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@thematrix7584 Al-Khwarizmi was Turkic, not Persian, his culture and language is Arabic, and he studied at the House of Wisdom (an Arab university) in Baghdad.. The Persians had no scholars or books before Islam.
All the fathers of science were Arabs, and all universities were built by Arabs
-Al-Zahrawi (Father of surgery)
-Jabir ibn Hayyan (father of chemistry)
-Ibn al-Haytham (father of modern optics) " inventor of the camera"
-Al-Kindi "fathers of cryptography ",,invented Cryptanalysis,,Statistical inference and Alcohol,,
-Ibn al-Nafis ,, "the father of circulatory physiology"
-al-Jazari "Fathers of Robotics"
-Thabit ibn Qurra ,, first reformer of the Ptolemaic system, he was a founder of statics
-Al-Masadi ,,invented "Genetic drift"
-Avempace is which influence in Renaissance Europe, including Galileo Galilei
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@majidbineshgar7156 The so-called "Persian civilization" was literally a hotb,ed of ignorance .. Even before Islam, he was a doctor of Khosrau Al-Harith ibn Kalada..he was Arab..i wonder, why he wasn't Persian!
The Persians are literally nomads. Before the conquest of Babylon the "Semitic" were pastoral nomads un,civilized .. They des,troyed one of the greatest civilizations in history, the Semitic Babylon
A vast empire does not mean a civilization .. The Arabs and the Greeks were kingdoms, but they had knowledge, alphabet and books
Literally, the Persians are like the Mongols, bar,baric empires without knowledge..
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Regarding the grammar of the Arabic language, hey, you wake up! are you kidding me !
The Persians borrow from the Arabs literally everything. Literature, the alphabet, philosophy, poetry, and culture all came from the Arabs and went to the Persians.
And you are boasting that one Persian copied his Arabic teacher's book of the Arabic language and its grammar! And he himself Sibawayh said this that he collected the knowledge of Al-Farahidi and did not write it!
Sibawayh did not write the grammar of the Arabic language, which was written by Al-Farahidi. Sibawayh collected Al-Farahidi’s knowledge in one book, and you will find that he mentioned this in his book! Stop quoting from Persian nationalists nonsense
If, as you claim, Sibawayh wrote Arabic grammar, then who wrote the Qur’an? How did the Qur’an exist before grammar?
And why the Persians language is weak and the Arabs rhetorical and strong language! Why does he not care about the grammar of his language and write for it instead of borrowing from the Arabs?
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@craftyunicorn4291 The golden age in Arabia, not Persia!
The universities were built by the Arabs, and in my Arab land, Andalusia, Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, even the Persians were studying in Arab universities built by the Arabs.
The Persians have nothing to do with the civilization of Islam / Arab.. Your civilization is the Majus
The Arabs are the cradle of Islam, not the Persians
The Ottomans brought the Arab civilization, the civilization of Muhammad, Ali and Omar, and not the civilization of Zoroaster and Khosrau.. The alphabet, religion, culture and language were Arabic.. Architecture and philosophy are all Arabic, not Persian / Majusi
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@craftyunicorn4291 The so-called "Persian civilization" was literally a hotb,ed of ignorance .. Even before Islam, he was a doctor of Khosrau Al-Harith ibn Kalada..he was Arab..i wonder, why he wasn't Persian!
The Persians are literally nomads. Before the conquest of Babylon the "Semitic" were pastoral nomads un,civilized .. They des,troyed one of the greatest civilizations in history, the Semitic Babylon
A vast empire does not mean a civilization .. The Arabs and the Greeks were kingdoms, but they had knowledge, alphabet and books
Literally, the Persians are like the Mongols, bar,baric empires without knowledge..
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@craftyunicorn4291 Stop deluding yourself and lying to yourself !
Islamic civilization is not your civilization .. literally the civilization of Islam defeated and kicked your ancestors who are of no importance to all Muslims ..
Architecture is Arabic/Islamic, not Persian
The font is Arabic, not Persian
Religion is Arabic, not Persian
The names are Arabic, not Persian
The culture is Arabic, not Persian
The symbols of Islam are the Arabs, not the Persians
The heroes of Islam are Khaled bin Al-Waleed, Omar, Ali..etc, not Zoroaster or any Persian
The Ottomans and all the Muslim dynasties adopted all of this (it is an Arab heritage) and none of it is Persian
Arab culture/religion spread, that’s a fact.
