Comments by "WaterspoutsOfTheDeep" (@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep) on "Rebel HQ" channel.

  1. That would be because Jesus is the Christ. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
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  2. That's why Christianity condemns it. Atheism is the worst a mythology of magic (rationality from irrationality).
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  3. lmao no, learn basic history instead of from quacks like the one who made the Zeitgeist movie.
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  4. Is that supposed to be a philosophical argument? You'll never win.
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  5. Tells me you haven't actually read it yourself if you actually think it's full of contradictions or about controlling people. What an absolutely ignorant take. While on the flip side I bet you believe in the mythology of magic (rationality from irrationality) called atheism/naturalism. The irony is tangible.
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  6.  @fl00d69  What utter nonsense. God literally became God incarnate, man, Jesus and died to free us and reunite us with him.
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  7.  @fl00d69  I spelled it out and spoon fed your absurd worldview for you. Rationality from irrationality is a definition of magic and exactly the mythology you believe in. These are pretty simple concepts the fact you cant grasp it says it all.
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  8.  @fl00d69  Christianity is evidenced based. Faith is the product of truth, and truth is ultimately a person Jesus Christ who said I am the truth. Faith not from truth is blind faith, an aberration of the fundamental concept of faith which unfortunately has been popularized as the standard definition which is absurd and clearly not the type of faith presented in the bible and used to do science. Paul wrote test everything and hold fast to that which is true (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Being a Christian isn't about blind faith. Hebrews 11:1 Paul wrote the Greek "hupostasis." It means an internal unseen tangible substance of assurance, of the person of Jesus he gives as an "elegchos" which essentially means a clinical evidence like given in a court of law. It is the most important evidence one can have to give ones life to Jesus. Ultimately nothing else is or can be sufficient. Jesus, God could appear infront of you right now and do miracles and that wouldn't be enough for you or anyone to give their lives truly to him. It wasn't enough for the disciples. All the disciples denied Jesus on the cross. All the miracles and evidence Jesus was God like walking on water raising the dead, hearing God from heaven speak and say this is my Son was not enough. So why would it be enough for you? It wouldn't. Christianity should have died on the cross with Jesus. But Pentecost happened. God the Holy Spirit came and his promise is to reveal Jesus and make him real to you. That is when all the disciples would rather give their lives for Jesus than deny him, hundreds of thousands would die as martyrs in the Colosseum than deny Jesus who was then made real to them more real than walking on water or raising the dead infront of them in person. Just a reminder the apologetic case of the resurrection is based on the historical evidence and it uses the same method of reasoning mainly inference to the best explanation that Darwin uses in the Origin of Species. The New Testament shows with the physician Luke telling that they knew and understood and had the same objections we do today that a miracle goes against the laws of nature and addressed it with the story of Zechariah that a God that created it all with those laws of nature can intervene into them. To assume miracles can't happen is to wrongly assume this universe is a closed system, science does not tell us that. You are hindered by a philosophical presupposition that thinks, that is the way it must have happened. That is a big issue for a scientist, am I going to stick with what the science is saying or with my philosophical presupposition? Richard Lewontin a geneticist was very honest in stating; "The methods of science do not compel us to accept a materialistic explanation. What does? Our apriori conviction." Atheists aren't following where the evidence leads, because they are self limiting the extent of their own rationality. It's irrational in the strictest sense. Atheism and science do not mix. If the mental is purely physical, then we have no reason to have any confidence in anything our brain produces. -Thomas Nagel Atheist Having no belief in God undermines the very rational mind you require to do science and argue with. So there is nothing in genuine science to stop the belief in God, there is everything in genuine science to support the belief in God and the belief in God is what encourages the very enterprise of science which is why it birthed modern science. Men became scientific because they expected law in nature, and they expected law in nature because they believed in a law giver. There is only one ultimate type of truth that you or anyone can accept to not just believe a God exists but accept and give your life to him and know him, and that's from him giving that evidence personally as Jesus promises and does for all those that seek him.
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  9.  @kalxite  No evidence of God? You can't be that ignorant lol...
