Comments by "Master Commander" (@MasterCommander.) on "TLDR News EU"
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Here is the answer Miguel Lopez: The threat of joining NATO was only an excuse so they could do what they were planning to do based on soviet era of parts of Ukraine's Russification so that the areas planted by the Soviet Council with Russians to live and work there so that, if ever needed that land, rich in natural resources, could be annexed to Russia, based on having Russians living there (the argument would be) : "who's interests must be protected". At that time, the Soviet Communist Party Council just did not imagine that they will be ousted, thrown down, or that the Russians born in Ukraine would not want to have anything to do with Moscow since their interests could be better represented by their local leaders without wasting any money through a corrupt bureaucracy created by Putin in Moscow toward Moscow.
However, Putin only needed a few "unhappy but nostalgic of the old days, Russians" to create trouble so that Putin could intervene in their behalf, as 'if in behalf of all of them' as he keeps deceiving even today, even though "most" of that "all" don't want Putin or Russia into Ukraine. Since Putin is a liar, a deceiver and a killer, he uses the argument about NATO to scare his own Russian supporters in Russia with "Nazis" and "invasion of Russia" just an excuse to mask the real reason for which he had to do so called "special operation" in Ukraine, reason which is to grab (due to his greed) to grab more land especially since is supposed to be rich in natural resources and gas in the Azov Sea by the Mariupol area.
Nations invading other nations won't ever tell you that they did it for the new discovered petrol or gas or other natural resources which are worth A LOT, A LOT , A LOT a lot of money BILLIONS UP ON BILLIONS, OR TRILLIONS. THE THREAT IS NOT NATO. THE THREAT TO RUSSIA IS UKRAINE AND UKRAINIANS BECOMING successful under democracy, or RICHER THAN RUSSIA and the Russians becoming unhappy with Putin keeping them in poverty on top of becoming more of a dictator, more
and more each day and week and month that passes, until he becomes too strong and Russians too unhappy with him, but would be to late then and too hard then to throw him down from his seat of power that he would end building by then against his own people but for his own interests. He is very selfish but deceiving that he is a patriot, a good man with a good heart while couldn't be farther from the truth this murderer and former KGB agent Bolshevik type of Nazi himself while accusing others of what he, himself is a Bolshevik Nazi willing to invade others and impose on others what he would not like to be imposed on himself, such as submission to someone else, and labour and pay much of his own money to some one else.
He is a great hypocrite. He wants to grant autonomy to some fraction of a minority from another country to brake away from that country but he won't give the same to some of his republics from inside his Russian Federation that would like to brake away but Russia won't allow. He is a hypocrite dictator become more tyrant as days, months and years passes, if he is allowed to live. That is why, long term, the biggest looser in this conflict, are not the the West, not NATO, not the Ukrainians, but
the regular Russian people are the bigger looser, which perhaps deserves it since let themselves indoctrinated and deceived, once again, by one more Bolshevik Hitler, by Putler (Putin) after Lenin and Stalin (the first two Bolshevik Hitlers of Russia. Russians (not all but too many of them), never seems to learn the lesson which is that: worldly people if allowed long enough in power, they will consolidate and build power such way to remain for life and become tyrants, murderers, greedy for more, and more, and more of all things, with a greed that never satisfies and never ends and keep wanting even more in the detriment of the regular poor people, and never get satisfied with what they got until they become too old or sick and die or are shot and die.
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This is a comment to another comment made by someone who said is surprised by the Russian's military weakness their failures and their ways (which are to erase cities killing everyone indiscriminately and not being concerned with being accurate in strike): I have to say this: Most of your people still did not learned much since you are still deceived by their deceitful show of greatness and by their insisting and deceitful nuclear threats. Nuclear threats works both ways (with those that are smart to obtain victories just through threats,) but your people do not appear smart, and the fact that you did not and do not threaten back posts you as being weak in their eyes and unsure to immediately strike back - encouraging them that they will win and to be even bolder.
To win any war, you must meet threat with threat, and promise with promise or red line with red line, doing what you say you would else don't promise but just do. That is how wars are won and that is how we keep "The Deceiver" at bay, away.
They see that your generals or politicians interviewed on your media are hesitant and 'unwilling' to be decisive to strike back the same way. They are threatening to erase your cities while you talk how to strike back accurately without much civilian casualties and only the military launching sites. Have you lost your minds?
That is exactly what would make Russians win a war if they have to strike with nuclear weapons, knowing that you wont strike back their cities but just military launching sites. So you are willing to have 30 million or more of your own citizens killed in erased cities out of existence in exchange for destroying some Russian nuclear sites ?
Ok then , no problem because that is a green light for them to have the courage for a nuclear attack strike since military destroyed launching sites will surely be built back as long as they have population with cities (un-erased) with which to build, since you appear in vain talks not willing to make the threat back to erase the same way their cities. Strikes on their military launching sites with bunkers could be bet on that the military and some of the nuclear weapons and their technology will survive in bunkers while citizens on un-erased cities could help rebuild more. YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST THE WAR. Come on, IN YOU KNEES NOW AND BE SLAVES. -- YOU MAY DO AS YOU ARE TOLD since you are cowards, willing to live enslaved.
THEREFORE YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST THE WAR not just the war of words but embolden them to believe that they could strike you with nuclear bombs erasing your cities to reduce your population, while you will only strike back military installations because you have advanced technology for precision. Only fools boast with precision of military targets while their enemies boast to erase their cities and kill their citizens in number of tens of millions.
