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@Ketowski "Exactly. Interpretation of the data requires a high degree of understanding.
Attempting to apply gross measures with a clear political bias is a major red flag."
I 100% agree, that is what irritated me all throughout covid. People kept looking at only one stat, covid related deaths. That means someone in their 90s with many health conditions dying with covid was listed as a covid death. That skewed the numbers. What we should have done is weigh the numbers.
An example would be to use the actuarial life table, which shows the probability of someone dying in a year. Say you have a 90 year old and they die of covid. We can start by realizing they had an around 17% chance of dying in the year to begin with. Thus, to start they go from one covid death to a 0,83 one. Now if we learn more about them, such as having cancer, or some blood condition, etc., you get different weighing factors.
The person you replied to does bring up good points such as population density (even though they did not know the population of Detroit vs Jacksonville), but here is a point on FL, and other southern states. Their cases spiked in the summer. You may say it was due to relaxing covid restrictions, but the reality is that in southern states people stay indoors more. In northern states like NY and NJ they were hit hard early on in their winter months of March and April where everyone stays indoors more often. In the south people stay indoors more during the summer. I live in TX so I would know.
So was it relaxing policy that lead to the spike? Or was it simply people wanting to enjoy the AC indoors? And even at that the death rate was still low. But this thing became so political, mainly from the left, that people ignored all of that. And this does not even get into the negative outcomes of the lockdowns and closing of schools and businesses and comparing that to covid in itself, something many people ignored due to political bias.
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@ezpzlemonsqueezy90 there is a lot more to it than just saying "public funding". As I said, 70% of fire fighters are volunteer. Some towns have private fire departments. At the local level it is based on what the people want and it varies. If you want to call it socialism then fine, but it is on a small scale and managed by the people, not some central entity whom you will never interact with. I can see first hand if my local tax dollars are being spent well to benefit my community. That as opposed to the federal government taking my tax dollars, where I live in TX, and spending it in California.
In short, you can't compare local spending and local programs to federal ones.
As for public funded healthcare, I do not support it at the federal level. At the local level that is a different discussion, but not at the federal level. We are talking about a federal government who took weeks to pick a speaker of the house. We are talking about a federal government with a president who gets lost on stage. Recall covid when the head of the CDC said we were facing impending doom and then a month later said we can take off our masks, and then a month later told us to put them back on. Yeah, I don't want that controlling our healthcare.
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@darthmarvin247 Sigh......it is not a 400 year old data point. It is a point that a nation needs to control immigration. I have heard many people on the left praise how great Canada is. Canada has very strict immigration laws. If you don't control immigration it creates many problems in our nation. Do you simply allow anyone in your home? Would you allow a group of homeless people in your home? Let me guess, you will say that is a bad example with some lame excuse.
" Still, doesn't change the fact that the people that agreed with your sentiment ended up supporting tiny mustache man."
So I guess you feel the people in Canada are like that.
And yes, you are moving the goal posts. We can get to rhetoric, but we had 4 years of Trump. What we saw was a more peaceful world, the exact opposite of Hitler. We saw a strong economy. But with rhetoric, Trump said on the Ukraine war he wanted people to stop dying. Gee, that does not sound like rhetoric from Hitler. Trump said he wants a strong economy with low inflation and high wages. Gee, that does not sound like Hitler. You are moving the goal posts bud. I called you out on it and now you cry.
And I will ask this again as you refuse to answer, as I know why. Tell me, when has Trump ever ridiculed Biden and Clinton voters as a whole? Please answer that.
Biden has said Trump voters are a threat to democracy. That is calling a group of people a threat. Gee, that does sound like Hitler language. Why don't you call out Biden for that? There were over 70 million Trump voters in 2020 that voted for him for several reasons, and most are good people. To label them all a threat to democracy is divisive and more in line with Hitler. I never hear Trump ridicule Biden voters as a whole.
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@phaZed9 thanks. During Trump's presidency I was receiving my MBA along side my PhD. I had a professor who had us in our first paper look up certain FRED stats and comment on them. His goal was this, it was to show us where we can find valuable stats.
There is more to the economy than job numbers, inflation, and unemployment. You have other issues like labor participation rate, wage growth, homeownership rates, etc. There are a ton of numbers.
:Pakman picks a handful and while yes, more jobs are good, that question is now, what else? Really, the Fed can see this as an excuse to keep interest rates high. In that lowering interest rates too soon can lead to inflation again. And thus, homeownership rates remain low where typically 3/4 of a person's wealth is tied into their home.
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@Law_captain "hmmm single largest mass death event in American history"
That would be the civil war. I assume you are talking about covid. The fact is the death count was overstated. Along with that, there was nothing Trump could have done. He could have done a federal lockdown and mask mandate and you guys would have thrown down your masks and would have been gathering in large crowds in the streets calling Trump a fascist.
"biggest stock market crash since the depression, supply chains massacred"
Again, not Trump's fault that the global elites hated him and decided to shut down the economy. Sweden did not shut down. Sweden is not a part of NATO. Trump was not a threat to Sweden so they were not in on the act. Same with republican governors which is why they opened up their states early.
"division like never before “there is a new kind of, far left fascism” - remember, it was bad when Biden did it"
Trump goes after the elites. Tell me, when has Trump ever ridiculed a Biden voter? Never. Biden called Trump voters a threat to democracy. Clinton called them a group of deplorables. That is division. Trump wanted unity and gave many messages on that.
" $7 trillion added to the debt and it was just tax cuts"
You have to put numbers in perspective. The deficit in percent of GDP under Trump was less than 5%. Under Biden it has been greater than 5% as high as around 8%. Same as under Obama's first 3 years and only dropped because republicans took over the house. Please, learn how to use stats correctly.
" Covid spending which should have been unnecessary if he’d just not lied about the virus. "
How did he lie about the virus? He introduced us to Fauci for us to listen to. To bad too many did and fell for the insanity.
" It’s not shaping up too well is it? "
For you, no as your usual talking points are easily debunked.
"Haven’t even got into the criminality (proven in a court of law so you can’t rely on that if Biden EVER manages to catch a charge) "
Proven what? When? The major cases on Trump are falling apart. Fani is going to be disqualified for being corrupt. The Jack Smith case is taking forever and will eventually get thrown out. Also, those cases are all political.
As for the airport statement, Trump gives many interviews almost every day. He is traveling all the time and giving interviews. He will make a slipup here and there. Biden, since becoming president, has given 86. Obama and Trump have given 466 and 300, respectively in the same timeframe. And when Biden does speak he mumbles, claims to have spoken to dead people, loses his train of thought, etc. And this does not even get into Biden's fail policies leading us down poor economic times. Inflation went up again in January. How is that "inflation reduction act" working out for you?
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@JoshBeards " Amendment 14, Section 3 doesn't require you "charge" anyone. Again, where in 14:3 does it say "charge," "indict," "convict," "sentence?" It says, "engage" or "given aid and comfort.""
It is implied via the due process clause. What is your standard on if someone engage or given aid and comfort? Just someone's words? That is what you are going by. .No need for placing someone under oath, or hearing testimonies, and allow both parties to ask questions and give their statements. No need for all of that. Just someone saying "well gee, I think Biden engaged in an insurrection, I am just going to kick him off the ballot".
How would you feel if the Georgia secretary of state removed Biden from the ballot? That is a swing state.
" Civil requires at least 51% proof of the connection and no intent. "
What do you define as proof? What is your standard? You can make anything proof by your standard.
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@JoshBeards no, I am just going by your standard. You said at the beginning
"Amendment 14, Section 3 doesn't require you "charge" anyone. Again, where in 14:3 does it say "charge," "indict," "convict," "sentence?" It says, "engage" or "given aid and comfort." "
Ok, so I say the word "proof" is not in there, nor evidence. So you don't need evidence or proof.
"Under your still born logic, no law needs proof or evidence since no law literally states, "proof" or "evidence." "
In the legal system evidence is used a lot. However, we are talking about an amendment here, not laws. If you want to start talking talking about laws then we go back to my standard of due process, and a conviction is needed. In which you will say "conviction is not in the 14th amendment". Where I will go back and say the same thing about proof and evidence.
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@ctpaul1261 ok, each point
1. Many people "dodge the draft" including Biden. It was common. This is a non issue and really begs the question of the draft in general. But again, Biden "dodged the draft"
2. When? Please explain and give context
3. When? please explain and give context
4. When? Please explain and give context
5. When? Please explain and give context
6. The birther issue was started by Clinton
7. When did he say to inject bleach?
8. The impeachment were purely political. Also, this can bring up a big discussion on immunity and how to punish a president.
9. Not found guilty
10. Not found guilty
11. What?
12. He had a low approval rating from day one. His approval rating was around 40% from the beginning. Biden's approval rating was over 60% at day one and dropped. Look at the big picture
13. Bankruptcies is common for people in his position. Warren Buffet had many businesses go bankrupt. With failure comes success. Many people, like you, refuse to take risk in life. When you take risk you will see failure, but you will see success. Also, explain Proterra where tax payers' dollars went there and that company went bankrupt. At least with Trump it was private dollars. Under Biden he used taxpayers' dollars to bankrupt a company.
14. When? At what context?
15. Give me more details. I guess I he could have attended it and kept checking his watch like Biden did during the funeral of soldiers.
16. Not true, but go ahead and believe a lie
17. I mean, the economy is crashing under Biden
18. Care to give a reference and context?
Please, stop being a fascist.
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@ctpaul1261 I have responded to that, but here
1. Many people "dodge the draft" including Biden. It was common. This is a non issue and really begs the question of the draft in general. But again, Biden "dodged the draft"
2. When? Please explain and give context
3. When? please explain and give context
4. When? Please explain and give context
5. When? Please explain and give context
6. The birther issue was started by Clinton
7. When did he say to inject bleach?
8. The impeachment were purely political. Also, this can bring up a big discussion on immunity and how to punish a president.
9. Not found guilty
10. Not found guilty
11. Very common all around.
12. No he did not.
13. He had a low approval rating from day one. His approval rating was around 40% from the beginning. Biden's approval rating was over 60% at day one and dropped. Look at the big picture
14. Bankruptcies is common for people in his position. Warren Buffet had many businesses go bankrupt. With failure comes success. Many people, like you, refuse to take risk in life. When you take risk you will see failure, but you will see success. Also, explain Proterra where tax payers' dollars went there and that company went bankrupt. At least with Trump it was private dollars. Under Biden he used taxpayers' dollars to bankrupt a company.
15. They are not good countries. Doesn't matter what race lives there.
16. He did not attend those funerals because it was raining. Also, when Biden attended the funeral of dead soldiers he was there checking his watch like a child.
17. He has condemned white supremacy many times.
18. When? At what context? Also, the economy is bad.
19. He did drain the swamp. Also, what president ever accomplishes what they say they would do? Biden said he would eliminate the virus. He did not. He said he would unite the nation, he did not.
20. Not true. That bill was not an GOP endorsed bill. A few republicans endorsed it, but most opposed it. The House has their own version that democrats opposed. Also, Biden can enforce existing laws to control the border.
21. At the time the central park 5 were guilty and a lot of evidence showed that.
22. When?
23. Ok, sure. That will stop shoplifters. What is wrong with that?
24. When?
25. Never stole them. Also, Biden stole many, had them laying out in plain site in many locations and joked about it.
26. He has never made that claim
27. That was because democrats literally shut down the economy.
28. It was not an insurrection. That is why he has never been charged with inciting an insurrection.
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@brianm7109 here, you seem to lack a lot of experience in life, so here is a comparison. Currently in my company we have a lab that we built. We are out of space already and we have issues with power. So we are trying to find a new location. We are ranked in the top 100 in the Forbes 400 ranking. We have 160,000 employees globally. However, to get a new lab it will take well over a year. First to find a location, then go through all the finances, then to find a contractor to set it up, then moving things, etc. But the biggest barrier is finding a place first and finding money in the budget which, again, takes a year. And this will be for a lab where only 4 people work at, so not a large one.
So same thing in Trump asking for a half a billion dollar loan in a few days, it won't happen. Again, Mark Cuban who is no Trump supporter is defending Trump here.
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@Ectava the lockdowns and mandates did lead to depression. People do many things in their life to be happy. Working out, seeing friends, dong hobbies. That is healthy for the brain. What isn't healthy is isolating yourself at home.
Mask mandates did harm people as it was a negative symbol placed on us. And not seeing people smile is negative to society..
I had no problem if you wanted to wear a mask, I had friends do it before covid. We had problems when you called us names for not doing it. I had a colleague of mine flip me off because I refused to wear a mask and then told the administration on me about it.
"It would have been immensely helpful if social media sites had all cracked down on Covid posts"
Which is censorship. But that aside I feel social media is damaging to our nation in general which is why I do not have any social media account.
"Look, I get it. You don't understand Psychology. "
I do. It was damaging on me. Depression runs in my family. I was able to avoid it because I am highly active. I go to the gym, I am a sports official, I volunteer at schools, etc. That was stripped from me. Even my advisor noticed how irritated I was not being to live the active lifestyle I enjoy. Putting people in isolation has been looked at many times and has shown to have bad mental outcomes. Or with education, least resistant environment (LRE) is known to be the best route for a kid's education. That is psychology right there that you appear to know nothing about.
Take education. I was working in a special needs class and one student was able to play with her friends during recess but could not be in the same classroom as her. Because of the change of scheduling during her recess time it differed from her friends. She cried because of it. Now imagine that kids, and many others like her experiencing that for a year. They become damaged.
"You also don't understand virus mutation and progression. "
I 100% do understand that. That is why there was evidence of immunity from SARS-COV-1, that was published in an article in Science in May of 2020. While it mutates the genetic sequence is still very similar. That is also how some vaccines worked, such as cow pox made people immune to small pox.
"We could have had a much easier time with Covid had people just obeyed the mandates and the lockdowns for around a year."
We were told it was supposed to last 15 days. And during that time there was no light given at the end of the tunnel. What talks of natural immunity started it was shot down by the media, the CDC and Fauci. Fauci kept saying things are bad, no talks of things are improving (such as natural immunity). Many people just threw in the towel and went back to life.
As for the new variants, that was going to happen regardless as it would have mutated in animals.
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@beapower7045 they are vague as there are many factors. There is a lot more to the economy than just jobs or who was the president. As I said, we have Congress and we have states.
"but if you want to focus on the most recent Republican presidency, the 45th president left office with fewer Americans employed than when he entered office. (Unfortunately, he froze in the face of a deadly pandemic & mishandled his responsibility to keep the country safe so badly that over twice as many American citizens died under his watch than in all of World War I & World War II combined.) "
Sigh....really? You are going to go down that route? To start, what could have Trump done differently? For you guys calling Trump a dictator he did all he could do with covid and that was to leave it up to the state. At the beginning he was suggesting he had authority on how to approach it and was criticized. He learned legally he was limited and states were to decide. He did not become a dictator and force federal mandates. In fact, if he would have done a federal lockdown and a federal mask mandate you guys would have thrown down your masks and gathered in large crowds in the streets calling him a fascist. You can't blame Trump for job lost when democrats kept the lockdowns going.
In fact, on jobs, states that open up early like FL, GA and TX reached their pre-covid employment levels sooner compared to states like CA, NY, MI and MN which kept their lockdowns going. For example, FL reached their pre-covid nonfarm employment by Sept. of 2021. NY, it was around March of 2022. Now what about the great state of MN ran by VP candidate Walz? They reached their pre-covid employment numbers by April of 2023, one of the slowest states to have their jobs recovered. These stats are available on FRED.
And that leads to another point. When states like FL, GA and TX opened up early and saw their economies recovered, you guys said they were causing more deaths. So what did you want? DId you want Trump to demand lockdowns to "save lives"? Well, bye bye jobs. Did you want Trump to demand to end lockdowns to save jobs? Well, you guys would have said he was promoting more deaths. To you no matter what he did you guys would have criticized him.
As for " & mishandled his responsibility to keep the country safe so badly that over twice as many American citizens died under his watch than in all of World War I & World War II combined."
The average age of death in those were was in the lower 20s, as in 21. The typical death in war were young, healthy men with the potential of life for decades. The typical person dying with covid was someone who was very old or very unhealthy, or both with high risk of death and thus a had a high chance of dying in a short time to begin with. So you can't compare.
"The US economy does objectively better under Democratic leadership & the numbers prove it."
Except you provided nothing. You say "look at BLS" but give no specifics. I say bring up recent history and in doing so you focus on the "pandemic" when it were democrats that kept pushing the lockdowns and that was saw in that their states had slowest recovery compared to states with republican governors with Minnesota having one of the slowest recovery. So you have to look at a very unique situation to try to prove your point. It shows you have nothing. But again, you are comparing deaths of young, healthy men in war to deaths of a disease where those deaths were of older, much less healthier people. Bad comparison.