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  10.  @kalxite  Your ignorance isn't mine. Imagine thinking a universe can come from nothing uncaused, or rationality can come from irrationality. You'd rather believe in magic than a mind behind it. That's called being willingly ignorant ignoring how the paradigms of reality demand a God behind the universe.
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  11. Someones is making the age old mistake of conflating Christianity with Christian history. And largely inventing the latter no less like usual too.
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  12. A baby is not your body.
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  13.  @greggiles7309  You need to figure out the conversation you are having first. You vague and just eluded to taking contrary positions. Use your words and give clarity to what you are actually trying to say.
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  14.  @zepher664  You might want to actually read the bible instead of just making up whatever sounds good in your head continually. The punishment of sin is death which is talking about the death of what we are the spirit man, by separation from God who is life. We were created to exist in God without him we are like fish out of water like the living dead. That is what happened after Adam and Eve sinned mankind is already in that punishment that death for sin, that punishment carries on when the body dies eternal separation from God and the only place that can happen is hell which wasn't even made for man. The substitution Jesus did on the cross for your sin means you are united once again with God and can know him that's his promise to all. Christianity is evidenced based not blind faith. This is why all the disciples denied Jesus on the cross yet after Jesus is made so real to them they would rather die horrible deaths as martyrs and they did than deny him and so did hundreds of thousands in the Colosseum.
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  15. The age old ignorant take conflating narrative with instruction.
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  16. Christianity isn't designed, Christianity is Jesus.
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  17. hahaha as if, the historicity of Jesus is long established and exemplary. We literally have so many early manuscripts of the Gospels they would be as high as 2.5 burg kalifas the highest building in the world. The early church creeds are dated 0-2 years after Jesus and establish deity death and resurrection from the start, and high Christology. The story of Jesus did not evolve over time the highest form was the first presented. I bet you believe in the mythology of magic called Atheism, your God of nothing you came from and will return to lol. Takes a special kind of person to believe in such absolute nonsense to avoid God.
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  18. I mean naturalism is inherently religious it's atheism, it's a mythology of magic that rationality came from irrationality. There is no such deus ex machina mechanism that exist, naturalism is predicated on a mechanism that does not exist and can't. It's a mythology of magic. It's religious.
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  19. Naturalism is religious it's predicated on a mechanism that does not exist a deus ex machina mechanism that produces rationality from irrationality. That's a definition of magic. Naturalism/Atheism/secularism is a mythology of magic, that's religious. It's not an evidence/science/logic based worldview.
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  20. Oh please, the masks were useless and actually induced more covid infections as the WHO even warned prior to covid not to use them unless sick. They don't prevent spread of aerosolized virus which covid is. It's stupid and anti-science madness. Everyone should be upset and call out the absurdity of it.
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  21. Really? Atheism is the most illogical worldview there is, it's a mythology of magic(rationality from irrationality). It's the most extreme extent anyone can go to, to avoid God as the answer. Naturalism cannot account for the start of the universe effect requires a cause, the design of the universe which is clearly fine tuned which requires a mind, origin of life which is based on the product of a mind information stored in DNA, or the diversity of life which also requires a mind information doesn't progress to a higher state it degrades. God is the only logical answer. Mind>magic
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  22. No clue what you are talking about all of their net worth went down when Trump got into politics.
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  23.  @kizzmiaz  The ignorance is conflating differences in multiple accounts of like events as contradictions. Example the differences in the synoptic gospels matthew mark luke, can be explained as a concept we see with how Plutarch writes. Plutarch who writes biographies of people we can see where he says one thing in the person biography, then if said person is referenced on someone elses biography Plutarch telescopes the facts as in condenses them down in a way. That is the kind of evidence that some scholars call discrepancies we see in the synoptic gospels which is absurd. How authors wrote in that day was focusing on the gist of what was being said to get across. Pretending Pauls writings are contrary to Jesus is just utter nonsense. Case in point the early church creeds dated 0-2 years after Jesus before Paul converted establish deity death and resurrection and most importantly counter to your point high Christology from the start. The highest form of Christology was present from the start.
