Comments by "TheThirdMan" (@thethirdman225) on "" video.

  1. ⁠ @DropDownBear  There’s a certain amount of discretion involved. Most newsrooms used to have “no bodies’ policy but it didn’t mean no leeway.
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  2. Um... so?
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  3. Pfft. We can’t even get truth in political advertising. There was a saying about Sky News in the UK - “never wrong for long”.
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  4.  @azairvine  Yeah, you tell ‘em, mate. Go on, tell ‘em.
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  5. They showed it.
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  6. I'm wondering if he was downwind when he was trying to pull out? I didn't hear any sensational blaming.
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  7.  @dynevor6327  I used to be a pilot.
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  8.  @dynevor6327  You're exactly right: it's about relative airflow. But if he pulls out of the dive with a following wind, he needs more speed to compensate for the tail wind. Let's say his optimum manoeuvre speed is 80 knots (before anyone tells me I'm wrong, for the purpose of illustration, it doesn't matter) If he pulls out at 80 knots ground speed with a 10 knot tail wind, his airspeed with be 70 knots. If he pulls out into a 10 knot headwind, he will be doing 90 knots airspeed. Low to the ground, in this situation, a tail wind is a problem. Time and an ATSB report will tell. Meantime, I hope he gets well soon.
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  9. @ And what if the moving air mass and the aircraft are both going in the same direction at the same ground speed? There’s a reason why we take off and land into the wind if at all possible.
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  10. @ Good so far.
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  11.  @dynevor6327  From a purely aerodynamic standpoint, IAS is what dictates stall speed and control authority, but that doesn’t mean the aircraft is equally responsive in all phases of the loop. If the aircraft is descending with a strong tailwind component, it may close with the ground faster than expected, and a sudden transition to a lower-wind environment near the surface can lead to an unanticipated lag in response. A looping aircraft gains and loses energy based on true airspeed (TAS) and altitude, not just IAS. If the aircraft had a headwind at the top of the loop and a tailwind at the bottom, its TAS at the bottom might be higher than the pilot anticipated, making the pull-out more difficult. IAS is a useful measurement, but it doesn’t negate the fact that wind gradients, energy state, and control response all play a role in the real-world dynamics of an aircraft, especially in a critical low-altitude manoeuvre like a loop.
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  12.  @dynevor6327  From a purely aerodynamic standpoint, IAS is what dictates stall speed and control authority, but that doesn’t mean the aircraft is equally responsive in all phases of the loop. If the aircraft is descending with a strong tailwind component, it may close with the ground faster than expected, and a sudden transition to a lower-wind environment near the surface can lead to an unanticipated lag in response. A looping aircraft gains and loses energy based on true airspeed (TAS) and altitude, not just IAS. If the aircraft had a headwind at the top of the loop and a tailwind at the bottom, its TAS at the bottom might be higher than the pilot anticipated, making the pull-out more difficult. IAS is a useful measurement, but it doesn’t negate the fact that wind gradients, energy state, and control response all play a role in the real-world dynamics of an aircraft, especially in a critical low-altitude manoeuvre like a loop.
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  13. It's about a certain level of sensitivity. If you show the whole thing you risk phone calls from angry helicopter parents saying, "My children saw that you callous creeps!"
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  14. "Think of the families you effect when you release info like this." News organisations get their information on this kind of stuff from the police (who usually know nothing and say even less), fire brigade and ambulance. I won't tell you how but the days of scanners are long gone. Those institutions are pretty trustworthy. If they say they believe there are two people dead, you take them seriously. Then you report it by saying, "It's believed that two people are dead (or may be dead) after a crash at the Avalon airshow." You might run the vision (which was probably edited for the breaking story*) and then end with, "We will bring you more news as it comes to hand." Nothing wrong with that. The edited vision was probably first run when they didn't know if anyone was dead or alive, which explains why they paused it. That's thinking of the families. That shot gets stuck in the editing stack because they run it for the rest of the day until the flagship bulletin at 6.00 pm. Most journalists work under extreme time pressure and at low pay. Very low pay. Recent independent reports on the major networks show that bullying and intimidation is twice the average rate for any industry and second only to hospitality. Burn out rates are high. I'd say the average tenure for a new journo is about three years. Then they pack it in. They know the stories they write will be slammed for literally anything by people who have never darkened the door of a newsroom. Meanwhile Twitter posters (I refuse to call it X) and other sites like PPRuNe spout unsubstantiated rumours with no sources and little accountability. And they don't care. Posters on PPRuNe yesterday were saying the airshow was cancelled. At the end of the day, I almost can't understand why any journo would care either but they do because they put their name to it for all to see. In other words, journalists are totally accountable for their mistakes. I agree with the second half of your post. I hope he pulls through.
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  15.  @Spacemonkeymojo  That's right: she wasn't there. No media was. That's why they're reduced to phone vision. By the way, live TV is a cruel, cruel master because every reporter knows that there will be scads of people like you who appreciate their efforts and provide so much helpful advice. The story is the pilot.
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  16. Outrageous Batman!
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  17. Oh, the outrage.
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  18. Pfft. They had so clearly just come out of another story that may have been more light-hearted and she was a bit slow to respond. Outrageous! I suppose she shouldn't wear pink either! Disgraceful!
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  19.  @MyGman68  And you think what? That it was deliberate?
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  20. Would anyone but an aviation enthusiast give a rat’s?
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  21.  @-skeptix-  Precisely.
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  22.  @iggi3985  They showed it.
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  23.  @iggi3985  They reported on the pilot. That’s the story.
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  24.  @vbch1396  They may not have known what it was.
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  25. @ No they wouldn't. In major accidents and fatalities there are legal considerations so they stay stum on a lot of it.
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  26. @ The issue is the name. Reporters on the ground might know his name but they generally won’t report it until the police release it. And they don’t do that until the family have been notified.
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  27. I'm sure it's a question some people are asking. Whether they are completely ignorant or not doesn't matter.
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