Indeed only fools since the wise would say: 'you do that to mine and I will do that to yours. Go ahead if you want to commit national suicide' - That is the kind of language that dictators understand while your naive politicians are a bunch of naive fools. Either you have generals or politician traitors and media reporter traitors giving such media interviews, or they are incompetent together with the entire Biden administration.
Criminal minded radicals can not be stopped by fetish, girly liberals or by you if you are in that category, giving vain talks to pass to the enemy the notion that you are willing to die as kind people because you are better than they are. Then the criminal minded radicals will prove that you could not be better since you are "willing to remain kind for getting dead and sacrificing your people as well." They believe that they are better.
So unless you are willing to start to talk like they are and ready to act as they do, and contra-attack as they attack, or even better, you will loose; in fact you have already lost, willing to sacrifice your population just so that you appear in the history that you were nice in talks and willing to compromise. They couldn't care less about your appearance in history which they are going to twist it any way. Whoever remains alive writes the history and not you 'the dead'. They will twist, deceive or lie just like they have twisted words and deceived today saying that they didn't plan to (so called) "operate" in Ukraine if it were not for NATO's threat to invade Russia.
Which threat ? I have followed the conflict that Russians have created in Ukraine, for a long time and I haven't heard A SINGLE threat to invade Russia, not even one threat. Yet the maniac criminal minded Bolshevik Hitler 'Putler' invader of countries since he is a fascist, and deceiver, keeps deceiving his population through his totalitarian media TV controlled by him, that supposedly you or your people said that you have threaten to invade Russia.
Putin and his Bolshevik Nazi mafia is not playing fair you naive fools therefore, in a game where the other side is not playing fair, IF YOU CONTINUE to play the wrong kind of fairness, YOU WILL LOOSE. Putin and his Bolshevik Nazis couldn't care less for you being kind in your discussions, not willing to threaten back as much or even more, or you being willing to die as "a kind person", remaining kind to not escalate, while they escalate and scare to death your people with threats, so your people could put pressure or vote you down & make concessions (surrender) to become a nation enslaved to Putin's desires and ideology due to your cowardliness. The good people are they that survive with their nations, whether fair or not, kind or not.
A criminal minded radical like Putin (Putler the Third Bolshevik Hitler after Lenin and Stalin), could only be stopped by another radical. Trying to stop Hitler with a naive's talk will only get you & your nation dead, because encourages the killer to strike seeing that you are not willing or ready to strike even with a greater vengeance back. The killer has no reason to strike if he knows that everyone and everything in his household get destroyed if he strikes.
A radical, Bolshevik Hitler like Putler, killer Putin can not be stopped except by another person that appears to him as killer and radical. If you think that Trump is a radical, then that is what it takes. Unless Biden talks like Trump or even better, without backing down one step (like you shouldn't when facing a wild beast [Putin the beast],), and willing to do what he said he does, so is not just empty words, Putin will not listen and won't back down. Putin more than ever, is willing to make crumble your NATO (which he hates greatly), when he will see through your actions if you are not willing to defend the Baltic Republics or Moldova inhabited by few million Romanian NATO citizens as majority, which has double citizen ship from Romania and Moldova since both were only one country before the Russians soviets robbed it and divided it until the Soviet fall.
Moldovan citizens never lost their Romanian citizenship since around 10 years ago had been granted with documents, by tHEN President of Romania Traian Basescu. So an attack on Moldova which is populated with Romanian NATO citizens as a majority of the population, is an attack on NATO because they are not just "Moldovans" but they are also through their double citizenship "Romanians NATO granted protection" citizens.
It will be seen if Biden proves to be a coward or turns into a lion (kind of too old braking wind lion) if put in the situation with an attack on Moldova.
Moldova will probably be the next main conflict and it will involve Romanian citizens which are NATO assured with protection. Not to mention that their brothers from the NATO Romania will also get involved. If NATO protection is proven weak or fake, (due to Biden) or some incompetent advisers, then NATO will start to crack and crumble when Moldova,'s citizens which are also Romanians, are not defended, or Romania, or Poland or the Baltics, or at least western Ukraine from occupation and for survival as a nation. Are the deeds and not the words that will decide the fate of NATO,
A Bolshevik Nazi like Putler is willing to go all the way , even to a nuclear strike if you let him understand that no matter what, he will still have a country with people in it over which to rule as Emperor. It is only if he becomes sure that using a nuclear weapon will lead to national Russia's suicide and a nuclear irradiated Russia unlivable for the next 100 years, with no Russians in it . . . that Russians and he will not dare to use nuclear weapons even if he looses over the West Ukraine.
Ukrainians should start securing the West Ukraine to build it up into a Singapore fortress but even much stronger and start building bunkers in every town and city with much food and conditions to live in, (learn from Switzerland) and create conditions to do a Vietnam kind of war, before wasting more ammunition in trying to get Russia out of the entire Ukraine in endless stand ups confrontation because Western pockets are not infinite, nor has western people infinite patience or infinite will to suffer years after years, just for the sake of the Ukrainians.
Foolish decisions made by the Ukrainian government, will only lead to the waste (the loss) of more financial capital, people and technology; capital which could be used to transform the Western Ukraine into a fortress to assure it as a "secure home for the survival of the Ukrainians as a nation", instead of getting wasted with a huge Russia led by a maniac willing to drag a war for longer than the west is willing to sustain it with money, weapons or ammunition, even in Russia's own detriment. Greed to have all lands back AT ANY COST, won't be supported by the West forever and support will fall as years pass and the population gets fed up with loosing their wealth for the Ukrainians.
