Comments by "Cat Lily" (@Catlily5) on "NYTN" channel.

  1. I never heard about the lynching of Italians in New Orleans or elsewhere. That is awful but thanks for teaching me what really happened. Do Southern Italians consider themselves white now? I heard it depends which part of the country you are from.
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  2. I knew a woman who was more than half native blood but not enough to enroll in a specific tribe. She just missed having the 1/4 needed to enroll. She grew up on the reservation. Her mother was mostly native. Her father was Mexican. I felt bad that she was kept out of the tribe she grew up in.
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  3. I would argue that the Civil War was about economics and slavery. The two are intertwined. Slavery was making the South rich. You can't really separate the two issues. Edit: In case you don't understand history. The Confederacy fought AGAINST the USA. You can't logically support both.
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  4.  @colinchampollion4420  You have to have enough blood from one certain tribe. If you have the same amount of blood from 8 different tribes you could be 100% Native and not belong to any tribe. The woman I knew had to be 1/4 to be a member. She barely missed that amount due to a long time back white ancestor. So she was denied membership. Even though she is more than half native.
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  5. Not all Cubans embrace their African heritage.
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  6. I looked at a fair amount Ancient Egyptian art and they seemed to have a variety of features and skin shades. Cleopatra was Greek but if we don't know her mother's heritage it seems hard to be sure what she looked like.
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  7.  @colinchampollion4420  They are similar. That is not the point. Let me put it this way. What if your blood was from 8 countries. Norway, Germany, Ireland, Italy, France, Switzerland, Belgium and Denmark. To be a citizen you had to be 1/4 blood. You would be banned from inheriting your mother's house because it could only be used by a citizen. And you are not one.
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  8.  @zeroturn7091  Taino is a Caribbean tribe so it is not surprising if most Mexicans don't have Taino blood. Most Mexicans do have Native blood (usually from the tribes that traditionally lived in Mexico).
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  9.  @GentlecolonCare  Hutus and Tutsis are done fighting. Doesn't excuse anyone European for what we did. If my neighbor is a murderer does that excuse me of my murder? No.
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  10. I didn't know about tribes keeping it a secret to avoid boarding school. I guess the bigger tribes couldn't hide.
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  11. This is the first time I have heard of Queen Charlotte. Some of those paintings look like she might have some African ancestry but who knows?
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  12. The Moors have some Sub Saharan blood.
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  13. They might be confused in a thousand years if his picture does not survive.
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  14. Of course there were more issues than slavery in the Civil War but slavery was a big part of the war. Slavery was a large part of the economy in the South. You can also tell how important slavery was because before the Civil War there had to be a balance of slave states and "free" states and territories admitted to the USA.
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  15. Thanks for sharing your story.
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  16. Edit: Tainos are a Caribbean Island tribe not a Mexican tribe.
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  17.  @findingbeautyinthepain8965  Thanks for explaining. It does sound confusing.
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  18. Great video about searching for identity!
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  19.  @colinchampollion4420  Also, you grew up in that house but you would be banned from living in the land you grew up in unless you can convince someone with enough blood to marry you. If you divorced you would be thrown out again.
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  20.  @colinchampollion4420  Still not the point. The point is you aren't allowed in your homeland.
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  21.  @stormy-le6pb  You are telling me that my friend's story is bogus? How rude. Different tribes have different rules. So I am guessing that you are confused.
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  22.  @sky-pv7ff  Mexico has various tribes. That won't help my friend live where she grew up.
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  23.  @HeyThreshold  Good for you but some other people from Italy in this comment section disagree.
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  24.  @romanicempirium3083  Yes, I heard that the Spanish came up with the term blue blood. The people didn't have to be pure, just pale enough to see the blue veins on their arms. Some people want to stay pure. Some people want to mix. This has been since the beginning of time. Mixing different types of genes is often a good thing. Even humans and other types like Neanderthals mixed.