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@paulaadams1765 stop fearmongering over project 2025, it is nothing.
Under Trump worker participation rate was growing where prior years it was dropping. According to FRED Under Trump the number of iron and still mill workers was rising where under Obama it was dropping. The max under Biden is still lower than the max under Trump. Fact is people were working under Trump.
Yes, Trump will bring down inflation. Inflation was low under Trump, that is the reality. As for the deficit, the deficit as percent of GDP, according to FRED, was less than 5%. Under Biden it has been greater than 5% and rising.
Please, go on, you are making this too easy for me. Also, every politicians is a narcissist to a degree, you have to be to get to that level in politics.
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@DoctorBiobrain "Colorado and Maine aren’t taking Trump’s life, liberty, or property;"
They are depriving him of liberty, the liberty to run on the ballot in the presidential primaries. He did not break any law, mainly Colorado or Maine law. If he broken a federal law he would be tried in a federal court which he has not. So yes, they are depriving him of liberty and they are not treating him equal in accordance to the law.
". And that’s the same as if a noncitizen tried to run for president and was denied."
That is different. Being a citizen or not is an absolute. Same with age. Whether or not someone broke a law requires due process and is not a clear in many ways.
"You just made up the part that they require a jury trial to remove him from the ballot. Convicting him of insurrection requires due process, not this. "
Not true. On what legal grounds do they have to remove him from the ballot? What laws did he break, was charged with and found guilty of? Nothing. Especially Colorado law. If he committed an insurrection on the federal government that would be a federal situation and require a federal trial, something Colorado has no jurisdiction over. Thus, Colorado had no case here which is why there was no charge, not plea deal, no jury selection, etc.
So he did not break any Colorado law, thus the courts of Colorado have no say in this.
"I mean, I remember when they invented a new rule so Bush could win in 2000 and said it was just a one-time rule that wouldn’t apply again. "
What new rules did they invent? Also, in the 2000 election Gore acted the same way Trump did as well in the 2020 election. They gave him his recount where it went to Bush. The election went on long enough.
"You say we can’t have fifty states with their own laws, but that’s the system we have. You can thank the Founding Fathers for that. As a liberal in Texas, I’d love to have laws that protected our right to vote better but our system allows each state to make their own election laws. And in this case, Maine and Missouri have different laws. "
I support state rights, but every state has to follow the Constitution. A big part of that is due process. Trump did not break any law in CO and ME and thus they have no charges on him nor any case on him. Therefore they can't just make a claim on him and deny him equal protection under the law. I feel that is going to be one thing ruling in Trump's favor. In that the CO judge gave an opinion that has no legal standing because it was not CO law they were discussing but a federal issue.
"But the Constitution does say impeachment requires high crimes and misdemeanors. But you guys now think that means anything a Democrat does that you don’t like, which can be practically anything"
But you don't need to be convicted of a crime. It is the House votes on it, and then 2/3 of the Senate confirms for removal.
" Trump got impeached twice for crimes"
What crimes? What was he convicted of? Nothing. So this comes back to you can say Biden committed a crime and that is all you need. Democrats said Trump committed crimes even though he was never found guilty of any but still impeached him.
". It’s so weird that people want this"
Many people on the right don't. A big reason why so many voted for Trump was because they were sick of this game of political division. You impeach my guy, I will impeach yours, and back and forth. I hate that, I really do. But to me the political left has gone insane.
For years with the left I have heard them say they are for the people. But here you go, you have Trump, who did not criticize Clinton or Biden supporters. He criticized Clinton and Biden and the liberal elites.
Meanwhile, you have Clinton calling Trump voters a group of deplorables and Biden calling Trump voters a threat to democracy. Clinton and Biden attack the people creating division. Trump attacks the elites, mainly the liberal elites. But you are so stuck on team politics you call Trump a "criminal lunatic".
This is what completely blows my mind in all of this. In the most recent elections you have
Obama: Telling successful people, even small business owners that they did not build it
Romney: Saying 47% of Americans do not pay federal taxes so he does not have to worry about them
Clinton: Clinton calling Trump voters group of deplorables
Biden: Calling Trump voters a threat to democracy
Those are hard working Americans going about their lives being attacked by presidential candidates and presidents.
Trump does not criticize the people. He does not criticize you if you voted for Biden or Clinton. He goes after Biden. He goes after the liberal elites. But not the people.
Tell me, how can you not see that?
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@Commenting-answering " It is ridiculous to say world leaders respect Trump. The United Nations attendees laughed in his face. "
They do respect him, at least ones like Putin and Kim do. They know Trump will actually attack back if they get out of line. That is why Putin did not invade Ukraine under Trump, he did under Biden. Under Trump there were two years where Kim did not launch any missiles. Under Biden N Korea is close to attacking S Korea. Trump was not friends with those people. He understood who they were.
As for the UN so call laughing at Trump, that is 100% not true. Trump made a comment about the US economy where after that there were some murmurs. In which Trump cracked a joke and then people laughed. People laughed at Trump's joke.
"I guess you mean Putin and Trump’s North Korean lover. "
Already explained to you on that. Trump mocked Kim in saying that not only is his missile button is bigger, it actually works. With Putin he was trying to bring Russia into the western world as the culture was changing there. The older culture still had the communist mindset, but the younger culture did not. NATO is corrupt and opposed it. NATO wanted division where Trump wanted unity. When Biden became president NATO told Putin not to invade Ukraine. Putin just laughed and did it anyway.
This is similar to when Trump made a comment in how Germany needed to stop being so dependent on Russia for oil and the German leaders laughed. Well, they are not laughing now as they are pushing to open mines as they now need energy as they cannot get it from Russia.
"Trump says the same words over and over, lies, and talks in one big run on sentence."
Every politician says the same thing over and over again.
" You deserve what you worship"
I don't worship anything. I can think for myself. That as opposed to you guys who blindly obeyed what the liberal elites tell you to do. Heck, they told you to stay home and wear a mask and you did so without question.
"Biden supporters don’t need rallies. "
Because you are too scared and lazy to go outside. That is why your sense of reality is what you see on social media as opposed to actually experiencing it.
"We vote."
You mail in ballots and vote the way the liberal elites tell you to.
I mean, it is so sad that you never step outside of your own home and experience actual reality. I hate staying at home. As such I see what really goes on in the world. That is why I do not support Biden.
But whatever, enjoy a sad lonely life hiding at home.
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@chrisg8767 not missing anything. You have to ask yourself why 90% of chips are not manufactured outside of the US? Maybe because of bad trade policy in the past? Obama wanted to increase solar panel production, and spent money on it. But he did not impose a tariff on China for their production. Results? A bad investment on Obama. Trump imposed a tariff on steel with China. Results? According to FRED we saw an increase in steel production in the US where years prior it was falling.
My point on bringing up illegal immigrants is that your comment is about you jumping up and down calling people like me hypocrites for buying products made overseas when in the big picture I really have no choice. I wish I did but I don't.
"Why do you suppose the majority of them do that? Seems to me it's to do a lot of the crappy work (migrant produce collection, slaughterhouse work, etc) that many red-blooded Americans seem to feel is beneath them. So perhaps instead of wringing your hands and pounding your chest about the illegal immigrants, you should look to the companies that are only too glad to employ them."
Sigh......this myth. That is not happening. Also, I find it funny how you see these illegals are modern day slaves. Man you leftists never changes. Democrats opposed ending slavery in the 1800s and they support it now.
"Also, on the subject of illegal immigrants, I assume that you'd be willing to acknowledge that, legal or not, those people purchase goods and services in their local economies, contributing to sales tax revenue. So by all means, rather than coming up with a path to citizenship, let's spend billions of dollars to deport people who are working the shit jobs that no one else wants to work and who are also helping fund their communities through sales tax revenue."
Sigh.....again, another myth. Wow, they buying a loaf of bread sure stimulates the economy as opposed to someone buying a home and paying property taxes. Or the fact that you have them driving around without insurance causing my car insurance to go up. Fact is they end up costing that nation more.
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@jaredrosenberg4965 over nearly a decade Pakman has been saying that Trump is losing it. That he has dementia, that he is losing supporters, that he will go to prison, etc. But here we are. At some point Pakman needs to give it up, but he does have a following of idiots.
Answer this, at what point will any of your predictions about Trump come true? If Pakman was correct Trump would be confused constantly due to dementia, be in prison, and would have been destroyed in the election. Instead he won every swing state and received more votes than Harris, he sounds fine, and he is not in prison. Oh, and this was after for years claiming Biden was sharp mentally.
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@Richard-sy1ej I can give credit where credit is due, I will look into that tax law deeper to get a full story. I am not seeing an actual rate of deduction nor the actual law in full, and even with several deductions, there is still a cost of doing business. It isn't that if you hire a person it isn't like the tax deduction offset the cost of hiring an employee. I have made that point in other comments. So I can admit I am wrong on salaries being tax deductible, and I left the possibility open. It does not offset the fact that in the end there will be a cost.
"Yes, there are costs associated with running a business. Which is why business expenses, such a hiring an employee, should increase income by more than the expense amount."
I agree
"In fact, you've now just realized and confirmed Pakman's point that basing a hiring decision on a tax rate, rather than their ability to provide a net gain in income, would indicate a gross lack of business understanding on the part of the commenter he was engaging with originally"
Again, completely false all around. I have said that in the end, even with a tax deduction there is still a cost in hiring an employee. I made the comparison of a company car. A company car is tax deductible. But in the end you are still paying for gas, insurance, the car itself, maintenance, etc. Even with a tax deduction if you can't afford all of that you cannot afford a company car.
Same with this employer. Even with a tax deduction they still could not afford an employee until another the Trump tax cuts came in which now they have enough income to afford the employee.
That is a concept you are completely ignoring that I have brought up many times and Pakman also ignored as well. Even with the tax deduction, they still could not afford an employee. The Trump tax cuts allowed them to do it.
Is that so hard to understand?
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@Richard-sy1ej I will give you another example on my part. I am a sports official doing high school and college in two sports. One I do lower level college with the hopes to move up to DI and make actual money. As such I am an independent contractor. I get a 1099 every year. I know my tax breaks I get. Mileage on my car going to games, if I buy shoes, a gym membership, etc. To move up I go to these camps to get training as also get looked at by supervisors to get hired. They cost money. Went to one recently, $900 plus airfare and car.
If my income tax, or property tax, or even sales taxes were lowered I would have more money to invest in those camps to get noticed more. I could have money to hire a personal trainer and nutritionist to be healthy and athletic on the field, a desire by supervisors at the higher level. I can pay for a large TV to watch game film in higher quality. That flow of money is not associated with the games I work and I get a 1099 for. However, if taxes were lower in other aspect of my life, I will have more income to divert to sports officiating.
So even with all the tax breaks I can do as an independent contractor, I am still limited in funds due to taxes and expenses in other aspects of my life.
Same with this business owner. Sure, hiring an employee may lead to a tax deduction, but it will not offset the cost of hiring them in general. And due to other expenses they could not afford one. They could not afford one until the tax cuts which gave them more resources to now hire one.
Here you are siding with Pakman for calling the guy stupid while not realizing there are many moving parts here. Say you lowered that guy's property tax, now they have income to invest elsewhere.
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@martiboxwell9680 "Do you know how to use google? Heres what you need to do. Google which party raises taxes and which party lowers taxes."
Uh, the whole "google it" argument. Instead of you providing me actual sources you simply tell me to google it. It is all becoming so clear now. What should I google? Daily Wire?
It is sad but you are acting like Pakman and Richard now. You are grossly oversimplifying a complex issue. And in doing so you are telling me to "google it".
Here, you want to talk about jobs and political party. Look up in FRED.....well wait......do you know what FRED is? It is the Federal Reserve Economic Data with data coming from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. It has a lot of comprehensive data related to the economy. In one of my MBA courses we had to look up data on FRED and write about it. The point of the project was to know where to find reliable data.
Anyway, that aside, look up in FRED All Employees: Total Nonfarm by state. You can by typing " FRED All employees: total nonfarm by _____". Look up states like FL, TX and GA and compare to MI, NY and CA and look at their pre-covid and post covid numbers. Which states reached their pre-covid numbers first? Spoiler alert, they were FL, TX and GA. What party were their governors?
You tell me to educate myself when all you tell me to do is "google it" without giving me any specific sources to look at. Along with that there are many other factors beyond jobs at play. Wages, interest rates, cost of living, etc. Fun fact, if you look up "Homeownership Rate in the United States" in FRED look at the trend. From 2008 to 2016 ti dropped around 6%. Under Trump it grew around 5%. Again, I am pointing you to a specific source as opposed to the vague "google it" you tell me to do. Jobs are great, but if cost of living is high along with pay being low it is irrelevant. In the 70s job growth was high, so was inflation. It eventually led to stagflation.
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@Richard-sy1ej
I can admit when I am wrong when new information comes to me. In fact, I have stated in my comments I could have been wrong. I am open to change. I am willing to learn here and not be hard headed.
I am not trying to pivot anything because my stance still stays as I have said many times, even with a tax deduction the owner cannot simply afford a new employee. I gave you the example of a company car. You have tax deductions on that. But in the end you are still paying. You are still seeing a net loss. I have stated that from the beginning. That even with a tax deduction there will still be a net loss.
Please, if we are going to have a civil conversation here, present my argument fairly.
"Pakman was literally saying that salaries were deductible and you came in strong saying "THAT'S NOT TRUE PAKMAN BAD!", without actually doing the research. Thus half the justification for your position is gone"
Sigh.....again, present my side of the argument fairly. My reasoning for Pakman being a jerk was that he wrote to the guy that salaries are tax deductible and that you need demand to hire people. And he ended saying it was sad that people did not know that. He is saying that business owner does not know those two things without even knowing him in general. And thus calling that business owner stupid.
Answer these two questions.
1. How does Pakman know that guy does not know that salaries are tax deductible?
2. How does Pakman know that guy is not seeing high demand where another employee will help?
Please, answer those two questions and you will see why Pakman is being a jerk.
"Second, again, all you've done when talking about business expenses is to actually prove Pakman's point. A successful business is going to make sure that when they add a new expense (even a deductible one), then the income generated from that expense should be paid for in full via the income that expense generates. If I hire a new employee and that costs me $80k a year, then if I'm not generating $80k of profit off that hire, then WHY would I hire that employee?"
I 100% agree. What have I written that suggests otherwise? Please quote anything I written. I have written from the beginning that even with a tax deduction hiring an employee cost money. And if they can't afford it they won't hire. As I said with a company car. It has tax deductions. But even with that it has a cost. I did not prove Pakman's point. My issue with Pakman was that he was being a jerk.
Actually you are proving my point. Why does Pakman feel this business owner does not have the demand? Why does Pakman feel that after the tax cuts it is now worth it to hire a new employee? Why are you ignoring these points?
"That was Pakman's point, and the way you're essentially repeating that without realizing it only reinforces that he was correct - which undermines your second argument against him, and thus your entire argument against him is gone."
Sigh.....it doesn't undermine my argument because again, my point is that Pakman was being a jerk. He was saying that you need demand to hire as if that business owner was not seeing the demand. And Pakman said it is sad that people do not know that when that business owner most likely does know that. Pakman is making a claim about the business owner without knowing anything about him.
"Finally, as an additional point, the biggest tax cut that occurred under Donald's proclaimed tax cuts was for corporate tax rates*. This person's small business almost certainly does *not fall under that banner, and as such would have seen much less difference as a result of the law. Furthermore, the tax rate cuts for everything EXCEPT corporate tax rates revert at the end of 2025 - so this guy would be right back in the same (theoretical) problem situation at that time."
What makes you think the business owner does not know that and is looking 4 or 5 steps ahead? That in hiring new employees he had a plan set up? Now you are acting like Pakman here as you feel that this business owner does not know any of this.
"The poster Pakman was talking to ran away when faced with facts and brought up stuff completely irrelevant to the conversation"
No, he left because Pakman was a jerk by calling him stupid for supposedly not knowing certain thing and making an assumption about his business. Are you that dense to not see that? How do you respond to what Pakman wrote? Pakman drew a conclusion about that man and their business by stating that man does not know that salaries are tax deductible and saying that man does not have the demand to hire more employees. So how do you respond to that? You don't.
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@728huey yes, we were still at war, but no new wars. Also you had the Abrahams Accord progressing peace in the middle east. Under Biden we have two new wars.
The tariffs on China helped the economy as it brought jobs home. And his tax cuts benefits the middle and lower class. There were zero tax cuts on the wealth. And his tax cuts on corporations simply put our rate comparable to European nations.
