Comments by "Classical LP Vault" (@classicallpvault8251) on "History Debunked"
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@fahedal-ajmi4015 My response to this is going to be quite complex so please bear with me:
I don't mind people who are hostile to Israel based on what they perceive as the problem of Jewish political and economic influence but I do think they're basing their ideas on faulty logic.
The '1948 ethnic cleansing' and this talk about 'apartheid' makes no sense to me when applying elementary laws of logic. Israeli leadership called on the Arabs to stay out of the war, and those who did were granted citizenship. Arab Israelis have full political and economic rights and have been in the highest positions of political leadership including as junior coalition partners, have become government ministers, high court judges, and are, if they're islamic or Druze, exempt from army service (although many of them volunteer). If blacks in South Africa had those rights there would have been no apartheid in South Africa so there's none in Israel either.
After 1948 100.000 more Jews were driven out of Arab nations than Arabs were driven out of their homes in Israel. Many of whom, by the way, were labour migrants from surrounding countries who came and work for the British and the Jews and therefore didn't have a strong claim to 'indigenous population' status anyways. Things like that happen during and in the aftermath of wars and this is a similar issue to the Benes doctrine in post-war Czechoslovakia, which removed Sudeten Germans who did not have family ties with Czechs from their homes and transferred them to Germany. This was simply a logical outcome of Germany losing WWII. At the time, population transfers were not yet regarded as illegal by definition.
I don't have any issues with Jews in Israel. By and large they support traditional family values and regard themselves as Westerners. Nor do I have issues with diamond cutters in Antwerp for instance. Nor with the many succesful Jewish classical musicians, both performers and composers, I own records of. They're not enemies of Western civilisation.
I have issues with the highly influential Jews in the financial sector, in Hollywood, and in the media in the West, especially in the US. People like George Soros. Board members of big banks, executives in the pornographic industry and in mainstream cinema, and financial administrators. They tend to be left-wing, vote Democratic, and are hostile towards both western civilisation and to Israel and should be stopped. There is absolutely some truth to the notion of Jewish bad actors undermining western civilisation but it's a very small and easily identifiable sub-group of wealthy secular Jews mainly in the US which causes the problem. Which can easily be solved by dealing with their source of income. Ban porn. Reform banking regulations and make it unprofitable to engage in rent-seeking and introduce capital punishment for irregularities in banking at the systemic level, like the bad credit scam which caused the 2007 financial meltdown. Remove the accreditation of any learning institution which promotes woke ideology. Gender studies and colonial literature departments and other humanities faculties should no longer have the right to award degrees.
And most importantly: stop watching dumb mainstream films promoting woke ideology. Stop watching television. Stop giving cellphones and tablets to children. Not only would this cut us free from the bad influence of societally undermining activists and businesspeople wether Jews or gentiles, it would deal with the nefarious influence that all kinds of celebrities, most of whom are abject degenerates, have on our hearts and minds.
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It has, just not via immigration and not in societies already more advanced than islamic ones like western nations. Islam was an improvement, at least in terms of social organisation and technological development, in tribal lands in Africa like northern Nigeria.
At least it was a step up from the quasi prehistoric tribal culture which was native there before Arab and Berber slave traders introduced islam, at least to the Muslim converts who then went on to wage war on and enslave their neighbours and sell them to the Arabs by the millions.
Islam also likely improved the standing of formerly Hindu populations in Java, who, without it, could not have risen to dominate what later became Indonesia. Yet again, at the peril of their neighbours, be it the Batak from Sumatra or the remaining Hindus on Bali, whom they have been treating as inferior to them since Dutch colonial times. The irony is that the even more devout Aceh muslim population isn't exactly on friendly terms with them either and has only been kept from rebellion by federalisation and allowing them to introduce Sharia.
So yeah, there's instances where islamisation actually benefits the societies adopting it - just not via immigration but via conversion and then doing what islam does best: causing its adherents to subjugate their non-muslim neighbours.
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