Comments by "TheThirdMan" (@thethirdman225) on "" video.

Scott, what do you think about the damage being done to high value astronomical research projects by Starlink satellites?
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Joan Sparky Do you know how radio telescopes work? They work on capture area, which is something that this could simply not provide. Secondly, unless Musk is prepared to do this for nothing - including paying for the satellites themselves and refunding the losses to taxpayers from the damage done - glib comments are just a waste of space. This is rendering billions of dollars worth of high value research and equipment useless.
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Joan Sparky http://scienceglobalnews.com/space/that-starlink-problem-astronomers-were-worried-about-is-totally-happening/ https://youtu.be/bKj4GDNhH0Q https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3864/1
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@jesusmora9379 "astronomy is useless, it's just a bunch of pretty images and some inconclusive theory here and there, like dark matter or the shape of the universe" All sciences benefit from astronomy. In any case, that's no defence. Only one truly ignorant of science could believe such a thing. Satellites? There are only a handful of the operating. We have yet to even launch the JWST. SpaceX/Musk fans have heard this nonsense from Rocket Jesus and are just repeating it without having any idea what the issues are. "there have been more science done by satellites, working and malfunctioning, than by ground telescopes." Please provide examples. Like as SpaceX/Musk fans you are assuming that everything is optical. You have no idea what you're talking about. It would be in your interest to read the links posted - except that I know you won't. Telescopes monitor all elements of the spectrum from infra red to x-rays and beyond. "The sat's use particular frequencies (not the hole spectrum + are DIRECTED) and will have orbital data, so their interference can be removed or won't be there at all." That is not merely a distortion, it is wrong, based on a myriad of false assumptions: https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3702/1 "All not easy or convenient, but hardly the end of the world." How are we going to do wide field astronomy? How are we going to monitor rogue asteroids? How are we going to research dark matter? The shitty electronic design and manufacture of Starlink satellites means that radio telescopes, which must operate in a quiet electronic environment - as quiet as possible, anyway - will be bombarded with electronic noise. Even mobile phones are not allowed in those places. It's like trying to find stars in the sky over New York city with all the lights on, in the middle of a fireworks display. And you think it's a simple matter of knowing their orbits? All -12,000- 42,000 of them? "What do you want to say or do once the Chinese, Indians or Europeans do it?" I'd say exactly the same thing but for the moment, they are not doing it. There are agreements already in place which are supposed to regulate these things and Musk is flouting them by bombarding the relevant authorities with application after application. And while he ties everyone up in red tape, he's flouting those agreements. That is something for which your own government is liable. "The ship has sailed." And what are you going to do about it? Space belongs to everyone, not just megalomaniac billionaires and their Kool Aid-drinking fluffers. What are you going to do about the billions - nay trillions - of dollars worth of equipment which Musk is now reducing to junk? You tell me why Musk shouldn't be required to pay compensation to the owners and principal beneficiaries of what comes out of these things - taxpayers. So far, the only thing Musk has said on the subject is that astronomy needs to get off the Earth. How would you like it if someone wanted to bulldoze your house to put a private tollway in the name of "humanity"? Especially when you had done more for humanity than the person building it...
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@joansparky4439 "Get used to the new (old) status quo of having to move your telescopes AWAY from urbanized areas.." Are you listening? Did you read anything of what I posted? Much of it centres around the Atacama Large Millimetre Array in the Chilean desert!! Hardly urban. Do you think it's clever to be so flippant about things you don't understand? "If you take the volume/weight of 3-4 starlink sats you can put a proper telescope up there for the shorter wavelengths." Well, when Musk builds one and puts it up, we can talk about it. When he builds one with the capability of the Very Large Array - highly unlikely - and launches it at zero cost to the taxpayers of the many countries involved, I'll believe he's serious. "The point is, you get above most of the atmosphere, so better signals and build them cheaply in mass." Do you have any idea what this costs or are you just repeating what Rocket Jesus told you? The cost of putting something as capable as the Very Large Array would be absolutely prohibitive. Why don't you read about the JWST and find out what it is actually supposed to do before saying such silly things? "So get going and don't bicker around, as this won't solve your problem." You can kiss my arse. I wasn't even soliciting your opinion in the first place. "Urbanization is moving on, if you like it or not. Protesting will NOT hold it up." Nothing to do with urbanisation. Since Musk and his legions of useful idiots are responsible for the damage done, then he - and you - can pay for the replacements, just like you would if you deliberately destroyed any other piece of public property. These flippant remarks totally ignore the benefit to mankind - some of which SpaceX is now enjoying - gained from astronomy. This flippant nonsense is putting high-value/high-cost research projects at serious risk. Musk should be obliged to pay any and all compensation and clean up the mess he created.
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