You see in ottoman history, culture and even Turkish, a fascination and a status for Arab warriors, culture etc.
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Read carefully👇
The Iranian researcher and thinker Nasir Porbera says in his first book: With 12 centuries of silence, which means the rule of the Achaemenids, Ashkenites and Sassanids, which lasted 12 centuries before Islam,where he describes
these three dynasties as alien to their geographical surroundings and the original inhabitants
We find Iran,where 15 peoples - including the Semites and the Elamites - lived a peaceful life and they had an ancient civilization,even if the Jews came, according to the Torah,
against these peoples by force، where he destroyed their civilization, enslaved them and removed them
from existence from their ancestors, and this is what Borberar concludes from the paintings and inscriptions of Persepolis, Porbera says 👇
None of these three dynasties that ruled by force, sword, and tyranny over the peoples living in find Iran remain. There is no significant cultural trace left of them compared to the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs, except that they mastered the use of the Persian spear to wipe out the peoples who preceded them in Iran and conquer the lands Others and drowning other peoples with seas of blood Borberar criticizes the Persian nationalist historians,affiliated with Western historians and archaeologists most of whom are Jews,for starting Iranian history with the Achaemenid dynasty, while saying that this dynasty and its founder Cyrus and Darius are agents of the Jews
According to what was stated in the Torah, and that they came later than the peoples who lived before them. The archaeologists and orientalists of the Jews exaggerated their status and reputation, contrary to their reality in history👇
Sumer was the oldest civilization in Mesopotamia that came from peoples of unknown origin, for sure, the jewels of the crown of the civilizations of the ancient world, namely the Akkadian, Babylonian, Assyrian and Dilmunian, were all Semitic civilizations
founded and excelled in them by the Semites, when the world was languishing in the unknowns of barbarism
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The Arabs are like the Greeks, not the Persians.. Arabs are for Islam.. like the Greeks are for Christianity.. Arabs are the cradle of Islam, not the Persians.. Islamic culture depends on Arab culture, not Persian.. Caliphs, alphabet, literature, religion, traditions, architecture..etc. All of them are from Arab culture, not Persian.
Arabia are the holy land of Islam, not Persia..The symbols and heroes of Islam are all Arabs, not Persians..Islamic culture and traditions are all Arabs, not Persians.
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Read carefully👇
The Iranian researcher and thinker Nasir Porbera says in his first book: With 12 centuries of silence, which means the rule of the Achaemenids, Ashkenites and Sassanids, which lasted 12 centuries before Islam,where he describes
these three dynasties as alien to their geographical surroundings and the original inhabitants
We find Iran,where 15 peoples - including the Semites and the Elamites - lived a peaceful life and they had an ancient civilization,even if the Jews came, according to the Torah,
against these peoples by force، where he destroyed their civilization, enslaved them and removed them
from existence from their ancestors, and this is what Borberar concludes from the paintings and inscriptions of Persepolis, Porbera says 👇
None of these three dynasties that ruled by force, sword, and tyranny over the peoples living in find Iran remain. There is no significant cultural trace left of them compared to the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs, except that they mastered the use of the Persian spear to wipe out the peoples who preceded them in Iran and conquer the lands Others and drowning other peoples with seas of blood Borberar criticizes the Persian nationalist historians,affiliated with Western historians and archaeologists most of whom are Jews,for starting Iranian history with the Achaemenid dynasty, while saying that this dynasty and its founder Cyrus and Darius are agents of the Jews
According to what was stated in the Torah, and that they came later than the peoples who lived before them. The archaeologists and orientalists of the Jews exaggerated their status and reputation, contrary to their reality in history👇
Sumer was the oldest civilization in Mesopotamia that came from peoples of unknown origin, for sure, the jewels of the crown of the civilizations of the ancient world, namely the Akkadian, Babylonian, Assyrian and Dilmunian, were all Semitic civilizations
founded and excelled in them by the Semites, when the world was languishing in the unknowns of barbarism
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What is your opinion 👇
Historians said about the Persians 👇
Count De Gobineau says: (The Persians did not invent anything new in the arts. Whether it was in the era of the Achaemenids, the Sassanids, or after the advent of Islam, the Persians did not have a style or art of their own, rather they borrowed from others)
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(The Persians were not people of civilization, they were people of war, and they were not spreaders of science, culture and arts like the Semites, but they were spreaders of ruin and destruction. as an official language of the country)
While they said about the Arabs👇
George Sarton: In his book, The Civilization of the Arabs, he says: The Arabs previously led the world in two long phases, the first remained for two thousand years before Greece, and the second lived for four centuries during the Middle Ages, and no one can prevent these peoples from leading the world again in the near or far)
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How do you feel when you read historians about Arab civilization and the Arab Golden Age? 👇
Sigrid Hunke In her book "Allah's sun over the Occident"
the influence exerted by the Arabs on the West was the first step in freeing Europe from Christianity
We cannot ignore the fact that for over 750 years in the last millennium Arabs were the bearers of the torch of culture
(first chancellor Oxford Robert Grosseteste ):The newly translated Arabic and Greek treatises had an immediate effect on the University of Oxford.