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  25. ​ @creoleexplained  How was Egypt never a black territory when people from what is now Sudan ruled it for at least a hundred years? Egypt was ruled by various people. Some of which would be considered black. And others which would be considered mixed.
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  26. ​@victoriamaje3879 Both of her comments are here. I noticed that sometimes YouTube won't show a comment I wrote so I write another one. Sometimes I write 3. Then when I come back later usually all 3 are there. But sometimes not. I think YouTube plays games with people. Sometimes they don't allow me to like a video and I look back later and it shows that I liked it. YouTube is weird.
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  27. ​ @kukaracacuka  You are right that Germans were not Aryans. A certain strange moustached man and his kind invented that. Some Germans, (like my father) are R1b so distant relatives of R1a but not Aryans.
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  28. Interesting twists. Maybe he was from San Antonio with some Canary Islands roots.
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  29.  @themadlad8540  I hadn't heard that. I thought it was Chicago.
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  30.  @HeyThreshold  Also, just to clarify: I believe you that Italians are not as obsessed with color as people in the USA. Just that some people in Italy said they were judged for being darker.
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  31. Everyone is oppressed but we still have to acknowledge the bad recent abuses. And the current abuses. You can't just gravely mistreat people and pretend it didn't happen.
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  32. ​​ @nytn  German Americans as well though mainly the Japanese Americans.
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  33. ​ @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Doubtful, Skeletor. That is not proven
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  34.  @skeletorlikespotatoes7846  It does not.
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  35.  @nytn  That was a good way to protect themselves.
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  36. I am sorry that it didn't go well. Hang in there!
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  37.  @scottbivins4758  States rights were emphasized more in the beginning of the USA. But the USA was having trouble functioning with each state conducting its own foreign policy and printing its own money etc. That's why states had to give up some of their powers so that the USA continued to exist. I personally think that The South should have been allowed to leave instead of having the Civil War. However, it is very doubtful that either the USA or The Confederate States of America would be as rich and powerful separately as they are together.
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  38.  @johncollins7062  So slavery was making the South rich and was helping make the North rich as well.
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  39.  @johncollins7062  I am talking about the South as a whole. Nowadays the USA as a whole is considered a rich country. Despite the fact that many people in the USA are not rich and we have homeless tent villages in most cities.
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  40.  @johncollins7062  I prefer to read books than watch movies.
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  41.  @johncollins7062  So I "avoid the truth" if I don't watch/read what you suggest? 😂
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  42.  @johncollins7062  I used to feel the same way about emojis. But then I realized that they are useful for conveying emotions with text. Maybe it is time that you stop being so elitist.
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  43.  @johncollins7062  I don't care what your origins are, you are an elitist now.
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  44.  @zoeboy82  Who said that I don't care about origins?
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  45.  @zoeboy82  I didn't mean his ethnic origins. I meant his class origins.
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  46.  @zoeboy82  If you are poor, middle class or rich.
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  47. Why are they based more on the father? 23 and me at first leaned somewhat towards my mother. Now it leans much too heavily towards my father.
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  48. Italy had concentration camps.
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  49.  indiojazz  They don't use genes they use records. PS. Read the comments before yelling. Your question was already answered.
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  50.  @shebelieves9650  It doesn't change who you are but it can cause legal problems.
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  51.  @HeyThreshold  If this was a shorter thread then I would search it but at 268 comments I will not do that. You are welcome to.
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  52.  @ravensantos4189  It is interesting how similar people identify themselves differently.
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  53.  @joebiggs4387  That would be great if people would actually treat each other as equals.
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  54.  @zorkwork3841  👍
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  55. I think you can be both Hispanic and Native because you have ancestors from both communities. Some Hispanic people don't want to claim their Native part. But that doesn't mean that you can't. This is just my opinion.
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  56. Even if you are only a few things those companies keep changing everything.
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  57.  @chirstopherj  Creep.
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  58.  @kurkolman  How is my mitochondrial DNA (passed down the maternal line) from the Yamnaya tribe then? My mom's recent ancestors are from the UK.
