Comments by "Mat Broomfield" (@matbroomfield) on "Facebook’s Oversight Board Was Right to Ban Trump" video.

It's nothing to do with his position - it's to do with with what he says! If Reason incites violence then they absolutely should be censored.
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@RevantheBlack Completely false analogy. To make it accurate, you should have said "First they came for the fascists, but I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a fascist." And then end the paragraph there because fascists don't have a right to spout their rhetoric on a privately owned service, or in a public place.
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@nitinsaha85 Trump has consistently incited violence since he first ran for office. Telling the police to rough up suspects; offering to pay the legal fees of anyone who hit a protestor at one of his rallies, and yes, telling people to march on the capital because the election was stolen. It was a direct incitement. And what about the leftists? BLM were fighting for their lives. Antifa were fighting against white supremacists. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever.
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@elpeopuru3003 What you just perpetrated there was known as a "slippery slope fallacy." You incorrectly assume that A inevitably leads to B and on all the way to Z. For instance, "If I let you eat a candy bar, you'll want more and more, and then you'll become fat." In this context, you need to articulate who "they" are. It is logical that a government or the people would oppose fascism. It is not logical that because they oppose fascism, that they would also oppose democracy or ordinary citizens. That is where you are fallaciously assuming a sequence of events that does not logically, let alone inevitably follow. As for Gina Carano, I'd never heard of her until now so I have no opinion.
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@karenness5588 BLM protestors and January 6th rioters are polar opposites (BLM are are fighting for their lives - the people in the capital were misguidedly but literally commiting insurrection). However, Facebook has banned LOADS of BLM commentators. It uses algorithms to determine infringements of its policies, and the algorithms do not discern whether you are speaking up for justice or Trump.
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@headtaker02 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-covid-response-economy-jobs-taxes-inequality-1080345/ https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/789540931/2-years-later-trump-tax-cuts-have-failed-to-deliver-on-gops-promises?t=1621471043397 https://www.policygenius.com/taxes/who-benefited-most-from-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/
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@elenabob4953 You're joking right? So hours after insighting an insurrection, his lawyer telling people to fight for justice, delaying the national guard response, denying McCarthy help when he called and begged for it DURING the insurrection, and setting the hounds on his own VP, he eventually said "Go home in peace" and that satisfies you? By your standard, if I stab you 50 times then say "Peace be with you" afterwards, that would mean that our interaction had been peaceful would it?
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@PiousMoltar Please back away from the Koolaid - it's messing with your brain.
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@elpeopuru3003 You still haven't identified who "they" are. Some people have used their consumer power to object to some people they strongly disagree with. Do you not think that people should have the right to exercise the only leverage they have to express their feelings on a matter? That said, I am strongly opposed to overreacting cancel culture, but where is the line between consumer power and cancel culture? The fact that the word "fascist" has been misused by a certain class of histrionic people - mostly in or not long out of university does not change its basic meaning. You know what I mean when I use the word. Trump is a fascist because he does not believe in the basic functioning of democracy. He subverts the system, appoints his own yes men, ran the country like a dictatorship, ignored the rule of law, and attempts to crush any opponents. As for Gina Carano - I had heard of the case; I just didn't know her name, you are clearly more of a Disney fan than I am - but even if I had NOT heard of this single trivial incident, it would neither make me ignorant, nor lessen the value of my opinions on other issues, any more than it would lessen yours if you were not up to date on the intricacies of the Joel Greburg case. I don't expect you to have a total awareness of every current event in the country. For what it's worth, I think it's 100% valid for her to lose her job - not because a bunch of people complained about her moronic statements, but because she was a representative of Disney. If she brings them into disrepute, then she is a liability. Professional sports stars have exactly those sort of terms written into their contracts. Try being a player in the NBA and say something outrageous and see what happens. And you don't get to say something offensive, add the words "Sorry no offence" and think that erases what you just said. If you cared about giving not offence, you would have chosen your words more considerately in the first place.
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@elpeopuru3003 I never said they were. Learn how to read.
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@headtaker02 The middle class didn't bring home an extra $6000 under Trump.
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@karenness5588 The problem is that you are suggesting that black people should trust the very people who have been oppressing them for centuries, and the very courts that are institutiionally racist, to treat them with fairness. Moreover, while they are waiting for that to happen (and it's ALREADY been litigated), they are STILL getting killed. If someone tells you that you are being treated fairly, then habitually murders you, how much more shit you tolerate before you rise up and defend yourself? What if Britain had said to America "You should take it to the courts to decide your independence" or the French in the 1700s or the Indians, or any other nation that stood up and DEMANDED fair treatment? It's very easy from a position of privilege to tell the oppressed that they should play nice. That said, I appreciate that the insurrectionists THOUGHT they were fighting for democracy, misguided though they were. I have some sympathy for the fact that they were mislead, but if they are that stupid, that's on them.
