Comments by "milcoll73" (@thurin84) on "Libertarian vs Authoritarianism Debate: A Redux" video.

  1.  @SonoftheAllfather  obviously not. how can 1 collectivist authoritarian system be "diametrically opposed" to another collectivist authoritarian system? thats illogical and makes no sense. ethnic states run by manarchs, while they can be collectivist, are not by nature collectivist. just authoritarian. you are absolutely strawmanning me by referring simply to authoritarianism when i clearly said collectivist authoritarian. i did indeed say that because it is true. both fascism and nazism have their roots in socialism (ie leftist) or are outright socialism (ie national SOCIALISM has it right in their name). i am not wrong. i suggest you look into the political history of both Giovanni Gentile, and benito mussolini. you might actually learn something.
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  2. well, most of what is identified as "far right" is in fact another form of leftist collectivist authoritarianism.
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  3.  @SonoftheAllfather  i see you havent researched into the history of fascism. i didnt say it was. but collectivist authoritarianism is.
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  4.  @SonoftheAllfather  nice strawman btw.
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  5.  @SonoftheAllfather  you just cant help strawmanning can you. you originally said "diametrically opposed". of course theyre opposed idiot. do you not understand what "diametrically" means? and its not ethno separatist vs ethno internationalist. its ethno separatist vs class separatist. ie simply different criteria for classifying opposition groups. "Hierarchical v. egalitarian." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah, but some, it seems, are always more "egalitarian" then others lol. you misspelled "one emphasizes and demonizes by class". both attempt to demonize and destroy what they oppose. and one has been far more successful (socialism/communism) then the other. more strawman. i never said the differences are minor. doesnt preculde both being left wing as both are clearly collectivist authoritarian. "dumb or playing dumb." whole lotta projection in that statement. just sayin. no. pointing out i said collectivist authoritarian when you said i said authoritarian wasnt right wing but left wing is most certainly pointing out your strawman attempt. i never said authoritarianism precluded right wing. i said collectivist authoritarian precluded right wing. if youre too stupid to see the difference, not my problem. it was leftist because it was fascist. yeah, but you said monarchies were collectivist. i was addressing what you said. i never said authoritarianism was exclusive to the left. i said collectivism is. and since collectivism requires authoritarianism ergo, collectivist authoritarianism is leftist. what i implied lol? you mean what youre desperately trying to project on what i said to support your strawman argument lol. more projection. i do not. as in said, projection. yes it is. but it is still socialism. how am i conflating them (other then in your desperate strawman that is). im simply pointing out that both are socialist ergo leftist. "or liars who do so for political expediency (to either insulate themselves from accusations or to demonize their political enemies)." ie leftists trying to foist the sins of fascism/nazism on the right. yes. people who try to claim fascism/nazism are right wing most certainly deserve to be mocked. yes, i think you were unaware mussolini was a member of the socialist party until i directed you to look into it. no. someones politicalk leanings are most certainly not irrelevant when discussing the political parties them formed. unless youre trying to obfuscate them to claim theyre something theyre not. then why do you feel the need to strawman them? asking for a friend.
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  6.  @SonoftheAllfather  i know, truth hurts but youll get used to it, probably. you misspelled "tried to strawman you by conveniently ignoring part of what you said'. nope. you projected what you wanted on it so you could strawman it. ive maintained what ive said all along. fascism and nazism are collectivist authoritarianism which is a leftist ideology. you can pretend i didnt say collectivist all you want. that wont make it go away. indeed. and one forma of collectivist authoritarianism cannot be completely opposite another form of collectivist authoritarianism. just different. in this case racial vs class. sssssooooooooo different lol. yes, that aspect is quite different, but not the collectivist authoritarianism you keep trying to ignore. yes but racial vs class is not all that different. just a matter of a different way of defining the "other". well if one of the systems truly was egalitarian that might be true. but we both know neither is. no i pointed out 2 collectivist authoritarianism systems cant be diametrically opposed. the question was wholly rhetorical. i guess when youve got nothing else you have to resort to ad hominem. thats ok. we both know youve got nothing. you listed multiple ways they were different and then backpedaled on the "diametrically opposed" because, of course, they arent. and i never said the difference were minor. that was all you with yet another strawman. but however theyre different, still collectivist authoritarianism and still leftist. bs. i never said anything of the sort. i said what ive said all along. both collectivist authoritarian ergo both leftist. youre the one desperately trying to strawman words into my mouth. yes collectivism is a leftist ideology. yes, any collectivist government would be leftist no matter how they "chose" their leader. be it hereditary, lottery, or whatever. collectivism is leftist. once again there you go putting words into my mouth. i never said anything about medieval. are you saying all monarchys were medieval? because i know several that would probably be quite offended youre saying theyre medieval lol. i beginning to think this strawmanning thing of yours is compulsive lol. if you say so tide pod eater. ahhh more ad hominin. right on cue lol. well, i dont know about all democrats. but the ones that got angry we took away their slaves and formed the kkk sure were. so are the white supremacist ones that think minorities cant get photo ids, find the DMV, or find polling places. its called the "bigotry of low expectations". gee, you sound as if im supposed to care what you think lol. i mean, i can pretend if itll help you out man lol. more like 2 posts ago lol. well, dyslexia will do that. you seem to comprehend most of my concepts as your attempts to strawman show. you know strawmanning is a form of lying, right?
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  7.  @googleisskynet7312  ok son of all fathers fake emotional support account. whatever you say................
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  8.  @SonoftheAllfather  i see you still have nothing and feel inadequate about it. sorry if my manliness frightens you. really no help for it, maybe try growing a pair.
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  9.  @SonoftheAllfather  careful you dont kick that table over on your foot lol.
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  10.  @googleisskynet7312  ok nazis fake emotional support account. whatever you say lol.
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  11. as are all cats.
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