 3 realms of prayer as outlined by Jesus. Knock(holy of holies), seek(holy place), ask(outercourt). Outercourt is the asking because that is where you make your requests known to the Lord. The Holy place, table of shobread Jesus is the bread, the life. The lamp stand, Jesus is the light, the way. The incense, Jesus is our High Priest in constant intersession for us our prayers go through him, incense represents prayer in the bible. Then the Holy of Holies the ark of the covenant, he is our covenant, the mercy seat stained with his blood. When the the priest once a year dipped his robe in blood when he went into the Holy of Holies so a stream of blood was behind him whereever he walked, he went to each piece of furniture which then made a line on the ground of blood and it made the shape of the cross because of the positioning of all the furniture in the cross shape if you looked from above and then you'd see then this large blood outline of the cross. Jesus of course died on the cross for our sins and shed his blood, so a blood cross is a perfect representation. Every pole holding up the wall of the tabernacle had silver and brass on it speaking of redemption and suffering, the pole of wood speaks of his physical flesh his body it is acacia wood meaning eternal flesh the rope connected to the pole is made out of goats hair that had 11 strands of it in the rope, 11 is the number of destruction and goats hair speaks of sin, he destroyed our sin. The nail in the ground connected to the rope is brass, God said it should only be half way in the ground and half way out. Jesus is called the nail in Isaiah 22:23, and half in half out means he died and rose again.
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@Rajul_Jamil Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, the triune nature of God.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Jesus saying he predates his incarnite transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born
Jesus told the disciples to baptize to the triune nature of God. Jesus clearly acknowledging himself as God. The trinity was part of the the Church from the start. Matthew 28:19
John 8:58 Jesus saying he pre-existed his incarnate transformation and was God, the same God that appeared to Moses at the burning bush.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Confirmation of Jesus being God Old and New Testament, It is the same person speaking, Jesus.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Establishes Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega, is also the Lord, God Almighty.
Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Paul calls Jesus the Lord of glory(the same one who was crucified) meaning God as David explains.
1 Corinthians 2:8
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:8-10
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
Paul makes it clear Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
When we say the Son of God all we are saying is God in the flesh.
Hebrews 1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the express image of God.
Hebrews 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Romans 8, Ephesians 1 the eternal covenant, last mentioned, first made. Where the trinity made a covenant with themselves before the creation of the universe for the redemption of man. That is why the text states "by myself" it was not made with man but God so it could not be broken the redemption of man could not be stopped. A covenant is between more than one person.
Positions of God are creator, preserver, forgiver of sins, raise the dead, transform bodies, judge, and give life eternal. Jesus is all of these things
For God to be God he must be all powerful, all present, all knowing, eternal, unchanging. Jesus is all those things.
Ephesians 1:20-23 Jesus all power.
Matthew 18:20, 28:20, John 14:20, Ephesians 1:22-23, John 8:58 Jesus is all present
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@HistoryandReviews They were all martyrs we have historical accounts beyond the bible. Shocker right...
They did see Jesus as God.
Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
"Let US make man in OUR IMAGE." Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, a singular God as a fellowship of persons revealing the triune nature of God. Only God is speaking for only God has creation power.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity present as individuals here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Jesus predates his incarnate transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born
Jesus told the disciples to baptize to the triune nature of God. Jesus clearly acknowledging himself as God. The trinity was part of the the Church from the start. Matthew 28:19
John 8:58 Jesus saying he pre-existed his incarnate transformation and was God, the same God that appeared to Moses at the burning bush.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
Jesus claimed to be the Messiah AND God infront of the Sanhedrin and they sentenced him to death for it.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Confirmation of Jesus being God Old and New Testament, It is the same person speaking, Jesus.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Establishes Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega, is also the Lord, God Almighty.
Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Paul calls Jesus the Lord of glory(the same one who was crucified) meaning God as David explains.
1 Corinthians 2:8
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:8-10
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
Paul makes it clear Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
When we say the Son of God all we are saying is God in the flesh.
Hebrews 1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the express image of God.
Hebrews 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Romans 8, Ephesians 1 the eternal covenant, last mentioned, first made. Where the trinity made a covenant with themselves before the creation of the universe for the redemption of man. That is why the text states "by myself" it was not made with man but the fellowship of the trinity with themselves so it could not be broken the redemption of man could not be stopped. A covenant is between more than one person. And the result of the eternal covenant? The power of the blood raised Jesus from the dead, thus can do the same for you! Hebrews 13:20 Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
Lets not forget why Jesus focused his sermons not on himself. John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
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robertstephenson6806 You sure about that?
Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, the triune nature of God.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Jesus saying he predates his incarnite transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born
Jesus told the disciples to baptize to the triune nature of God. Jesus clearly acknowledging himself as God. The trinity was part of the the Church from the start. Matthew 28:19
John 8:58 Jesus saying he pre-existed his incarnate transformation and was God, the same God that appeared to Moses at the burning bush.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Confirmation of Jesus being God Old and New Testament, It is the same person speaking, Jesus.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Establishes Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega, is also the Lord, God Almighty.
Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Paul calls Jesus the Lord of glory(the same one who was crucified) meaning God as David explains.
1 Corinthians 2:8
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:8-10
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
Paul makes it clear Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
When we say the Son of God all we are saying is God in the flesh.
Hebrews 1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the express image of God.