As for covid, how did he mishandle it? What could have have done? Please explain.
As for Biden, funny how Russia did not invade Ukraine under Trump but does under Biden. Trump seemed to had that under control. As for Israel/Palestine, funny how Trump was progressing peace in the Middle East with the Abrahams Accord and cut funding to Iran. Biden gave Iran money and Iran attacks other nations.
Economically Biden has been a disaster. High inflation, low worker participation rate, stagnant wages, stagnant homeownership rate. And please, stop with the corporate greed excuse. I mean, are you saying corporations are greedy under Biden but were not under Trump? Gee, I guess we need Trump back.
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@brianharris9949 I feel the same way about republican first ladies. I am looking at more current situations. Keep them out of the spotlight unless they are doing some sort of work for the administration.
There is little to no evidence Trump cheated on Melania. And how is Trump not a good human being? He was praised by Jesse Jackson for doing great work for the black community. When Jennifer Hudson's family was murder he gave her protection in one of his hotel. Trump did not have to run for president, he is doing so because the country is a mess. Many here feel Trump is a bad person because he says mean things about the liberal elites, like calling Clinton Crooked Hilary, or calling Joe Sleepy Joe. Well, what about when Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables? Or when Joe called them a threat to democracy.
There are many reasons why I support Trump, but number one is that in an atmosphere where we are so divided because the elites attack the people, especially the liberal elites like the examples I gave you, Trump attacks the elites. Point to me a time when Trump has ever ridicule Biden or Clinton voters as a whole? We can kind of push the first ladies aside here, but during the debate Joe said that Trump voters, if they knew about Trump and were voting for him, are a threat to democracy, and Jill praised Joe for him doing well during the debate. How is calling average Americans, who have little to no power to defend themselves from the elites, a threat to democracy good character?
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@robinsnest7627 with rape you are talking about an extreme situation. We are talking about a situation similar to self defense. Just like I can't murder someone, but if someone attacks me I can defend myself against the attacker. With you jumping to the extreme case of rape says something about you at this point. You want to avoid a discussion and go to the extreme.
With your next case you are talking about a what if. In many cases you truly do not know the situation with the baby and the mother. That is why that is a difficult legal case to battle. It is similar to other situations in healthcare where the medication Vioxx was banned because it increased the risk of heart attacks. But it cured pain very well for the elderly. Should Vioxx be legal?
As for not harming anyone, abortions can harm communities. To me I find it sick that so many here are willing to vote for Biden to supposedly allow women to freely kill their babies at will and be open about it when our economy sucks. Also, after Roe was overturned abortion is still legal in most states. And with states that have restrictions, that is what the people want, and you can always go to another state. After Roe was overturned nothing really changed with abortion in the big picture, but people are freaking out over nothing and want to live in a bad economy. Sad. Also, sad where our morals have gone in this nation.
So this idea that it does not harm others is false. You do not know my stance on abortion. I bet you think I am against it. Actually I support rare, safe and legal. But with what I am seeing now is sick. People seem to be praising abortion.
As for you so call questionnaire, asking people if they support abortion is a very vague question. As I said, I assume you felt I opposed it. I support rare safe and legal. I also support keeping it to yourself and if you do it a lot then you are a bad person. People have limits. Also, you saying to just ask women is flawed. We are a community. I personally do not want to live with anyone, man or woman, who is so open to killing. That is why men get a say in this as well.
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@Power_to_the_people567 "The Colorado courts concluded that Trump participated in insurrection."
If you read the tone of the decision, that was 4-3 vote, there was a lot of ambiguity where basically the CO SC is saying that they need to make a decision but ultimately the higher court need to decide. This level of legal actions have never been tested.
"You have no argument to refute that fact. Even Trumps lawyers couldn’t defeat that fact."
I do. Trump never told people to go violently. He told them to go peacefully. This is why no one has been charged with an insurrection to begin with, including Trump.
As is there is a good chance the US supreme court will overrule this in a 9-0 voting. Most likely 7-2 due to Jackson's and Sotomayor's hatred toward Trump. But great chance it will be 9-0.
"Currently the question that is going to the supreme court is wether or not Trump has absolute immunity. Nowhere is being questioned whether he participated in insurrection or not. Thats not the question going to the supreme court because Colorado already established that he did. "
100% not true. Trump was never charged. He was not given a trial with a plea, jury selection, questioning, witnesses, etc. Thus, on legal grounds, Trump has not participated in an insurrection. Justice Samour wrote
"President Trump was not offered the opportunity to request a jury of his peers; experts opined about some of the facts surrounding the January 6 incident and theorized about the law"
So yes, it is the question on if Trump participated in an insurrection. In fact, that case on Trump that he did is so weak, and really not there, which is why no one has charged him and tried to take him to court on it because it will fail.
"Notice how Trumps lawyers are not using as a defense that he did not participate in insurrection for the most part? Their argument is that he has “absolute presidential immunity”."
No, the lawyers did make the argument that Trump did not participate in an insurrection. One of the arguments against Trump is that he said "fight". One of Trump's lawyers played videos of Biden, Harris and Waters using "violent rhetoric" while grilling Peter Simi. So if one is going to say Trump promoted violence and an insurrection, so did Biden, Harris and Waters. And again, Trump told them to go peacefully.
"Therefore, he did participate in insurrection against the United States when he gave aid and comfort to those that rioted the capitol in the middle of the vote to certify the election. "
How did he give aid and comfort? Also, how was Jan 6th an insurrection? No guns. No one died except one rioter. In a few hours they left. That is not an insurrection.
"He lost 60 cases where he challenged the election results and he still decided to go against the courts."
What is your point? You can't challenge things in court?
"We have hundreds of hours of testimony from people in his own inner circle and his staff testifying under oath that Trump knew what he was doing"
They are questionable which is why, once again, there are zero charges on Trump saying he participated in an insurrection. Two big problems with them. One, a lot of them were along the lies of "well, Bob told me that he heard from Jill that Trump; did this". No direct witnesses. Next, none of those witnesses were crossed examine nor had to answer questions from Trump's defense team in court during a trial.
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@Chess4lyfe uh, yes it does. Here is the full quote
"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even though found in the Constitution. Our great "Founder" did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
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What jet lag? He was back in camp David practicing days before the debate. Also, his job is to travel a lot, especially internationally. He should be up to flying overseas in a jet and then giving a speech, or meeting with leaders. That is why being president is a hard job, it requires a lot of work thus you need someone that can do it.
Also, him having a cold, again, he should be able to work through it as president. Also, what happened to public health? Afterwards he was shaking hands with the moderators. Remember covid? Didn't we learn about the importance of public health and not spreading diseases?
And Joe is honest? Really? He lies constantly. He lied during that debate. He said border patrol supports him, they don't. He says no American soldier died under his presidency, that is a lie. That is why we have low enrollment numbers in military, people don't respect him, especially after the vaccine mandate and him checking his watch during the funerals of soldiers.
How would Trump be a dictator? We saw 4 years under him and he did not become a dictator. Biden on the other hand is. Biden tries to sidestep Congress and the courts to push through the vaccine mandate and student loan forgiveness. Trump wants to dismantle federal agencies which will reduce the powers of the executive branch giving more powers to the states and thus the people.
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@dash9087-d9d Trump didn't deflect. China was not launching spy balloons under Trump, they were under Biden. Saying Xi is smart is not underestimating him. Trump never praised Xi, he was honest about him. Xi is smart and he is a dictator. Also, remember, Trump wasn't the one who cleaned up San Fran for Xi's visit. And there are evil people in the US. Remember covid and all the evil things the democrats did there? They shut down businesses and schools. They were giving out fines to people who simply wanted to get back to normal. After covid I saw a lot of evil people.
With Kim Trump put him in his place. He mocked him with the missile button saying his actually worked. And him visiting N Korea was great. The thing is that when you alienate a powerful leader like Kim and Putin they will lash out. Trump was visiting and talking to them working to establish a connection where other world leaders were dismissing them. The latter is how war starts. Remember 9/11? Many people said the terrorists attacked us because they hated our freedom. No, they attacked us because we invaded their land, spit on their culture and lives and dismissed them. Putin invaded Ukraine because one, Biden is weak, and two, Biden and the rest of the world was calling him evil and ridiculing his country and their culture.
There is a reason why the world was a more peaceful place under Trump. That is how you have to work with people. Trump talking to Kim, Xi and Putin does not mean he wants to be a dictator. Also, what you have to understand is that the people in those countries, that is all they know. You know what will happen if you gave the people of N Korea the freedom we have in the US? They will go insane and not know how to handle it. You can't just change a culture like that. Yes, those guys are dictators, but the people who live there that is what they know. You can't just change culture. That is why we are seeing problems in Springfield, Ohio, you let 10s of thousands of immigrants in a a small city with completely different cultures it will cause problems.
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@Lethgar_Smith "Well, on legal grounds, a judge determined that he did."
That is irrelevant because that is not due process. A judge can't just say someone is guilty. They can make a claim that someone committed a crime, but that has no legal standing. In fact, that can lead to a judge being removed from a case and trial. In fact, the Colorado Code of Judicial Conduct can lead to the dismissal of a judge in a case if there is an interested or prejudiced with respect to the case, parties, or counsel.
There has been no trial, no investigation by the state of Colorado, no hearing. Thus the judge can make no ruling. All the judge did was give their opinion which has no legal standing beyond showing prejudice.
"Your claim of "That never occurred there" is not supported by any facts. You are making factual claims based entirely on your feelings of outrage and not on actual legal jurisprudence. "
But it is based on facts. You are saying judges can be dictators (ironic here) and just make any ruling they want.
"These rulings can and will be appealed. On what grounds are you claiming a miscarriage of justice? Have you read the judge's ruling? Have you read the Colorado Supreme Court ruling? "
I have. My claim is based on the 5th and 6th amendments, both amendments you keep ignoring. Your argument is
"Well this one judge said it is so, so it must be"
Which holds no water. The chief justice of the CO SC said
"From my perspective, just because a hearing was held and (Trump) participated, it doesn’t mean that due process was observed,"
And Justice Samour wrote
"President Trump was not offered the opportunity to request a jury of his peers; experts opined about some of the facts surrounding the January 6 incident and theorized about the law,"
Funny how this is leading to me now quoting what justices are actually saying where you are just saying
"Well this one judge said this so it must be true"
Answer this, if this were to go to another court and a second judge were to say that Trump did not participate in an insurrection despite no trial, would you agree with that judge and say to go with it?
"You act as if "Liberal Brownshirts" are storming around the streets and just snatching Republican politicians right off the sidewalks and throwing them in a prison camp."
That is not how it works. It is much more settled than that.
"These are stablished laws, clearly broken and you want to insist that when a Republican does it, it's not illegal."
Never once said that. I said due process need to occur via the 5th and 6th amendment. There have been many republicans that have committed crimes that went through a trial and faced punishments which I agree
Another ironic part here is that I am not even a republican, I am a moderate. I am not even fully arguing if Trump did commit a crime or not. I am arguing the lack of due process here where you are jumping to the conclusion that I will defend all republicans no matter what.
Heck, I will give you an example. When I was living in MO I hated Claire McCaskill. But in 2012 with Todd Aiken made his sick comments I opposed him and supported Dine. I don't play team politics.
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@Lethgar_Smith sigh......and here is where all of these internet discussion go. Just screaming "logical fallacy" and not addressing the point.
You said
"These are stablished laws, clearly broken and you want to insist that when a Republican does it, it's not illegal."
Which is literally a strawman on me. As I said, I am not a republican. If a republican broke a law, and via due process: a hearing, jury selection, a trial with witnesses and evidence presented with both sides giving their arguments, and that republican is found guilty then yes, punish them in accordance of the law.
But you are making a claim that not hold a that standard to a republican.
Also, you said the law was "clearly broken". May be. But still, you put people through due process as I mentioned above. You know how else clearly broke the law? James Holmes. He was given a trial by jury with a defense team.
I am not making a strawman. I am
1. Explaining to you that due process needs to take place in order to convict someone and have it on legal records someone committed a crime
and
2. Laying out your standard in to have no due process and just let judges make decisions with no trial, no jury, no arguments by both the prosecutor and defense.
So not a strawman.
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@Lethgar_Smith "Her statement does have legal standing."
It does not which is why Trump has not been found guilty of engaging in an insurrection.
"You may not agree with their decisions but you have no basis to claim a "lack of due process." "
Yes I do because it was not a guilty verdict. Trump is 100% innocent when it comes to the argument on if the engaged in an insurrection or not.
"Furthermore, and this is important, the 14th Amendment DOES NOT REQUIRE A CRIMINAL CONVICTION OF ANY KIND."
Yes it does. In the 14th amendment
"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Trump is being denied liberty as he has not been found guilty of anything. So to lay it out
1. Trump has not been found guilty of engaging in an inssurrection
2. Why? Because there was no due process
3. Thus Trump is 100% innocent when it comes on if he engage in an insurrection or not
4. Thus, via the same 14th amendment you keep citing he has a right to liberty and equal protection of the laws such as being on the ballot to run for president or any other office
"Oh, and BTW your list, in point 1 you agree with me."
No, it is me saying that yes, the judge made that statement. I then followed up that it has zero legal bearing on Trump's legal records.
"In point 2 and 3 you're flat out wrong. "
Wow. What a really convincing counter argument you gave here.
"In points 3, 4, 5 and 6, you repeat the same thing. Talk about padding your argument. "
I am trying to give you as much details as possible. I am showing you that Trump is
1. 100% innocent when it comes on if he engaged in an insurrection or not
2. Thus, the Colorado supreme court is removing an innocent man off of the ballot
3. Going farther that goes against the 14th amendment as it violates Trump's equal protection under the law
"You keep trying to claim that the Colorado courts have done something outrageously illegal and in total violation of the Constitution, and no one cares."
Actually a lot of people care which is why this is going to the US supreme court. There is a high chance they will overrule CO 9-0 due to how many parts of the Constitution the ruling violates. I feel that at worst it will be 7-2, but great chance of 9-0. When the SC overrules it will come back here and ask you how you feel.
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Frank William Abagnale Jr. is a convicted felon and has done a lot of work for the FBI due to his knowledge in the crimes he has committed.
Not to debate the veracity of Trump's current convictions, but what made him a great president is that he understands the inner workings of the political system along with the business side, those involved, the corruption, the laws, etc. He is actually perfect for the job. Look, the left has been attacking Trump for 8 years and so far all they have got him on was this case of him paying off a porn star. A case that is highly questionable and will be appealed to eventually the Supreme Court with high chances of being overturned. That's it. Nothing else. Everyone else would have given up by now. Trump doesn't because he knows the system and the people involved. He knows their weaknesses, their strengths, their corruption. That is who you want as president, not another corrupt, career politician.
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@majorbruster5916 Trump had a lot of success managing companies. What companies have Obama managed? None. What evidence exist that Trump did not pay his contractors? As for the bankruptcies, they were Chapter 11 so the companies can still operate and pay the workers. That was Trump knowing and understanding bankruptcy laws. It is common for someone in Trump's position to have a business go bankrupt. Warren Buffet had a lot of businesses go bankrupt under him. With success comes failures. Obama has had zero success.
As for public office and legislation, Trump understands law. And where is it written that every president needs to read the Constitution. Trump followed the Constitution where Biden and Obama did not. And Trump knew how big government is.
Obama had no experience. A one term senator and an adjunct night professor is not experience. Obama had no leadership skills and hit showed. He never been through the challenges of working with different people to get things done. The last good democrat president was Clinton, he had experience as governor. During the 2020 democrat debate Hickenlooper, another governor, was critical of Bernie, Warren and Harris and their extreme socialist policies saying, correct, that they had no experience of being in a position of leadership and management. That they wanted to throw a plan out there and have everyone else pick up the pieces.
Obama had no experience. Right away with Obamacare he was meant with pushback from his own party and he could not handle it. All he did was blame. He did not know how to work with people and he was pretty much shocked that people will disagree with him and pushback if they disagree on something. Trump was able to get his tax reform passed. He was able to get the Abraham Accord through. Seriously, what did Obama accomplish? He had 60 democrat senators and all we got was a garbage healthcare bill. It is because Obama has never been in a position of management and it showed.
" Especially casinos. No one in the casino business could believe that ANYBODY could fail in the casino business- but he did! "
Actually casinos go bankrupt often. Not to be rude but you need to get basic facts correct. Read the Northern Provincial Council article titled
"Casinos that went bankrupt - the dark side of gambling industry"
They list 45 casinos that went bankrupt, all pretty recent.
