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  1. +Military History Visualized In his book "Armored Champion: The Top Tanks of WWII", Steve Zaloga puts up some interesting data on this which also goes into the ranges at which tanks were most likely to be destroyed by gunfire. Inevitably people draw the wrong conclusions about this and start arguing over armour/range/penetration data. That has its place but the ranges at which these vehicles were destroyed were usually well within the theoretical radius of capability. One of his charts shows that only 0.5% of Soviet tanks were destroyed at ranges of 2,000 metres, making that a statistically insignificant part of the total. Indeed, it seems that the best range for the 75 mm was 400-600 metres and the best for the 88 mm was 600-800 metres. Rumours of Tigers destroying tanks at three kilometres need to be taken very much with a grain of salt. Zaloga also points out that at 500 metres, it took an average of five shells to knock out an enemy tank. At longer ranges up to two kilometres, the average could exceed forty rounds. So the important conclusion is that the success of an attack depended not the power of the gun but the methods employed by tank and anti-tank crews. It implies a high level of artillery discipline and not just a big gun. Probably also worth pointing out that tank warfare was almost never like the Gunfight at the OK Corral. It was usually made as lop-sided as possible. Highly concentrated tank forces going in or carefully planned and constructed ambushes. They weren't playing by Queensberry Rules.
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  7.  @MilitaryHistoryVisualized  Without experience of the MG-34 or -42, I couldn't make a meaningful comparison. From a personal perspective of the Bren, it was very well made and engineered and gave an excellent impression of sturdiness, reliability and, I suppose, a belief that it would be accurate. My experience on the range was that there was little point in firing more than three to five round bursts, which is what I was trained to do, because after that many rounds, the target usually became obscured by smoke (not much) and atmospheric disturbances anyway. For this reason I find the claims of "1,200 rounds per minute!" pretty pointless. On top of which, that's an awful lot of ammunition you have to carry to no great end. The other effect of such a high rate of fire is that it significantly shortens barrel life and time between changes. I found things like stripping and cleaning to be extremely easy and I could strip it in about 20 seconds. "Piston, barrel, butt, body, bipod!" Magazine changes were extremely easy because all that was required was to hit the catch with the base of your right hand and grab the magazine at the same time, so that it came off in one easy motion. Replacing it was almost as simple and if you got it right, it went on with a satisfying click. It was speedy and didn't - so we were told - expose the gunner to enemy fire. The magazine was supposed to hold 30 rounds but in practice this was reduced to 27 to prevent jams. I suppose everybody knows this. The charging lever could be folded but it was easy to use and within easy reach. The gas operation was very simple but I can't remember much about it or any of the "Immediate Actions" in the event of stoppages. It was the first weapon I ever used with aperture sights, which I found less intuitive than the U-notch and blade of my .303 service rifle (this was school cadets in the 1970s, though we were trained by army gunnery sergeants). By the time I used it, the Bren's reputation was extremely well-known and even I knew about it. Perhaps, as far as we Aussies were concerned, its most important contribution was in the jungles of New Guinea on the Kokoda Track and the Battle of Lae where it established a pretty formidable name. As you know, I'm not really interested in the minutiae of weapons; only their contribution. If I could offer one opinion on the Bren it is that its role was more clearly and better defined than either of the two German weapons. Sure, they were all LMGs and they all performed that role extremely effectively, as far as I can tell. In WWII, there seem to have been very few bad LMGs. The Japanese Nambu, the Italian Breda and the Soviet DPM all seem to have been very good. But the only force that possessed a decent medium machine gun in any significant numbers was the British and Commonwealth forces, who used the Vickers for sustained indirect fire. The best example I can think of for this was the lead up to the British and Commonwealth attack on the Italian forces at Nebeiwa in December 1940, when dozens of Vickers guns poured thousands of rounds into the Italian camp throughout the night at a range of about 4 kilometres, which made sure that 1) the Italians could not move around the camp effectively, 2) that they got very little sleep and 3) that they knew an attack was imminent. The Bren was never called upon to perform these duties and I very much doubt any of those other weapons could have sustained that kind of fire all night as the Vickers did (at about 300 rpm). I believe the gunners were from 11th Indian Brigade 4th Bn, 7 th Rajput Rifles under Maj Gen Noel Beresford-Pierce. The British and Commonwealth forces organised their units along those lines and had dedicated Vickers crews for just this purpose. The Bren was simply a squad LMG. I have little or no attachment to guns of any kind so what you're getting here is the first hand impressions of a teenage boy who had no romantic illusions about the Bren. But since it was the only machine gun I have ever used in my life, it left a singular impression on me. Hope this helps.
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