Comments by "LordVader1094" (@LordVader1094) on "Finding Sky" channel.

Well said.
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@NiinyyEUW There's literally 2, and a literal genetic aberration i.e. intersex that combines elements of the two.
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@wolfofthewest8019 Exactly. Society's relation to free sex has become a major detriment that has a serious negative impact on mental health, just as much as repressing oneself and not acknowledging what their sexuality is. The fact is, the hedonism that's held up as a shining beacon is only good for a very tiny minority, yet everyone is encouraged to go to that level when human beings need moderation. Sex is for procreation, on a biological level. And outside of that, it has little use except for pleasure. But all anyone wants is pleasure now, in a never-ending spiral of trying to stave off the emptiness, the nihilism and despair caused by rejecting higher spiritual beliefs and thinking that all that matters is how good we can feel as often as possible. We can't be allowed to think about how what feels good is not actually good for us automatically in the long run, because that might bring into collapse all that we've been told about those supposedly old, outmoded belief systems.
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As a bisexual guy I have to agree. I'm so sick of the LGBT "community" because nobody wants to call them out on all the horrible behavior and straight up grooming that occurs for fear of being called bigoted, rather than holding the queer community to the same standard as everyone else. There's not enough sensible LGBT people speaking out, and self-policing within the community is heavily discouraged as, you guessed it, internalized queerphobia. It's not bigoted to be annoyed with people making a spectacle of something that by their own admission they had no say in. Pride mattered when gay people weren't accepted in society. Now they very much are accepted, and Pride has become a self-masturbatory practice that's designed to be as obnoxious as possible to get a reaction from normal people.
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Same here. It really feels like no one wants to talk about this without either saying "just stop believing in God lul" or trying to modify scriptures of Holy books, which arguably defeats the purpose of following that religion in the first place.
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"who did Jesus actually hang out with- it wasn't the righteous but those who societal hated: the poor, the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the lepers" Yes, agreed. But Jesus also says this is because these are the ones he's trying to turn from sin. He says himself that you don't give medicine to a healthy man, you give it to the sick. That alone shows that he doesn't approve of what they're doing and views it as against God, but knows that rejecting them won't save them. But people hate Christians trying to minister to them or treat them well while still viewing them as sinners.
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Religion, however, provides a deeper source of imparting good values than mere secular altruism. It's like the power of tradition multiplied many times, and applied to an entire society rather than one family. It's oftentimes easier to fall away from altruism without the backing of a higher aspect.
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@samurguy9906 Yes, people ignore the very real value of being voluntarily Celibate in a society so focused on lust and vain sexual encounters. Christian tradition lauds Celibacy for everyone.
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@DontClickPlayOnLameBoyLee This is just a repeated falsehood, that ignores the context of forgiving all. To be forgiven one must actually be repentant of their sins. If someone doesn't view something as a sin or wrong, they aren't repenting, now are they?
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@vallenshield4236 Being gay and acting on it is different.
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I think this is the best way to put it. Any religion is about rejecting part of yourself, what you might view as natural urges, in pursuit of a greater goal or ideal. It's not just rejecting acting on one's sexuality, after all. It's just that is the one most contentious to our modern belief system. But being angry, or adulterous, or over indulgent are all bad too.
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@PariahPsypomp6775 Literally the most basic take possible you've got there, however... You see proof of original sin on the regular, in that human nature is terrible. It's writ large on a daily basis, lol.
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If you're talking about from a Christian perspective, that's just blatantly untrue if you read the Bible. Adultery is a pretty huge sin, for one.
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Well yes, religions themselves teach how believers can fall away as everyone is tempted towards baser instincts. But most modern values are based on religious ones that are the founding stones of society as we know it. It's easy to say "you don't need religion to find your values" but in truth, it's far easier said than done. For society as a whole, it's good to have one or a few central guiding principals rather than 10,000 different competing visions of what is moral undermined by the belief that in truth nothing matters except what we choose to make matter. The pros of religion still greatly outweigh the cons, despite a fair bit of propaganda to the contrary.