"He ran up the national debt by trillions of dollars,"
If you look at Trump's deficit as percent of GDP it was under 5%. Under Obama's first 3 years it was over 5% and would have kept going if republicans did not overtake the house and slow down spending. Trump's debt was much lower than Obama when you adjust for GDP.
" took bribes from foreign governments, and left a huge mess in Afghanistan that Biden tried to clear up"
Where is the evidence that he took brides? Also, Biden messed up Afghanistan.
"You're only saying that Obama was a bad president because that's what the Orange Jesus tells you to say"
No, because I lived through the Obama years. He was an awful president. I really couldn't care less about what Trump says. You say Trump is because because your gods, the liberal elites, tell you to. The same elites that accomplish nothing but complain about problems.
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@majorbruster5916 answer this, why didn't Obama pass The Freedom of Choice Act to make abortion legal federally? Why didn't he raise taxes on the rich? Why didn't he make gay marriage legal federally? I will tell you why, and this is why the liberal elites hate Trump. It is because Obama, Harris, Biden, etc. never solve problems. They will say problems exist and complain, such as Roe being overturn, or the rich not paying their fair share, etc. But why didn't they pass any of that federally? Look at gay marriage. It was a big deal until the supreme court made it legal federally. Now they don't talk about that. Now they talk about trans issue.
The reason why the liberal elites hate Trump is because he was getting things done and was having success doing it. But go ahead, vote for Harris because "orange man bad" while she does nothing about abortion, taxes, etc.
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@adifferentusername999 uh, the ol' "not that expert" argument. This is a point I make a lot, experts disagree. That is why on these so called rankings I would like to know their criteria, their reasoning, their area of expertise as well. I am a scientist in physical chemistry. During covid I disagreed with Fauci and the CDC and felt their ideas were wrong. Now you may say I am not a medical expert, which is true. But at that time I read the papers, I read the data, I also argued the point on why not have experts in child psychology giving their opinion and so on.
My point is this, you will look at a ranking by a so called "expert" and agree with it on face value if it goes with your already pre-set bias. You see, I don't. The guy who runs Vlogging Through History agreed with Shapiro's analysis of Trump. However, that same guy also refuses to rank recent presidents as what another historian told me, learning history teaches you to be humble and not overreact. Many presidents were ranked poorly early on but later were ranked higher. Recently Carter is one as many said, he was a great man, not a good president. However, him putting Volcker as chair of the Fed did cost him a 2nd term, but in the long run made our nation better.
You see, that is being intelligence, looking deeper as opposed to going off of face value what some bias "expert" says.
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@Brozius2512 is this going to be one of those comments you just copy and paste as if you are so smart? Ok. I will do the same to counter it
1. He never said it would go away. It was that it would not be a big deal. In May of 2020 many parts of the nation reopened and people went about their lives and were fine. In a rural town a buddy of mine said that for all intents and purposes covid does not exist there and they are fine.
As for deaths, the death count is overstated. You also have to consider how many died due to the lockdowns. Alcohol abuse spiked because of the lockdowns. So did obesity and diabetes. Along with that, Biden said he would eliminated the virus but saw the highest case rate.
2. He never said that. Also, golfing is a game where people do meet and make decisions. That is normal. He is not just out there golfing. And it is good not to meet with Fauci, Fauci is a hack who has never worked on a patient in his life and was completely wrong on covid. Also, Biden has taken more vacation days than Trump.
3. Every president since Clinton has said they would do healthcare reform. It is not easy. Even with Obamacare it was a challenge despite him having the house and the Senate.
4. Trump wanted a tax cut on the middle and lower class to be permanent. To get that you need 60 votes in the Senate. Zero democrats voted for the tax cuts on the middle and lower class. As for the rich, they pay the most taxes to begin with. 47% of the nation get money from the government as opposed to paying taxes.
5. They did. That is why wages went up along with labor participation rate going up and inflation was down
6. The economy was strong. Homeownership rate rose. Wages went up. Inflation was down. Unemployment only went up because businesses were shut down, mainly by democrats. Democrats did that to destroy the economy and try to make Trump look bad. As a result people have now left those democrat ran states.
7. He did not cut SS, medicare and medicaid. Besides, that is the largest portion of the federal budget
8. He has been the voice of the American worker. Since 1983 only two times did union membership rate go up. In 2006 under Bush and in 2019 under Trump. And what workers' rights did he strip?
9. Wages did go up. According to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wages were going up at a rate of around 2% under Obama. Under Trump it was over 3%. Under Biden wage growth has not caught up with inflation and now wage growth is dropping under Biden.
10. Uh, anyone who can get a test did get one. We gave out too many tests.
11. There was evidence it did cure from covid. Fauci even said that. In healthcare, when people are in desperate need for care they will try anything that has potential. That is normal. When nothing else is working they will try something experimental out that has potential.
12. Under Trump the deficit as a percent of GDP was around 4%. Under Obama's first 3 years it was over 5%. Under Biden it was over 5%. The deficit rose faster under Obama and Biden.
13. He did hire good people. It is common for roles like that to have high turnover rate as those are people who are looking to grow their skills and expand. That as opposed to begin a career bureaucrat like Fauci or being a career politician like Biden
14. Drug prices have always been high. Trump did not make the covid vaccine mandatory basically giving big pharma free money, democrats did that
15. This has been the trend for years. Under Trump that rate slowed down where in.
16. Trump wanted to do another stimulus check but Pelosi said no. Remember, congress controls the purse. After Biden became president then another stimulus was given out. Blame Pelosi.
17. HE did drain the swamp. He was removing corrupt, career government workers. He was reducing the powers of the federal agencies and gave us 3 justices that are now reducing powers of the federal government by reviewing the Chevron case and blocking the covid vaccine mandate.
18. He said he wanted to repeal the ACA and replace it. His replacement would have protected people
19. I can agree on this one, saying Mexico would pay for it was a bit foolish. Hey, you got one.
20. He did. Look at the Abrahams Accord. Under Biden we now see another war
21. So Trump did not arrest his political opponent? Oh the horror. Also, you can use your personal emails and phones, you just can't send sensitive documents via them. I do it on my work computer.
22. A government shut down is fine. If you are that dependent on the government where a shut down ruined your life you are a sad person. When the shut down happened guess what I did? I went to work, I went to class, I did what I was always doing. Also, his white house was fine. Under Biden we have people dancing topless in the yard.
23. The border was more secured under Trump. No need for DACA when people are not entering
24. Don't recall this promise. Now you are making things up.
25. Under Trump there were two years when N Korea did not launch any missiles. N Korea was behaving. Under Biden they have launched more missiles. So yes, Trump kept this promise.
26. He made zero dollars off of his businesses while in office.
27. He did keep jobs here in the US. Under Trump there were over 500,000 new manufacturing jobs created with over 264,000 jobs added in 2018.
28. Don't blame Trump for opioid. Besides, after covid you guys have zero room to talk about addiction and health.
29. Who cares
30. He did get us out of the Iran Deal and guess what, we are not on the brink of war with Iran. We are with other nations because of Biden. Remember, Trump did not get us involved in any new wars
31. That takes an act of congress. I also don't remember him promising that
32. We have been in a trade war with China prior to Trump. Trump alleviated it growing our economy and China was not escalating threats with Taiwan like they are now under Biden
33. Tuition has been rising for years. What can Trump do about that? He increased funding for HBCU and increased funding for federal grants like the Pell Grant.
34. Actually that is not true. In 2016 according to FRED the percent change in steel worker dropped 7%. Under Trump it grew in 2018 by 1.6% and by 3.8% in 2019.
35. The economy did get better as we saw with increase in homeownership rates and wage growth. And as I just pointed out (thanks for pointing this out for me), increases in steel workers.
36. Pulling out of the climate agreement was smart. It is a worthless agreement.
37. Or maybe because it is not worth his time.
38. As we saw with Biden pulling out was not wise. It led to death and now terrorists have our weapons and are starting wars again.
39. Uh, under Trump Russia did not invade Ukraine. There were two years where N Korea did not launch any missiles. China was not escalating tensions with Taiwan. He put those dictators in their place. That as opposed to now where they are laughing at Biden and starting wars.
40. He was the voice for the common people. When has Trump ever ridiculed and criticize a Clinton or Biden voter? Never. Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables. Biden called them dangerous. Trump canceled all the white house correspondent dinners when Biden brought them back and they were laughing at jokes about inflation. Because inflation is so funny. Trump gave inspiring speeches to raise moral after a tragedy. Biden jokes about how he almost lost his Corvette in a small kitchen fire while 100s of people were still missing.
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@justanotheropinion5832 "I gave you the exact article and section. The constitution doesn’t require a formal conviction,"
Yes it does via the due process clause. Without due process anyone can say someone engaged in an insurrection and remove them from the ballot. That is why the SC ruled 9-0 against the Colorado ruling. They saw it as leading to chaos where states will say Biden engaged in an insurrection without due process and remove him from ballots. Is that what you want?
"There have been court rulings confirming this so don’t bother pretending"
Like the SC ruling?
"If the statute of limitations expires, it’s a bad thing for Justice. "
Not really. Unless for major felonies the purpose of statute of limitations is that someone commits a crime and they cannot be found guilty based on the resources given. Meaning the prosecutor could not prove guilt. You are innocent until proven guilty. You can't just dig up old records from years ago and then prosecute someone. It is similar to even if you committed a misdemeanor overtime people overlook it. Even something as serious as a DUI. Typically after 7 years people ignore it on your record. People make mistakes, the purpose is to show we are a very forgiving nation. If someone makes no more mistakes why punish them?
"If he takes office one way or another he can retroactively pardon himself, which is a bad thing for Justice. "
It is not bad. The point of presidential pardons is that at times the justice system fails. Also, to get a conviction expunge it requires three justices to write it off and a very strong argument for it. The president can just pardon someone who was wrongly convicted, or convicted too harshly. This is especially true if there are politically motivated conviction.
"If he takes office one way or another, he promises to execute his 922 page plan to cancel the constitution, which is bad for justice. "
Trump never said that. In fact, the SC justices, especially Gorsuch has followed the Constitution very strongly. During 2020 he wanted to send in troops to states to stop the riots but he could not as he needs approval from the governor. So he didn't. Just like he did not do any federal covid mandates as he could not, only the states could decide.
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@JIM-ot4ws who is corrupt here? Trump did not have to run for president, he did because he cared about the people and he was improving the nation. The elites, especially the liberal elites don't want that because of issues and problems are being solved, or at least improved, there is nothing to run off of. Take a few examples
One, abortion. Why didn't democrats codify Roe in Obama's first 2 years? Obama said in a town hall he will sign the Freedom to Choice Act. He didn't despite having congress, including a supermajority in the Senate. Instead they spent two years trying to mess up healthcare. The reason why is because if they codify Roe they can no longer run off of it.
Taxes. Clinton claimed Trump did not pay any taxes. Trump argued back that, correctly, Clinton was in Congress for years, why didn't she change it? Well if she did her and her rich friends will have to pay more, and there will be no argument of the rich not paying their fair share to run off of.
Now take gay marriage. When the SC ruled in favor of gay marriage the democrats could no longer run off of that. So they switched their attention to the trans community and now allow men to compete with women and push gender affirming care. They no longer talk about the gay community as there is nothing to talk about with them, they can now get married.
For years the elites have been telling us the other side is bad getting the townsfolk all up in arms with their pitchforks while not improving anyone's lives. Trump comes in, ridicules the elites and improves the lives of the townsfolks. On that part, when has Trump ever ridiculed Biden voters as a whole? Never. Heck, in this case, did he ever ridicule the jury? No, he did the judge and DA. Meanwhile, Joe Biden is calling Trump voters a threat to democracy and Jill Biden is on The View saying Trump voters are evil.
The messages are completely different. Trump ridicules the elites, the elites, especially the liberal elites ridicule the people.
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@screenname2206 hate has always been there, Trump exposed it. A reason why Trump gained so much support is that because for years we had politicians not solving problems and blaming the other side for it. Look at issues like abortion, gun control, taxes, etc. Democrats had congress and the presidency in Obama's first two years. Why didn't they codify Roe? Because if they did it would no longer be an issue to run off of. Why didn't democrats raise taxes on the rich? Because if they do not only will they and their rich buddies have to pay more, it would no longer be an issue to run off of. Both sides will blame each other for issues and problems in this nation but do nothing to solve them. Remember that Clinton criticized Trump for not paying taxes and Trump responded that Clinton has been in congress for years, that she could have push to changed the laws. When Obama had a super majority in the Senate and the House why didn't they raise taxes on people like Trump?
Trump was solving problems and the elites, especially the liberal elites hated it. The economy was great under him. No new wars. Also, point to me a time where Trump ever ridiculed Biden or Clinton voters as a whole? Never. Clinton called Trump voters deplorables, Biden called them a threat to democracy and Jill Biden recently said Trump is evil and calling Trump voters evil. Heck, look at this video of Pakman ridiculing Trump voters. This is the division the elites want, us fighitng each other and the elites getting rich off of it.
Heck, you are saying this
" Trump supporters are a bunch of weak minded people who would rather watch our country burn to the ground than admit they voted for a corrupt president."
And that is a problem. Why are you painting Trump voters with such a broad brush? Because you fell for the narrative.
Heck, another example. Trump was pushed on the Ukraine war on if he would support Ukraine, as if we need to take a side of Ukraine or Russia. Trump said he wanted people to stop dying. He was not going to take the side or either Putin or Zelenski, he was taking the side of the people. Biden and the elites, on the other hand, keep supporting pumping money to Zelenski for a new never ending war.
Really, how can you not see that?
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@OldManYellsAtClouds I am not implying that all all. If you are the best for the job then you are hired. I don't care if you are gay, straight, lesbian, a man or a woman, etc. In this case, if my apartment complex is on fire I am not going to stop the firefighter trying to put it out, or rescue me and ask "well, are you a lesbian, are you a woman". No, I am going to hope they are the best at doing their job. Instead you leftists are like "they are a lesbian, hire them" regardless of their qualifications. I mean, you guys picked Harris to be VP because she was a woman of color. See how well that worked out for you in the 2024 election?
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@murphy804 on the cruse ship the infection rate was high and the death rate was low. That was the point. In fact, a NEJM paper titled "Covid-19=Navigating the Uncharted" with Fauci as the lead author said
" If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively."
Also you have this from a CDC report
"In a March 23 CDC report: Among 3,711 Diamond Princess passengers and crew, 712 (19.2%) had positive test results for SARS-CoV-2. Of these, 331 (46.5%) were asymptomatic at the time of testing. Among 381 symptomatic patients, 37 (9.7%) required intensive care, and nine (1.3%) died (8)."
Of the 9 that died, all were above the age of 70. If the virus was really that dangerous that number would be much higher. You also have to factor in the people who got it early on and recovered with no symptoms and thus gave negative results.
The whole point of the cruise ship data is that you had a group of people in a confined area, and yes, things were going as usual. In the article titled "The Corona Princess: Learning from a petri dish cruise (i)" it states
" Even if everything had gone as planned, the quarantine was really only for the (approximately 3700) passengers because the 1000 or so crew members still had to run the ship, as well as cook and deliver food to the passenger’s cabins. "
It was the petri dish and from there it was clear that it was not that dangerous
Sweden did have a low death rate. Again, it comes back to if the virus was really that dangerous then Sweden would have seen a very high death rate. Same with Florida which is number two in median age as a lot of older people live in FL. FL is not even number one in the US.
" Hospitals having the ability to extend their capacity doesn't mean they should be put in a position where they have to do so."
Again, that is always the case. Remember, we have a for profit healthcare system and they want to make money. Just like how a restaurant or hotel want to be near capacity, so does a hospital.
"The fact is, if this was left to run rampant, far more people would have directly died from the COVID-19 virus."
And there is nothing to back that up. Again, if it was so deadly a lot of people would have died on that cruise ship, not 9 that were all over 70. FL would have had a very high death rate, they are not even number 1 in the US. You also have to factor in weaken immune systems due to gyms being shut down, spike in alcohol abuse, etc. How many became severely ill because their immune system became weaker as they could not exercise or go outside?
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@Sundae_Times uh, that quote that has been debunked. As a good little cultist you leave out part of the full quote. Here
"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
Ok, now I now for a leftist cultist like yourself, reading and comprehensive is difficult for you. You need your leaders to feed things to you like they tell you who to vote for. What is being said is that there was massive fraud in election due to big tech and the DNC. And allowing such fraud will lead to the termination of the Constitution. He is not saying he will do it. He is saying if we allow fraud to happen, and allow laws to be broken, the Constitution will be terminated.
So again, when did Trump ever say he will suspend the Constitution?
