Comments by "A T" (@AT-bq1kg) on "British Stand" channel.

@bluestream50 But that's the point. Only a person who is asleep does not understand the impact of their own behaviour. This is pure mindless intimidation. You might not agree with the politicians and you might not want to associate with them, but you can do it in a way that doesn't amount to intentional harassment and intimidation, which is a crime by the way.
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@azillliasmith2734 This is not expressing anger. You heard quite clearly what was being shouted. This is mindless aggression. Aggression is not the same as expression of a feeling. Expressing anger would look like writing things down, crying. It doesn't involve aggression outward
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@wotzcheez Ok don't say I didn't warn you.
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@mobyd7990 So you're saying that you don't want to participate in society. That means you have no say in what goes on in the country. That's your choice. If you don't want to participate in society you have no right to complain when society doesn't work for you. Do you?
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@bibby65 You have no right to complain about Muslims who intimitate politicians if you encourage and support intimidation of politicians yourself. Only a small child would think it's fair to intimidate someone because another group do it. Are you a small child? If you are you have no business in politics
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@dkh97 not trying to gaslight you. Its just obvious to me that you're wrong. Yes the customers in the pub were angry, but their behaviour was aggressive. Their behaviour is not a direct expression of their feelings. Expressing anger in a healthy way isn't intimidating. Being angry has got nothing to do with another person, it's down to having values and expectations that are at odds with reality in that moment.
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@Charlie-oj4wj These comments are disturbing and disappointing. I'm not sure what you're trying to defend as you are not really developed enough to live in civilised society if you don't understand the difference between expressing a feeling and being aggressive. What else can I say?
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@CarolWoosey-ck2rg You can't call for the arrest of Hamas supporters while encouraging the harassment of politicians. It doesn't take a lot of thought to see how you're contradicting yourself
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@skylark1237 So what if they are? Is that your business? Your business is what goes on inside your locus of control. If you think you can control other people with violence then you just have not learned enough about the world you live in
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@skylark1237 You can play mental gymnastics until the cows come home but the facts are the facts. This video was condoning violence towards politicians. This comment was also condoning and encouraging violence towards politicians. There are other comments on this video encouraging and condoning violence towards politicians. If you don't know what amounts to violence then look it up. Chat gpt is very helpful for these things. It even gives you the pieces of legislation that covers these acts. I think the problem some people in the UK have is they are simply not aware of of some of a) their actions b) the impact of their actions on others c) the consequences of their actions. I think a lot of the public were shocked and educated when the government decided to prosecute crimes during the riots. It will be in your interest to educate yourself about what amounts to criminal behaviour in the UK, you might be surprised that some of what what you consider normal justfiable every day behaviour is actually criminal behaviour in the UK and has been for a long time.
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@skylark1237 I'm not saying that politics is not your business. I'm saying that you cannot control other people. You can only control what is inside your actual locus of control. Your actual locus of control includes your thoughts, emotions, reactions and your body. You don't have any control over what people do or say. You have the right to voice your opinion and try to influence others, but you have no right to use violence (verbal or non verbal as defined by the law) to control others. What happened in this pub was a mindless act of violence towards a politician because the people in the pub didn't get their way.
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@skylark1237 What Keir Starmer said is actually true. He pointed out that violence is not protest, it's crime. Legitimate protest is when you voice opinion while respecting other people's boundaries. Shouting at other people, intimidating them is disrespectful and shows a clear violation of not only the politicians boundaries but the violation of the offenders boundary too. Violence, intimidation, coercion and abuse is not covered by freedom of speech. This should be obvious to you. It's disturbing that it isn't obvious and I think the government have decided to send a clear message about what they will tolerate and what they will not tolerate. They acted within the law. This is why most people accept how Keir Starmer responded to the riots. It's only the people who don't understand this that have a problem with how Keir Starmer responded to the riots.
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@skylark1237 I think the problem is you don't really understand what violence is. Verbal violence is simply the use of words used to intimidate, control, harass, cause harm. Basically if you're aggressive in any way then you're being violent. If you need more information then consult chat gpt first and then go and read some case law, ask a solicitor or do other types of research. Even manipulating someone is called considered violence. How can it not be? What do you consider violence? Is there a point at which you can define what is violence and not violent? From my perspective and from the politicians perspective the behaviour of the people in the pub was mindless intimidation. It's not "anger" it's aggression. Anger is a feeling, it's not an action. The action in response to anger is either constructive or destructive. Constructive behaviour driven by anger will be using the angry energy to write a respectful letter to your MP in protest.
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@skylark1237 What feels better to you? If I call you a name Or If I say I'm angry with the situation and I want to appeal to you to do something about it When you attack people they don't listen anyway. But when you express your anger in a positive way then they do listen because they are not being attacked.
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@skylark1237 You're showing me that you are far right. You're incapable of growing through dialogue. This means you're on the extreme of the right wing. Most people can think about things because they want to understand the truth. You seem incapable of doing that.