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  60.  @nytn  Probably.
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  61. Plus, getting paid enough to sustain life is much more than not getting paid at all. The main thing poor whites had that slaves didn't was the opportunity to change bosses and jobs. This was a huge advantage. Plus I doubt poor whites were whipped very often or had their toes cut off for running away. They also didn't have to worry about lynchings as much either.
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  62.  @johncollins7062  25 to 30% of white families in the South owned slaves. That is a fair amount not a small amount.
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  63.  @johncollins7062  The economic structure of slavery was still huge because some really big slaveowners owned a lot of the wealth. Just like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and other top executives may not be a high percentage of the population but they own a lot of the wealth.
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  64.  @johncollins7062  Turn your "white equals right" thought process around and see the bigger picture.
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  65.  @johncollins7062  Slavery was definitely NOT worth fighting for even though slavery and economics were intertwined. Edit: I mean it was worth fighting to end slavery but not to continue slavery.
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  66.  @johncollins7062  The Civil War was over both slavery and economics. Obviously slavery was a major issue. That is why you had a balance between slave states and free states joining The Union.
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  67.  @johncollins7062  Yes slaves and former slaves both picked cotton. But freed slaves could choose to pick cotton for somebody else or choose to move somewhere else. That is a huge improvement.
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  68.  @johncollins7062  ?
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  69.  @zoeboy82  I am talking about origin as in his childhood origins not his ancestry. He said he was from Muskogee not that his ancestry was Muskogee.
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  70.  @davidjohn438  The Confederates were AGAINST the USA.
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  71. The Confederacy fought AGAINST the United States of America. So...
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  72. GOD BLESS THE USA. Not the Confederacy. The Confederacy fought AGAINST the USA.
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  73. You can't logically support both sides. David.
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  74. I think more than two viable parties in the USA would be a good thing. I understand that our system is set up for two parties to be in power.
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  75. I like Angela Davis. I think that it would be hard for her to accept having the blood of what she has fought against for so long. I hope she can.
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  76. We can't go back. We have to go forward.
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  77. ​ @suzanneyoung8011  Pride and prejudice is not in the top ten banned books of 2023 but I am sure it is still banned in some schools.
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  78.  @JohnSmith-ct5jd  Do you live on the East Coast? Edit: Rules are different for many tribes in the West. For her tribe you had to be 25% her tribe or more.
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  79.  @zeroturn7091  No problem.
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  80.  @howardj602  She wasn't in a Dawes Roll tribe.
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  81.  @howardj602  My friend did not have her DNA tested. She was just short of 1/4 by her tribe's records.
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  82.  @kenlounders5399  Her mother is in that tribe but is just under half. Her father is not. So she is just under quarter and does not meet the requirement. Not all tribes have the same requirements.
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  83.  @kenlounders5399  DNA is not involved. Paper records indicate that she is just under a quarter and does not qualify to be a member. For her tribe you have to be a quarter according to paper records.
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  84.  @kenlounders5399  If they are a small tribe. But different tribes have different rules. If inbreeding was going to be a problem they could change their membership rules.
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  85.  @possum9827  My friend does get healthcare services for Native Americans. The point is she can't inherit her family home in the reservation because she is just under 1/4 of her tribe.
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  86. @ladyyang8040  I agree!
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  87.  @rroadmap  There are still slaves in the USA. Just not legal slaves. I read an article about it in National Geographic. Some of the people who pick oranges in the USA are slaves. Some of the popsicle cart pushers are slaves. There are sex workers who are slaves.
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  88.  @D4L_457  That is possible.
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  89.  @HeyThreshold  You said that Italians don't go by color.
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  90.  @tomhaney5186  Including your family!
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  91.  @starloszelson4541  Well, obviously.
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  92.  @5Antvin  So are you claiming that Italians weren't lynched
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  93.  @ericjsmoczynski4374  I grew up in New Mexico. I didn't learn about it.