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"They don't like regulations which gives Corporations more or less free rein to do what they want which is why, during the banking crisis in the US, we weren't affected due to restrictions on financial institutions in Canada."
Corporations are more than just banks. Also, what caused the financial crisis in 2007 was the fact that banks were giving out loans like candy at a parade and did not have any risk because the federal reserve will bail them out. Also, the federal reserve kept interest rates low. So it seems like the regulatory bodies were not doing their job.
"They seem to care a lot less about their poor and disabled due to lack of social programs to help those people. Their education system seems very much broken. It's common knowledge that most Americans know absolutely nothing about any countries but their own and even that seems minimal at best."
That is common across the world and you just proved it on your end by not knowing how the US operates. Most people do not know what goes on outside of their own town. That does not make then uneducated, most simply do not have the time to learn. I spend a lot of my time focusing on work and doing my job as opposed to learning what goes on in other nations. I will watch the major stories, but beyond that I simply do not know. The same is with other nations making an opinion about the US. The US is huge. We have states with larger populations than many nations. We are very diverse. So chances that someone from Canada knows anything about the US is small.
" Their health care system is atrocious. While the care might be good people have had to go bankrupt due to medical bills or can't afford medical help when it's needed. "
The US leads the way in innovation and outcomes when it comes to advance care. People going bankrupt are at high risk of going bankrupt to begin with. Yes, the US healthcare system has problems, but so do other nations. People die in Canada waiting for "elective" care. No system is ideal and that is because healthcare is very complex. You are talking about people's lives while dealing with limited resources.
"Why have all industrialized countries figured out Universal Health Care but somehow the US either cannot understand how to implement it or they just don't care"
There is no such thing as universal healthcare as resources are limited.
"They spend extreme amounts of money on their military which could be partly spent on some of their social programs. "
We spend more money on social programs than we do on the military. Also, defense spending has been dropping for decades as a percent of GDP.
". It is more of a ME country than a WE country and I for one am so very grateful I don't live there!"
And that is a difference of culture where there are pros and cons to that. We are much larger than Canada and very diverse. I live in TX, what goes on in MN means very little to me. The people in MN deal with a different climate, a different economy, a different culture, etc. That does not make them bad people, but this is a reason why we have state rights and are more individualist society.
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@iak706 those large riots, empty shelves, etc. were because of the democrats. That is why so many people moved out of those area. The democrats kept pushing the chaos, creating lockdowns while violating their own covid protocols, pushing BLM riots with Portland mayor openly supporting them and the Seattle mayor calling the summer of love.
The fact is this, the left was pushing the divide, the left is pushing the destruction of this nation, people became fed up and voted for Trump. I know people who voted for Harris and they did so for irrational reasons. One wanted to see a woman as president, my sister felt her boyfriend, who is an illegal immigrant will be deported when he has been in the US for 23 years and all he needs to do is apply and he will become a citizen quickly. People who supported Harris did so based on lies. Just watch, Trump is not going to raid places dragging people out of their homes. He is not going to become a dictator. Things will get better under him and I will keep mocking you guys until you admit that you are being lied to.
And the thing is this, I don't hate Harris voters. I hate the elites. I know that Harris voters are misguided by their so called leaders. The sooner you realize that people like Pakman, and members of the liberal elites are lying to you the better you will be and we can unite and improve this nation and take down the elites that don't care about you and me but only care about becoming richer.
Heck, go back to the pandemic. Why was it that small businesses were shut down but it was OK to shop in Walmart? Because the left supports the rich.
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@CasperLCat and this is where you are wrong. There is not data suggesting that the wealthy received a disproportional about of the tax cuts. In fact, the wealthy received very little at all, some receiving none. The vast majority went to the middle and lower class.
I have a job right now that is a global company. We have over 160,000 globally. This is a global economy, period. The economy is constantly changing. When the mines dried up in Nevada does that mean we should keep paying miners? Or when the tractor replaced many workers on the farm does that mean we should still pay them as farmers? Or when technology replaced Blockbusters should we subsidize that? My dad worked in a battery plant in the 90s when batteries were popular. Many worked there and earned a nice living. Overtime many devices went to batteries on board that are rechargeable. Think about it, we went from walkmans that needed batteries to now iPods and cell phones to play music that are battery on board that are rechargeable. That is the evolution of the economy but according to you that should not happen. Because of the batteries on board the plant closed. But what you are suggesting is not have rechargeable battery on board but go back to walkmans with batteries we discard in the landfill.
Also, Trump with the tariffs is pushing to bring job manufacturing back. What did prior administrations do? Nothing. What did Biden pass to help working families? The infrastructure bill that caused massive inflation?
"Taxes are a cost item to business AFTER they make their gross revenue, while tariffs are a cost incurred BEFORE a company can make adequate gross revenue, and thus they FORCE companies to raise prices or get out of business altogether. "
Sigh.....no, in both cases they are a tax on the company. Corporations also have share values as well that play a part. If you tax them more they will raise prices. With tariffs it is a negotiating tool between two nations that can bring jobs back to the US. With corporate taxes we are fighting ourselves.
As for my education, I have an MBA as well as a PhD in physical chemistry. I am well educated. I don't watch Fox news. Trump is exposing corruption. How can career politicians like Warren become a millionaire? Answer that. How did Hunter Biden become rich without having a job?
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@CasperLCat sigh....3/4 of funding for roads is state and local. Our interstate system was fine. As for flying, there was no improvement in flying under Biden. In fact, in 2022 we saw the fourth highest number of cancel flights since 2000. The others being 2000, 2001 (9/11 happened that year), and 2020, the plandemic year. Remove 2001 and 2000 we have the 2nd most cancel flights in 2022 since 2000. Wow, that bill really did improve air travel. The national weather service has been fine and was not a part of infrastructure.
Not all public infrastructure has to be government funded. We have toll roads for example. But as I said, the vast majority of the government funded programs is state and local. As for the private sector, don't you think it would benefit a business to invest in a road so people can go to their company? Or take a simple example, I worked at a local truck stop for years. When it snowed guess what, they plowed their own parking lot and shoveled their own sidewalks. Why? So people can drive up to the pump, so they can park, so they can safely walk in to eat. No city involvement. They also invested in canopies to cover the pumps so people can pump gas and not get wet during rain. So yes, private companies will invest in a way to benefit them.
Investing in the stock market is not being an entrepreneur. I can invest in the stock market Monday if I wanted to. I agree, private enterprise won't do everything. But you are going on the extreme of thinking the federal government does it all. Local governments do it better. Again, almost all infrastructure you interact with daily is funded at the state and local level. If it weren't for the fact that I live in the city I would be using all local roads and not the interstate which makes up for around 10% of my weekly commute. And the irony is the interstate portion of my drive is the most hectic with the worst traffic.
Your last paragraph sums up your ignorance. I have, from the beginning, pointed out that almost all infrastructure is funded and ran at the state and local level and I said it is ran better that way. I live in TX, the state with the second largest population in the US. In fact, with me supporting more state and locally ran programs means I support my neighbor more because I have to work with my neighbor to make sure my local community is ran well. You are the entitled one that wants the federal government to pay for everything. Like in California, they mismanage their forests leading to fires and expect other states to bail them out.
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@ginderellablue several reasons. To start, in his first term the economy was much stronger and we had a more peaceful world. That is a fact. I can break down numbers for you on the economy. But a big reason was because I feel he supports unity for the people and opposes the corrupt, and divisive elites in our nation.
Think about it, you had Obama saying rural voters only care about guns and god, and then saying business owners didn't build that. And during the Harris campaign he was trying to shame black men into voting for Harris. Romney said 47% of people do not pay federal taxes, so he does not have to worry about them. Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables, Biden called them garbage and a threat to democracy, Harris called them Nazis.
I ask this simple question for you, when has Trump ever ridiculed Clinton, Biden or Harris voters as a whole? Please tell me. I have not seen it. People call Trump a bully because he calls Harris stupid. Well, Harris called people like me a nazi. So who is worse? No one has ever been able to point me to a time where Trump ever ridiculed Clinton, Biden or Harris supporters as a whole. The reason is because he actually supports the people.
Trump wants unity. To me, at this point, I am going to give it time. The elites will go down and those who believed the lies form the elites will eventually learn that Trump is leading us in the right direction and being so hateful and divisive towards each other is not best.
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@sspbrazil "the majority of advances in medicine and advances in medicine come from public funding though and much of the public doesn’t realize that, "
That is simply not true. A lot of that funding goes into programs that basically go nowhere. When a new medical advancement happens the private sector gets more involved. The public funding you are referring to is some NIH grant going to some group in a grad school on a project that will contribute very little, if anything to the major advancement. I had an NIH grant in grad school. My work did contribute some to the medical advancement, but very very little in the big picture.
"pharmaceutical medication costs more in the U.S. than any other country in the world and in some cases 10x, if you don’t have prescription insurance you will have to pay out of pocket unless you can qualify for Medicaid which means you have to be pretty much destitute. "
Two reasons. One is because of Medicaid only willing to pay a certain amount. Another is because other nations are only going to pay a certain amount. Thus, for pharma companies, they have to make up the difference somehow, so they charge the US more. What we have to do is place high tariffs on other nations when it comes to the transportation of these medications to other nations. Force those nations to pay up as opposed to making the US pay.
"Brazil is as mixed as the U.S. in terms of ethnicities, "
Ethnicities does not equal culture. You can have two nations of the same race with completely different culture. Culture takes decades to develop as it is based on history, resources, etc. Race actually places a small role across the world.
"Also, the U.S. is one of the only countries where it’s legal to advertise pharmaceutical medications on TV and the Pharma companies put a lot o money into marketing medications in the U.S. as opposed to other countries they rely on the expertise of their doctors."
Doctors are not perfect. What you laid out is one thing that gives the US the edge in healthcare, that is choice and information. In the US, mainly due to our culture, we like to shop around. We like information. When we go to the doctor we ask questions, we just don't blindly follow their advice just like we don't blindly follow pharma companies. Take covid as a great example. Many, like me, were highly skeptical when doctors pushed on us by the government (the CDC and Fauci) were telling us one thing where other doctors who were censored said something else. Or pharma was pushing a vaccine the government was paying for. Turns out the skeptics were correct. We did our own research because, even with the push for censorship, the info was still there. Also, people can make decisions on their own life experience.
"the life pans of countries with public health systems is always higher than without because preventative medicine"
That is because of culture. The US is number on in health outcomes in advanced care. We have low life expectancies because we take more risks due to our culture. We praise a game where grown men hit each other and end up with CTE. We are number one in obesity. As for preventative care, Katherine Baicker from Harvard published a paper showing that preventative care does not improve overall health.
"If you look at the ranking of healthcare systems in around the world, the U.S. doesn’t even make the top 10. "
Those rankings are 100% arbitrary as you can weigh data in many ways. Those rankings hardly never look at outcomes in advanced care where the US is tops. Also, again, it does not look at culture. Comparing the US with the south were we have large portions in food and is obese to European nations that have smaller portions and thus lower obesity is a hard comparison to make, and really has nothing to do with healthcare.
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1. Fauci and the democrats are always right. Follow the, follow "the science".
2. If you criticize any covid restrictions you are "anti-science"
3. The lockdowns are harmful, kids fell behind in education, many people suffered via economic hardships, mental issues rose, alcohol and drug abuse rose, but hey, do what Fauci and the democrats say because "science"
4. Yes, everyone else is lying, listen to "the science" as Fauci is "the science"
5. Never question Fauci and the democrats
6. Sums up the democrats a lot
7. Yep, cut off those who don't follow "the science". Many people refuse to talk to me because I decided to be rational and follow real science and live life normally
Yep, the democrats are a cult. Thanks for the list
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@Steven-vo4ee "The conflicts of today would have happened regardless of who is in the White House, they’re outside of US control."
No they wouldn't. Biden being buddy buddy with Ukraine and giving them a bunch of money is why Putin invaded them. Trump spearheaded the Abraham Accord.
Again, Trump is the first president in my lifetime to not get us in a new war.
In 2020 you had the lockdowns. Democrat governors destroyed the economy on purpose. For Trump being labeled as a dictator during covid he did not violate state rights.
"This period of high inflation is global."
Switzerland has low inflation. Also, murder is an issue in other nation, does not mean we try to stop it. Also, what goes on in the US economically really influences what goes on world wide due to us being the number 1 economy in terms of GDP.
"The US growth rate is 5%"
When you have been very bad for a couple years you have nowhere to go but up. Also, that is in spite of Biden. Look up "All Employees: Total Nonfarm in Florida" in FRED stats along with other states and compare their lockdown protocols. States like GA, FL and TX reached their pre covid numbers much sooner than states like MI, CA and NY did. States that opened up earlier from covid saw their economies recover sooner and are driving our nation.
"The US stock markets are at record highs,"
Which benefits the people how?
"US unemployment is at record lows now."
Labor participation rate, according to FRED stats are still below pre covid level. Less people are willing to work thus production is down.
Yes, please give more. I have heard it all before and know how to counter these talking points.
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@Steven-vo4ee "The US was providing aid to UA under Trump, remember the “perfect phone call”?"
What perfect phone call? Fact is that Trump was trying to work with Russia where Trump's opponents and NATO were trying to work against Russia. That is why Russia attacked Ukraine under Biden but not under Trump. Trump understood there was a change in culture in Russia and was looking to unite Russia with the rest of the west, but NATO and the elites in the US could not have it.
"The US isn’t in a conflict today, it’s simply aiding an ally"
Which is making things worse and is harming the US. We can uses those resources here in the US to secure our border and economy. Also, it is making Putin mad. When Trump was doing a CNN town hall he was asked if he would side with Ukraine. Trump said he wanted people to stop dying. All the Ukraine-Russia war is at this point is a scam by the elites to divide us and give more money to Biden's best friend.
"Also I didn’t claim Trump was what you said, though he has subsequently said he’d be one day one of his second term. But let me guess, he was “joking” like every other time he says something inconvenient and/or embarrassing."
If you are talking about him being a dictator here is the thing. His opponents are constantly calling him a dictator and it has gone to the point that he might as well embrace it. Pakman did a video where he showed an interview of a Trump supporter praising the comments of Trump saying he will be a dictator. Pakman edited the video because if you want the full video, like I did on a conservative channel, they said that if being a dictator means to drill, then he is for it.
If being a dictator means a strong economy, a more peaceful world, then sign me up. Because I have never once seen Trump try to be a dictator. I have seen it in Biden in his vaccine mandates and student loan repayments.
"How would Trump have ‘stopped’ the inflation? A magic wand?"
By stopping the massive spending and also making investors more confident in the economy. Along with that, stopping the wars.
Here is an example in how wars harm the economy. My company sells detectors that were built in Russia. Same with our competitors. When the war started we had to go elsewhere. The alternative due to resources was Ukraine. So we have 6 month, at least, lead times with our detectors. These are scientific equipment thus that hinders scientific research and progress as well (so much for liberals being pro science). It all adds up.
Also, maybe if people did not freak out over the flu the economy would be better.
"The performance of the stock markets was one of the metrics Trump most often boasted of. "
Trump is a loud mouth, he boasts about anything. I can look past that. A strong stock market is good in ways, but there is way more to the economy than that. Labor participation rate is low. Interest rates are high. Inflation is high. Pakman does many videos looking at the macro economics, but people see the micro of higher gas and food prices. I went to the store the other day and bought 4 things: cat food, TP, litter and OJ, cost me nearly $100. Never seen that before for those items.
"Older people not returning to the workforce after the events of 2020 is the norm in all developed economies, what would Trump do to get them back to work when they’ve decided not to?"
It isn't just older people. Trump will lead to investors to increase wages. According to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wage growth was around 2% under Obama. Under Trump it was over 3%.
I am defending Trump record very well here. Want me to go on? I can.
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@Steven-vo4ee "As for the rest, complete and utter nonsense."
Nice to see you cannot counter anything that I wrote.
The Trump's impeachment was BS. What was the phone call about? And as we have seen, when Biden became president he does not hesitate to give Ukraine money to incite the war.
"Again trying to have it both ways, who cares if VP “is mad”, the conflict would end today if he withdrew his troops from UA. The rest of the West would be aiding UA regardless of US involvement."
The US is the powerhouse of the world. Also, the NATO nations are not paying their fair share. They will not be funding anything if the US is not. Our "allies" have the mentality that the US will fund everything and they will chip in their few cents. What made Trump great was that he was not going to play that game. Under Trump the US was not going to pay for everything. Other nations have to pay their fair share as they agree.
"As for wanting a dictatorships with a strong economy, you’re welcome to move to China.