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@philleggitt3005 I feel I'm not really getting anywhere. You can't reason with unreasonable people. There are 800 likes supporting the intimidation and harassment of politicians. How any of you can call yourself British with British values is beyond me. You're not a Brit if you intimidate or support the intimidation of people. It's just not a democratic value
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@robertseavor4304 So someone who calls out criminal behaviour is a troll? I think Starmer had a point, he was right to call this thuggery. Perhaps not far right, but it is thuggery and it's not British. It's just mindless violence
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@robertseavor4304 You want an echo chamber. You don't want to be challenged to think. Intentional intimidation and harassment is a crime in every democratic country across the world. If you support it or justify it in any way then you're simply communicating that you're anti social and that your views are beyond the pale.
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@mygreatbigfoot1679 If you support violence towards anyone no matter what you think they have done you're simply not British. Pseudo patriotism is easily seen through. People who intimidate and harass others are simply anti social. Just because people get away with it doesn't mean it's a cultural norm.
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@johndilloway9762 I've reported the commenters who commited crimes today to the police and i have reported the creator of this channel. I won't stand by and let thugs ruin it for the remainder of us.
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@janetcryer887 The commenter did not say something the government disagreed with. The commenter committed a crime..and I have reported every single person on this video who have committed a crime today.
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@johndilloway9762 I reported this as a crime to the met police
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@janetcryer887 You're not protesting by encouraging violence, harassment , intimidation etc. it's actually a criminal offence and I've reported many people on this channel and the channel creator. Today people crossed the line
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@butchershoppequartet8690 Encouraging the intimidation of others is a crime. And it's concerning that your comment has received 1.3k likes now. Please consider removing the comment
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@johndilloway9762 Not just this video, other videos from other content creators and every single comment I've read today that supports, condones, encourages, or incites acts of intimidation and or violence towards anyone not just labour politicians and Keir Starmer. There is no need for this. These are crimes and have been crimes for a very long time in the UK. If you support or condone or encourage violence then you're simply anti social and you need to be taught a lesson by the justice system. Genuine people are now suffering and every time someone does something unlawful it ruins our chances of doing anything to correct it because genuine protesters get associated with the anti social people who break the law
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@johndilloway9762 You will find out soon enough when you get a knock on your front door
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@Charlie-oj4wj If you're not sure what the laws are in the UK ask chat gpt. It's all there. It even tells you what legislation all of these crimes are classed under.
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@Charlie-oj4wj what amounts to intimidation uk criminal law? Intimidation under UK criminal law generally refers to actions that instill fear or apprehension in another person, often to compel them to act or refrain from acting in a certain way. Here are some key points regarding intimidation in UK law: 1. **Definition**: Intimidation can involve threats of violence, aggressive behavior, or coercive tactics that make the victim feel unsafe or fearful. 2. **Legal Framework**: Intimidation can be addressed under several laws, including: - **Protection from Harassment Act 1997**: This act makes it an offense to pursue a course of conduct that amounts to harassment, which can include intimidation. - **Criminal Justice Act 1988**: This act includes provisions against threatening behavior. - **Offences Against the Person Act 1861**: This includes offenses related to assault and battery, which can involve intimidation. 3. **Types of Intimidation**: This can include physical intimidation (e.g., threats of violence), emotional or psychological intimidation (e.g., threats to disclose personal information), and economic intimidation (e.g., threats to damage someone’s livelihood). 4. **Intent**: For a behavior to be classified as intimidation, there usually needs to be an element of intention to intimidate or recklessness as to whether the victim would be intimidated. 5. **Consequences**: Engaging in intimidation can lead to criminal charges, which may result in fines, restraining orders, or imprisonment, depending on the severity of the conduct and its impact on the victim. If you need specific legal advice or assistance, it is advisable to consult a legal professional who specializes in criminal law.
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@Charlie-oj4wj is encouraging intimidation a crime uk? Yes, encouraging intimidation can be considered a crime in the UK under certain circumstances. Here are some key points regarding this issue: 1. **Encouragement of Crime**: Under the Serious Crime Act 2007, it is an offense to encourage or assist in the commission of a crime. If someone encourages another person to intimidate someone else, this could potentially lead to criminal liability. 2. **Harassment Legislation**: If the encouragement leads to harassment or intimidation that falls under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, the person encouraging such behavior could be subject to legal action if it constitutes a course of conduct that amounts to harassment. 3. **Public Order Offenses**: Encouraging intimidation in public settings, such as protests or gatherings, may lead to charges under public order laws if it incites violence or disorder. 4. **Conspiracy and Aiding**: If someone actively promotes or supports intimidation that results in criminal acts, they may also be charged with conspiracy or aiding and abetting those acts. 5. **Workplace Context**: In a workplace or institutional context, encouraging intimidation can lead to disciplinary actions and civil liability, especially if it violates workplace policies against bullying or harassment. In summary, while simply expressing a view that may condone intimidation might not always be criminal, actively encouraging or promoting intimidation can lead to serious legal consequences in the UK.
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