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What people like Kate never seem to understand is that there is more to a nation's prosperity than GDP (or even worse, than global GDP). If you shut down the British car industry, everyone in Dagenham ends up on welfare, but cars imported from Japan are 20% less expensive, is that really a better economy? This is the view that free trade zealots take. "oh, those workers will all just retrain into a profession more in line with Britain's comparative advantage" they say, but that isn't really true, is it?
It also ignores non economic factors like national security, in a world war, most of Britain's modern GDP would go up in smoke overnight "muh accounting, muh legal services, muh international finance, muh arts and culture, muh shopping", whereas a country like Russia, who on paper has a smaller economy than ours, in reality has a vastly larger real economic production, churning out fuel and energy resources to power their economy, primary resources like wood and steel and fertilizer to run agriculture and construction, military equipment to defend itself with etc, and huge surpluses of these things that it can trade with other nations. All things that become vastly more valuable in a situation of global conflict. Russia has survived an all out Western economic blockade vastly better than predicted, whereas if Britain were subjected to the same thing, our economy would collapse practically overnight.
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This guy only thinks about money. I like my country, my culture and my people. I don't want to be a "global citizen". I don't care whether the immigrants that turn it into an outpost of a foreign land have money or not.
Look at somewhere like Vancouver, there are plenty of nice, clean prosperous neighbourhoods in its suburbs. But in many you won't find a single person from the ethnic group that built those beautiful houses, that city, that country anymore, they're 100% Chinese or Indian now.
It doesn't matter how much money those immigrants have, once the founding populations were made to feel like foreigners in their own homes, they left.
I want bitcoin to make the developing world prosperous enough that these people don't want to emigrate to the West any more. Very few of them come because they respect our cultures or peoples or histories, they come for economic reasons. If their own nations were prosperous, immigration would fall by 99%.
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@ThisisnotTwitter he didn't murder anyone, that's he was found not guilty. Or do leftists not accepting verdicts when they don't like up with their ideology?
And you're repeating the same lies and distortions.
-He lived ten minutes away, worked in the town, and his entire family lived there, so what do "state lines" have to do with anything? Do leftists suddenly believe in borders lol?
-His mother did not encourage him to do anything, so that's a lie too.
-It wasn't an assault rifle, assault rifles have been heavily regulated and virtually illegal for decades, it was a normal semi automatic rifle of the most common variety used for decades across America by millions of ordinary people.
Amazing how you can portray a bunch of leftist thugs all of which were convicted felons, including a child rapist, chasing and attacking a 17 year old boy, as somehow being his victims because he exercised his constitutional right to armed self defence as "murder".
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First problem is basic economic management and honesty. And it's not a left or right issue, it's a matter of integrity and long term thinking. We need to stop running deficits, if the Tories want lower taxes, they need to be honest and lower government spending until there's no deficit, if Labour want high government spending, they need to be honest and raise taxes until there's no more deficit etc.
Similarly they need to stop lying with statistics, increasing GDP by importing a million immigrants a year isn't making people richer, but the government tricks people into thinking "the economy increase in size by 2.5% is the same as "we made you 2.5% better off. No, government should actually be required to tell people about GDP per capita or median GDP per capita, which proves that people aren't really better off at all, and would force the government to stop focusing on "make GDP go up" and instead focus on making Britain more efficient and productive.
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@smillner771 Actually there are. The areas Russia took, the Crimea and the Donbass, overwhelmingly back being with Russia versus Ukraine.
And liberal ideologues don't seem to understand that there are nuances to issues. Is it "justified"? By what measure? To what degree? The examples you used show that you instinctively understand that yes it is to some extent justified, because the examples you use are ones where there are shared bonds of history, culture and ancestry that do provide some level of justification. Everyone knows that it would be more outrageous of China to invade Australia or Japan than to invade Taiwan, because it doesn't have those bonds with them.
And in any case, the point is that they are much more justified than the neoliberal globalist world police are. Because let's be clear here, Ukraine is currently under American political occupation, as it has been since Joe Biden was sent there as "point man" to basically run the country after the "revolution" (totally not a Western backed coup, just a coincidence that the first thing they did after their revolution was to call the US State Department to ask it to take charge of their country for them).