Under Trump the economy was strong. Now please lay out how he was a dictator in his first term? When covid hit he could have easily used that as a way to tell states to lock down or to open up. He did not do that. He encouraged states to open up but many states still were lock down as Trump had no power. Biden pushed for a federal vaccine mandate.
So please, explain to me how Trump was ever a dictator and how is pushing for more oil production means dictatorship.
"Stoping spending on what? Investors are clearly highly confident in the US, as evidenced by the stock market.
Ah, your company profits from RU, let me guess you’re from RU too and have deep connections…"
Investors are not confident in the US. As for you mocking my company. My company employs 160,000 people globally. And as I said, my competitors are suffering as well. We all develop scientific equipment. Scientific advancement is hindered. So it goes beyond my company. So mock my company all you want. You clearly support hindering scientific progress.
"“The flu” yet another nonsensical talking point."
It was the flu.
"Yet this period of high inflation is global, prices would be the same under Trump"
Funny how inflation was low under Trump. Results matter.
"You’ve done a very poor job of demonstrating who Trump was top 10 president"
Nope. Again, a more peaceful world and a strong economy. Your only argument is "well it would have happened anyways". Please tell how it would have happened anyways. Under Trump the world was more peaceful and the economy was strong, period. Your argument of "well it would have happened anyways" is terrible.
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@John-cc4rk I did answer your question. You can't just look up a dictionary definition of something, you need a legal one. So there is that. When you read a bill a lot of times there is a section defining what certain words mean. You can't just point to a dictionary. For example, if you look up the government site uscourts, there is a legal definition of "answer" which is
"The formal written statement by a defendant in a civil case that responds to a complaint, articulating the grounds for defense."
Now look up the definition of "answer" in the Oxford dictionary, you get many results (including a legal on). So no, you can't just look in a dictionary.
Next, you need to determine if someone participated in an insurrection. That is where I asked "what is the standard".
As for arms, read Scalia's opinion on DC v Heller. On page 7 he talks about what "arms" means. A little part of it
"Before addressing the verbs “keep” and “bear,” we interpret their object: “Arms.” The 18th-century meaning is no different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of Samuel Johnson’s dictionary defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.” 1 Dictionary of the English Language 107 (4th ed.) (hereinafter Johnson). Timothy Cunningham’s important 1771 legal dictionary defined “arms” as “any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.” 1 A New and Complete Law Dictionary (1771); see also N. Webster, American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) (reprinted 1989) (hereinafter Webster) (similar). "
So where is the court case with opinion to define what an insurrection is along with what is the standard in who participated in it?
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@John-cc4rk so then, this goes back to your original post. The words "charged and convicted" are not used. Sure, but you have a few things here. One, you have 14.1 and the 5th amendment that mentions due process. That was not done here at all. Where was due process? What is even due process? Well, there are court cases on that.
And then next, what is an insurrection? And what is the standard? You pointing out that a section of an amendment lacks certain words such as "charged and convicted" does not mean there does not need to be a charge and conviction. In fact, in this recent ruling by the supreme court they gave standards
"The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment. See City of Boerne v.
Flores, 521 U. S. 507, 536 (1997). Or as Senator Howard put it at the time the Amendment was framed, Section 5 “casts upon Congress the responsibility of seeing to it, for
the future, that all the sections of the amendment are carried out in good faith.” Cong. Globe, 39th Cong., 1st Sess., at 2768. Congress’s Section 5 power is critical when it comes to Section 3."
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@unropednope4644 wages are higher but inflation has outpaced them. People are still earning less. In fact, wage growth, according to the Atlanta Federal Reserve, is now dropping and have been the past few months. It only went up under Biden because many people went from making zero to making a wage when businesses were allowed to reopen and rehire. So real wages are lower under Biden.
Another indicator of a strong economy under Trump, according to FRED, from 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped around 6%. Under Trump it grew around 5%. Under Biden it has remained stagnant after a drop in 2021. Point being people were able to afford homes under Trump because the economy was so good (low interest rates, higher wages).
" Lack of health and medical care equipment at the start of the pandemic causing heakthcare workers to reuse and ration masks and other equipment. "
That is actually normal. In 2017 there was a California hospital that had to make temporary ICU rooms from tents due to overran hospitals. That is why when Covid hit hospitals were able to build more ICU rooms, they have been doing it for years. In fact, a CEO in a TX hospital said hospitals are constantly running at over 90% capacity and they can build more if needed. It is how they make money. We just never talked about it until it became necessary to shut down the economy.
"No toilet paper, sanitizers. There were distribution problems with the vaccines and major ports were constantly backed up under Trump."
Not true. It was not Trump's fault democrats shut down the economy. Also, governors were told to distribute the vaccine as the federal government has no authority to do it (even though fascist Biden tried to override congress). Republican governors like DeSantis did great. Cuomo ordered infected patients back in nursing homes.
"Biden announced nearly 30 new actions to strengthen supply chains critical to America’s economic and national security. From October 2021 to October 2023 under biden, supply chain pressures as measured by the New York Fed declined from near-record highs to a record low, helping lower inflation, which has fallen by 65% from its peak."
Inflation was at an all time high, it had no where to go but down. And it went down due to increases in interest rates by the Fed (again, preventing people from buying homes and harming those in debt). And inflation went up again this past month.
And the supply chain is still terrible. I am experiencing it in my company where we, and our competitors cannot get certain items due to the war. We had to raise our prices starting this year. It is why prices are still going up.
So how am I wrong? Face it, things were better under Trump. That is why democrats can't run on their record or run challenging Trump's record. All they can say is "Trump is a fascist". If things are so good, why not run on that?
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@Tony38533 "Learn to read, 1,071 children 5-18 died of COVID. "
Again, if that number is correct that is, at worse, a 0.001% mortality rate. Low. There are more deaths via traffic accidents, why not ban driving? Also, of those kids dying, what were their overall health like? As we saw most dying with covid were just that, with covid, not from covid.
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Well actually you have had mass shootings. You had on in 2022, one in 2019, one in 2018, etc.
Next, gun violence was never really a problem in Australia to begin with. So your gun buyback program did nothing really. The US is simply a more violent nation. There are many reasons why, but if you remove guns from the equation our murder rate is still high compared to other developed nations. For example, Australia's murder rate is around 0.8 per capita. The US is around 6.4. The US gun homicide rate is around 3.5. If you removed all guns from the US, and if you assume those that committed murders with guns would not commit murder with another weapon, or homicide rate is still around 2.9, higher than Australia. Again, the reasoning for that is complex, but that is the reality. Australia never had a high homicide rate to begin with.
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@silimarina. "what Harris does and supports is not normal?"
Dress up in drag. Cry when they don't get a female president because apparently they want a president to be femaie as opposed to being the best candidate regardless of gender. Saying there are multiple genders. Saying for weeks that Biden was healthy and OK despite many video evidence. Typical things the left does. I can go on such as supporting shutting down schools while saying they support education. Want me to keep going?
"Talking about sharks, Hannibal, whines and insults his opponents in the most despicable, childesh ways, is that NORMAL to you or MAGA?"
You have to watch the whole rally to get the joke. Whether you think it is funny or not, it was a joke.
As for the insults, well gee, when Clinton calls Trump supporters deplorables, when Biden calls them a threat to democracy, Harris has said that as well, I support Trump insulting them.
You see, you guys call Trump a bully when he insults people that are at his level, or even higher. But you cheer on people like Harris, Biden and Clinton, and other liberal elites when they insult voters who support Trump when those voters have basically no power to defend themselves. So you find it OK when Harris calls Trump supporters a threat to democracy? I don't think those voters are, but I can't defend myself. But you cheer on Harris when she is punching down, but then criticize Trump when he punches up.
Also, please answer this because no one ever has. When has Trump ever ridiculed Clinton or Biden voters as a whole? I have never seen it.
So based on your standards, insults are normal. You just cry when your cult leader, Harris, is insulted.
"Have you ever heard Biden or Kamala calling Trump "stupid, low IQ, dumb as a rock"? No, because they are adults,"
They called him a threat to democracy which led to an assassination attempt. I find that to be worse.
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@jacobhiggsproduction here is the full post
"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even though found in the Constitution. Our great "Founder" did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
He is saying that the democrats, the media, big tech and the DNC are committing fraud. And that fraud will lead to the termination of the Constitution. He DID NOT say he wanted to terminate the Constitution.
Not to be rude, but you have to show the full post to give the accurate perspective. Just cherry picking part of it makes you look bias and dishonest. And it really does zero favors and is in fact dangerous at times.
Trump already lowered insulin prices. Biden did nothing. And the "inflation reduction act" did nothing to lower inflation. Even if insulin prices are low if all other prices are high what have you accomplished?
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It makes you more mature. And you say stressed out, sure, but you fight through it. This isn't some stress out situation like a test in a college class or driving in traffic that goes away, this is a human life that, if things go well, will outlive you. And you bring up work life balance, etc. That is a part of being an adult. That makes you better. You learn responsibility because, again, you are in charge of a human life that will outlive you. This isn't like a friend you can drop at any time, or a hobby you can drop at any time.
You are proving Vance's point. You will travel, be with friends who will mostly have kids and no longer hang out with you, do hobbies you may age out of and then what?
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@WorldPolitica-gm9is to add on inflation, there are many flaws. One is substitution bias. Substitution bias is that is the price of one item goes up consumers will tend to go to something else. For example, if the price of beef goes up people will start to buy chicken. Another problem is the quality of goods that is not factored in inflation. A car in the 1920s cost around $400. How much do cars cost now? Now factor in what new cars have to offer? They are safer, last longer, get better gas mileage, etc.
Or take something like online shopping. Before if you wanted to buy something you will have to drive to store to store and take time looking for it. Now you can buy it online without leaving your home which saves time and money.
Also, what I mentioned also makes GDP flawed. And other flaws to GDP is that it does not include income inequality, the sustainability of the nation's growth, impact on human health, etc.
So yes, these issues are complex. GDP growth was high in the US in the 50s and 60s. Well, a big reason why is because the rest of the world was rebuilding after the War where the US was not. So the destruction of the world and millions of deaths led to the US having a strong economy.
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@sithwolf8017 "What would you suggest that should've been done with covid?"
I told you, and this is something we should have done prior to covid. If you are scared you stay home. We should protect the vulnerable that want to be protected. I fully support that. As I said, I had a colleague in grad school where the university offered all TAs work at home to fulfill their TA contracts. They can do that. I support that. What I am saying is that the moment you step outside of your home you are taking a risk and people should not cater to you.
It angered me when that colleague, when the mask mandate was dropped, demanded all her students wear masks. She had the option to work at home. Instead she wanted to teach lab but demanded people wear masks even though the mandate was dropped. She strong armed her students. My approach is that is that if you are scared, you stay home and we offer you work at home, grocery delivery, etc. Let others live life. We have the technology to do that. And as I said, we have the technology to do that.
"Sure, 99% would be fine, but remember that's still 80 million dead or permanently injured if covid were to spread unchecked and not taking into account comorbidities of which hundreds if not billions have at least one. That number increases with repeat infections and when taking said comorbidities into account"
And that is the same with any disease. That is the risk in life. When you have sex you know the risk of getting HIV or Herpes. What we do is tell people the risk of the disease that exist and give them options. To me one option is that they can hide and work at home. I 100% support that. For others, like me, I fully understand the risk so I take it. Just like I know the risk when I drive to work, I can get in an accident and die. I know the risk of working a football game, I can get hit and die. I know officials who have died on the field. Or in lab, there can be a nitrogen leak and I can die. I know the risks. I choose to deal with them.
" Look, I'm trying to get you to see how a virus impacts the body from a microbiologist standpoint just as you've done to get me to see yours. Have you ever actually read any of the papers on covid and its mechanisms of pathogenesis?"
I have read many papers. During lockdowns when I could not do my hobbies I did. I am telling you what you need to do is tell people the risk, give them options and go from there. Even before covid we should have always protected the vulnerable. Just like before covid we should have always washed our hands. What is funny is that prior to covid I was in grad school. I always had a bottle of hand sanitizer at my desk and used it often. I did so because I supported cleanliness. Just like during my undergrad years I worked at a restaurant and I always kept the grill area clean. Or back to grad school, I kept the area clean. This was all prior to covid. It should not have taken a "pandemic" to get people to keep their work area and hands clean. I was doing it before covid.
But the bottom line is this. I support giving people the option to hide at home if they want to and protect the vulnerable that want to be protected. We have the resources. But for others that want to live life, let them. As I said, I know the risks I take the moment I step outside of my apartment door. I know the risk driving to work where I can get in an accident and can die. I know the risk at work with the XRay spectrometers and gas cylinders involved, or a nitrogen leak. I know the risk of the disease out there I can catch. Heck, I flew the other day to Ohio and drove in a rain storm last week and I knew the risk of that.
What we do is tell people the risk and give them options.
Going back to sports, when I played football my coach, every year played a video called "See What You Hit" where it discussed the dangers of the game how it can lead to even death. I still played. i was told the risk and played. Same with covid. I know the risk.
There will never be a time in life where there will be zero risk in life. I feel you are wanting that when that will never exist. What I am saying is tell people the risk, give them options and go from there.
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@sithwolf8017 as I said, at some point the mitigation causes more damage. Going back to traffic deaths. We have traffic laws to alleviate deaths, however, it still happens. To make traffic deaths be zero we can cap vehicle speed to be 15 mph. But the damage of reduction in productivity will be worse.
It is the same with covid. Yes, locking people in their homes can stop the spread, but the damage physically, psychologically, etc. will be worst. And that was my problem. I knew the risk associated with covid and people had options to stay home. So, you stay home, let me live life because to me taking on the risk of covid to live life and do my hobbies was worth it. Just like I can work at home today and avoid taking the risk of driving to work. However, I enjoy working in the lab more.
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@sithwolf8017 That surgeon thing is a flawed comparison. They are in a highly controlled situation. A clean room, where they wash their hands, and use the mask once that they put on with clean hands. That compared to someone wearing an old ripped up shirt. Or someone wearing the same mask for weeks they grabbed off of the counter with their dirty hands while leaving home. So you can't compare the public wearing a mask to a surgeon.
1. Physically impossible to breath in our CO2? I am physically fit and I felt the difference working out with a mask on and without. I could breath much easier without it on. Because it is also not just breathing in your own CO2 but breathing in O2. Many football teams were making players wear a shield on their face mask. Not just an eye shield but over their mouth. I asked a player how they felt about it and he said they could not breath well. And funny how you went to an insult of me flunking gen chem when I taught it in grad school.
2. How is it stupid? Many people where constantly grapping their masks with dirty hands or using the same one for weeks, or even simply days (back to the surgeon comparison). What is your point on pneumonia?
Also, a damaging point on masks was the image. Just walking around seeing people blindly wear masks. There were psychological effects of not seeing someone smile. Or just the depressing sight similar to some mark of shame placed on society. Also, why not make people wear hazmat suites? Why stop at masks?
As for football, these are young, healthy men. How many players in sports from professional sports down to youth died with covid? Same with the staff, coaches, etc . Basically zero. You may find some, but in the large picture it is zero. In football these players are more likely to be harmed with concussion.
Sticking with football, the NFL and NCAA preach player safety. Meanwhile, the NFL tells a team to play on Sunday and then play on short rest Thursday. Or teams in TX like Rice University practice in the evening as it is cooler but then the NCAA has them play at 11 AM in 100+ degree heat index. That just adds to how inconsistent this whole thing was.
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@michelehemlokhexwhite4310 to start being a narcissist does not equal dementia. Almost every politician is a narcissist. Biden is, Obama is, Newsom is, Harris is, etc. Same with people on the right such as MTG and Boebert. They are the only people willing to move up in politics.
Next, as in lies, again, that is not a sign of dementia. The fact that Trump lies is mainly a myth. It has been debunked. Biden, however, had lied many times. Lies such as saying he was a truck driver, or that his uncle was eaten by cannibals, or meeting the man who created insulin, etc.
What is wrong with Trump's policies? A more peaceful world and strong economy was great.
Next, so you want me to read a book by hack doctors who were failures who instead of helping patients decided to write politically bias books. I have a PhD myself. I have seen people with doctorates who failed in their field and thus become angered and become administrators, write bias books, take positions to spread bias info, etc. As my PI told me, those in science who become admin failed as scientists. So you want me to read books by "doctors" who do not see patients but instead politically driven books, I'll pass.
To determine if someone has dementia you need to do a personal analysis. You can't just look at someone and say they have dementia.
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@kennethselby48 our economy was strong. It was so strong that the democrats could not run against Trump on it, so they created a pandemic to shut down the economy. You bring up deficit, the deficit as percent of GDP under Trump was less than 5%, which is normal. Under Biden it is well over 5% and still rising. So the deficit is much higher under Biden.
