Comments by "Dennis" (@Dennis-nc3vw) on "Warfronts"
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Whenever I see the hatred the US has earned for overthrowing Saddam Hussein, I always feel like I'm living in an Orwellian, dystopian alternate timeline. Young people may never be able to understand it, but Saddam Hussein was the Kim Jung Un of his time, a leader who was just...objectively evil from the world's perspective. Imagine how you'd feel if you saw your President overthrow Kim Jung Un, and give North Koreans the right to vote, and 20 years later he became one of the most despised men in the world because of it.
When you live through that, it shifts your entire world. It's hard to believe in anything, not to be a total nihilist when it comes to foreign policy. So I have to say no, the US should not have intervened in Syria. I think, looking at history, we should pursue a policy of dealing with tyranny/genocide/terrorist the same way we dealt with Communism: containment. Don't squash it were it lives, just prevent it from crossing the borders. We did the right thing by containing Saddam when he invaded Kuwait. We messed up when we tried to squash him in his homeland.
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You don't know that. If we intervened in Rwanda, one of two things would have happened.
1) We would have stopped the genocide, but the Noam Chomskies of the world would say genocide was a false pretext and never would have happened on a large scale and we were just there to defend American corporate interests (and yes, you can spin literally anything the US does that way. Afghanistan was one of the most resource poor countries on Earth and people still said we were there for Cobalt or some nonsense).
2) US interventionism would have just delayed the inevitable, and generated more anger at the Tutsis we were intervening on behalf of. Once the US pulled out, the massacres would happen anyway. Far worse, people would spin it as America's fault, being unaware of what happened in the current timeline we inhabit where America didn't intervene.
If the US can't even overthrow Saddam, who was basically the Kim Jung Un of his time (a leader considered unambiguously evil by 90% of the world), it's hard to imagine we could ever do anything that would earn the world's gratitude. The world's going to suck no matter what, at least if we stay out of it, people can't blame us for their problems.
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@symbiotezilla12345 If we lived in an alternate reality, where we stayed out of the countries at the top and intervened in the ones in the bottom, there's no doubt in my mind you'd be saying exactly the inverse. You can't hear the screams of people who died from wars we didn't wage, you can't see the dead children we didn't kill, so its so easy for you to say we should have gone to those places.
How does it not occur to people how surreal, dystopian, and Orwellian it is that the US is so vilified for going into Iraq and Afghanistan? Saddam Hussein was the Kim Jung Un of his time, a leader considered by 90% of the planet to be unambiguously evil. The Taliban was...well, pretty much the same thing. If we can become hated for toppling them, there's no way I'll believe Rwanda, Syria, etc. couldn't have produced similar outcomes.
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