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The problem is that's the reality: most people will do bad without a guiding principal. On Earth, we have laws to discourage people from murdering or stealing, and those come from most religious beliefs. It's like saying that "it's pathetic" that we need laws for that, but that's the point: human beings are oftentimes pathetic, and most religions are intended to uplift people from that pathetic nature in search of something higher than themselves. Religious belief gives a higher reason beyond mere self-preservation in our current earthly lives to do good. Because the fact is, without laws or religion, mankind is little more than the ape he came from.
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sqwxcbc Nihilism, hedonism, suicide.
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@ChanakyanStudent7971 Religion is philosophy that actually acts upon the world, instead of staying above it in a crystal tower bringing no change upon the Earth.
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@Kim-ct5mn Exactly. When so many of our modern values line up so closely with religious beliefs, it's not much of a surprise that many would want to just go back to spiritual beliefs that uplift human beings beyond mere intelligent apes surviving on a dustball in a lonely universe. There's been a truly harmful effect of removing higher spiritual beliefs, writ large in the vast sense of purposelessness, nihilism, self-destructive hedonism and outright suicidal thought that's gripped our generation. To ignore that, I find, is to ignore the reality of what atheistic beliefs permeating society has brought on. It's not really all sunshine and roses that we've gotten out of rejecting traditional belief systems so rapidly. And it's a problem not easily answered, unless one simply re-embraces those traditional beliefs.
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People in general are haughty, intolerant, hypocritical and hateful. Religion doesn't automatically increase that. Also, you naturally wouldn't notice all the lowkey, positive, accepting and empathetic religious people. You only notice the worst examples, and forget the more common examples of good.
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As a bisexual guy, Pride is awful, and I'd argue the LGBT community at large is awful too. I'm so sick of the "community" because nobody wants to call them out on all the horrible behavior and straight up grooming that occurs for fear of being called bigoted, rather than holding the queer community to the same standard as everyone else. There's not enough sensible LGBT people speaking out, and self-policing within the community is heavily discouraged as, you guessed it, internalized queerphobia. It's not bigoted to be annoyed with people making a spectacle of something that by their own admission they had no say in. Pride mattered when gay people weren't accepted in society. Now they very much are accepted, and Pride has become a self-masturbatory practice that's designed to be as obnoxious as possible to get a reaction from normal people.
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@grandmidoister8661 That kind of cuts out all the other stuff Jesus said about following him. You need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. But obviously OP is wrong that being gay automatically means you aren't a Christian. It's acting on urges that counts at the most basic level.
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@kit76149 And yet functionally it does a lot more to cause society as a whole to keep morals and values than the 10,000 different ways that humanist philosophy and others try to purport, because in the end it all comes down to "do as thou wilt", which doesn't really guide anyone. It can work for a small subset of individuals to find their own beliefs and codes, but it's hardly a principal that's of value to humanity as a whole, who need belief in something more to carry on. Religion helps give a unifying code of belief for a better society.
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@nooneinparticular1609 Well said.
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"The greatest issue we face within our generation might be the battle between comfort and critical thinking." This is spot on. It seems many of us can't imagine denying ourselves pleasure for any reason :/
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@dhaloh This just fails to be worthwhile at all. People are discussing it in the context of religious belief systems. Not embracing more of the same "do as thou wilt" attitude that got our generation to the point where we're killing ourselves on a regular basis. Romance is not everything. Sometimes, being a celibate monk and contemplating higher things is better. It depends on the person. But there is great value in denying yourself things others take for granted, like fasting.
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@kendonfahr8337 Pretty sure you're also coping, because while I also thought that was the case because I was told so, it's pretty clear that he was referring to men with men, not men with boys only and the pederasty angle is a modern interpretation to be more compatible with modern beliefs :/ Unless you can point me to something that really does prove it's only about pederasty.
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Satanists are just edgy humanists though. They themselves state they don't actually believe in Satan.