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@karlschauff7989 "far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, " Wikipedia. What part of that does not fit Trump?
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Redacted Thoughtcriminal🌷 What about them? Did they smash the building? Were they erecting nooses and carrying handcuffs? Were they literally calling out the names of the senators they wanted to kill? Did anyone have to hide because they were so threatening? Did police officers get die as a result? Was anyone hurt? Were they comitting insurrection? Absolutely no comparison.
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@sixwingedasura3059 Given that I just POSTED a definition of the word "fascist", I'd have to disagree with you. And I have NEVER called anyone a fascist to their face or in an online conversation. It's massively and childishly overused by teens and early 20s. However, as Trump perfectly matched ALL of the definitional qualifications for the word, I'd say I was 100% correct in my usage. So you're batting 0 for 3, there. Now where do I collect my winnings?
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@sixwingedasura3059 Nope, absolutely wrong. It's not "as I put it" - it's a well known term for a fallacious form of reasoning. I already gave an example where it would be inappropropriate. Also, while we're at it, human pattern recognition is NOTORIOUSLY fallible. People ascribe agency to things that have none because they see patterns - the devil's causeway, thunder, natural noises in their houses. They also ascribe patterns to things that do not have them. I'm not saying that you should not pay attention to apparent patterns - the fact that you almost always lose at a casino, the fact that the mean temperature decreases further from the equator, etc. But when you inappropriately PREDICT a downwards trending pattern of events, without a clear causal chain and prior experience of that sequence, then it is, as I correctly said, a slippery slope fallacy.
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@elpeopuru3003 The system is biased? Hmmmm, so how many people were arrested during the 6th protests? How long did it take the military to even turn UP? How many lives were at risk during the other riots? I think this is just a matter of perception on your behalf. Also, I don't know the facts behind the other protests, but the left tends to protest based on facts. The right protests based on lies and feelings. Again - a massive difference.
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@elpeopuru3003 I am 100% in favour of protest rights, and yes, they SHOULD have the same rules applied for the same type of behaviour. So why were PEACEFUL BLM protestors met with extreme police violence, pepper spray, rubber bullets, illegal arrests and more, (I'm not talking about the looters who deserve all they got), whilst treasonous insurrectionists who broke their way into the capitol building, threatening the lives of America's leaders, breaking the building and smearing faeces on the walls, were treated with far greater courtesy? The people on the 6th who protested OUTSIDE are patriots and I support their (ignorant and misguided) attempts to fight for fair elections. But they WERE acting on feelings and incorrect information. When they stormed the capitol, they lost their status as protestors and became rioters or insurrectionists or both. There's zero irony to my statement. It is an unquestionable, demonstrable fact that black people face institutional racism by police, in society, and by the judiciary. That's not opinion. It has been proven time and again. It is also a proven fact that right wing voters tend to be lower info, lower IQ, religious motivated people. That also, is not opinion. If the right were treated how the left are, on the 6th, 100 people would would have been shot by the police. Instead, the president prevented the national guard from helping, the police were underprepared, and the police were taking photos OF THEMSELVES with the rioters. You're 100% right; both sides are not treated evenly, but it's not in the way you think. But then a victim complex is ALSO part of the right wing mentality. You have all the privilege and you still feel hard done by. It's all about fear and insecurity. I don't say that out of snideness, but it's a truism of the conservative mindset - fear of change - fear of "the great replacement" - fear of losing privilege. But it's coming no matter what, so better to greet it with optimism.
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@elpeopuru3003 No, they absolutely were not. Teams of anonymised civilians were not drafted in. Extreme violence was not employed. An excess of police were not drafted in with military grade equipment - quite the opposite. The police were massively outnumbered and underprepared at the capitol and they sensibly decided not to provoke their anger by going head to head.
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@elpeopuru3003 References please?
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@elpeopuru3003 I notice you didn't have a comment about all the weapons that were taken to the capitol. Was watching the news today about a man who had a dozen molotivs in his truck, and the other man who repeatedly tased a cop.
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@frankyhorn2475 Trump has REPEATEDLY called for violence. He called for it at his rallies. He asked the police not to be so careful transporting prisoners. He urged them to go hard dealing with protestors. And even the explicit call not to be violent that yu are cherry picking, came after hours of violence that he had stoked, his lawyer had specifically called for, and which he actively prevented giving police the manpower to stop.
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