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Here is the answer Miguel Lopez: The threat of joining NATO was only an excuse so they could do what they were planning to do based on soviet era of parts of Ukraine's Russification so that the areas planted by the Soviet Council with Russians to live and work there so that, if ever needed that land, rich in natural resources, could be annexed to Russia, based on having Russians living there (the argument would be) : "who's interests must be protected". At that time, the Soviet Communist Party Council just did not imagine that they will be ousted, thrown down, or that the Russians born in Ukraine would not want to have anything to do with Moscow since their interests could be better represented by their local leaders without wasting any money through a corrupt bureaucracy created by Putin in Moscow toward Moscow.
However, Putin only needed a few "unhappy but nostalgic of the old days, Russians" to create trouble so that Putin could intervene in their behalf, as 'if in behalf of all of them' as he keeps deceiving even today, even though "most" of that "all" don't want Putin or Russia into Ukraine. Since Putin is a liar, a deceiver and a killer, he uses the argument about NATO to scare his own Russian supporters in Russia with "Nazis" and "invasion of Russia" just an excuse to mask the real reason for which he had to do so called "special operation" in Ukraine, reason which is to grab (due to his greed) to grab more land especially since is supposed to be rich in natural resources and gas in the Azov Sea by the Mariupol area.
Nations invading other nations won't ever tell you that they did it for the new discovered petrol or gas or other natural resources which are worth A LOT, A LOT , A LOT a lot of money BILLIONS UP ON BILLIONS, OR TRILLIONS. THE THREAT IS NOT NATO. THE THREAT TO RUSSIA IS UKRAINE AND UKRAINIANS BECOMING successful under democracy, or RICHER THAN RUSSIA and the Russians becoming unhappy with Putin keeping them in poverty on top of becoming more of a dictator, more
and more each day and week and month that passes, until he becomes too strong and Russians too unhappy with him, but would be to late then and too hard then to throw him down from his seat of power that he would end building by then against his own people but for his own interests.
He is very selfish but deceiving that he is a patriot, a good man with a good heart while couldn't be farther from the truth this murderer and former KGB agent Bolshevik type of Nazi himself while accusing others of what he, himself is a Bolshevik Nazi willing to invade others and impose on others what he would not like to be imposed on himself, such as submission to someone else, and labour and pay much of his own money to some one else.
He is a great hypocrite. He wants to grant autonomy to some fraction of a minority from another country to brake away from that country but he won't give the same to some of his republics from inside his Russian Federation that would like to brake away but Russia won't allow. He is a hypocrite dictator become more tyrant as days, months and years passes, if he is allowed to live. That is why, long term, the biggest looser in this conflict, are not the the West, not NATO, not the Ukrainians, but
the regular Russian people are the bigger looser, which perhaps deserves it since let themselves indoctrinated and deceived, once again, by one more Bolshevik Hitler, by Putler (Putin) after Lenin and Stalin (the first two Bolshevik Hitlers of Russia. Russians (not all but too many of them), never seems to learn the lesson which is that:
worldly people if allowed long enough in power, they will consolidate and build power such way to remain for life and become tyrants, murderers, greedy for more, and more, and more of all things, with a greed that never satisfies and never ends and keep wanting even more in the detriment of the regular poor people, and never get satisfied with what they got until they become too old or sick and die or are shot and die.
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PART 2 OF 3 (SEE ALSO PART 1 and 3), "Ukrainians should start securing Odesa and make it 1000 times stronger and the rest of West Ukraine to build it up into a Singapore fortress but with many bunkers like Switzerland in every village, every town and cities, with SECRET bunkers deep underground with tunnels to have places of refuge without living the area when overwhelmed, in attacks, to be able to strike in the night in the middle of the enemy coming out from secret bunkers and tunnels like rats with millions of grenades, with a gorilla war like in Vietnam. Build bunkers and tunnels all over the West Ukraine from Odessa to Kyiv with stored 1 year supply of medicine, food, drinkable water, weapons and ammunition, and huge deep underground space of refuge without quitting (the land that could be invaded by huge new numbers of recruits-info from spy near Putin).
While the anti-nuclear weapons are beneficial in the hands of the USA beneficial for the entire international order and safety without being used outside the USA,, yet won't be beneficial anymore if is shown, proved and then, spy or traitors getting copies of them, into the hands of criminals of war like the Boshevik Hitler - Putler of Russia and others like him, in Iran and North Korea.
The decision for the mountain of gold, on which the USA stands, to be left 'undisturbed' was made because is more secure there in the national park reserved land covered and protected by laws against digging, and with wild killer bears, and wolves, in hostile weather, and covered by 30 meters of very hard stone in freezing weather and snow, and where 'normal people' do not go.
Even the tunnel dig there for the new secret weapon experiment long time ago, when was discovered the gold there after 30 meters of digging in solid hard stone,, during Reagan's time, has been cemented and covered back since there couldn't be a safer place than leaving the gold there as is. It is more secure there, than in any banks or locations available in the USA, among the public in lands that are populated. I suppose that is why the hypocrites, plays this game of "inflation" and dollar devaluation while multiplying dollars to (later) back them up in value with much gold (unless they will do it with the petrol and gas.)
Surely the day will come when the gold will be revealed and moved in known federal gold secured facilities which has to first be built armored like bunkers underground, but also the economy must be totally collapsed for so much gold to start being beneficial. If that gold were to be de-classified, taken and put in use now, then for one single dollar, (1$) any strong currency like the euro, or the British Pound, would have to be exchanged in amount of up to one million due to the immense gold quantity (literally a mountain of gold) which backs up every US dollar if the discovered gold gets de-classified, made public knowledge, filmed and taken and stored in human created facilities & banks
Imagine having to pay hundred of thousands of euros or Canadian or Australian dollars, or a million for only one US dollar or for few US $, with which INSIDE the USA, one $ would pay for just one cheeseburger or for one bread, or for a piece of meat or for a bottle of oil with such dollar worth thousands of hundreds of euros. Just think about ! There would be serious international problems.