The thinker Leopold Weiss or “Muhammad Asad” underlined the role of Cordova in paving the way for the age of renaissance, saying: “We would not be exaggerating if we said: The modern scientific age in which we live did not start in European cities, but in Islamic centers; in Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo, and Cordova.”
The cities of Arabian Spain, as Irving noted, “became the resort of Christian artisans, to instruct themselves in the useful arts. The universities of Toledo, Cordoba, Seville, and Granada, were sought by the pale student from other lands to acquaint himself with the sciences of the Arabs, and the treasured lore of antiquity.”
Gustave Le Bon was a French Orientalist and researcher in sociology and psychology. Among his famous books is La Civilization des Arabes.
he said: History has not seen conquerors more merciful than the Arabs ..
Gustave Le Bon said
“Few are the nations that excelled the Arabs in civility. No nation has ever achieved the greatest number of inventions within the shortest time as the Arabs did
And he said :
"Within some centuries the Arabs changed Spain totally as per
academic and economic advancement and made her the leader
of entire Europe. This change was not only academic and economic but moral as well. They taught the Christians a valuable human character or at least tried to teach them i.e. to tolerate rival religions. They were so polite towards the conquered nations that they allowed the bishops and fathers of
churches to hold their congregations.”
“The Arabs had no sooner completed their conquest of Spain than they began to carry out the message of civilization in it." - Gustave Le Bon
De Lacy O'Leary in "Arabic Thought in History"
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"The Greek material received by the Arabs was not simply passed on by them to others who came after. It has a very real life and development in its Arabic surroundings. In astronomy and mathematics, the work of the Greek and Indian scientists was coordinated and there a very real advance was made. The Arabs not only extended what they had received from the Greeks but checked and corrected older records."
While comparing the Islamic rule in Andalusia(Spain) with the Roman Dark Ages that lasted for 300 yrs, French historian Gustave Le Bon substantiate his finding with such beautiful remarks about the then Arabs nd Muslim rulers of Rome in his book "Civilization of Arabs"
“Within a century from the birth of Islam, the Arab empire
expanded from Sind River to Spain."
Sigrid Hunke In her book "Allah's sun over the Occident"
the influence exerted by the Arabs on the West was the first step in freeing Europe from Christianity
We cannot ignore the fact that for over 750 years in the last millennium Arabs were the bearers of the torch of culture
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@justusscepticushumanus4848 Relax! why are you angry !
The Arabs had an alphabet, poets and writers! Even your poets depend in their poetry, Metres and Rhymes on pre-Islamic Arab poets and imitate them in poetry and literature! Even Khosrau's doctor was an Arab (Al-Harith bin Kalda), although the Arabs were "small kingdoms", while the Persians were an empire that lacked culture, literature and scholars..
And when the Arabs made an empire, they created a golden age for them, and they had cultural and civilizational influence!
Another example ! The Greeks were small kingdoms, but they had philosophers and knowledge, while the Achaemenids (Persians) were a huge empire and lacked knowledge!
Same with the Greeks ..
And when the Greeks made an empire, they created a golden age for them, and they had cultural and civilizational influence !
So, why was Khosrow's doctor an Arab and not a Persian?
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