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I wanna put in a word for the manipulative friendzone guys.
I've often hit it off with a girl, taken my shot and been rejected, then denied her request to remain friends.
The key misunderstanding here is that this is not a ploy to gain anything from her. The girls I end up falling for are awesome people who I'd love to be friends with. However, I can't, for my own mental health. I can't see this person and vibe with them and constantly think, I want more from them. This is not a sexual desire (tho it can be too), it's a deeply romantic one. It's not that I pretended to be your friend to get to have sex. The friendship was genuine, feelings arose, and now I need more and can't continue like this. There is no ultrerior motive, this is just the sad facts.
Edit: This comment keeps spawning a lot of engagement and interesting conversations, so I thought I'd give an update.
So first off, I didn't mention that I HAVE reconnected with some of my former crushes, some of who are in relationships, and we have very nice and meaningful friendships. It just takes a lot of time to process these feelings and get rid of them.
Second, with my most recent crush, I actually tried precisely what Dr K recommended. After a few weeks of meeting in a group environment, I noticed feelings arousing. I spoke to her about it and she was very relived and glad to have it in the open, but shot me down and said she hoped we can continue as friends. I said I'm actually cool with that, thinking I'll stick it out, either until she develops feelings or until I get interested in someone else. Whether we end up as friends or partners, I'll be fine with both.
Well, that failed miserably. I was keeping up my end of the bargain, treating her like any other friend and still going on dates with other women. However, the friendship was still very weird, because she kept holding me at arm's length, reaching out on her own but shutting me down every time I offered to hang out. I know that's not what she intended, but I felt like a sort of toy that you can play with whenever you want, but it itself doesn't get any say. She liked me enough to spend time with me on her own terms, but still had no trust that I knew to respect her boundaries and wouldn't make an advance if I got the right opportunity. Sorry, that's not a real friendship and I don't need this. The whole experience was ultimately very draining and not worth it, but if anyone thinks I did something wrong here, I'm curious to know.
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@ficklebar Well first, I had to accept some truths.
Number one, I was overworked. This didn't make a lot of sense because I had been working ~6h a day, but it was true. I did computer science, which was waaay more taxing for me than normal jobs. In practice, this meant that if I felt too stressed or tired, I would simply stop whatever I was doing and try to relax instead, consequences be damned.
Number two, this wasn't working. I needed to switch subjects because CS didn't fit me as a person, I like working with other people and being outside and doing different things.
On the emotional side of things, I had to accept that my family cared about my well being more than my success. I thought that if I got poor marks or switched I would be a failure, which my parents assured me they didn't care about. I had to realize that NOTHING is worse than losing my health. Failing out, disappointing my parents, all of that is better than useless hands and permanent pain.
I started moving my hands again, doing more physical exercise (which had always been a part of my life and which I had neglected during uni). I also started seeing a psychological therapist and an ergotherapist.
A lot of my recovery and choices were enabled by the fact that I live in Austria, which has a great public healthcare system. So I don't know how much you can apply to your own situation, but I wish you all the best.
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My god this has been such a long time coming. I have NEVER incrementally built a habit in my life. I eat healthy, exercise every day, meditate, play piano, study computer science and teach chess, and none of that shit was done because I read atomic habits or whatever.
I was forced into playing piano as a kid, now a kawaii just stand in the living room and it's easy to sit down and play. I never got into the habit of buying sweets or sodas. Exercise was always fun, there was never a struggle. I was depressed and addicted to video games, what did I do? 9 month civil service, full time, no chance to play video games.
To this day, I almost always eat something sweet if I even see it. I get hooked on a video game or series for hours on end. I never built a habit, I never even incrementally beat an addiction, I just introduced drasting changes to my environment that forced me to live a certain lifestyle. Thanks for finally speaking out about this.
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@imacds This is something I've actually noticed, and I'm really actually interested to know why. I am super upfront and communicative, but this isn't something attractive. I have learned that you can never express the full scope of your feelings to a girl or this will immediately turn her off. Instead, as a hetero man, you have to play this game of showing just enough for her to know you might be interested, but still little enough that she can't be sure where this is going. Women, including my psychologist, have confirmed (obviously, some women are different, I'm painting with a broad brush here).
Then, when it feels right, you go in for the kiss. Finally, if she's into it, you can be more upfront.
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I'm studying to become a teacher in Austria and I teach chess classes for elementary school students.