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Except it doesn't say that. It's acting on it that makes it a sin. You don't go to hell for being gay in and of itself. Not to mention even if one acts on it, they can repent. The Bible actually has more to say about rich men not getting into heaven than homosexuals lol
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@Pikog777 The act is the sin, not being gay in and of itself. The Bible verses you noted condemn the action.
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Keeping everyone happy is easier said than done. Even the most reasonable policies and attitudes can make someone unhappy.
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@CrownVictoria-zl6dh Functionally both are just as bad on a biblical level. Both are also predicated on actions people take.
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@THEMIDK Man's clearly never heard of gay celibacy.
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@mariatrinitymya8618 Tbf, that ignores that for Christianity, the Old Testament was superseded by the covenant of the New Testament. Which included many of the Jewish Law's rules about women being ostracized during their period (which was largely for health reasons at the time) or not eating certain kinds of food.
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As a bisexual guy I've been wrestling with this question myself. I've never given up on my faith but I'm trying to work through it and figure it out, and I came to the same conclusion as you that trying to do a buffet of God's teachings to match our modern values (like many denominations that try to contort Christianity via selective verses to be pro-gay) is a mistake, yet at the same time it's hard to square how to handle the situation other than being celibate towards the same sex. It's easier for me because I'm bi and mostly into women, but it's even harder to imagine how to square that as someone who's truly homosexual. Do they just give up all romance and love, and become celibate monks as the Bible says? Maybe that's the hard truth of it. I'm not sure yet. I do feel that the solid doctrine and tradition of many ancient faiths are a guiding principal that shouldn't have been abandoned. Even if, as atheists say, none of it is real, it has to be measured on the actual physical benefit. And believing there is no God largely leads to pointless hedonism, nihilism and self-aggrandizement with no thought for the future. People who are religious are statistically more happy than those without, so at that point what does the "truth" matter when people are doing things like killing themselves at an unprecedented rate because of believing there's no hope or point in life? The answers non-religious philosophies give are always high minded but never practical for the average person compared to the tenets of religions that are founded on thousands of years of deep thought and introspection.
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Yeah you didn't understand, her point was that everyone has a religion. Everyone has something that fills that "God-shaped" hole in their heart, whether politics, religion itself, or even anti-theism. Everyone has something they care about to a religious degree.
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Yeah I honestly suggest for most anyone to start on the New Testament rather than the Old first. The Bible is chronological but it's not always best to start at the beginning.
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Philosophy is meaningless prattle without religion, in practice.
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Yeah no duh, it's literally the primary religion in our culture.
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"and why it was even medically recommended in the medieval times (yes you heard me right)" Do you have even a single credible source to back this up? This sounds like mythical revisionism. I was believing your comment until you threw that out there and now I'm in doubt of all you've said. I've very curious about it because, like you, I'm a bi-sexual Christian trying to figure out what the Bible and God by proxy truly expects of me.
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A lot of those denominations are so far off the Bible in every other way it's hard to square them being Christian. They're more of just using the name and image, but making up their own doctrine as it pleases them to fit modern standards. Protestantism is a mess, simple as.
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The Old Testament is Jewish belief, lol
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@BadlydrawnBen Yeah Paul in the Bible encourages most people to be celibate in fact. And really? You've never seen the "God made you gay" thing before as an argument? You must be pretty young lol
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Most Protestant denominations are just coping, as they removed deuterocanonical books of the Bible too that were accepted canon since the earliest days of Christianity. All those newest groups are doing is modifying the Bible further for their own goals and needs to fit modern morality, rather than whatever real truth lies within.
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That's just a functional nothing, in practice. You might as well be atheistic or agnostic at that point, because you don't have any actual beliefs beyond "I guess there's something out there lol"
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@Bigtortuga1 And literally all of that is taken from Christian doctrine. One does not exist without the other. It's simply that most humanist beliefs remove the religious aspect, yet while that works for higher philosophy it's not working on a practical level for the average person.
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Lol nah, that's a dead religion with no practices left. It's essentially Neo-Pagan LARPing. Also, the Greek Gods and Goddesses were nothing to aspire to, lol.
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@Mr-GH Damn that's deep, and true.
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