Comments by "TheThirdMan" (@thethirdman225) on "" video.
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@DemoNinja79 You have to understand Network Centric Warfare. I wish more people did. ALL modern fighters, especially stealthy ones, need NWC backup. All are networked and are designed to be operated that way.
There were several things which defined the conflict between Pakistan and India. The J-10C was simply a weapons delivery platform - a competent one - for the equally-competent PL-15E missile.
But to treat that as a 1 V 1 against a Rafale, a Gripen or a Typhoon would be to ignore the way modern air warfare is fought. Briefly, the Pakistanis were supported by a small but competent SAAB "Erieye" AEW&C platform that meant that the J-10C pilots had no need to swwitch on their own radar. Their missiles were fired according to C3 instructions from the Erieye and they were given mid course guidance until their radars locked onto their targets.
This is not a new thing. Anyone who really wants to know something about this - and if you want to actually know what you're talking about, you should definitely read it - look for "The Beka'a Valley Air Battle, June, 1982: Lessons Mislearned?", by CIC Lt Col Matthew Hurley USAFA. It's easy to find and won't take you much more than an hour to read. This is the model of warfighting that has ensured that - for the most part - Western fighters have long held an edge on anything they came up against. Controversially, it's also the main reason why, for example, F-15 fans can claim that it has a combat record of 104-0. While it's probably not too far from the truth, it's worth remembering that the F-15 has almost always found itself in a situation where it was properly supported by C3 and tactical jammers. This makes scoring relatively easy.
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@92HazelMocha
" Right? They were able to break into the most protected network in the world, saw the plans for an aircraft, found the flaws in said plans then proceeded to make a superior aircraft. The whole thing is actually super impressive."
I suppose it would be if it were true. The incident everyone refers to is the notorious QinetiQ hack from 2007-2010, in which highly secret information about the F-35 was compromised. Just what was compromised has never been completely revealed but since QinetiQ were just one contractor out of literally hundreds, it would be highly unlikely that the hackers could ever have stolen a complete set of plans or specifications. Furthermore, the QinetiQ hack was a classic example of a smug contractor simply not doing enough to protect secret information. The stupidity of American contractors in this case is hard to fathom, especially when they were warned several times that this was a possibility.
There have been other relatively high profile examples of this but the QinetiQ hack remains the most famous and most hijacked by stupid people on the internet who copy everything they hear and repeat it, while simultaneously doing the very thing they accuse the Chinese of: copying. Superficial similarities are just that: superficial They don't confer the same performance on every type. When McDonnell engineers developed the F-15, they found that a few minor adjustments to the nose profile, including a barely-perceptible 1.5° nose down angle had a dramatic impact on drag. So superficial similarities don't indicate anything, other than a similar mission or performance envelope.
You cannot build an aircraft from a bunch of emails. Yet THAT is exactly what you idiots believe and expect everyone else to do the same thing. Furthermore, it's highly likely that US contractors changed things to cover up for their mistakes.
What the Chinese got out of this mostly related to the design of the diverterless intakes. Yet from this you infer that they were in full possession of absolutely every piece of information about the F-35. If that was the case then why didn't they just build an F-35?
Pretty much everything China has done since then has been self-developed, from engines to microchips to Rayleigh scattering. What is more is that more than 40% of Chinese graduates today are STEM, compared with the American figure of 20% and falling. The idea that a whole population was incapable of original thought is just racist stupidity, confirmed in an ignorant, uneducated, nationalist echo chamber. America - in fact, most of the West - made the same assumptions about the Japanese and it earned them a black eye in WWII.
In short, none of you has any idea how China works and none of you is interested or engaged enough to attempt to find out. You don't have a to be a member of the CPC or a communist and you don't have to be a fan of Xi Jinping. I'm not. You don't even have to visit China to find this stuff out. You just have to know what delusional nonsense look like when you see it.
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@Jakery1057
"Copied even to the point that the canopy opens from back to front because they copied the marine f35 variant with the vertical lift fan. They literally copied it exact. They were clueless in understanding why American engineers did the canopy that way so just copied it.."
They didn't copy the lift fan. This jet doesn't have one.
The incident everyone bases this rubbish on is the notorious QinetiQ hack from 2007-2010, in which highly secret information about the F-35 was compromised. Just what was compromised has never been completely revealed but since QinetiQ were just one contractor out of literally hundreds, it would be highly unlikely that the hackers could ever have stolen a complete set of plans or specifications. Furthermore, the QinetiQ hack was a classic example of a smug contractor simply not doing enough to protect secret information. The stupidity of American contractors in this case is hard to fathom, especially when they were warned several times that this was a possibility.
There have been other relatively high profile examples of this but the QinetiQ hack remains the most famous and most hijacked by stupid people on the internet who copy everything they hear and repeat it, while simultaneously doing the very thing they accuse the Chinese of: copying. Superficial similarities are just that: superficial They don't confer the same performance on every type. When McDonnell engineers developed the F-15, they found that a few minor adjustments to the nose profile, including a barely-perceptible 1.5° nose down angle had a dramatic impact on drag. So superficial similarities don't indicate anything, other than a similar mission or performance envelope.
You cannot build an aircraft from a bunch of emails. Yet THAT is exactly what you idiots believe and expect everyone else to do the same thing. Furthermore, it's highly likely that US contractors changed things to cover up for their mistakes.
What the Chinese got out of this mostly related to the design of the diverterless intakes. Yet from this you infer that they were in full possession of absolutely every piece of information about the F-35. If that was the case then why didn't they just build an F-35?
Pretty much everything China has done since then has been self-developed, from engines to microchips to Rayleigh scattering. What is more is that more than 40% of Chinese graduates today are STEM, compared with the American figure of 20% and falling. The idea that a whole population was incapable of original thought is just racist stupidity, confirmed in an ignorant, uneducated, nationalist echo chamber. America - in fact, most of the West - made the same assumptions about the Japanese and it earned them a black eye in WWII.
In short, none of you has any idea how China works and none of you is interested or engaged enough to attempt to find out. You don't have a to be a member of the CPC or a communist and you don't have to be a fan of Xi Jinping. I'm not. You don't even have to visit China to find this stuff out. You just have to know what delusional nonsense look like when you see it.
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