It would mean that no one (such as students, negotiators or ambassadors, scientists, . . . and so on, no one of the desirable kind because couldn't afford), could come the the USA except increase the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the frontiers, willing to go to the extremes just to enter and remain in the USA while no country on earth could still use the US dollar as international currency or to buy anything from the USA because for them would be immensely too expensive.
On the other hand the USA being able to purchase all things from outside and doing so, (without producing anymore anything) will destroy any of the enterprises, manufacturers and businesses that produces things in the USA and make the USA totally dependent on the countries that would sell them things just like the Germans are dependent on the Russian gas.
There is indeed no answer to the certain huge damages that could and would happen to the US economy and world wide, if the gold were to be declassified, proved real, taken for public use in banks and used now, real big problem due to it's immense quantity. Little or partial extraction won't be possible either without the media or people finding out the location. .
The information points out that only one of the democrat conservatives (and no democrat liberals) had access to the classified information folder that contains the location map and other info. The few others with very high level clearance to the classified information are Republicans.
Imagine hundreds of thousands of euros for a single US dollar, $ backed by so much gold, and the consequences that will bring world wide collapsing either the price of gold or else the entire economies world wide, or else Americans starting to behave like maniacs or idiots with their dollars in Europe or getting kidnapped world wide, ....
OR THE GOLD BECOMING de-evaluated, depreciated (because there is too much of it), and treated the same like copper or aluminum. All kinds of things could happen and shake the international stability and order achieved so far which is balanced and good enough for the Western world.
So far, the American politicians did not want to risk the international order and stability that they have achieved. But is not clear about the future since the gold being on public land designated "National Park reserved land for wild life" is by law equal property of all American citizens and therefore no one has 'more rights' over 'more quantity' than others. That puts in question all the millionaires and billionaires. Should they receive the RE-EVALUATION STRENGTH of their dollars, according to the dollars they posses or should they receive from fresh as a new start equally as everyone else the same worth. There is no easy answer to the question since either way would make a part of the population very unhappy and ready to go to extremes in all kinds of ways.
But the time will come when it will be beneficial to be used. Now is not that time because if the price of gold won't be made to fall to the level of the value of the copper or aluminum, then would lead to all kinds of other bad things (thousands of different bad things (IF THE PRICE OF GOLD WOULD NOT FALL) then murders and robberies will increase 1000% over, and people would kill each other for any small amount of dollars backed by so much gold which outside the USA would be fortunes, . . . and so on , and on, all kinds of negative bad leading things.
As example: no regular people in the world outside the USA, could afford to buy a single dollar (no, not the regular people) dollar which is backed by so much gold. It also would mean that no country on earth could buy things from the USA or use the American dollars, (but only the USA could buy things (almost anything from any country) so the American dollar could not remain to be used as a normal affordable international currency, which means would be an immense loss of power against the USA if the dollar stops being the 'world wide international currency' as it is today.
It would also lead to the economy collapse while ironically, having a mountain of gold in the country which instead of helping would do more harm, besides that could and would lead too many Americans into becoming "maniacs and idiots when traveling outside the USA, or end kidnapped in much greater numbers than ever before, or killed for their dollars, . . . etc"
while the economy of too many countries and governments would collapse or would be taken over by dictators, and dictators getting multiplied all over the planet. There is no sure answer other than at this point in time, it won't be good at all or beneficial for the USA to use the gold discovered. It is better to fix the economy in normal ways using competent people who are not liberal in spending and keep wasting money with no worthy (good) results.
There are many studies and different conclusions, but most of them show that the insane amount of gold discovered IF DECLASSIFIED, TAKEN and USED today, WILL TOTALLY COLLAPSE THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER PRESENT NOW and most certainly would collapse the USA economy along with the economies of many other countries all over the world.
The studies came to the conclusion that the only beneficial time to declassify and flood the markets and the world with so much gold, so you would pay with a quarter of a Kg of gold, for a bread or a dozen of eggs or for a piece of meat, is when already the USA economy ends collapsed with signs of anarchy starting and government collapsed with anarchists on the street, and the need arise of a huge local military force of order to be raised with payments direct with heavy gold coins, and ONLY THEN gold could become useful,
ONLY THEN the huge amount of gold could not do any extra damage BUT RATHER "REBORN THE COUNTRY washed of hypocrisy and corruption, AND THE ECONOMY "LIGHT FLASH" QUICK RISE BACK EVEN STRONGER THAN EVER. But the bottom of such fall needed by a leader to recruit a huge military force of order against anarchists, hypocrisy and corruption (all existent in some extent today in the USA without a collapse of the economy and without anarchists taking over the streets yet,) that bottom, would lead to the possibility of the rise of a dictator IF NOT WELL CALCULATED AND CAREFUL to clean the country without ending with a dictator. I AUTHORIZE YOU TO COPY THIS COMMENT about fortifying Odesa and the rest of West Ukraine MUCH MORE, and send the advice to Ukrainians & friends before becomes too late.
