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Comments by "Jim Taylor" (@jimtaylor294) on "MN Lyon (NB) - Guide 179" video.
Great Britain has over 403 listed varieties of Cheese :D .
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@HMSConqueror Admiral Fisher: Laughs in HMS Incomparable ;-) .
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I can see most of them being plated over later in service, had the ships been built. Had the spacing of the turrets been tighter though, most've the secondary battery could've been turreted.
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@weldonwin Aye. Especially if British Brie. (aye, that exists)
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@Janus A very very long time ago, that was XD.
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Given the french proclivity for trying to have more of something than their ally/rival/mortal enemy across the channel, one can definitely see that happening XD. HMS Agincourt's excuse though for her week's worth of guns & turrets, was simply that the Brazillians couldn't afford 14" guns, nor a triple turret alternative with 15 guns.
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@RedXlV True; though in fairness to Brazil economic stability for S-American countries has never been consistent XD.
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@toddwebb7521 We Brit's would then have probably found a reason for a 42 gunned ship simply called HMS Waterloo XD. (or Crecy, Trafalgar, etc)
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@Drachinifel True ;-) .
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@stanleyrogouski Technically only EU Law [which is now irrelevant] states that, and it only states that Stilton made in the locale of Stilton can't be called Stilton. Batshit red tape like that is why the UK's leaving the bloc XD.
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@kemarisite Not to mention that the refloated Strasbourg actually was bombed and sunk at moorings by the USAAF, just to make sure it was dealt with as a theoretical threat. (Dunkirk having been blown up by her own crew whilst in drydock, and irreperably damaged) When the french got the harbour back... there wasn't much left in the port beyond twisted wreckage.
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@Jenkouille Then I must disagree with your disagreement. All that I've read states Fuel type as the main motivator. The R's also were different in design features to the QE's, such as being a step closer to All or Nothing armour layouts. The concept of five turrets was abandoned with the QE's not on cost grounds, but because they found a better balance of mobility and belt armour could be achieved with four turrets, rather like how the 1930's KGV class would end up with ten 14" instead of twelve. The upgrade from 13.5" of previous classes to 15" guns also didn't reduce the ship's Weight of Broadside, and was a major upgrade in individual round potency.
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@RedXlV True. Drach' touched upon those.
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^ Laughs in HMS Renown.
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^ Your opinion - and SPaG - are shit.
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^ Go back to WoW kiddo XD.
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^ Just because you have an abstract opinion - and it is just an opinion - doesn't mean it's worth duckshit :P . Also comparing WWI era ships to WWII and saying "with a couple of salvoes" as if naval gunnery was that simple... typical WoW'er.
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yawn Give it up kiddo.
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Nah. The uploader is British, thus we get the drivel el fromage stated in proper British measures 😁👌 . If it was a French uploader, then I'd understand your desire to drown him in a vat of brie 😂
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@cadengrace5466 You do know that the Distributed Armour scheme of early Dreadnoughts & Super-Dreadnoughts was to protect them from H/E shells, right?. That; and it was not switching to H/E soon enough that meant the Battle of Samar was a defeat for the IJN, instead of a one-sided slaughter of USN ships.
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^ Tell Drach' all that, if you think you know more upon the subject than he and his sources do. It's after all no secret that the IJN's A/P rounds Failed to sink any of the Destroyers at Samar, despite dozens of hits, some being Battleship caliber. After largely switching to H/E, the IJN began to whittle down the opposition, albeit far too late. P.S. Contrary to your delusion to the contrary, I haven't ever played WOW, and have no interest therein.
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@NashmanNash Indeed. The only example of those two words coinciding in a name... would only be celebrated after such a mysterious drowning ala fromage had befallen them 😉😏
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In short: The Tallboy & Grand Slam would've seen even more use against ships. Wouldn't have required as many as the Tirpitz either. That; and it's unlikely that the germans nor italians would've been able to operate them, as they had nothing in common with their own ships.
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Drach's covered that in detail on The Drydock.
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@Jenkouille Worth noting though that the R class also got less updates due to being the newer ships, thus ironically seen as less in need thereof. Also of note that the R class was a step closer to the All or Nothing armour scheme, than the QE's.
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^ Incorrect. Cost had nothing to do with it, especially as eight R class were ordered. The purpose of the R's was originally to produce a Battleship class with firepower and armour upto the standard of the QE's, but not reliant on oil for fuel. The UK after all at the time had an abundence of domestic coal, but no known domestic oil. As it was the plan changed, and no R's were ever fully coal fuelled.
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Motion seconded, as they were the last gun cruisers of the RN, albeit limited in scope by being rebuilt Minotaur class hulls.
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