The people who run America have spent the last 30 years savaging countries they have zero historical connection to, half way across the world from them, on made up pretexts, to assert total global hegemony. Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. (and they tried Syria and wanted Iran too). The don't get to lecture the rest of the world about "sovereignty" lol.
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The fact is, our military contribution, despite being bigger than other countries, was fairly pathetic. We were repeatedly humiliated, first in Iraq, where we bragged about what a superior job we were doing in Basra compared to the Americans in Baghdad, with no Iraqi resistance or insurgency, until the Americans realized that the reason there were no attacks against British troops, is that the Iraqis had realized we were completely useless and took control of the city under our noses, waving at our soldiers as their troops went around the city murdering their opponents and sieizing control. Then the US Marines had to go in while we hid in our bases and basically conquer the city all over again. The same thing happened in Helmand province, where the US conquered it, put us in charge of the occupation, then eventually realized we'd let the Taliban take over again and had to reconquer it all over again.
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Everything you say is a total lie. Russia is currently obliterating the majority of Ukrain'es armed forces, as was its goal from the start. The stuff about indiscriminate slaughter and Grozny is nonsense, sources at the DIA (a lot more qualified than some raving nutjob like you) have publicly called out such lies.
And pariah state lol, again, you realize outside of the West, no one cares about this don't you? The Saudis won't even return Biden's calls, the Indians have told British diplomats to take a running jump, the Pakistani Prime Minister literally went for a visit in Moscow a couple of weeks back, the Chinese are calling out Western hypocrisy, Brazil and South Africa are refusing to cut Russia off. People like you think anyone the Western liberal elite doesn't like is a "pariah state", but the West doesn't get to decide that any more, that's the reason for this hysterical reaction being ginned up from people like you.
And tell me, you must be a committed anti-war activist right, not just some deranged media programmed lemming? So you must have been railing against what the Saudis have been doing in Yemen for the last five years, right?
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These comments are a real insight into the sort of people who support Ukraine. I understand saying it's good that they were shot down, cheering on the actions of the Ukrainian soliders etc, but people saying how nice it makes them feel that those Russian soldiers were killed, laughing at them etc are utter pondscum. You realize soldiers have fought wars for centuries, been on the battlefield, seen their friends killed horribly, and still treated their enemies with basic decency right?
You're the sort of people who would torture and murder POWs, totally without honour or decency. Just know that any real soldier would despise you.
(and don't bother with your lies about how Russians are uniquely evil or something, because that's just propaganda, every international neutral observer's statistics show that this war is being conducted in line with all the normal standards of war, Russia has dropped less munitions in a month than America did on the first day of the Iraq war)
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Yeah this is the point. I've seen people questioning why the Russians have a relatively small force in Ukraine, but they don't understand that having 1,000,000 badly trained, badly equipped, badly supported, badly supplied and badly led men is a massive liability compared to 200,000 well trained, well equipped, well supplied well led soldiers. And that the 200,000 men will easily defeat the 1,000,000 in detail.
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"Will Putin surrender" this is the trouble when neoliberal/neocon globalists imbibe too much of their own propaganda. Totally out of touch with reality.
Russia is taking Ukraine to pieces, and the West isn't going to be able to stop it.
This pathetic attempt to maintain Western hegemony by provoking Russia into war and "showing the world who's boss" has utterly failed. The all out financial war has failed, Russia is predicted to grow faster than the UK next year, instead we've deindustrialized Europe. The kinetic war has failed, Russia has absorbed all the wonder weapons the West has provided and is pushing forward. The diplomatic war has failed, the rising world, China, Iran, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc have all openly defied Western sanctions and ridiculed our moral posturing.
Edit: just a stupid title, actually the conversation was one of the first in Western media that is acknowledging the reality of how the war is going.
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I agree with your substantive point that they don't do anything for young people, however how is stuff like "LGBTQ rights" and "judicial reform" a "young people" issue, except for the fact that young people have been brainwashed about it?
But yes, Republicans should be addressing actual young people issues, from a conservative perspective, for example "student loan reform" proposed by Democrats is a joke, people get free government loans for useless college degrees, paid for by the working class, and then the taxpayer just has to take a loss of hundreds of billions of dollars? No.