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Finland and Sweden are our own "Atheo-Judeo-Christian" people brothers and sisters and ABSOLUTELY MUST BE WELCOMED AND RECEIVED IN NATO, while Islamic Turkey must be ejected and thrown out of NATO because have made too many violations, including buying weapons from our enemies from Russia and speaking against our own people Swedish and Finlandeze. Turkey is also a great abuser of human rights in Turkey against Kurd minorities, also against Non-muslim minorities and against women which are often abused and even kidnapped and raped without ever receiving justice
* GET TURKEY OUT OF NATO * TURKEY MUST RESPECT EVEN INSIDE TURKEY AND TREAT EQUALLY WOMEN, AND ATHEO-JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PEOPLE without discrimination, before could be received back in NATO. UNTIL THEM TURKEY MUST BE REJECTED FROM NATO.
Turkey should have NEVER , EVER been received into the NATO and should never be allowed to remain in NATO because Turkey is not a fully democratic country, nor does respect without discrimination the human rights of all people, women as well as Non-Muslim minorities are still persecuted. Turkey is led by Erdogan, an islamic worshiper of Allah "The Deceiver" and "The Best of Deceivers" as Allah calls himself in his own Quran being:
"The Father of Lies" with the titles of Satan from the Bible, being "The Greatest of Deceivers" and of trickery, and "The Destroyer" of human souls: SEE the Quran chapter 3: verse 54 (3:54) , and chapter 8:v30 and in other chapters of the Hadith and of the Quran, in which the titles of Alah having the word "Deceiver" in them (Allah himself claiming those titles as being his) and that Allah first and foremost likes to deceive and lead astray before anything else.Besides Turkey being a great violator of human rights, against women but also against non--muslim minorities men and women
even today as we speak, minorities and women in Turkey are persecuted and discriminated against and have been persecuted and discriminated for ages until present and are still persecuted, Turkey spent it's money not buying NATO countries weapons but Russian and made a secret undercover agreements with Russia, and now is trying to please Russia by trying to oppose the access of Finland and Sweden to NATO, when is Turkey itself that does not belong to the European family of Nations and to NATO.
EU members must ask the NATO council to eject Turkey from NATO due to very many reasons besides ongoing violation of human rights even now, and beside having demolished Atheist centers of science learning while have turned Christian Churches into Mosques and financing and exporting Islamic Mosques into countries such as Bulgaria and Romania and many others while refusing permits of maintenance to repair and paint Christian places of worship in Turkey which once was a 99% Atheo-Judeo-Christian country called Byzantium and Corinth, which the Ottoman Turk Muslim empire have invaded, destroyed and killed in genocide all the natives which refused conversion to 'is slam' and changed the name of the country and it's capital from Constantinople to Istanbul.
There are very many and good reasons to eject Turkey out of NATO and move the American military base from Turkey to Bulgaria or Romania which are willing to receive it unless USA prefers Slovakia or Poland. The Turks of the Ottoman Empire who's country's name changed after the 1920's into "Turkey" to mask to escape the responsibility payment for their genocide never paid for; and made against more than 10 countries, against more than 10 million European people, some on which' lands stand now . As example the little piece on the European side which belongs to Greece but is still occupied by Turkey besides Cypress.
The Turks have invaded nine European countries, and many of them constantly for 1000 years until 100 years ago, invaded regularly and forced to pay immense amounts of money in gold, silver and other spoils and robberies of war which the Turks have constantly made , not to mention the genocide against Greece and against more than one million Armenians about 100 years ago.
Armenia last year was forced to ask for help from Russia against Azerbaijan that invaded it's territory which killed many Armenians helped by the Turks with drones, since NATO did not care to intervene on the side of Atheo-Judeo-Christian Armenia, therefore Armenia was forced to ask Russia for help which in exchange had to establish a Russian base.
Turkey did and does "undercover" business with Russia out of pleasure without being forced to buy Russian missiles, yet they did spend their money to end in Russian hands and to not end in European or American hands.
The Ottoman Turks are the same Islamic wolf beast and killer that has always been but are now hiding under the word "Turkey", a different title since 1920's to escape punishment for its genocide made against many European and Non-European nations, in present genocide against the Kurd people still under Turkey's occupation and many of them killed by thousands in Syria by Turks bombing them.
Turkey has invaded, forced into slavery and robbed and raped during the last 1000 years until 1920's, Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Romania, Moldova and parts of Ukraine and even parts of the Southern bottom of Russia, during the 1000 years of Muslim literally thousands of invasions ,robbing towns and villages, pillaging and burning towns and other times just robbing, raping and killing people in those mentioned and invaded countries, burning many, of them, raping women, killing men and often kidnapping girls and children for their harems to depopulate those countries while them to have 3--4 women to multiply themselves faster and to increase their armies and expend and invade more and more and rob more countries.
Thus studies show that if countries like Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, Macedonia would not have been invaded and children, girls and women not have been kidnapped in numbers of millions in the last 1000 years by the Turks, now those countries would have had double to triple populations while Turkey would only have under 30 million citizens now. But they now have over 60 million and very many of them looks as if are Serbs, Romanians, Bulgarians, and so on, because they are the very children, girls and women's grand, grand, grand children kidnapped from those European countries, raped and abused in Turkish harems.
Whoever does not learn and remember the history is bound to repeat it as victims. In today's days, when Muslim invasions doesn't work by force against stronger countries or against countries that have strong allies and friends,, they are invaded with immigrant practicing 'is slam' (is strike / is a fall) against Europe and Americas) coming in your countries to multiply and have four to five times more babies and multiply faster so they could take over using democratic system to overturn it and install 'is slam'
or else Muslim regulations and traditions under a fakes democracy or partial democracy system, favoring islam's muslims, imposing Muslim regulations and traditions to you, like it or not and get you imprisoned or killed if you do not respect their regulations and traditions while the hypocrites do not want to be treated the same in Non-Muslim countries for you to favor your own "Atheo-Judeo-Christian" culture and faith over that of the invading 'is slam' of the Quran of HaSatan'a'Lah (Lucifer). (How is that about being fair and not discriminating?).
