Comments by "Mat Broomfield" (@matbroomfield) on "Australian state bars US couple from seeing dying father - BBC News" video.
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@AlanWattResistance I don't believe in God, so I don't accept the concept of sin much less original sin. I don't look to any external entity for my sense of morality. For the same reason, I don't despise God any more than you despise Voldemort in the Harry Potter books. You can dislike the character portrayal, and I am dismayed that so many adults live their lives as though he was real. Frankly, even the character is so wildly inconsistent and hormonal that he's impossible to take seriously. If he was the main protagonist in a piece of literature, he would be in a piece of poorly written junior high literature. He is EXACTLY what I would expect from a stone or bronze age author; a perfect depiction of the values of the time: vengeful, vindictive, all-powerful yet ridiclously limited, sexist, patriarchal, capricious and contradictory.
As for salvation, I'd need to believe there was something I needed saving from - I do not, but even if I did, the temporary suffering of a proxy to satisfy capricious and arbitrary rules that he himself set could not possibly serve as redemption, and a choice offered under threat of eternal torment BY HIM is not free - it's coercion.
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@AlanWattResistance You speak for "Christians" with complete certainty, as if there was any remotely cohesive set of beliefs. I never heard a truer statement than "The Bible is a mirror for people's personal beliefs." Bigots pull all the horrible stuff out and use it to hate. Good people point to the turn the other cheek, help people stuff, and control freaks point to all the rules and threats.
"Morality is in-built or hardwired into every human soul" if we are created in the image of god, it's in the image of a genocidal lunatic who murdered his own children during the flood, and in sodom and gomorrah; killed children for calling Elijah a baldy, and killed Job's children just to test what his omniscient brain already knew, to name but a few cases of god's "morality."
"Stealing is wrong, but you could argue that stealing something that nobody is going to miss would be ok, but the very act of stealing itself harms you within" That's why God authorised the stealing of land, people and wives on multiple occasions right? So stealing IS okay when it's part of a greater purpose?
"Hell is simply an eternal seperation from God," says YOUR flavour of christianity.
" God doesn't send anyone to hell, you send yourself to hell by your pride. " So I act according to the nature god gave me, living out the precise life his omniscient brain knew I would live, following a deterministic existence that I'm not capable of changing even if I wanted to, but it's MY fault that I am utterly unconvinced in the existence of god. That's like dropping a puppy then murdering it for falling.
"not subject to the irrational desires of the body. " the desires God gave us. "You sometimes do things you didn't wish to do" Because I'm not perfect. "We're all failures, we all fall short of what is expected of us. These are our sins" no, failing to be perfect is not a sin, it is what it means to exist in an imperfect brain, in an imperfect universe - both of which god supposedly created with total omniscience.
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