A conservative approach to student loan reform would be to reinstate bankruptcy laws to include all debt (so that if they genuinely can't pay, people can discharge their student loan debt that way), and then require colleges to be guarantors for all student loans, so that if they encourage a student that they know will probably never be able to pay back their loan to attend college, they know they will have to pick up the tab.
Another conservative approach for example would be to offer business loans to young people who don't want to go to college in the first place. Basically address issues that matter to young people, not by adopting leftist policies for young people, but by bothering to create for them.
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Similar process plays out everywhere, this is just a more extreme example. Cities have various productive capabiltiies that make them worth having (art, culture, technology) but they are effectively "powered" by people, and are not self sustaining, they "use up" not just surrounding natural resources, but surrounding human resources. Capital cities use up even more, and even suck people and resources away from other cities.
In traditional societies (Britain 300 years ago, Japan 400 years ago, China 1000 years ago etc), cities were important, but the vast majority of the population lived rurally. This worked because excess rural population (just like excess rural food production) could move to the cities.
The trouble is that now in developed countries, the vast majority of the population lives in cities, meaning they "use up" a huge number of people that need to be replenished, but now that only a small number of people live rurally, they are effectively sucking rural areas dry so that the rural areas are no longer self sustaining either (everyone knows about the general trend of young people moving to cities and leaving rural communities empty, whether it be Italy or Japan or South Korea)
The West "solves" this by turning the "suck in people from rural areas to cities" to "suck in people from developing countries to developed countries vi massive immigration", however this solution creates its own problems (cultural balkanization and national identity destruction and the fact that it's basically a ponzi, since developing countries eventually become developed countries and you run out of people to import). However for Korea and Japan, while they avoid the loss of identity and homeland for the native population by not importing large numbers of immigrants, that means their demographic issues will hit them much harder.
However, in the long run, Korea will still be Korea, even with a smaller population, which will eventually stabilize at lower densities as the culture changes and only the pro natal people are left. Meanwhile Britain will no longer be Britain, France will no longer be France, the populations that created them will be replaced by people with no real historical connection to them, and their unique cultures and histories will disappear.
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@fogellmclovin6278 Oh really? Ukraine's water, power, internet, tv , radio, sanitation, internet etc are still fully functional, there has been no targeted bombing of civilian infrastructure whatsoever. The fact that when the West invades a country, it can kill hundreds of thousands of civilians and it's "just collateral damage, oops" whereas when Russia does and a sngle civilian is killed suddenly the entire media and Western leadership is ranting about genocide and war crimes, shows what hypocritical propagandists they are.
Compare Ukraine to the way the Americans carpet bombed Baghdad during the Iraq invasion. When are the war crimes tribunals starting for Britsh and American forces, including one of the hypocrites on this very panel?
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British voters are given a choice between left neoliberal globalists (Labour) and right neoliberal globalists (Tories), and useless ones at that. Whether you're left or right, we need serious government with actual national vision, not declinist weaklings looking to foreign domination to tell them what to do (whether that's the EU or corporate America).
There's no real plan to actually fix anything either, just tinker with things in meaningless ways, Labour wants taxes 1% higher, Tories want them 1% lower, Labour wants a million immigrants every year, the Tories want 900,000, Labour wants to carbon neutral by 2050, the Tories want to be carbon neutral by 2055 - it's all basically the same.
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British establishment propaganda for the public really is pathetic. And before the shills attack me as a "Russian bot", you can read the Royal United Services Institute "Arsenal of Democracy" report, which makes clear that the Russians are capable of out producing nearly the entire Western world combined when it comes to key munitions like cruise missiles and artillery shells.
Western media have been repeating this lie then being proved wrong for months;
"Russia running short on guided missiles, firing indiscriminately" - Jerusalem Post, 17 March
"Ukraine claims Russian troops running out of food, fuel & ammo as war enters day 27" - Republic World, 22 March
"Vladimir Putin 'running out' of missiles" - Telegraph, 1 April
"Russia running short of precision missiles, say western officials" - FT, 29 April
The neocon globalists who control our establishment need to go, they've led us from one own goal to another for years, all supposedly in the name of our "national interest".