I know, they are not fair at all but they dwell in hypocrisy. Just go as a Non-muslim in Turkey away from touristic areas where they play 'theater' to get your money, but just go to live as a resident amount them and you will find out how much discrimination and abuse they will practice against you.
If you are a women and not careful, you will even risk to be kidnapped, raped and who knows what else. So many women have been raped in Turkey but also subject to all kinds of other abuses, in so great number that there is no Atheo'Judeo'Christian country on earth to be compared with more kidnapping and rapes than Turkey and other islamic countries like Turkey.
Turkey works undercover with the Russians now and will try to please Putin by opposing the entrance in NATO of Finland and Sweden and also because reporters of those countries have reported on the abuses that have multiplied against women and the minorities Non-muslims as well as against the Kurds, since the very islamist Erdogan came in power, jailed much of his opposition and is set on evil against many EU countries in trying hard to export 'is slam'.
TURKEY SHOULD AND ABSOLUTELY MUST BE THROWN OUT OF NATO AND SHOULD RETREAT OUT OF THE INVADED GREEK LAND PIECE OF EUROPE THAT TURKEY HAS BEEN OCCUPIED AND OUT OF CYPRUS which Turkey has invaded not long ago and took it away from Greece AS WELL. OUT WITH ERDOGAN his ISLAM AND HIS SATAN'a'LAH. OUT OF CYPRUS AND OUT OF EUROPE.
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PART 2 OF 3 (SEE ALSO PART 1 and 3), about "Ukrainians should start securing Odesa and make it 1000 times stronger and the rest of West Ukraine to build it up into a Singapore fortress but with many bunkers like Switzerland in every village, every town and cities, with SECRET bunkers deep underground with tunnels to have places of refuge without living the area when overwhelmed, in attacks, to be able to strike in the night in the middle of the enemy coming out from secret bunkers and tunnels like rats with millions of grenades, with a gorilla war like in Vietnam. Build bunkers and tunnels all over the West Ukraine from Odessa to Kyiv as assurance and for can (tin) food, drinkable water, extra weapons and ammunition, and huge deep underground space of refuge without quitting the land that could be invaded by huge new numbers of recruits (info from spy near Putin).
While the anti-nuclear weapons are beneficial in the hands of the USA beneficial for the entire international order and safety without being used outside the USA,, yet won't be beneficial anymore if is shown, proved and then, spy or traitors getting copies of them, into the hands of criminals of war like the Boshevik Hitler - Putler of Russia and others like him, in Iran and North Korea.
The decision for the mountain of gold, on which the USA stands, to be left 'undisturbed' was made because is more secure there in the national park reserved land covered and protected by laws against digging, and with wild killer bears, and wolves, in hostile weather, and covered by 30 meters of very hard stone in freezing weather and snow, and where 'normal people' do not go.
Even the tunnel dig there for the new secret weapon experiment long time ago, when was discovered the gold there after 30 meters of digging in solid hard stone,, during Reagan's time, has been cemented and covered back since there couldn't be a safer place than leaving the gold there as is. It is more secure there, than in any banks or locations available in the USA, among the public in lands that are populated. I suppose that is why the hypocrites, plays this game of "inflation" and dollar devaluation while multiplying dollars to (later) back them up in value with much gold (unless they will do it with the petrol and gas.)
Surely the day will come when the gold will be revealed and moved in known federal gold secured facilities which has to first be built armored like bunkers underground, but also the economy must be totally collapsed for so much gold to start being beneficial. If that gold were to be de-classified, taken and put in use now, then for one single dollar, (1$) any strong currency like the euro, or the British Pound, would have to be exchanged in amount of up to one million due to the immense gold quantity (literally a mountain of gold) which backs up every US dollar if the discovered gold gets de-classified, made public knowledge, filmed and taken and stored in human created facilities & banks
Imagine having to pay hundred of thousands of euros or Canadian or Australian dollars, or a million for only one US dollar or for few US $, with which INSIDE the USA, one $ would pay for just one cheeseburger or for one bread, or for a piece of meat or for a bottle of oil with such dollar worth thousands of hundreds of euros. Just think about ! There would be serious international problems.
It would mean that no one (such as students, negotiators or ambassadors, scientists, . . . and so on, no one of the desirable kind because couldn't afford), could come the the USA except increase the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the frontiers, willing to go to the extremes just to enter and remain in the USA while no country on earth could still use the US dollar as international currency or to buy anything from the USA because for them would be immensely too expensive.
On the other hand the USA being able to purchase all things from outside and doing so, (without producing anymore anything) will destroy any of the enterprises, manufacturers and businesses that produces things in the USA and make the USA totally dependent on the countries that would sell them things just like the Germans are dependent on the Russian gas.
There is indeed no answer to the certain huge damages that could and would happen to the US economy and world wide, if the gold were to be declassified, proved real, taken for public use in banks and used now, real big problem due to it's immense quantity. Little or partial extraction won't be possible either without the media or people finding out the location. .
The information points out that only one of the democrat conservatives (and no democrat liberals) had access to the classified information folder that contains the location map and other info. The few others with very high level clearance to the classified information are Republicans.