How was the economy strong? Low inflation, wage growth, homeownership rate growing, worker participation rate growing, the list goes on. People had money, they could afford groceries and bills and could afford to buy homes.
How does someone like me exist in this world? Well, I look at facts from independents resources and I think for myself. I just don't listen to sources that say "der, orange man bad, der".
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@Mike-ock I will answer.
The criticisms of Trump are mainly not true. Look past the tweets, turn off the liberal, bias media, and look at the actual success under Trump. A more peaceful world: no new wars, 2 years where N Korea did not launch an missiles, spearheaded the Abrahams Accord. That compared to Biden with two new wars, N Korea launching more missiles and claiming to have a spy satellite, China flying a spy balloon over the US and now threatening Taiwan after meeting Biden.
The economy was strong under Trump (I can give you several numbers with citations). Under Biden the economy is terrible which is why his poll numbers are so low.
As for Donald "come and bless" me, I do not feel that way about Trump. If Trump loses in 2024 I will be fine. I just know that under democrats the middle and lower class will continue to struggle and we will see more wars. I have highly educated and well off. But I am the exception, not the norm.
To add, after covid I saw how evil the democrats are and they do need to be stopped and reformed. Trump is clearly a threat to the current state of the liberal elites. You talk about Trump blessing people when people on the left just blindly follow and obey what the liberal elites tell them. Covid proved that. That is a religious like behavior.
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@Mike-ock to add, look at who Trump criticizes vs who the liberal elites criticize. Trump criticize the liberal elites like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, members of the media, etc. The liberal elites criticize the people. Biden called Trump voters dangerous. Clinton called them a group of deplorables. When has Trump criticize Biden voters? Never.
Trump, when pressed on if he will support Ukraine in the war said he wanted people to stop dying. The elites want us to take sides. Trump wants the wars to end and for average people to stop dying.
After Charlottesville Trump condemned white supremacist. But he also said the truth that there were fine people on both sides, which is true. There were peaceful people on both sides. The media twisted his words saying he called white supremacist "fine people" to paint one side to be completely evil. That is divisive.
Trump knows that with average Americans there are good people on both sides, and that just because you voted for Biden does not mean he will not help and support you, he will. Biden and the liberal elites, on the other hand, will say you are evil if you voted for Trump.
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@susie-ws4ce Trump took a stagnant economy under Obama and improved it. It was doing so well and democrats had no answer for it besides create a "pandemic" to shut down the economy. That is the reality.
"he set us up for a major economic fall and left up with an increased debt of 7 trillion dollars, "
Sigh.......another statistic illiterate. Look at deficit as percent of GDP by FRED stats. Under Trump it was always under 5%. Under Obama's first two years it was over 5%. Under Biden's years it was over 5%. You can't just give raw numbers. You need to put the numbers in proper perspective. Look at the deficit as percent of GDP, it was lower under Trump compared to Obama and Biden. I know, statistics is hard, but please try to learn something in life to be an informed voter.
" Over a million Americans died of Covid while he mishandled it, "
Sigh.......how did he mishandle covid? He did all he could do within his power. Here is the harsh reality. If Trump would have done a federal mask mandate and a federal lockdown you guys would have thrown down your masks and then gathered in large crowds in the streets calling him a fascist. You guys called Trump a fascist but he could have used covid as an excuse to grow in power, he did not. Biden did with his vaccine mandate.
" And, he did not leave us with a peaceful world, he weakened the US on the world stage and began dismantling NATO, "
NATO is a corrupt organization that starts wars. Under Trump you had the Abraham Accords. Under Trump Russia does not invade Ukraine, they do under Biden. First president in my lifetime where no new wars were started. Yes, the world was more peaceful. NATO loves wars as it means more money for them.
"He kissed the asses of dictators, sucking Putin off and literally gave national defense secrets to our enemies. He was a horror show the depths of which Joe Biden pulled us from, thank god."
Funny, under Biden Putin just laughed at him and invaded Ukraine.
Again, learn basic facts and be an informed voter.
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@danielpupo7013 the economy was, at best, stagnant under Obama. You say growth, there is more to the economy than that. Comparing Obama to Trump. From 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped 6%, it great 5% under Trump. Labor participation rate was dropping under Obama, it grew under Trump. These are according to FRED stats BTW. Interest rates were low under Trump despite increases in employment. According to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wage growth under Obama was 2%, it was over 3% under Trump. But a key stat there was that under Obama wage growth for the lower quartile income earner it was less than 2%, under Trump it was over 4%. So the lower class saw their wages grow at a much higher rate under Trump.
As for covid, how could have Trump handled it differently? He wanted the economy to be open but you guys freaked out saying that was going to lead to deaths. So what did you want? An open economy allowing it to grow but more deaths? Or less deaths (supposedly) from shutting down the economy and protecting people from the virus? It was a no win situation here for Trump. Trump could have pushed a federal lockdown and a federal mask mandate and you guys would have thrown down your masks and gathered in large crowds calling him a fascist. No matter what he did, no matter the results you guys would have ridiculed Trump.
But if you want to talk about post covid, you can't give Biden credit for that. Look at total nonfarm employment by states. States that opened up early like FL, GA and TX reached their pre-covid employment numbers faster compared to states that pushed the lockdowns like NY, CA, MI and MN. In fact, MN did not reach their pre-covid employment numbers until this year where FL, GA and TX reached them in the summer of 2021. Who is governor of MN? There were no new jobs under Biden, they were jobs that came back when states opened up their economies. In fact, two years in a row the job report had to be redone as they overstated the "new jobs" where the recent one overstated it by nearly a million.
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@Tony38533 yes, democrat governors did the shutdowns.
"In April of 2020 the case fatality rate at the time was 6.39%. That means that almost 6% of the people who got COVID would have died from it"
That is actually not true as many already had it but did not know. A NEJM paper titled
"Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted"
Used the cruise ship data and said this about covid
"If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively."
Fauci was the lead author on that paper and the NEJM has the highest impact factor of all peer reviewed journals.
"And here's a big clue, hospitals beds are not free"
The only place that saw hospitals being overran was NY. Other states were not. Also, it wasn't novel to have hospitals be overran. In 2018 there was a city in California who had to build temporary ICUs from tents as they were being overran by patients with the flu. We did not shut down then.
Trump did all he could do with covid, it wasn't his fault that democrats kept the lockdowns going. If you look up FRED stats of All Employees: Total Nonfarm in X state, and go state by state, states that ended the lockdowns sooner reached their pre-covid employment numbers around a year sooner than states that kept the lockdowns going. States like FL, GA and TX reached their pre-covid employment numbers months before states like NY, CA and MI.
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@Tony38533 so you expect the unemployment rate to drop over 5% when it was already sitting at 4.6%? Again, math is not your strong suit. Also, again, there is more to the economy than unemployment. Wages rose faster under Trump, worker participation rate was growing under Trump.
"Then by Feb. of 2020 the Trump recession started."
Sigh, a recession is 2 straight quarters of negative GDP growth. That did not happen. Please learn what a recession is.
"By March 2020 the unemployment rate had risen to 4.4% "
Ok, and? That is when the lockdowns were starting. March was when travel restrictions were being put in place along with covid being called a national emergency. I was in grad school still and I remember restaurants were only doing take out prior to spring break, which was in March. And after spring break there were the lockdowns.
" Instead of relying on the Bush plan and doing contact tracing Trump just ignored COVID until he couldn't. "
He didn't ignore it, he did several things within his power. He also did not want to create a panic. In fact, he approached it very well. Democrats were the ones freaking out leading to unnecessary long lockdowns where gyms were shut down but liquor stores were considered essential. Many of the restrictions made no sense. As a federal judge in Wisconsin said, shutting down the small hair salon does not reduce the demand for hair products, it just has more people gathering in large stores like Walmart. So that ended the restrictions overnight. Should have done it sooner as he was correct, many of the covid restrictions made no sense. The reality is that they were designed to destroy the economy to beat Trump.
Explain to me how a gym is shut down but a liquor store is essential?
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@noway1844 uh.......on that time where he made the fine people on both sides comment.. Here is the full comment
"Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo — and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. …
It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too."
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@joetheschmoe2 what is the scope of the job as president? A part of it is to rally the American people. So when FDR rallied the people to dislike Japanese-Americans and incarcerated them in reaction of Pearl Harbor, was he in the wrong? Many have said he was in the wrong. However, at that time the American people did not like them, at least not the ones who are Japanese.
A reason why Trump was elected is because many people are sick of how corrupt and divisive our federal government is along with our major institutions. Just like how people did not like the Japanese in the early 40s.
You bring up tax fraud, the president is paid in a unique way compared to us. Trump said he would not receive any of the $400,000 a year he was supposed to be paid. So his taxes are different immediately. is it beyond the scope of his job in doing that? That is not really for you or I to decide. We have checks and balances in our system for that reason. If Biden were to have Trump executed then the House will impeach him and hopefully the Senate will remove him from office. If not, then you start going down the line of individual states seeing Biden as a threat and start taking actions with state militia.
We have a checks and balance system in place. None of these people are completely free from immunity. There are forms of punishment on them. If Biden were to order the military to march into a state and start detaining citizens that would be a direct attack on that state causing that state, and many others to react.
Also, you have the other issue of double jeopardy. With Jan 6th Trump was impeached and the Senate made their ruling. The fact that the senate ruled Trump did nothing wrong based on their standards, why should he be tried again? You talk about dangerous path, that is one.
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@thomasgomez4263 again, more complex than that. The US is set up like this.
The federal government is there to deal with two things; foreign affairs and commerce between states. It is there to serve the states and thus states send in representatives. You have two sets; the House sent by the people, and the Senate which, originally, was sent by the states. However, the balance of the House and Senate is that each state is represented equally along with based on population. The federal government does not make decisions based on what the people want but instead is based on the states. Thus, the states decide who is president via the electoral college. As such, the federal government has little to no influence on individuals' lives.
At the state and local level is where government serves the people. At the local level you have a louder voice. So while in most cases the majority rules, you also have a louder voice and laws are easier to change at the local level. Along with that, you can move to a different state and remain a US citizens. So while at the local level on the surface it seems like the majority rules the minority, it is not that simple. People at the local level have a louder voice and you can move.
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@bradleygerber7317 the representative from their district comes from the popular vote of that district. The senate for years was chosen by the state, eventually it came to a vote of the people, but of only in that state.
The entire country could hate Senator could hate Ted Cruz or Chuck Schumer, it does not matter because if the people of TX and NY, respectively, like them then they get into the Senate. So the majority of the people in the US could hate those senators, but they can still get in.
Same with members of the house, but at an even smaller level. The entire country could hate AOC or Lauren Bobert, it does not matter because if the people in their respective districts like them they become a member.
Those representatives are voted in by their constituents to represent them at the federal level. As is Congress has an approval rating in the 20s, and has for years. The vast majority disapproves of Congress, but they have a high retention rate. Why? Because people like their representative. I bet the people who support AOC hate Lauren Bobert, but that means nothing as Lauren does not depend on their vote. Lauren could vote for every bill that the supporters of AOC hate and it would not matter because Lauren does not represent them.
Me, personally, I do not approve of either AOC or Lauren, but that means nothing as I cannot vote for either. Sticking to the house, I can vote in my one representative but in the end that is all I have, nothing else. And I have to trust that representative will vote on issues that I support.
So when it comes to the actual laws and issue at the federal level, the people really don't have a say.
BTW, I am not are republican. I will say this, you support the EC because you want to demolish the entire system and establish federal rule with a dictatorship.
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@bradleygerber7317 sigh......again, the reason why there is an electoral vote and the president is not selected by the majority is, now watch the bouncing ball here
The federal government serves the states, not the people. Thus the states decide who is president. And no, the "only anomaly" does not reside in the electoral college. When a federal law is passed do the people vote on it? No, never.
"Using your example, it would be absolutely insane to think that Californians should have any say in who is voted to represent Colorado. Therefore, our popular vote system at the lower levels is just fine. The electoral college at the presidential level is the only thing that doesn't make sense."
Actually, your example supports the electoral college. The president cannot create nor enforce laws at the state and local level. For example, during the BLM riots Trump wanted to send in troops to stop them. However, he could not as the president cannot send in troops to enforce state and local laws without consent of the governor. Thus, at the state level the popular vote works in electing governors as the governor can enforce laws on the people. However, the president does not enforce laws on the people, it does on the states.
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@m.jasondoty9062 sigh, from Cornell Law
"The Ninth Amendment provides that the enumeration of certain rights in the Constitution should not be construed to mean that the Constitution does not protect rights that are not enumerated. The Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights to address fears that expressly protecting certain rights might be misinterpreted implicitly to sanction the infringement of others.1
Few Supreme Court cases offer significant analysis of the Ninth Amendment. Prior to 1965, litigants occasionally invoked the Amendment, often along with the Tenth Amendment or other provisions of the Bill of Rights, to challenge the constitutionality of government actions, but the Court consistently rejected those claims.2 In 1965, in Griswold v. Connecticut, a majority of the Court cited the Ninth Amendment, along with the substantive rights protected by the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments, and held that the Constitution protects “penumbral rights of ‘privacy and repose’” that bar a state from prohibiting the use of contraception by married couples.3 By contrast, in the 1973 case Roe v. Wade, the Court grounded a constitutional right to abortion in the Fourteenth Amendment rather than the Ninth.4
Overall, the Court has generally treated the Ninth Amendment as a rule of construction for the Constitution rather than a freestanding guarantee of any substantive rights. Thus, in Richmond Newspapers v. Virginia, a plurality of the Court referred to the Amendment as a “sort of constitutional ‘saving clause,’ which, among other things, would serve to foreclose application to the Bill of Rights of the maxim that the affirmation of particular rights implies a negation of those not expressly defined.” "
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@jeremyserwer2586 as for dividing the US, the US was divided prior to Trump. He just exposed it.
"The biggest lie about trumps peace, trump has spent the last 8+ years further dividing the US and calling for violence against fellow americans"
OK when? Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables. Biden calls them a threat to democracy. When did Trump ever ridicule Biden and Clinton voters as a whole? Never. He ridiculed the elites. After Charlottesville, where he condemned violence on both sides, because both sides were violent, he also said, correctly, that there were good people on both sides.
Compare that to the elites who paint one side as completely bad. Trump is honest, there are violent people on both sides, but there are good people on both sides. You have the elites on the left calling Trump voters dangerous and a threat to democracy. That is divisive.
Tell me, how is Trump a fascist? I gave you examples of how Clinton and Biden divided us. You are making claims wiht no evidence.
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@MeneTekelUpharsin to start you don't even know how to look. You want to look up "educational attainment", not "most educated state". One can be highly educated without even holding a degree. Educational attainment means having an associate degree or higher, which in itself is very vague.
Next, that stat depends on the economy of said state. Take Los Alamos, NM. They are top in PhD's per capita. Well, it just so happens you have the Los Alamos National Lab there which a lot of research scientist. I would not consider someone with an associates degree working there. But overall politics has nothing to do with that situation. You may say "der, NM votes blue", they voted for a republican president as recently as 2004. And they have been switching back and forth between republican and democrat governor. NM voted red many times. The national lab was founded in 1943 and the location was picked as it was an ideal spot to study nuclear bombs. So right away, just picking one small town in the US your concept goes up in smoke. That is why I am saying this is a complex issue. You have something as simple as a national lab in an area will skew the results of educational attainment.
Now when you look up states by educational attainment on US News number 2 is Massachusetts. If you look up Top 10 Pharmaceutical Hubs in USA on proclincal Boston-Cambridge, MA is number one. New Jersey is number 3 where on US News they are 7 in educational attainment. Now is that because they are "blue states" they have higher educational attainment? Or that a big portion of their economy is based on the pharma companies? It is the latter. Remember, NJ recently had Chris Christie as governor.
So this all goes back to what drives the economy of that state and local area. As I said with West Virginia, it is big on coal mining, you don't need a college degree for that. That doesn't make the people dumb or unproductive.
Also, back to that list being vague, what degree did they get? If you state has a lot of people with philosophy degrees or history degrees, degrees that don't produce much, I would not say that is a success. The coal miners produce more.
You see what I did there? I cited my sources and I broke them down. That is why your and Pakman's talking points are just that, talking points. These are complex issues.
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@guypanton8341 actually a lot of people here are saying things about a living wage. You bring up different cost of living in each area, well, then get rid of the federal min. wage. Agree?