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  24.  @kizzmiaz  The ignorance lies in conflating differences in multiple accounts of like events as contradictions. Example the synoptic Gospels in relation to how Plutarch writes which shows authors of the day were focused on getting across the gist of events. Furthermore as for Paul that's ridiculous we can look at the early church creeds dated 0-2 years after Jesus before Pauls conversion and see high Christology from the start, the highest form from the get go. There was no progression of narrative like you are eluding to or with Johns late writing. Highest form of Christology right after.
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  25. Atheism is just stupid.
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  26. Atheism is even more so. It's a mythology of magic, rationality from irrationality as absurd as one can get to avoid the answer of God.
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  27. Atheism being the worst of them all a true mythology of magic.
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  28. Which God? Well how about testing. Truth is exclusive not all inclusive, everyone can't be right. How about we don't keep religion to ourselves how about we test them all and hold to the one that comes out on top. Hint hint there is only one that got the start of the universe correct, it's the origin of the big bang theory the biblical God.
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  29. I agree Atheism is a fairy tale, a mythology of magic.
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  30.  @zepher664  It's a demonstrable fact. Naturalism is predicated on a mechanism that does not exist, rationality from irrationality to do away with the need for a mind behind everything a God. Except there is no such deus ex machina mechanism that produces rationality from irrationality, that's the definition of magic fyi. So naturalism/Atheism is quite literally a mythology of magic by definition. Mind boggling how you people don't grasp the implications of your very blind faith belief. Truly blind.
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  31. @664 Dunno why you chose to respond when you have nothing but deflection and a very poor attempt at that. Unless you know of this magical deus ex machina mechanism that can create rationality from irrationality. You clearly never considered the implications because it's reality breaking and invalidates your own personhood and all human achievement. You still don't even grasp how flawed your own position and worldview is even when spoon fed to you. You quite literally have blind faith in a mythology of magic lol and ignorantly think you are arguing from a logical and scientific high ground which is the most hilarious part of it all.
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  32. That masks don't prevent aerosolized virus infection? Follow the science bro.
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  33. It should be, it birthed modern science, uplifted the West which brought the human race into the modern age. No other is like it, it is superior in all ways to all other forms of thought. Truth is exclusive not all inclusive. Not all worldviews are right and by default some have to be better than others. Christianity stands on top, naturalism/secularism is nonsense it's a mythology of magic (rationality from irrationaly) to do away with the need for God. Reminder it wasn't naturalism that birthed modern science it was intelligent design, naturalism is an inferior model predicated on a deus ex machina mechanism that does not exist.
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  34.  @maddogwillie1019  lol Christianity is freedom. What an ignorant take. Where do you think the phrase "the truth will set you free comes from"?
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  35.  @bosskbounty  The historicity of the biblical text is exemplary, it's comical you want to make up it's made up there is no such evidence. You do realize the bible is a compilation of 66 books from many authors over thousands of years that all shares continuity and you really want to stick with your absurd argument it's made up? lol try and find any other book in history like that.
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  36.  @bosskbounty  You don't have the basic reading comprehension to understand literary device or cross reference to establish context? Satan is referenced as a serpent, a seraph is like a serpent. Do you not know the definitions of the word day? Day is used as a set period of time not a 24 hour or daylight period. In other words day as in ages, if you had basic reading comprehension you'd see the seventh day has no night as in we are still in the seventh day. Anything else you need spoon fed to you?
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  37.  @shyguyry2033  Christianity is Jesus. That's the simplest analogy I can give. If Jesus says one thing and you do another you can't attribute it to Christianity. Case in point Jesus made it clear twice his kingdom is not of this world don't take up arms for him. It's a very simple point I'm making you are conflating people... with Christianity.
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  38.  @greggiles7309  you are making the ignorant age old mistake of conflating narrative with instruction.
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  39.  @zepher664  Learn the difference between the law, civil, moral ceremonial. civil was for ancient Israel, ceremonial Jesus became the bodily fulfillment of, moral was condensed till Jesus came and made it two love your neighbor and God. You are making the age old mistake of conflating narrative with instruction.