Imagine hundreds of thousands of euros for a single US dollar, $ backed by so much gold, and the consequences that will bring world wide collapsing either the price of gold or else the entire economies world wide, or else Americans starting to behave like maniacs or idiots with their dollars in Europe or getting kidnapped world wide, ....
OR THE GOLD BECOMING de-evaluated, depreciated (because there is too much of it), and treated the same like copper or aluminum. All kinds of things could happen and shake the international stability and order achieved so far which is balanced and good enough for the Western world.
So far, the American politicians did not want to risk the international order and stability that they have achieved. But is not clear about the future since the gold being on public land designated "National Park reserved land for wild life" is by law equal property of all American citizens and therefore no one has 'more rights' over 'more quantity' than others. That puts in question all the millionaires and billionaires. Should they receive the RE-EVALUATION STRENGTH of their dollars, according to the dollars they posses or should they receive from fresh as a new start equally as everyone else the same worth. There is no easy answer to the question since either way would make a part of the population very unhappy and ready to go to extremes in all kinds of ways.
But the time will come when it will be beneficial to be used. Now is not that time because if the price of gold won't be made to fall to the level of the value of the copper or aluminum, then would lead to all kinds of other bad things (thousands of different bad things (IF THE PRICE OF GOLD WOULD NOT FALL) then murders and robberies will increase 1000% over, and people would kill each other for any small amount of dollars backed by so much gold which outside the USA would be fortunes, . . . and so on , and on, all kinds of negative bad leading things.
As example: no regular people in the world outside the USA, could afford to buy a single dollar (no, not the regular people) dollar which is backed by so much gold. It also would mean that no country on earth could buy things from the USA or use the American dollars, (but only the USA could buy things (almost anything from any country) so the American dollar could not remain to be used as a normal affordable international currency, which means would be an immense loss of power against the USA if the dollar stops being the 'world wide international currency' as it is today.
It would also lead to the economy collapse while ironically, having a mountain of gold in the country which instead of helping would do more harm, besides that could and would lead too many Americans into becoming "maniacs and idiots when traveling outside the USA, or end kidnapped in much greater numbers than ever before, or killed for their dollars, . . . etc"
while the economy of too many countries and governments would collapse or would be taken over by dictators, and dictators getting multiplied all over the planet. There is no sure answer other than at this point in time, it won't be good at all or beneficial for the USA to use the gold discovered. It is better to fix the economy in normal ways using competent people who are not liberal in spending and keep wasting money with no worthy (good) results.
There are many studies and different conclusions, but most of them show that the insane amount of gold discovered IF DECLASSIFIED, TAKEN and USED today, WILL TOTALLY COLLAPSE THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER PRESENT NOW and most certainly would collapse the USA economy along with the economies of many other countries all over the world.
The studies came to the conclusion that the only beneficial time to declassify and flood the markets and the world with so much gold, so you would pay with a quarter of a Kg of gold, for a bread or a dozen of eggs or for a piece of meat, is when already the USA economy ends collapsed with signs of anarchy starting and government collapsed with anarchists on the street, and the need arise of a huge local military force of order to be raised with payments direct with heavy gold coins, and ONLY THEN gold could become useful,
ONLY THEN the huge amount of gold could not do any extra damage BUT RATHER "REBORN THE COUNTRY washed of hypocrisy and corruption, AND THE ECONOMY "LIGHT FLASH" QUICK RISE BACK EVEN STRONGER THAN EVER. But the bottom of such fall needed by a leader to recruit a huge military force of order against anarchists, hypocrisy and corruption (all existent in some extent today in the USA without a collapse of the economy and without anarchists taking over the streets yet,) that bottom, would lead to the possibility of the rise of a dictator IF NOT WELL CALCULATED AND CAREFUL to clean the country without ending with a dictator. I AUTHORIZE YOU TO COPY THIS COMMENT about fortifying Odesa and the rest of West Ukraine MUCH MORE, and send the advice to Ukrainians & friends before becomes too late.
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Turkey should have NEVER , EVER been received into the NATO and should never be allowed to remain in NATO because Turkey is not a fully democratic country, nor does respect without discrimination the human rights of all people, women as well as Non-Muslim minorities are still persecuted. Turkey is led by Erdogan, an islamic worshiper of Allah "The Deceiver" and "The Best of Deceivers" as Allah calls himself in his own Quran being:
"The Father of Lies" with the titles of Satan from the Bible, being "The Greatest of Deceivers" and of trickery, and "The Destroyer" of human souls: SEE the Quran chapter 3: verse 54 (3:54) , and chapter 8:v30 and in other chapters of the Hadith and of the Quran, in which the titles of Alah having the word "Deceiver" in them (Allah himself claiming those titles and that Allah first and foremost likes to deceive and lead astray before anything else.
Besides Turkey being a great violator of human rights, against women but also against non--muslim minorities men and women even today as we speak, minorities and women being persecuted for ages until present and still persecuted, Turkey spent it's money not buying NATO countries weapons but Russian and made a secret undercover agreements with Russia, and now is trying to please Russia by trying to oppose the access of Finland and Sweden to NATO, when is Turkey itself that does not belong to the European family of Nations and to NATO.
EU members must ask the NATO council to eject Turkey from NATO due to very many reasons besides ongoing violation of human rights even now, and beside having demolished Atheist centers of science learning while have turned Christian Churches into Mosques and financing and exporting Islamic Mosques into countries such as Bulgaria and Romania and many others while refusing permits of maintenance to repair and paint Christian places of worship in Turkey which once was a 99% Atheo-Judeo-Christian country called Byzantium and Corinth, which the Ottoman Turk Muslim empire have invaded, destroyed and killed in genocide all the natives which refused conversion to 'is slam' and changed the name of the country and it's capital from Constantinople to Istanbul.