Hebrews 1:3
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Romans 8, Ephesians 1 the eternal covenant, last mentioned, first made. Where the trinity made a covenant with themselves before the creation of the universe for the redemption of man. That is why the text states "by myself" it was not made with man but God so it could not be broken the redemption of man could not be stopped. A covenant is between more than one person.
Positions of God are creator, preserver, forgiver of sins, raise the dead, transform bodies, judge, and give life eternal. Jesus is all of these things
For God to be God he must be all powerful, all present, all knowing, eternal, unchanging. Jesus is all those things.
Ephesians 1:20-23 Jesus all power.
Matthew 18:20, 28:20, John 14:20, Ephesians 1:22-23, John 8:58 Jesus is all present
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@joshuasauber7966 You sure about that?
Christianity did not introduce the trinity nor the need for God to come to save humanity from their sins. It was all in the old testament.
Let US make man in OUR IMAGE. Plural persons, singular image. Multiple as one, the triune nature of God.
Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16
Blood of Jesus in a fountain in heaven.
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Zechariah 13:1 is clearly talking about a sacrifice provided by God. Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Hebrews 9:12 (KJV)
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Like Abraham and Isaac. Abraham represents the Father, Issac represents the Son, Issac carried the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill, Jesus carried the cross the wood to be sacrificed on up the hill of Calvary. As Abraham was about to kill Issac God said no I will provide the sacrifice and gave a ram. Jesus is called the lamb of God and was the Fathers sacrifice for all of our sin because the bible says the work of the cross was the Fathers idea, remember Jesus praying not my will but yours be done. The son obeyed the will of the father.
There is the story of Israel in the desert becoming diseased and God telling them to put a serpent on a wooden pole and to look at it and be healed. The wooden pole is the cross and the serpent represent sin destroyed on the cross.
The story of Ruth of Jew and Gentile coming together. Ruth was a Gentile who became part of the genetic linage of Jesus on his mothers side, the side promised to bring him into the world. Just like Jesus brought Jew and Gentile together with his work.
The story of Joseph representing Jesus being betrayed by his brothers representing the disciples who all denied Jesus on the cross and put him in a hole for 3 days like Jesus was dead for 3 days and then came out/resurrected.
There is the story of the prophet Hosea. One of the best representations of Jesus. Hosea means savior. God tells Hosea to marry Gomer a prostitute. They have a child named Jezrial which means planted by God. Gomer then sleeps around and has two children by other men Lo Ruhamah which means no mercy and Lo Ammi which means not my people. Gomer leaves Hosea and the children stay with him and Hosea calls them Ruhamah meaning he will have mercy, and Ammi my people. He was upset and told the children to tell Gomer to come home. God says to Hosea no she won't respond to that. The bible says sleeping around and people who become drunks takes away their affection. But God says I'm going to make her instead repulsive to her lovers, and suddenly no one wants to be with her. She now has no money and she then is put on a slave block. Hosea goes to the slave block and buys her back. He says to Gomer you are not going to call me master instead I'm to be your husband. The perfect picture of redemption of Jesus buying us back from our sins saying I don't want to be your master I want to be your lover. It is one of the most beautiful pictures given in the bible.
The bible outlines both prayer and the person of Jesus in the description of the tabernacle as Jesus is the bodily fulfillment of the ceremonial law The gate(enter into his presence with worship and praise), Jesus is the gate, the 4 colors on the gate represents the 4 positions Jesus holds, as outlined in the four gospels which also is represented in the four faces on the cherub/living creature(which purpose is to protect God's glory) and the nature of each face on the creature. Scarlet=Luke=Savior=face of man, Purple=Mathew=King=face of lion(authority), White=Mark=Perfect Man=face of ox(servant/sacrifice), Blue=John=Son of God=face of eagle(divinity). The the outercourt is where we cleanse ourselves to come into his presence the alter of sacrifice we cleanse ourselves with his blood he is the lamb, the laver he is the purifying word that washes us, represented also when blood and water poured out from his side when he was pierced by the spear. The outercourt represents one of 3 realms of prayer as outlined by Jesus. Knock(holy of holies), seek(holy place), ask(outercourt). Outercourt is the asking because that is where you make your requests known to the Lord. The Holy place, table of shobread Jesus is the bread, the life. The lamp stand, Jesus is the light, the way. The incense, Jesus is our High Priest in constant intersession for us our prayers go through him, incense represents prayer in the bible. Then the Holy of Holies the ark of the covenant, he is our covenant, the mercy seat stained with his blood. When the the priest once a year dipped his robe in blood when he went into the Holy of Holies so a stream of blood was behind him whereever he walked, he went to each piece of furniture which then made a line on the ground of blood and it made the shape of the cross because of the positioning of all the furniture in the cross shape if you looked from above and then you'd see then this large blood outline of the cross. Jesus of course died on the cross for our sins and shed his blood, so a blood cross is a perfect representation. Every pole holding up the wall of the tabernacle had silver and brass on it speaking of redemption and suffering, the pole of wood speaks of his physical flesh his body it is acacia wood meaning eternal flesh the rope connected to the pole is made out of goats hair that had 11 strands of it in the rope, 11 is the number of destruction and goats hair speaks of sin, he destroyed our sin. The nail in the ground connected to the rope is brass, God said it should only be half way in the ground and half way out. Jesus is called the nail in Isaiah 22:23, and half in half out means he died and rose again.
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