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"allowed to win"? People like this really never learn, the fact that they think they're the world's school teacher is what provoked this conflict in the first place. You aren't "allowing" Russa to do anything, they beat us, we threw everything we had at them except open war, and it didn't work. Now we've wrecked Europe's economy, permanently destroyed the illusion of "Western hegemony", and the country were were "helping" is in ruins. And Russia is, unironically stronger than it's been since Soviet times, with a huge, battle hardened army, and a rapidly growing, sanction proof economy.
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Let's just be clear, it's the West that was trying to encircle Russia since 2014, by first taking Crimea from it, cutting it off from its only warmwater port, and bragging about turning the Baltic into a "NATO lake" that Russia would be unable to traverse freely. To accuse the Russians of being the ones trying to seize maritime control is the literal opposite of the truth. Same with America sailing up and down 100 miles off China's coast, arming what is internationally recognized as part of China, then claming China is the aggressor for pushing back. And the idea that Russia and China are the "long term game" players is a laughable lie, again, it's NATO that hasd spent the last 27 years slowly marching closer and closer to Russia's borders, it's America that has sought to form an alliance against China in East Asia. Neither of these countries were anti Western, they just refused to be subordinated by the globalists who control the West.
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@danconceptsconveyed6617 Except that's a lie made up by people who want to try to pretend Ukraine losing is somehow winning.
People keep saying "Russia was expected to crush them" but where exactly was that said before the invasion? People seem to say it a lot after the fact as some sort of proof of Russian failure, but I don't remember anyone saying it at the time. Rather pathetic that people have to make up some false narrative to disprove as a way to claim some sort of victory for Ukraine.
Ukraine is the largest country in Europe, with a large population, and the largest standing army in Europe, trained to NATO standards and with the full intelligence and strategic support of the USA behind it, supplied with billions of dollars of equipment by NATO.
Russia deployed a small force less than half of the Ukrainian army, without any aerial campaign preceding their invasion, and is slowly but surely taking ground from Ukraine. Also despite Western propaganda, they've acted with far more restraint than Western invasions ever do, the first thing America does when it attacks a country is destroy civilian infrastructure, whereas in Ukraine the power grid, water, sewage systems and Internet and phone systems have all been left intact, and the capital city has barely been touched.
You claim that's evidence of failure only because you have no idea of the difficulty of such a campaign. For comparison, America was too scared to mount a ground invasion of Serbia in the 1990s, a country vastly smaller and weaker than Ukraine, instead bombing it from the air for months until it was no longer capable of resisting.
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Amazing how the "sovereignty and democracy respecters" at the Spectator are suddenly fine with violent overthrow of an elected government by a few thousand leftist protesters in the capital city, as long as it serves the geopolitical interests of neoliberal globalists in the West.
Should we support Extinction Rebellion or BLM overthrowing the British government? What a farce all this talk of "Ukrainian sovereignty" from you clowns is, the West either controls national governments, or if it doesn't, it brands them "authoritarian", or "rogue state", or "terrorist" or whatever pretext it needs to subvert (hence the opposition to this law which makes EU and US funding of subversion more difficult), regime change, sanction, bomb or invade as necessary to achieve its obectives.
There's no principle behind people like you, it's just naked power. But power in service of what? Not British or Western greatness, but the GloboHomo empire of degeneracy promoted by the left, that for some reason Western conservatives support. Gay pride marches in Kiev, BLM protests in Poland, open borders for Hungary.
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@Gibbons-q5y I'll bet you've never even watched fox news you smug cretin. One of the most amazing things about leftists is have they can consume the narrative pushed by 95% of the media, celebrities, schools and academia and believe that they're "an independent thinker compared to those stupid drumpftard faux news republitards"
I don't particularly care for Fox, it's clearly biased but no more so than CNN, MSNBC etc, for which it's perfectly easy to pick out similarly inane clips (as an example there's a clip from a week ago on CNN calling the migrant carvan "imaginary", the same migrant caravan now throwing stones at federal officers and attempting to rush the border). Hannity is a boring Trump cheerleader, just as Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow etc are boring Trump haters. This entire video hinges around attacking one opinion host for being honest about his biases, as opposed to the shills who work at other networks and claim to be neutral.
