Comments by "TheThirdMan" (@thethirdman225) on "Vox"
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@i_like_chomp6382
"69% includes guns and accidental shootings to yourself or others. Wealthy places like the Uk, france, and Italy for example have extremely high knife crime and pickpocketing."
Now you're guessing. No. Let's give an example which I can quote off the top of my head without having to look it up.
In 2010 there were 16,256 murders in the United States. 11,078 were committed with guns. 68.15% That's just murders. If you want to include all gun deaths, the number is over 30,000. Look it up at the CDC website. The current gun stats at the CDC are 6.0/100K for all murders and 4.5/100K for gun murders.
As for your claim that the UK, France and Italy have "extremely high knife crime and pickpocketing", I'm going to ask for a reference for that claim. And don't bother linking to some gun-humper page. Extremely high in relation to where? Show me the rates. You know, numbers per 100,000 people, as I showed you before.
"Also Texas may have the highest rate of "gun" violence but its extremely well off compared to so many other states when it comes to general crime and thats the stat that matters not yours."
Jesus. We're talking about gun crime. Texas has the highest rate of gun crime in the United States, which makes a complete mockery of your earlier claim that crime was low there because of "good guys with guns".
The stats that matter are the ones that come from credible bodies that collect them, like the CDC. You haven't provided any stats, much less any backup, so you're in no position to says whose stats matter.
Mine matter because I got them from a credible and relevant authority, not from gossip on the interwebs. When you can find an institution like the CDC that proves your claim I might start taking you seriously.
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+Izno Iznogoud
"Actually, F-22 was initially created as multirole as F/A-22 but soon was limited to air superiority due to sky-rocketing costs"
No. The F-22 came from the ATF proposal which was originally conceived around a Cold War mission scenario where the US would be attacked by Soviet bomber and attack jets like the Su-24. After the Cold War ended the mission basically no longer existed but the USAF pushed ahead with the plan, despite the questions from government budgetary circles about the need for it. The F/A-22 and the tailless FB-22 were proposals by Lockheed-Martin to build at least the same total of air frames, which was originally to have been around 750. The F/A-22 and FB-22 were both cancelled and the number of air frames was continually reduced until it stopped at 187. It was this reduction which pushed up the air frame costs on a unit basis because the R&D costs were no longer being spread across a large fleet.
"BTW, F-22 isn't even great at dogfight : it had its butt kicked by Rafale first, the T-38 Talon, Typhoon, Mirage-2000, F-16 and I'm ready to bet Flanker also beats it in dogfight since Indian Su-30MKI had serious edge over Typhoons, F-15 and F-16..."
Source? I know there were some German pilots who engaged it in their Typhoons a few years ago but they said afterwards that none of them expected to get that close in the first place. It depends entirely on who controls the electronic spectrum.
"As nowadays, everybody knows how to defeat US' 1st gen passive stealth, well, if US still can maintain air superiority, it's only by swarming effect, but surely not on technology..."
What is "swarming effect"? Air forces don't operate that way due to the possibility of fratricide and targets are usually designated by C3 types before they are in range anyway. Technology probably wouldn't be a factor as long as the C3 types remain on station.
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+Jacob Damocles
"Su-57 is a 4++ with RAM slapped on. It's using shittier engines, shittier ram, shittier avionics, and is designed for WVR, which is quickly losing relevance."
The whole "Fifth Gen" thing is really unclear. In fact, it seems to apply only to American aircraft. It has stealth, it has networking and it has sensor fusion. 90% of stealth is in the shaping. From the views I have seen, I don't think the Su-57 has any RAM coatings at all. I wouldn't say it was designed for WVR any more than any other but given the missile types it is designed to carry, BVR seems to be its primary mission.
"They're also only buying about 12 from now until 2027, when they might put them on the budget."
This is all unclear at the moment. Last report I heard was LRIP to a total of about 60. The first 20 will have the older engine. After that production will depend on the availability of the next generation engine. The problem is that the program is well behind schedule. This same situation plagued initial Flanker production when their radars were not ready and dozens of them sat idle, waiting for their radars to be fitted.
"China's are a bit better, but Chinese engines are garbage."
