Comments by "Spartas Edge" (@SpartasEdge) on "Channel 4 News"
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@james2091991 A rubbish argument. Cars are transportation andcserve that purpose, while guns are made and designed for one purpose only, to maim and kill.
It's a lot easier to stop someone with a knife than it is someone with a gun, and cars aren't great for it, they'd be too damaged quite quicklly, they're not designed for killing,,unlikr guns, and you're limited in where you can go with them, while guns are portable and kill very effectively and clinically, after all, that is the very thing and sole purpose they are designed to do as i say
Do you have the statistics for avarage ammount of deaths in a single car rampage vs single gun rampage? How many car ramages has there even BEEN vs gun rampages in North America? And how many people have been killed by deliberate gun deaths vs deliberate car kills in the USA?
You have to question the moral mindet of someone that defends the ownership of guns, items that are soley designed and serve no other purpose other than to maim and kill.
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@bants1385 Yawn.. 🙄 Very different things, and a terrible and tired argument.
Cars are made for transportation and serve that purpose, while guns are made and designed for one purpose only, to maim and kill.
Unlike guns, you're limited in where you can go with a car and not ideal for killing en-masse, while guns are portable and kill very effectively, clinically and reliably,, after all, that is the very thing and sole purpose they are designed to do as i say
Do you have the statistics for avarage amount of deaths in single car rampages vs single gun rampages? How many car rampages has there even BEEN vs gun rampages in North America? And how many people have been killed by deliberate gun deaths vs deliberate car kills in the USA?
You have to question the moral mindet of someone that defends the ownership of guns, items that are soley designed and serve no other purpose other than to maim and kill.
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@grimnir8872 You say the 'misuse' of guns, what other purpose is there for guns other than to maim and kill? they are made for one purpose only, to be a lethal weapon.
As for guns being for self defence. If nobody had guns, they would not be needed for self defence in the first place, it's a problem that has created itself by letting everyone have guns, and everyone being allowed guns is clearly worse than no-one being allowed them, the gun death statistics in the US show this all to vividly. The solution to this, is to outlaw the sale guns and ammo, sooner or later gun ownership would die out, guns will be seized over time, and ammo expires.
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If there was a vote on whether we should take all these people, but anyone who votes to keep them has to sign to agree to pay a share out of their wages/benefits etc between them to cover costs of buildings their homes and paying for extra services and processing costs and their allowances, split between all that voted to keep them and those that voted to to take them don't have to pay anything, I'd be interested to see how many would vote to take them then, when they have to cover the costs of it all between themselves and themselves only.. 🤔
And this isn't even going into the extra strain this influx would put on housing stock, NHS, doctors, the roads, public transport and benefits system but these idiot Liberals are too stupid to think about the logistics of it, and happy to fight the corner of these mostly young male financial migrants, as long es everyone else is paying fir it too, to gove them this false view of thenselves that that sumhow makes THEM a good person.. As i said at the beginning, ask these Liberals to pay all the costs and housing themselves, and then let's see how many wouod fight for them to stay.
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Who gives a sh*t if it's not an earthly paradise! The UK is not obliged to provide an earhly paradise to these people, they're not even UK citizens, and who really lives in an 'earthly paradise' anyway, not many.
These migrants forced themselves onto the UK to make them responsible for taking care of them and subverted the normal method of applying for asylum (crossing mamy safe countries to do so i will add), so whatever happens to them when they get to the UK, is frankly on themselves.
Frankly i think we our navy and border farce should tow them back to the French beaces and say to the useless French police as we do "We did your job for you, here you go, here's YOUR migrants back, you're welcome".
These leftie are so out of touch with reality it's disturbing. It's worrying that they don't seem to see this as the crisis is is, that it's unsustainable and unrealistic to be taking in all these people, and that something needs to be done about it.
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@eraldorh A gun is not a tool, it's a weapon. Re: Guns don't people, people do. What a terrbile argument. People couldn't shoot people with gun, if they didn't HAVE guns could they?! Lol People with guns, can kill people withour guns so much easier, that is what they are designed for, to kill, and they are good at it.
No, guns do not cure mental health and i never claimed they did, and if anything the existence of mental health iss ues is more of a reason NOT sell guns than sell them, so yo uare making my argument for me, and if no-one had guns, they wouldn't be needed for first defence in the first place, it's a problem that's created itself.
Youu never answered me question. How many people wuld have died in the recent high school massacre had he not been able to get a gun? if he had done itt at all without one.
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@TheFakeNewsFrog Len had a good point. cars are not designed to kill, this is not what they are designed for, they have a multitude of useful uses. I'll tell you what Fake news, you list to me the positve and useful uses a gun has in day to day society, and i will list to you the positive and useful uses cars have in dayvto day society, and we'll compare notes on what we both came up with.