There is nothing "well evidenced" about the facile naked propaganda vox pumps out. For example the twit in this video clearly didn't "ask" his bosses if he could speak at a Democratic rally, that entire was faked, see 3:12 for Klein's ridiculous attempt at acting. As for quality I mean you do know that the literal stated intention of Ezra Klein when he started Vox was to "explain" (i.e. propagandize) the news for "low information" individuals (i.e. poorly educated morons who need to be spoonfed their beliefs). It's literally designed for stupid people, the person who created it knows his audience are ignorant morons who will believe whatever they're told will make them a cool progressive with the fashionable opinions to have. People like you seem to equate the condescension and smugness of Vox with actual intelligent argument.
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@aramisio2 You're a clown. There haven't been Russian NGOs in the West trying to subvert Western societies and overthrow their systems of government and elites for the last 30 years, but there has been the opposite.
Literally all the West doss is try to dominate and control the rest of the world. Sanctions, subversion, regime change, invasion and occupation all over the planet, attempting to contain or subvert all regional powers that threaten Western dominance (Russia, China. Iran etc), and regime change, attack, sanction or occupy all smaller ones that resist Western dominance (Venezuela, North Korea, Afghanistan, Serbia, Iraq, Syria etc)
When it seems like everyone else is the problem, you're the problem.
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@nonegiven2830 So what? If the other party negotiation believes you're willing to go that far it gives you leverage, while if they believe you will take any deal offered they will give you exactly what they want and that's it. This is a well known fact in international relations, the classic example of which is the "Cod Wars" between the UK and Iceland, which Iceland won despite being VASTLY smaller than the UK, because they were willing to do almost anything to achieve victory (a far greater imbalance than there is between the UK and EU.)
And your characterisation of the difference is inaccurate anyway, since the Eurozone is in a far more precarious economic position than the UK at the moment, so a hit to their economy could push them into a continent wide recession, similar to the way that Greece or Ireland were far more affected by a financial crisis caused by America than America was itself. The UK on the other hand might take an initial harder hit, but as a smaller independent nation it could take much faster action to adapt than the EU could.
A lot of people also seem to think that when people say "the EU is 50% of our trade" that means it's 50% of our economy. It's 50% of our INTERNATIONAL trade, but 90% of the economy is domestic, so it's really 50% of 10%, i.e. 5%, and even the worst case outcomes of Brexit don't show trade with Europe collapsing by more than 50%, so it's less than 2.5% of our economy being threatened. Nowhere near the hysterical metaphors people use.
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@MeMo-ny5bv This story is in America, he was tried under American law and found not guilty, she doesn't get to pretend that he actually is guilty because she's a smug British leftist. The simple facts of the case show self defence, he was found not guilty based on those facts, Channel 4 are supposed to objectively cover the news, their opinions about "those horrid Americans and their guns" are irrelevant. So no, they do not get to lie about and distort the facts of the case because of their views on guns.
And school shootings are so rare that they are statistically 0.00000000001% of shootings, let alone murders. Only hysterical leftists use emotional manipulation like that to make national level policy that affect hundreds of millions of people. Plenty of the most heavily armed US states have the lowest rates of crime and murder, while those with the heaviest gun control have some of the highest.
Home swiming pools kill a hundred times more kids each year, while having no utility outside of recreation (unlike guns, which serve for providing self defence, discouraging crime, pest control, recreation etc). Weirdly today's leftists have no interest in banning them, so the reason for calling for bans on guns is about disarming their political opponents, nothing more.
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
Principled leftists used to understand these facts, but now all you're so stupid that you do nothing but serve the interests of corporate and media elites.
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I've always found the little game that judges play, where whenever they're criticized for their bias, they say it's "an attack on the independent, impartial judiciary", ridiculous. But the thing is, it's actually criticism of the FICTION of an independent, impartial judiciary. Judges are overwhelmingly left wing, and unlike America, where they are honest about the fact that there are conservative and liberal judges, and politicians appoint them on that basis, here we pretend they're all netural, but in reality that ends up meaning almost all left wing.
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