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  94.  @RaviKumar-cl6iy  Americans are Americans. Under the heading of Americans are subcategories.
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  95.  @shockcat5988  What little argument strategy? I made a lot of comments on this video. Most of them months ago.
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  96. How do you know there was zero sub Saharan blood in Cleopatra. You know all of her thousands of ancestors?
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  97. It is hard to discuss this in the USA without saying race. Even you had to say it in altered form. You are right that it is not scientific. Too bad there isn't a better term that is well known.
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  98.  @twizzle1710  Are you trying to say that insecurity or tribe mean the same thing as race? Then why didn't the OP use that instead?
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  99.  @twizzle1710  If I tell people that I am a member of a tribe people in the USA are going to be confused.
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  100. And Jesus?
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  101.  @TheZenGarden_  Whatever.
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  102.  @TheZenGarden_ 
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  103.  @TheZenGarden_  So you are a Christian Buddhist?
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  104. 23 and me ( the genetic company) said most people identified as black in the USA when they were about 25% African decent.
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  105. I don't know the answer.
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  106. Also German Americans. But the Japanese Americans were the majority.
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  107.  @lisajackson1964  Interesting. I heard the Galicians in Spain were Celtic.
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  108. Both?
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  109. Al Arnold is a brave man. I admire his willingness to face difficult issues. I came prepared to dislike him but instead I was impressed.
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  110. The Moors have some Sub-Saharan blood. So do some Arabs.
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  111.  @creoleexplained  People mix. That is what Ancient Egyptian art shows. People can mix and their cultures may only partially mix.
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  112.  @1310Gaytan  And they tested the DNA of mummies for all 3000 years of Ancient Egyptian history? I don't think so. I go by their art work. Everyone wants to Egyptians to look like them. I go by how they showed themselves. If they did more through DNA tests I might be interested.
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  113.  @1310Gaytan  I agree Ancient Egyptians were their own ethnicity. But that doesn't mean that they weren't mixed.
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  114.  @facetofloor  Yes I am aware that people called Black in the USA can be mixed. But we are talking about ancient Egyptians right now.
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  115. My friend is half Hispanic and it has been a big deal for her. She looks more white and her Hispanic side of the family and white people don't accept that she is part Hispanic which is hurtful to her. She is not being recognized for her whole self.
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  116.  @kurkolman  Both my father's haplogroup and my mother's haplogroup are Yamnaya in Europe. So that is not always true.
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  117.  @kurkolman  2 different DNA tests confirm this.
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  118.  @kurkolman  What tests did you make that proved no women came?
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  119.  @kurkolman  Maybe so. I don't think you could tell who put a knife in the back of whom very often from archeological evidence from thousands of years ago. Seeing how murder now is often difficult to prove even with current technology. Second of all: men murder women much more frequently than women murder men now. I suspect it was the same back then due to size and strength differences but I have no proof.
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  120.  @kurkolman  Your sexist comments are amusing considering that many men grape women when they invade or conquer an area. So the women didn't have much choice. I am sure a couple jumped into the arms of the enemy but most had to endure what life threw at them.
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  121.  @kurkolman  What did they get more of or less than?
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  122.  @kurkolman  You are changing the subject. More people have food than ever before in history. We were discussing other things. But whatever. I am not really interested in continuing this conversation.
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  123.  @zeged  Obviously that is usually the case. But my mitochondrial DNA says that isn't 100% the case.
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  124.  @zeged  Yes. I already said that women often got ra,,_ed. Why are you repeating that to me?
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  125.  @zeged  Probably. She got there somehow.
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  126. I have ancestors who were in SC and moved to Ohio because they didn't like slavery. They were Quakers. But our name is common.
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  127. Pride doesn't keep you from being victimized. It can keep you from admitting it. Which could keep you victimized longer.
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  128.  @maryk8563  Yes, I agree. But denial rarely leads to healing and moving on.
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