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Comments by "Sheridan" (@SheridanM-dc1nk) on "Lucy Letby to spend rest of life in prison for murders and attempted murders of babies" video.
Emma Tustin and Savannah Brockhill are apparently popular and doing fine in prison, which really goes against the whole “child k^llers are targeted in prison” thing.
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@IchigoKurosaki011 not with a whole life order you don’t. She will never be released nor eligible for parole. There’s only about 70 people in the entire country with that sentence!
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@johnkitching2248 this is incredibly, incredibly rare though. Women targeting babies is not a normal criminal pattern. Beverly Allitt was a weirdo and outcast her whole life, letby really does make an unlikely criminal
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Guarantee she will spend her days in “protective custody” (solitary confinement) or on some wing for similarly “vulnerable” offenders
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I’m not saying she is innocent but this case is odd, purely circumstantial evidence leading to a whole life order? However her demeanour and clear lack of emotion would suggest there is something deeply wrong with her.
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@woodyforest7308 I’ve seen the notes. Criminologists have said it could be interpreted that way, or it could just be ramblings of a very mixed up woman who was being investigated in relation to such awful offences. Part of the notes said she k^lled them because she “wasn’t good enough to care for them”. Could be that she’s guilty, could be that she just felt guilty. I do think she did it but the case is odd all round.
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@noelward8047 not at all! My comment said there is something deeply wrong with her and that I don’t think she’s innocent. Can you read? It was merely a critical comment on the trial itself.
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@Ardwick-Cromeoh for goodness sake learn to read and think critically. It was a comment about circumstantial evidence, not a comment suggesting someone else did it. I said she isn’t innocent!
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@saltnessmonster this would be the biggest miscarriage of justice of all time if she was innocent. I do find the fact it’s all circumstantial a bit odd. 90% certain she did it though.
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@robertcreighton4635 it’s weird though because there is absolutely nothing to suggest she has a history of that disorder. Beverly Allitt on the contrary was known to have had it her whole life, pretending to be injured or sick, or poisoning family members. Apparently letby went on this spree after returning from a holiday- like something just suddenly snapped in her? Scary
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@Ardwick-Cromeshe does have serious mental issues though, normal people don’t k^ll babies!
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@Ardwick-CromeI agree with you but those notes cannot be taken as a confession at face value. Could just be ramblings of feeling guilty from a woman under intense investigation. But I do think she did it.
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@AuntBee59 she wrote a number or ramblings which could have conveyed guilt or simply feeling guilty that it happened on her watch. She IS guilty, but those notes only become damning with all the other evidence that comes along with it.
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No she won’t. You do not get out when you have a whole life order.
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Meaning? I hope you’re not suggesting that unaliving very much wanted babies after birth is the same as getting a termination of your own volition?
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@paulmuaddib3470 of course a man with absolutely no skin in the game is “pro life”, lol. If men could get pregnant, abortion wouldn’t even be a debate.
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Somebody already will be trying to do that. It won’t happen though. They’d have to find loads of new evidence and likely have to provide some reasonable alternative offender, which they can’t because it was letby
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@Ardwick-Cromewell no it’s not, the reason for the whole life order is the gravity of the offences. If it was one child, for example, it wouldn’t have been a whole life order. There aren’t degrees of guilt but there are degrees of sentencing. I’m also not saying she shouldn’t have a whole life order, she SHOULD. It’s just interesting.
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@Joeblogs999 look at it critically. Could be that they died in her care and she couldn’t handle the guilt. I don’t believe that, I think she’s guilty, but people say and do very odd things under duress. She was under investigation when she wrote those notes.
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@paulmuaddib3470 no, because it’s not a child at the point I just stated. No sentience, not viable outside of the mothers body. Calling it a child is just a deliberate attempt to shame people.
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@paulmuaddib3470 you do realise that up to about 6 weeks it’s just a clump of cells and you simply take 2 pills and it passes as blood, right? You’ve been watching too much Christian propaganda about babies having their necks broken and dragged out crying.
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@robertcreighton4635 I know, harrowing.
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@bubandlisa no I don’t watch too much TV, I have a degree in criminology so I know. There will be constant risk assessments and yes at some point she may be moved to general population. It won’t be any time soon and they’ve already said she’s on unaliving watch.
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It will be. It’s not life with a minimum term, it’s a whole life order. It would take an appeal, retrial and stacks of new defence evidence to overturn this.
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She will likely be kept in so called protective custody and on self unaliving watch
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@paulmuaddib3470 blaming what on men? I’m pointing out that it’s typical of men to be oh so noble and tell women what is and isn’t appropriate regarding their own pregnancy.
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Oh shove off. Sort out your own “community”. Black people in the US make up 13% of the population but commit 52% of m^rders.
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@Ardwick-Cromehow is it irrelevant exactly? That’s how the verdicts were formed, on the nature of the evidence. Mitigating and aggravating.
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Yeah and the gr00ming gangs up north are Asian Muslims. What’s your point?
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@paulmuaddib3470 no I won’t rethink, thanks. I personally believe the cut off point for terminations should be drastically reduced, perhaps even halved to 12 weeks. Not extended to include babies who have already been born, as you’re suggesting! It is SO typical of a man to wade into these issues. So typical, and you should rethink your utterly callous comment.
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@paulmuaddib3470 protecting innocent life, my goodness. It’s a non sentient clump of cells. Most pro lifers are religious, I don’t have to follow your narrative about innocent souls that haven’t even been born.
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@paulmuaddib3470 of course it has a heartbeat otherwise it wouldn’t grow, that isn’t news to me. The issue comes when you value a non sentient clump of cells that is totally unviable, over the bodily autonomy of women and girls. Of course you can make the argument it’s an individual embryo, that isn’t news either. That’s why I advocate for 12 weeks if not even sooner. Like I said, before that point it passes as blood.
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@paulmuaddib3470 you’d also feel different if you were a 16 year old girl about to start GCSEs, finding out she’s pregnant and having some man like you shaming her and telling her this is now to take over her life whether she likes it or not, and if she has a termination she is akin to a child k^ller
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@paulmuaddib3470 I’d say even 8, to be honest. It’s plenty of time to work out you’re pregnant. I think the only thing available should be the pill version, not vacuums and all that- too macabre
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@paulmuaddib3470 yes that is really terrible. I wholly disagree with practices like that.
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@JCJW101 the salt story was apparently not true. Plus attempting suicide doesn’t indicate she is being targeted. Also Brockhill has a girlfriend in there apparently. Neither are in protective custody.
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@janetmullender282 she is disgusting. That poor little boy suffered so much.
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@JCJW101 I did, my comment clearly gone S-banned. I read it in an article. The salt story is also apparently untrue according to Sodexo.
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I’m pro choice but late term abortions are horrific. I had one at 5 weeks and it came out like a heavy period- it was bad enough. Couldn’t imagine a fully formed baby.
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@Ardwick-Cromelike I said, she does have a mental disorder. This is very clear. She may not have been diagnosed as such but that is immaterial. My comment implied munchausens by proxy, and I never said it’s a mitigating factor.
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I’d say it does discourage, but at the same time the sort of person who would do this isn’t of sound mind and a deterrent is pretty meaningless. She will never see the outside of that prison ever again, it’s certainly no luxury. The first few years will be incredibly rough, I bet she takes her own life.
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@nomsTube oh I agree, I’m just saying to call a whole life order “not justice” is untrue. It’s the harshest penalty we have.
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@nomsTube I agree with you but we don’t have that penalty, it’s pretty simple
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