There's some people championing teachers here that claim therapizing is not their job, that they're not being paid enough. I agree that teachers in the US are paid abysmally and are overworked, so it's pointless to put that responsibility on them. However, the idea that you signed up to be a "teacher, not a social worker" is laughable. Teachers ARE social workers. That's the difference between them and a didactics scholar. Paying attention to kids' emotional needs is intrinsic to being a teacher. If you deny this, that's fine, stay in academia, but you're not fit to be a teacher. However, the solution is not to expect the impossible from overworked teachers, but create a more humane teaching environment and pay better, like in Scandinavia and central Europe
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@timxiix3864 Really does sound like 5up. I find it hard to relate though, because personally I'm filled with inner drive to make the world a better place... I think the difference is, I make a lot of effort to get acquainted with the ugly of the world, and to emphasize with those affected. Like climate change, labor alienation, systemic injustice, etc - it makes me feel like if I don't do something, we're fucked. Like, royally fucked, fucked on an unimaginable scale of suffering. This sort of existential feeling overpowers any kind of personal meanderance, and it gives me purpose.
Make of this whatever you will :)
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@Ehrill942 I associate romantic feelings with a lot of hurt, as many men do. There is a huge imbalance between the genders in the sense that if a girl really wants a man, she has a huge likelihood of getting him. However, most guys know what it's like to fall in love over and over again just to be rejected. The idea that I might fall in love with a girl and she would reciprocate feels like a fairytale to me.
So you kinda learn to kill that part of yourself. I spend a lot of effort regulating my emotions and shutting down romantic feelings. At the point I'm at, I don't even pursue girls anymore, I just wait till one likes me and then decide whether I want to reciprocate or not.
Romance is also a skill, and not an easy one. Many guys feel it but don't know how to show it. How do you do a romantic gesture?
You can't be too straightforwards, it comes off as crass and overly attached.
You can't be too vague, it comes off as manipulative.
You can't be too touchy, it comes off as creepy.
You can't be too little touchy, it comes off as cold and uninterested.
Girls experience so much more romantic attention that they learn these skills intuitively. Like, when I was 20 and at a party, there was this girl that was into me that kept shadowing me and constantly talking at me. That was the first time I went, holy shit, this is kind of annoying, that's definitely something I've been doing and UNDERSTANDABLY getting rejected for. But you were probably in your early teens when you first experienced something like this.
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@roquemaciel No, and I'm very happy that I've stopped listening to people like you. Disingenuous listeners give disingenuous advice. The more I've talked to my real women friends about this the past year, the more I've learned how much blame I've been internalizing. I used to think that if a woman perceives me as distrustful, I must be doing something wrong and she must be right. Now I realize that I've been taking responsibility for other people's issues.
But I HAVE been doing something wrong - getting too emotionally invested in something that wasn't there, simply due to a lack of experience. The more experience I'm getting, the better I'm getting at reading signs and evaluating situations, and also realizing that there was never any avoiding this process. You start painfully as a noob and become better and better.
So I completely reject this framing of me treating relationships transactionally. I have never lied, deceived, ghosted, disrespected, crossed boundaries or denied anyone an explanation. Take your holier-than-thou guilt tripping somewhere else, this is the kind of shit that's been holding me back for no reason
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@Dimitris_Half Well rome had great infrastructure. The food was mediterranian, possibly the healthiest diet in the world. A huge part of the roman army were volunteers or conscripts from conquered territories, so as a citizen, you weren't cannon fodder. Rome built stuff like colosseum arenas and public baths for, mind you, not just the elites but the public, who had the free time to make use of them.
Obviously, you had a fair shot of catching smallpox at 30 and dying. That's the big counterpoint.
In the modern USA, if you're actually middle class, of course you live a way better life. But if you're a poor working class Andy, like many are... you spend most of your time inside a building doing some highly specialized menial activity drains the life from your soul. You come home, pump some opioids or numb yourself with alcohol, spend time on the internet or in front of the TV which doesn't give you any happiness. You don't have health insurance or it's shitty, so you die at 50 from a heart attack anyway.
There's a debate to be had here
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I had my first friends with benefits last year. At first I was really hesitant, because it's obviously surrounded by so much stigma and drama, but I thought to myself: hey, as long as I'm honest, what can go wrong?
Oh boy was I ...RIGHT.
Already during the date, as it was going well, I asked what her intentions on Tinder were. We were both on the same page that we're gunning for a relationship but hookups are also fine. We ended up going to her place, yadiyada, and afterwards we had a cuddle session with some deeptalk where we basically discussed the relationship (she already wanted me as a boyfriend, I didn't).
Then a few weeks later, she texted that she found someone willing to commit to her and that meant we'd have to stop. I was like, great for you girl, I understand and wish you all the best. Sadly, they didn't end up working, but we kept in contact as friends (without the benefits). It was all in all a nice experience, just communicate everything honestly and there is no drama
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