Comments by "Mat Broomfield" (@matbroomfield) on "David Pakman Show" channel.

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  192. Well that was utterly pathetic David. For starters, "legal" is simply a judicially determined rule that has no bearing upon something's "rightness", nor upon the beliefs or values of the people upon whom it is applied. The Social Contract is a concept put forwards by Rousseau, which you butchered. My parents do not have the right to make legal decisions in my childhood that will contractually obligate me to ANYTHING except citizenship as an adult. Rousseau's social contract refers to the agreement of the governed to BE governed providing they receive reasonable value from that governance. Your version amounts to a South Park, redneckian version of "If you don't like it, you can git out," which is about the weakest possible argument that you could make, not least because there is NOWHERE on the planet that you could go to avoid being subject to the taxation of ANOTHER state. Your silly argument about simply not paying taxes is PRECISELY what anti-tax proponents mean when they talk about being forced to pay under threat of violence. It is LITERALLY coercion to obey a rule you had nothing to do with creating and cannot opt out of. As you yourself said, you have almost zero chance of eliminating taxation by lobbying or even standing for office. The strongest argument in favour of taxes is simply that if you wish to avail yourself of the things that taxes pay for, then you need to contribute your fair share to receive those things. The strongest argument against taxes, is the astronomical misuse of those taxes on weapons, vanity projects, needless drug enforcement, despicable politicians and more. Frankly, from a man that I respect and usually agree with, this was an embarrassingly poor refutation of the position of those who oppose taxation.
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  971.  @2010wilsoneya  It's only ridiculous because you're not thnking rationally. 1. Sleeping in your own bed was not a crime. Playing with a toy gun was not a crime. Owning a BB gun in a hotel room was not a crime. Looking at a gun in a walmart was not a crime. And EVEN IF THEY WERE, execution is not the penalty. 2. Do you SERIOUSLY not understand why this is moronic on multiple levels? i. Criminals do not have the force of the government behind them ii. Two wrongs do not make a right iii. The police are tasked with protecting the citizens, not murdering them iv. So what? If you report that a policeman tried to murder you in your bed when you are innocent of any crime, by your logic, the controller should just say "Well people in your neighbourhood kill more people and hang up." Seriously Sam, did you think about this garbage even for a millisecond? Every word you say speaks about your own prejudice. "would you allow your son or daughter to marry one of these men or women who have been killed by police " Would I allow my daughter marry an INNOCENT little boy in a park playing with a toy gun? Why not? Would I allow my son to marry an INNOCENT woman asleep in her own bed? Of course. Would I allow my daughter to marry an INNOCENT man whose crime was to investigate a building site? Sure. "dangerous black people are being killed by police" absolute bullshit. I wondered if you were just ignorant and stupid, but with that statement, you have confirmed tha you are in fact, a racist bigot. Fuck you. We're done.
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  1169.  @TheCheese1988  It amazes me how an intelligent person as you clearly are, justifies theft and a sense of entitlement to other people's money. Let's unpack this. At its most basic level, taxation is designed to provide support for the infrastructure that enables society to function: roads, army, police, government, safety regulation, etc. It was NEVER intended as a form of wealth redistribution nor SHOULD it be. By what right does a poor person who has made bad life choices have any expectation to share in the income of those who earn more? Nobody CHOOSES to be born into the society that they live in. I believe it was Rousseau who coined the term "the social contract" the tacit agreement of the population to be governed by laws that they did not explicitly choose. The only way that ANYONE would voluntarily agree to that is if those laws are perceived to be both fair and necessary. On a fundamental level, providing social infrastructure is both fair AND necessary. Ignoring idiot libertarians who think that they can somehow pay only for what they use (somehow forgetting about foreign adversaries, immigration control, law and order, health and safety and a million other things that they cannot possibly pay for on a "by the use" basis. Don't get me wrong, I think that healthcare IS a human right, and affordable tertiary education benefits society, but it is not the DUTY of the wealthy to benefit society. YOu say that "a person profiting from a country and its citizens gives a share of their wealth back" and by "a share", you actually mean a GREATER share as a percentage, but this is where you are thinking like an uber-lib. Society has no RIGHT to their money. Except for those who make their wealth from investing, the wealthy have already more than given back to society in terms of jobs, and services required to support their businesses. Take Amazon - your example. They employ 566,000 people worldwide. That's over half a million people who would possibly not even HAVE jobs were it not for Amazon. Again we can definitely talk about minimum wage but that's a different conversation. Then talk about all the other industries that benefit - the fuel industry that puts gasoline in all those worker's cars, the taxation levied upon the gas to deliver all those goods, the delivery drivers (not employed by Amazon), the packaging manufacturers, plus the manufacturers of all the things they sell. The ripples of income generation for society and the goverment is massive. So when you talk about the benefis Basos takes from society, he pays every step of the way for that benefit, and society would be far worse off without Basos than the other way around. Now you have proposed that people who, through their own labour or that of family members before them, earn much more than the average, should simply have more of that income stolen from them. Why? Did they use more of society's resources to accumulate it? You say that being taxed on their earnings is "ergo fair". They ARE taxed on their earnings. If they earn 20 million and you earn 200k, if you are both taxed at a flat 20% THAT is fair. You are absolutely spot on in assessing that the wealthy are able to use their wealth to exploit a plethora of tax avoidance schemes and I would argue that THIS is what needs addressing. In a sense, simply increasing the tax rate for ALL high earners is the same as a regressive tax for the poor in that it penalises ALL wealthy for the crimes of just a percentage of them. Take Jeff Basos or Elon Musk - a bigger pair of scumbags you could not hope to meet. Perhaps they pay their staff minimum wage and hide their money offshore. Then take Bernie Sanders. I assume that he is straight down the line with his taxes. Why should he pay a higher tax bracket because scum like Musk avoid their share? The solution is not simply to raise taxation on ALL higher earners (I realise Sanders would never be in the same tax bracket as Basos). The solution is to ensure that the wealthy are not able to exploit loopholes that their wealth enabled them to have implemented in the first place. And the solution is to take money out of politics.
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