Car's are not the death machines you imply them to be. How many people do you think you could run over before it became unusable? and it's not like you go go into a high school with a car, so i'm guessing not many,, because that is not what cars are designed for. If you had enough ammo, you could kill untold people with a single gun. How many deaths has there beem through intentional death with a car vs intentional deaths via guns in the USA?
Also, ho wmany people do you think would have died in the recent high school massacre if he hadn't been able to get hold of a gun? would he had gone on his rampage at all if he didn't have one, you have to wonder..
Re@ what you said to the other guy. Of course guns need somone to aim and pull the trigger, that's how guns work! Lol The problem is, they allow killing to be easier and more effecient, that is what they are made for, and they allow people to kill more easily and effectively, and the problem is, people DO take aim and pull the trigger, which is why they are dangerous to have around. People with guns is more dangerous than people without guns, it's not rocket science.
I have to wonder at the mentality of people who argue to be able to carry murder devices around..
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@TheFakeNewsFrog 1. It hasn't happened yet, so 'so far' you're wrong and 'so far' I'm right, and if that ever changes THEN come back to me and I'll tell you you're right, but until that happens, I'm right 👍
I argue that to let your population arm themselves with lethal weapons is a high price to pay in a society, especially for something (that you admit yourself) is unlikely to happen, in fact I'd argue it's utter stupidity given the vast number and ongoing American gunshot deaths as a result of this, and if you disagree with this, then that makes your line of thinking and logic questionable as well. Tell me Fake News, how long has nuclear armed countries been around? And how many nuclear armed countries have been invaded, or attempted to be invaded, EVER in that time? To arm a population with firearms on what you admitted yourseif was a small chance, is stupidity.
2. What crime did the person you mentioned commit exactly? What did he do EXAXTLY that he was fined for?
I live in the the UK also, and have never heard of a single case of anyone being punished for disagreeing with sexuality or sexual identity. Punishing people that are harsssing others for their sexuality, identity, race is not a bad thing, that is a good thing the way i see it, discrimination=bad you see.
If you don't like it that people can't be hateful and persecute other people for their race, sexual identity, sexuality etc in the UK (as you claimed), or carry firearms and are able to shoot each others in the UK, then why haven't you moved from the UK to the US then?...
3. It's not my job to substantiate YOUR statement that's YOUR job Lol and if you don't, i will consider your claim exactly that, unsubstantiated. So again, provide proof of militias involved in BLM. Show me to any official information that refers to militias, let alone sanctioned militias. Also, tell me why that's not a job for the police.
4. Do you know the percentage of gunshot deaths in the USA to % of gunshot deaths in the UK, proportionate to population size?
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@reallymakesyouthink Your emphesis on a man crossing a road, while you avoiding answering my question, shows that you know it's not just about a msn crossing the road. You say the hostilities were not connected to what the march was about, so it's therefore perfectly reasonable for me to ascertain if this is the case, by finding out what the march was about, to see if was about more than a man simply crossing a road, which is what you are claiming here; and this is why you seem scared to answer the question.
With all this in mind,i willssk you once agsin; Do you know what the march was about or not? I will again give you 3 (and no more than 3) chances to answer this question, starting from your next reply to tell me what the march was about, and if you fail to answer this question after thise chances,; i will assume that you have no idea what the march was about, and therefore couldn't possibly know if the altercation was linked to the theme of the march, or you know they are linked, proving me right thst there is a correlation.
I already won this conversation a while back, when you couldn't answer my questions; it's just been entertainment for me since then; but if you can't answer the question about what the march was about, this also means you couldn't possibly know if it's altercation is rekating to it or not 🙌
If you have failed the answer this simple question by the end of your third reply; all i will do after that, is laugh at you and your failure yet again, and take great pleasure in reminding you that you have yet again lost this conversation, which is absolutely fine by me 👍
For someone called 'it really makes you think' you don't seem to know much Lol Do you know what the march is about out not? As i say, you have 3 chances to answer that, and tell me what it's about if you do.
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When will the one's who want to rule out leavibg into WTO terms wake up and realise that there is NO deal to be had?! The EU have said multiple times now that they are not willing to budge from the deal they have already offered, (and that's never going to change as long as the threat of us leaving without a deal is off the table) which is essentially surrendering to the EU and unthinkable to even consider accepting.
So the ONLY way forward, is to plan for a WTO Brexit, and if the EU finally comes to realise we are going to leave if they don't offer a realistic deal and offer a reasonable, then fine, but if they don't, we leave anyway and then try to make a deal after we leave, when the EU has an incentive to do so, if that doesn't happen, then so be it, we still have our sovereignty and the whole world to go out and make individual deals with.
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