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Comments by "Dennis" (@Dennis-nc3vw) on "Inside the Kill Zone of Fallujah's “Hell House”" video.
Fun fact: The Iraqi government actually repurposed Abu Ghriab into a torture museum after it was decommissioned, but all of the exhibits were based on Saddam's torture techniques. When asked why they didn't have any exhibit about the 2004 scandal, they said because what Americans did was nothing compared to what Saddam did to prisoners.
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The insanity anti-Americanism breeds is just unreal. During late 2007, the insurgency in the Sunni Triangle had defacto won. The horrors that followed were so terrible half the insurgents switched sides and started fighting for the Americans. The other half coalesced into The Islamic State of Iraq, a precursor to ISIS. So when you say the insurgents were heroes, who are talking about? Are you saying the people in ISIS are heroes, or are you saying the people who themselves realized they were fighting a bad fight were heroes?
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Half those guys switched sides to the US during the Anbar Awakening, they weren't even fighting the good fight from their perspective.
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@yasseralturki7788 The overwhelming majority of innocent Iraqis were killed by the people US soldiers were there to kill and capture, yet you liked them enough to hand your country over to them.
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Sadly 90% of Americans today have no patriotism and simply allow their country and their soldiers to be hideously slandered freely, but for the tiny percent of us who still do, here are some facts to use against the agents of hate: 1) An April 2004 Gallup poll showed Iraqis believe the invasion was "worth it" by a margin of 2 to 1. They only changed their mind in 2006 when sectarian violence kicked into high gear. They mass murdered each other, blamed Americans, and then pretended they never wanted to be liberated. 2) A Global Policy poll taken in May 2004, compiled in a report in June 15, 2004, showed most Iraqis wanted the US to stay in the country until the elections. 3) Half of the insurgents fighting in Fallujah switched sides after they saw the horrors their side brought about wherever it won. This would become known as the Anbar Awakening.
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@raoufrachedi2383 Remember when being a freedom fighter meant you actually had to be fighting for freedom? What freedom were the insurgents fighting for exactly? The freedom to not be able to elect their own government?
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Stop with this nihilistic bullshit. The US liberated Iraq because we have them a chance to elect their own government. If that's not a liberation, there's not a thing on this Earth that is a liberation. Putin isn't letting Donbass elect their own government, he's annexing them.
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Half these insurgents switched sides in 2007 in the Anbar Awakening, and the other half stayed behind to form ISIS. But sure, salute them.
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Fighting for their country? Give me a break. Half of these guys weren't even fighting the good fight from their own perspective because they switched sides to the US during The Anbar Awakening. Poll data also showed that most Iraqis supported the invasion and US presence in 2004.
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Lol, if they were fighting such a good fight, why did half of them switch sides during the Anbar Awakening?
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@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs It matters because the truth about this war is being distorted to promote anti-American hate.
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Stop with this nihilism. Grouping all invasion together is like grouping all rebellions together. Some are good, some are bad. But in April 2004 a Gallup poll showed most Iraqis believed the invasion was "worth it" by a margin of about 2 ot 1.
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@iraq9519 Poll data (Gallup, Global Policy) shows most Iraqis supported the invasion and the US staying until the elections in 2004. It was in 2006 when you mass murdered each other in sectarian violence, blamed Americans, and then pretended you never wanted to be liberated.
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@Ruder6163 The war was all about freedom. Ask the people in Baqubah. Their treatment was so horrible after the insurgency de facto won in cities like that, half the insurgents switched sides and started fighting for us in what was called "The Anbar Awakening."
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@Ruder6163 America has to chose its battles. And Bush pushed for democratic reforms in those countries, just not militarily. Of course the war wasn't just about freedom, but if we didn't care about freedom, we would have simply installed a US-backed strongman in place of Saddam. Instead we let the Iraqis elect their own government, even if it meant Sadrists serving in parliament, Russia using their airspace, and a SOFA that denied us the right to any permanent military bases in 2008.
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Grouping all invasions together is as nihilistic as grouping all rebellions together. Some are good, some are bad.
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@SI-fv7gc A 2004 Gallup poll showed Iraqis believed the invasion was "worth it" by a margin of about 2 to 1. The only crime these soldiers committed was not assuming they knew better than the Iraqis what was best for Iraq.
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@abdullahmoosa4825 "Ordinary citizens joined many different armed groups based on the fact that their country was being invaded and occupied by a foreign force" Which enabled Al Qaeda and the precursors of ISIS to gain a foothold in Iraq. That's why insurgents in 2007 realized the error of their ways and switched sides in what was called The Anbar Awakening, which FINALLY brought to peace to Iraq after its most tumultuous years. This is war, you can't one side without helping the other. Besides, you have no coherent definition of "occupier". The US was there with the permission of an elected government. We were no more occupying Iraq than we are occupying Germany.
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People in their company committed war crimes. Does that make them all guilty?
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