There are very many and good reasons to eject Turkey out of NATO and move the American military base from Turkey to Bulgaria or Romania which are willing to receive it unless USA prefers Slovakia or Poland. The Turks of the Ottoman Empire who's country's name changed after the 1920's into "Turkey" to mask to escape the responsibility payment for their genocide never paid for; and made against more than 10 countries, against more than 10 million European people, some on which' lands stand now . As example the little piece on the European side which belongs to Greece but is still occupied by Turkey besides Cypress.
The Turks have invaded nine European countries, and many of them constantly for 1000 years until 100 years ago, invaded regularly and forced to pay immense amounts of money in gold, silver and other spoils and robberies of war which the Turks have constantly made , not to mention the genocide against Greece and against more than one million Armenians about 100 years ago.
Armenia last year was forced to ask for help from Russia against Azerbaijan that invaded it's territory which killed many Armenians helped by the Turks with drones, since NATO did not care to intervene on the side of Atheo-Judeo-Christian Armenia, therefore Armenia was forced to ask Russia for help which in exchange had to establish a Russian base.
Turkey did and does "undercover" business with Russia out of pleasure without being forced to buy Russian missiles, yet they did spend their money to end in Russian hands and to not end in European or American hands.
The Ottoman Turks are the same Islamic wolf beast and killer that has always been but are now hiding under the word "Turkey", a different title since 1920's to escape punishment for its genocide made against many European and Non-European nations, in present genocide against the Kurd people still under Turkey's occupation and many of them killed by thousands in Syria by Turks bombing them.
Turkey has invaded, forced into slavery and robbed and raped during the last 1000 years until 1920's, Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Romania, Moldova and parts of Ukraine and even parts of the Southern bottom of Russia, during the 1000 years of Muslim literally thousands of invasions ,robbing towns and villages, pillaging and burning towns and other times just robbing, raping and killing people in those mentioned and invaded countries, burning many, of them, raping women, killing men and often kidnapping girls and children for their harems to depopulate those countries while them to have 3--4 women to multiply themselves faster and to increase their armies and expend and invade more and more and rob more countries.
Thus studies show that if countries like Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, Macedonia would not have been invaded and children, girls and women not have been kidnapped in numbers of millions in the last 1000 years by the Turks, now those countries would have had double to triple populations while Turkey would only have under 30 million citizens now. But they now have over 60 million and very many of them looks as if are Serbs, Romanians, Bulgarians, and so on, because they are the very children, girls and women's grand, grand, grand children kidnapped from those European countries, raped and abused in Turkish harems.
Whoever does not learn and remember the history is bound to repeat it as victims. In today's days, when Muslim invasions doesn't work by force against stronger countries or against countries that have strong allies and friends,, they are invaded with immigrant practicing 'is slam' (is strike / is a fall) against Europe and Americas) coming in your countries to multiply and have four to five times more babies and multiply faster so they could take over using democratic system to overturn it and install 'is slam'
or else Muslim regulations and traditions under a fakes democracy or partial democracy system, favoring islam's muslims, imposing Muslim regulations and traditions to you, like it or not and get you imprisoned or killed if you do not respect their regulations and traditions while the hypocrites do not want to be treated the same in Non-Muslim countries for you to favor your own "Atheo-Judeo-Christian" culture and faith over that of the invading 'is slam' of the Quran of HaSatan'a'Lah (Lucifer). (How is that about being fair and not discriminating?). I know, they are not fair at all but they dwell in hypocrisy. Just go as a Non-muslim in Turkey away from touristic areas where they play 'theater' to get your money, but just go to live as a resident amount them and you will find out how much discrimination and abuse they will practice against you.
If you are a women in Turkey and not careful, you will even risk to be kidnapped, raped and who knows what else. So many women have been kidnapped and raped in so great number in Turkey that there is no Atheo'Judeo'Christian country on earth to be compared with more kidnappings and rapes than Turkey and other islamic countries like Turkey.
Turkey works undercover with the Russians now and will try to please Putin by opposing the entrance in NATO of Finland and Sweden and also because reporters of those countries have reported on the abuses that have multiplied against women and the minorities Non-muslims as well as against the Kurds, since the very islamist Erdogan came in power, jailed much of his opposition and is set on evil against many EU countries in trying hard to export 'is slam'.
TURKEY SHOULD AND ABSOLUTELY MUST BE THROWN OUT OF NATO AND SHOULD RETREAT OUT OF THE INVADED GREEK LAND PIECE OF EUROPE THAT TURKEY HAS BEEN OCCUPIED AND OUT OF CYPRUS which Turkey has invaded not long ago and took it away from Greece AS WELL. OUT WITH ERDOGAN his ISLAM AND HIS SATAN'a'LAH. OUT OF CYPRUS AND OUT OF EUROPE. Finland and Sweden are our own "Atheo-Judeo-Christian" people brothers and sisters and ABSOLUTELY MUST BE WELCOMED AND RECEIVED IN NATO, while Islamic
Turkey must be ejected and thrown out of NATO because have made too many violations, including buying weapons from our enemies from Russia and speaking against our own people Swedish and Finlandeze. * GET TURKEY OUT OF NATO * TURKEY MUST RESPECT EVEN INSIDE TURKEY AND TREAT EQUALLY WOMEN, AND ATHEO-JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PEOPLE without discrimination, before could be received back in NATO. UNTIL THEM TURKEY MUST BE REJECTED FROM NATO.
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