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  40.  @zepher664  In other words you just believe whatever sounds good in your head. I gave you the condensed version of the biblical text explicitly says. It's not what I think it's stated as such. Neither do you clearly understand even the story of Elijah and the bears God sent to maul the "children" the word for them is unmarried men that aren't a head of their household. So they likely weren't children. Secondly it wasn't an insult on Elijah if you study the cultural context of the insult it was comparing Elijah to the heathen prophets of I believe Ba al they were directly insulting God and his plan he placed on Elijah and paid the price.
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  41.  @zepher664  Once again you are making up whatever sounds good in your head. Jews believed the the two person Yahweh one on earth one in heaven as the Sodom story shows Yahweh on earth called upon Yahweh in heaven to rain down fire Gen 19:24. There is no Yahwehs wife. Nor fighting for position. You are just making up whatever sounds good in your head or repeating from some ignorant Atheist who isn't a ancient historian. The two power Yahweh doctrine was removed from Judaism around 100 years after Jesus because of it's implications for Christianity. Christianity is the biggest force for good in the world. It's the largest source of charity in the world. Christianity brought about universities and modern science which brought about the rise of the West which took the human race into the modern age. Notable scholar Jospeh Needham explained this. You owe the world and foundation you are even arguing from all from Christianity. Christianity obviously as you can see now has produced the most good and reduction in suffering for the human race one could even imagine. The argument for Christianity can't get much better.
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  42.  @jeffmcmahon3278  Morality requires God otherwise it's subjective. As is truth. Rationality does not come from irrationality, effects require a cause, a mind is required. God must exist. Atheism is a mythology of magic. Mind>magic
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  43. Yet atheism/naturalism is already forced on people in academia.
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  44. lmao let me guess you are an Atheist or a wiccan lol
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  45. I have a feeling you don't even believe in God but the mythology of magic called atheism. Imagine the absurdity of believing rationality comes from irrationality and uncaused effects.
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  46.  @LeoBaker-ir3vo  Prove it. That's patently false we can go back and see exactly the contrary it wasn't revised or designed. There are no contradictory ideas or histories. In fact the historicity of the biblical text is exemplary proven countless times more reliable than secular accounts. Furthermore the ideas in the biblical text are largely unique and superior to all other worldviews. It was Christianity that birthed modern science, universities, uplifted the West which brought humanity into the modern age. You owe pretty much your entire life to Christianity. The irony to be arguing so ignorantly from a position Christianity created for you.
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  47.  @diannahill5577  Basic reading comprehension is a skill worth investing in if you actually are ignorant enough to read the bible and conclude the devil is the good guy. Mind boggling the lack of basic comprehension and historical knowledge.
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  48.  @akio2589  There reality isn't. What you call historical events are a select few noted events with no other evidence you are choosing to pretend are historical and more trustworthy.
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  49.  @akio2589  That is a position you can't substantiate. Furthermore you don't even have a use of the word "good" without said morality coming from a fixed point said God in the first place to make such a call. You argument is futile.
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  50.  @akio2589  Helps if you understand what is being said in the first place. You are ignoring the context of what you are citing. I too am talking about archeology, geology, astronomy. Lack of physical evidence of a tower of babel is not evidence to the contrary, in fact we know humans came from the same region around Africa thus a tower of Babel is a feasible not unfeasible claim. Furthermore mitochondrial eve and y chromosome adam data shows this and also establishes the biblical narrative we came from two ancestors. The idea of the firmament is the same as the idea of the mustard seed being the smallest seed. It was a literary device God was using at the level of understanding of the reader to get across the point so they would understand it. This can be seen across the bible. The sun circumventing the earth is not a biblical view. Once again you aren't establishing the context of what you are reading which I assume is a passage talking about everything revolving around what's happening on earth or even more so relating angels sometimes called stars in whatever you are talking about. What global flood? Noahs flood story says the flood was on the world of man, not judgment on the earth. Once again you aren't looking at the context. We don't know the extent man had spread at that time thus the size of the flood needed. There are floods we can point to. And so on and so on. The historicity of the biblical text is exemplary and proven more accurate many times than secular accounts. To assume miracles can't happen is to wronging assume this universe a closed system, that's your blind faith. The biblical authors acknowledge miracles are unusual events which we can talk about.
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