The Chinese have real problems with their engines. None of their new engines have survived very long. They're a hell of a long way from first flight. But one thing the Chinese are not short of is engineers and in time, I believe they will solve it. Their problem is how long it will take. They actually know how to build an engine. They were quite successful with the Rolls Royce Spey and the Lyulka AL-31F but they can't seem to get their own designs to work.
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+Jacob Damocles
"ROFAR seems interesting, but I'm not sure it'll be as useful as an AESA radar, because it's different enough all the neat tricks you can do with an AESA aren't going to be available, such as active jamming on ground radars, and I'm not sure about how fast it'll be able to scan at this point."
I'm not sure myself but it's an important development. Not only should it be able to detect stealth aircraft at BVR ranges, the fact that it uses laser beams should make it pretty much undetectable with current sensors. That's not to say that a warning system won't be developed but it definitely has the potential to close the capability gap. That's it as I understand it (which is not to say that I know much about it). They are different systems, designed to do much the same thing but in a very different way.
The biggest advantage of AESA is the scan rate. With no moving parts and beam steering capability, it can home in very quickly on a target and with a much higher scan rate than passive systems, can get a good picture very quickly. I don't know how this will be accomplished with ROFAR. The point is that if it increases the radar capability without changing the pilot's operating procedures, it will be well worth the effort.
Is it a game changer? Probably not but the Russians expect to have it in service in 2022. It's about half the weight of current systems - Russian radars are notoriously heavy and run very hot - and should be more efficient. As long as it's reliable, there's no reason not to go for it. And it's only a matter of time before the lessons learnt from the radar find their way into other programs, like missile seeker heads.
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+TheReal Lifehacks By the way, you should pay special attention to the article by Col Jon Wilkinson. He knows shitloads more about the game than you do with your pathetic ramblings about software versions. Here's his bio:
"Col Jon C. Wilkinson, USAF
Colonel Wilkinson (BS, Utah State University; MS, Troy State University; Master of Stra- tegic Studies, US Army War College) is a faculty instructor and director of theater air operations at the US Army War College. He is responsible for instructing theater strategy and campaigning, as well as the Joint War Fighting Advanced Studies Program. The colonel’s most recent operational assignment was in 2014–15 as the 455th Expeditionary Operations Group commander at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, where he commanded more than 1,100 military and civilian personnel, executing A-10, F-16, MC-12, HH-60, EC-130, C-130J, and airfield management combat operations. A command pilot with more than 3,600 flying hours in the F-16, KC-135, C-130, C-27, and HH-60, Colonel Wilkinson conducted flying operations in Central and South America, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He previously served as the C-27 and C-130 current operations airlift coordinator, F-16 director of operations, operations support squadron commander, Seventh Air Force A3/A5 deputy director, and the US Pacific Command J54 Northeast Asia strategic plans branch chief."
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@troubledcat
"Yes, Australia where people were detained in concentration camps "
Really? Where? Oh and by the way, the US has FEMA camps too.
And it's a bit of a stretch linking that with gun laws.
"New Zealand where a country goes into full lockdown over a case of Winnie-The-Flu."
Haha! See, the trouble with that is that I have to believe not one but two conspiracies, which is asking rather a lot.
"All the places you mentioned, aside from Japan, have massive issues when it comes to authoritarianism because they opposes people's rights to freedom, liberty, etc over nonsensical reasons."
You can't prove any of that, much less that it's related to gun ownership. Excessively generalised claims like that are really difficult to argue rationally so if you're expecting me to counter it, don't bother.
"Also, I'm from South Africa and we have gun control here that leads to applicants waiting months to a year, yet we have 67 murders daily. I even know of someone that took their son out to a restaurant for his birthday. As they were leaving a shootout brokeout as criminals decided to rob the place and if it wasn't for a armed citizen being at the restaurant things would've been worse."
Sounds like yet another spectacular leap of faith. One of my ex-girlfriends was South African and she kept a gun under her pillow when she lived in Jo'burg. But take Oscar Pistorius as an example. Rich White guy gets sentenced to just five years for the (gun) murder of Reeva Steenkamp. After a year, he was released to serve his sentence at home. On appeal, his sentenced was further increased to six years and then 15 years. I'd say you've got a lot more problems than guns and gun control.
"Ultimately, you want to deny people their freedoms because rather than treating the cause of the mass shootings you want to tackle the symptom."
Life is a freedom that greatly exceeds the presumed freedom to wave guns around.
"And that's a waste of time and effort that I really can't afford to entertain."
Hasn't stopped you running some elaborate and generalised conspiracies and expecting me to take them as some sort of evidence to support gun ownership.
"Another thing, governments being overthrown by armed gangs tend to happen in countries with high gun control and high crime, so it would seem your position on the matter creates the problems I supposedly haven't thought about."
For example?
You're really trying it on, aren't you? There's no connection between gun control and armed gangs overthrowing governments. If it was ever true then it happens in countries where the rule of law is marginal and corruption is high. Unless you can make a case that this applies in places like the United States - which is what this is about, regardless - then you're making yet another gigantic leap of faith.
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@infantjones Gun murders in Australia declined at a greater rate than did murder by other methods. The total murder rate declined by 45% over 20 years, while the gun murder rate declined by more than 65% over the same time.
Australia is not a gun culture and never has been.
But any criticism from the American gun lobby has to be taken with a major dose of salt. The Australian murder rate is currently 1.13 per 100,000 (up from the more normal 0.9) while yours is a whopping 7.5 and your gun murder rate is a staggering 5.9 per 100,000.
In 2010 there were 16,256 murders in the United States, with 11,078 by gun. In 2020 there were 24,576 people murdered, with 19,384 by gun.
A brief calculation shows that the difference between the gun murder figures is 8,306 while the difference in murder by other methods is just 14.
That catastrophic rise is 100% driven by guns. Liberalisation of concealed carry, open carry and ‘stand your ground’ laws, not to mention the hysterical language used by the gun lobby are totally to blame for this.
So I won’t be taking dictation on how to run social policy from American gun owners, thanks.
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@Albinowolf64
"We won in the Korean War, where the objective was to preserve the independence of South Korea."
The Korean War ended in a stalemate. In fact, it never ended and is currently under ceasefire.
"We won in the Gulf War, where the objective was to liberate Kuwait."
That looked like a win but it was, in fact, a catastrophic loss. The 6 week campaign of 1991 did nothing more than destabilise the region which resulted in a reduction in US influence in the area. The problem with that was that it has cost America far more than anyone budgeted for and for no result.
"We won in the intervention against Serbia in the late 90's and early 2000's, we still have troops stationed in Kosovo for protection."
That is not a win, for the same reason Korea was not a win. The fact that you still have troops stationed there should tell you that.
America's problem is that it knows how to fight large scale wars against early delineated enemies but has no idea how to tackle insurgencies. That is not a fighting problem. It's a vision problem. and America can never articulate what peace should look like. Defeating your enemy is only the first step. So often I hear "America has the most powerful "military" in history. Period." as if that is the only thing that matters. Every strategic argument comes down to "the You Ess Militerry" without any consideration for what is in it for everyone else. You always lose the peace. That is why little Afghanistan is the only country in the world to have defeated not one but two superpowers. One was there for nine years, the other for 17.
Unfortunately, this means we will be back exactly where we were 17 years ago: a repugnant government (the Taliban) and a hostile state in that region.
The other problem is, of course, that the United States always assumes that everyone wants what America wants: freedom, capitalism and democracy. The fact is that in tribal, theocratic states like Afghanistan, most people couldn't give a fig for those things. They care about family, tribe, religion and state in that order, with state a very distant fourth. The American sponsored government in Kabul will be gone by this time next year.
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@baronbrummbar8691
”murder but not kills in the us 5 times as many people get killed by knives then guns”
With no punctuation and presuming you meant “than”, rather than “then”, I’ll try.
Wrong. In 2018, there were 24,576 murders in the United States, with 19,384 of them by gun (CDC figures). That means 79% of murders in the United States were committed with guns. Your murder rate is 7.4 per 100,000 and your gun murder rate is 5.9 per 100,000. In 2010 there were 16,276 murders and 11,076 were by gun. Back then the percentage was still 69%. Your murder rate was 4.8 per 100,000 and your gun murder rate was 2.83 per 100,000. That was 69%.
So in the space of just eight years, your total murder rate has gone up by 50% but your gun murder rate has gone up by about 80%. So gun murders are not only much higher than any other form, they also drive the total murder rate. That’s what getting rid of gun laws has brought you.
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