" A worker must eat, sleep, stay healthy enough to work, meet certain hygiene standards, get to and from work, etc. When the minimum wage isn’t enough for these basic things, it’s too low. "
Which is you hinting at a "living wage" which is my point. You are alluding to that. And once again, if the min. wage you set is the average, then what about the people above the average in terms of financial need? Just forget about them?
The problem is that the min. wage is a way too oversimplified solution to a complex issue. It has never worked and has never benefited anyone.
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@Savalatte well many reasons. To start, under him the economy was much stronger and the world was a more peaceful place. First president to not get us involved in a new war. Spearheading the Abraham Accords, pulling out of the Iran deal. On the economy based on many stats the economy was strong. Homeownership rate was growing were years prior it was dropping. Labor participation rate was growing where years prior it was dropping. Inflation was low, interest rates were low. Wage growth was higher under Trump than it was under Obama.
Another reason is that Trump called out the liberal elites while actually supporting the people. Answer me this, when has Trump ever ridiculed Clinton and Biden voters as whole? Never. Clinton called Trump supporters a group of deplorables, Biden called them a threat to democracy. That is division. Division was happening before that. Romney said 47% of people pay no federal taxes and it is not his job to worry about them. Well, he was in congress for years, why didn't he push to change the tax code? Just like Clinton said Trump paid no taxes where Trump pointed out Clinton has been in congress, why didn't she change the tax code? Trump was able to get his tax cuts.
Back on division, Obama said that rural voters only care about guns and gods and said business owners did not build their businesses. Again, Trump never ridiculed the people. Yes, he ridiculed the elites which is fine. The elites like Obama, Romney, Clinton and Biden are punching down. Trump is punching up for the people. You can call him a bully but who is a bully? Trump calling Biden Sleepy Joe or Joe calling Trump supporters a threat to democracy?
I can keep going, but in the end under him things were better and he went after the elites and never the people where the elites for years have been going after the people.
To add, the elites want division. Answer this, why didn't the democrats pass The Freedom of Choice Act to make abortion legal federally? They had the chance in 2009. Why didn't they raise taxes on the rich? They had their chance? Because with them they need these issues to exist so they can always run on them. Trump was getting things done and improving the nation.
I can keep going.
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@Savalatte
1. To give you an answer, it is because the elites want problems to exist so they can run on them. Look at gay marriage. When the supreme court essentially made it legal federally both parties could not run on it. The big issue now is the trans issue. That is why our leaders do not solve problems. That is why the democrats did not make abortion legal federally, they need it to be an issue. That is why the democrats did not pass tax reform to raise taxes on the rich, they need the issue to exist. Or with republicans, they could not pass tax cuts like Trump did. Republicans focused too much on social issues.
2. Under Trump the economy was strong. He reduced the size of the federal government which allowed for the free market to reign. I can break down many stats but looking at homeownership rate alone, from 2004 to 2016 it dropped around 6%. Under Trump it grew around 5%. A part of the American dream is to own a home, Under Trump that was a reality. Not under Biden/Harris. Trump was really hands off with the federal government and the economy thrived. That is the opposite of what Biden did and prior administrations did as well.
3. I completely disagree here. The vast majority of people are good people. You say "Clinton basically said roughly half of Trump voters are biased against others (racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc.) " is a problem. They are not sexist or racists or xenophobic. You are making assumptions about people you don't even know. That is a problem. You are immediately dismissing people without understanding who they are and what they believe. That is why so many people became angered. Just because we have a difference in the direction the nation should take does not make us racist. That was the problem under Obama, if you disagreed with him at all you were called a racist.
As for Biden you said this
" because a huge percent of Republicans deny the election results and support attempts to take over the government by force. Again, they chose their positions."
If you want to talk about election denial the democrats said for years that there was Russia collusion of the 2016 election and had a full investigation. Heck, I am old enough to remember the 2000 election that many on the left still deny and said was stolen. You must be young and thus do not know about that. And who tried to take the government by force? No one. Please do not bring up Jan 6th, that was nothing. The votes were still confirmed that same day and nothing has happened sense. So I can turn Biden's comments on you. I won't. Trump does not either.
4. "Trump has recently proposed calling upon the national guard/military onto the "radical left" and what he termed the "enemy within.""
Ok, and......? He does not say the American people. And when did he say he will call the national guard? Funny how you never give a direct quote. He is clearly talking about the leaders on the left and not the people.
" Trump and other GOP elites (including politicans, related media, & pundits) have all said TONS of negative things towards Democrats and other types they dislike including women, certain ethnic or national groups, immigrants, foreign religions, LGBTQ, atheists/unbelievers, single people, and their new hate group, childless people. "
Ignore the other GOP elites and focus on Trump, what comments? Please give them. And please explain how they were directed towards the American people? Trump calling out the liberal elites is not calling out the people who vote for them. Biden calling Trump supporters a threat to democracy is. Not to be rude but at this point you are living in a fantasy land. This is why you cannot provide any direct quotes. You are making things up. That is a problem.
I see you brought up Project 2025 which is literally nothing. Trump does not endorse it, Trump did not write it. No one on the right supports it nor talks about it. The left talks about it a lot because they can't run on their record. I never heard of Project 2025 anywhere except on left wing sources. No one on the right talks about it because it basically does not exist.
Please, stop the fear mongering. There are many reasons why I support Trump, I laid them out. But one reason is because of you. If Trump wins and when he does not install project 2025 and does not call out the military on the people I will say "I told you so".
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@alexandredesmarais3848 prices go down all the time, it is common. That is what makes inflation such a challenge at times to monitor. Take a car. Cars today cost more than in the 50s in pure sticker price, but cars today are safer, last longer and get better gas mileage, all that saves money. Expansion of technology leads to lower prices but growth all around. And it is more than homeownership prices. I live in TX and car insurance is high. Why? Because we have a lot of illegals here driving without car insurance. So if you get in an accident with an illegal without car insurance it is coming out of your insurance. Under Trump's first term we saw labor participation rate grow where years prior it was falling. So where do you get this idea that there will be labor shortages? Again, we had a Trump presidency. We have the numbers. He is going to simply continue what he was doing already.
Obama's presidency was not good. That is why people voted for Trump. I am focused on more than homeownership rate. I looked at gas prices, wage growth and other metrics. Unemployment can be low but doesn't matter if wages are low. We can make unemployment be almost zero is we ban the tractor, is that the economic model we want?
Inflation did not happen worldwide. Japan had low inflation, so did France. Also, you can blame democrats for the unnecessary shut down of businesses. Biden's vaccine mandate also did not help leading to people retiring early and thus a labor shortage there. Seems like democrats messed up the economy that Trump has to fix. The infrastructure bill also produces nothing. Giving money to Proterra was not a success.
On the department of education, again, 90 to 92 percent of funding for public education is state and local. Most federal funding goes to Title I schools. State and local governments run public education. They set the standards, they set the funding. The federal department of education did not exist until the 70s. It should be removed with the funds being distributed back to the states. And again, states and local governments set the curriculum, not the federal department of education. Again, not to be rude, but you need to learn how these programs function before you have an opinion. That is why you have different school districts. In the city I live in you have several different school districts that are funded differently. There are different property tax rates depending on the suburb you live in and thus the school district you cover. They fund certain programs differently. They set standards that align with that state. Every state has different standards. The federal government basically has very little role in public education and needs to go.
As for Trump being a top 5, his first term was already arguably a top 10. I saw that list by so called historians. Several things. One, historians should know better that history teaches you to be humble. To not be so emotional. There is a historian that refuses to rank recent presidents because of that. Several presidents had history be more kind to them. Jimmy Carter was one, considered one of the worst but over time has rose in the rankings as people said he was a good person but a bad president. But promoting Volcker was a good choice in the long run. Also, that ranking had William Henry Harrison, how can you rank him? Along with that, what are those historians' credentials? Someone who is an expert in Roman history might not be the best to approach when it comes to presidential history.
" Economists have warned that his policies are inflationary and even if he makes the economy better, his incompetent cabinet picks, highly divisive rhetoric and rampant corruption are sure to cause plenty of trouble."'
What economists? Again, we already had a Trump presidency, things were great. So who are these economists? And how are his cabinet picks incompetent? How can you say that after Biden's cabinet? That was one of the worst cabinets ever. And what divisive rhetoric? The number one reason why I support Trump was that he pushed back against the divisive rhetoric of politicians, especially from the left. Sorry, but Harris called Trump supporters nazis. Biden called them garbage.
I ask this as no one has ever answered, but when has Trump ever ridiculed Clinton, Biden or Harris voters as a whole? Never. Clinton called Trump voters deplorables, Harris called then nazis, Biden called them a threat to democracy and garbage. Trump pushed back calling the elites like Harris dumb. Which is worse? Under Trump we are going to see the people unite. Many who were mislead by the elites that voted against Trump will see how great he is and ended up supporting him in the end adding to the fact that he will be a top 5 president of all time.
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@sionandjess I did not say they will not treat them, what I said is they will have to wait a long time. In the US our prices are high for many reasons. One is that we do have a for profit healthcare system with many restrictions. But in the US, when it comes to advanced care we are the best. We have the shortest wait times and the best outcomes. Other nations have prices low because when it comes advanced care there is a long wait list.
It is comparable to rent control. Yes, capping rent means lower rent prices for poor people, but the quality of the apartments/homes are terrible. And the access to high quality apartments/rent are limited.
Now there is a debate on if we should be giving high quality of care to people at that part of their life, but in the US people have access to it with little to no wait times.
As for your holiday days off, you are contradicting yourself. That is my point. You, on one side is saying people deserve access to healthcare. But then say workers deserve holidays off. Well, come those holidays what about healthcare workers? Do they not deserve holidays off? Why do they have to work? You are not answering my questions.
So, do healthcare workers get holidays off or not? Is so, why? You said workers in the UK get holidays off, but why not healthcare workers? You are contradicting yourself.
Point being, someone has to work, period. So before you criticize the US, or any nation, learn how life works before you make things up.
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@rickglorie 1. Oh so now that "fight" is different? Now I know the real you. You bring up equality, so when BLM burns down a business or tries to burn down a federal court house, that is OK because Harris did not mean that when she and other democrats say "fight"? Or when Maxine Waters say to get "more confrontational". When when a trans person shoots up a Christian school, that is not what the left means when they say to "fight" for LGBTQ+ people? You are the one acting in bad faith.
As for trial by combat, you can have combat without violence. One definition for combat is "take action to reduce or prevent". An action can be writing an opinion article, or doing a protest.
To you when the right says it they mean violence, but if the left says it they do not. That shows your true colors.
Let me ask you this, how did you feel about the months of BLM riots in 2020 that were supported by Harris, Ted Wheeler, Maxine Waters and other democrats?
2. She may think she is acting on her constituents, but the point of my question is this. She made a ruling based on her interpretation of the law. If the court overrules her then her interpretation was incorrect. That is normal.
It is no different than Trump. His legal team interpreted a law in a certain way. He was overruled. Does not mean he lied, he had a different interpretation of the law. That is common. That is why we have a court system with many layers.
If the US supreme court overrules the CO supreme court, does it mean they lied?
You say Trump is toast, Jan 6 2024 is tomorrow. It has been 3 years. If he is so toast what is taking so long?
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@Trump2PrisonOn34Counts you do for legal reasons. An example is Title IX when it comes to sports. Even though the let want men to participate in sports, it is still a thing for the most part to have men and women be separate. As such you need to give equal funding to both men and women sports via Title IX. You need a distinction. Same with other situations as well.
"As for protons and neutrons, I note you left out electrons, quark hadrons including the up, down, strange, bottom, and top.
Maybe ... you should keep your nose out of pants that didn't issue you an invitation. And physics."
This was my point on science, we have defined terms. In science we differentiate between male and female to study certain situations. An example is Bateman's principle. I used Proton and Neutrons due to my physics background (PhD in physical chemistry) as an example. When you compare they two they are very similar in mass (neutrons have slightly more as they can do beta decay to a proton, electron and an anti-neutrino). They both exist in a nucleus. A big difference is that is that a proton has a charge, a neutron does not. So you can have 16O and 18O, both are oxygen atom, one has two more neutrons.
If you want me to go deeper in elementary particle physics I can. I can pull my Modern Physics by Krane and we can go for a ride there.
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"They can't accept the fact that their leader has been found guilty, even if he doesn't give a damn about them"
Couple things. This is a sham trial. You break it down this was clearly 100% rigged and in the big picture one side arresting their political opponents is what leads to dictatorships.
Next, a reason why Trump is such a threat to the liberal elites is because he is for the people. Think about all the times the liberal elites had the chance to solve problems and issues and don't. Why? Because those problems and issues need to exist or they can't run off of them. Take abortion. Obama said in a town hall first thing he will do is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. Democrats had the congress and Obama was president in 2009, why didn't they sign it? Because if abortion is legal federal it is no longer an issue to run off of.
Take gay marriage, how come democrats did not push for federal laws to make it legal? When the SC made it legal democrats could not run off of it, so they now run on the trans issue.
During the debate Clinton said Trump paid no taxes. Trump point out that Clinton was in congress for years, why didn't she correct it? Well one, her and her rich buds will have to pay and two, they could not rally on "tax the rich". Heck, Biden is currently president and he recently made a comment on we need to end trickle down economics. What has he been doing the past 4 years?
Under Trump people's lives were improving, the liberal elites could not have that. It is also why they cannot run on their record but instead say "Trump bad".
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@josephlongfellow6831 I did not fail on anything. It was not lawfully extended. Legislation is needed to change laws. A governor cannot just change a law. Allowing that makes them a dictator, ironic here.
The jury knew nothing. They were given three choices to go off of, that is now how the system works. Pick one and go with it. If the jury cannot agree on one then that is a hung jury, that is how the system is designed. It isn't "well here are many options to pick from, go". And again, one was election interference which is, now watch the bouncing ball here, a federal law and thus needs to be tried in federal court.
"Again, they didn't have to prove that he committed the felony, "
Actually you do. You say
" just that he had intent in order to conceal another crime."
That is not how the legal system works as now you are assuming guilt of another crime. You cannot do that. You are innocent until proven guilty. Until Trump has been found guilty of those three so called crimes then you cannot tie this case to them, period.
That is why this case is going to get overturned in an appeal. This is why the sentencing has now been delayed as even the prosecutor knows, with the recent SC ruling, that at some point this could reach the supreme court and they will overturn this crazy ruling. The prosecutor knows their case has nothing so they delayed the sentencing. If the case was so strong why
1. Did they wait so long
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2. Why are they now delaying the sentencing?
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@josephlongfellow6831 " Why did they wait so long? First and foremost, you can't charge a sitting president"
You can, and the can be brought forth to congress for impeachment. Again, the FEC looked into it and found nothing. Also, this could have been brought up in 2021, 2022 and 2023. But it so happen to occur during election time, hmmmm.........
"They are delaying sentencing, because Trump filed and the judge has to look over the case and hear arguments. "
That is not true at all. The prosecutor had a date set. They changed it when the SC ruling on immunity recently came out. It is showing that the higher courts are against the corrupt local court that brought this case on Trump.
"The judges specifically told jurors that the prosecutors only need to prove that Trump had the intent to commit or conceal another crime, rather than prove the other crime was committed or aided."
Two things; one, that was never in writing. Two, that is now how the justice system works. You do not assume guilt, period. You can't say he intended to cover up another crime when he was never even charged for another crime. What crime did he try to cover up? Let us say election interference. Ok, was he found guilty of election interference? No. Well then how could have tried to cover up a crime he was never found guilty of? That makes zero sense.
Again, this is why an appeals court, even if it has to go all the way up to the SC, will overturn this. You can't say that Trump tried to cover up a crime he was never found guilty of. If he was not found guilty of a crime then he did not try to cover up anything.
What is so hard to understand here?
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@ChadRD more to it than that. To start, look at wage growth. Even though according to FRED there was an increase in labor participation, thus an increase in the supply of labor, wage growth was higher under Trump than it was under Obama according to the Atlanta Federal Reserve. Under Obama it was around 2%, under Trump it was over 3%. But a big one was the wage growth of the bottom 1/4 earners. Under Obama it was around 2%, under Trump it was around 5%. So the lower income earners were seeing a higher wage growth under Trump than under Obama.
Or take homeownership. From 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped 6%, under Trump it grew 5%, according to FRED. Take gas prices, gas prices, according to FRED, were lower under Trump compared to Obama and Biden.
I can go on with even more numbers. Look at FRED total nonfarm employees. Under Obama's 8 years the lowest was 129 million and peaked to 144 million, so around 15 million jobs. Under Trump it was 144 million to 152 million in 3 years. So 15/8 is 1.875 million jobs a year. For Trump 8/3 is 2.67 million jobs a year. Job growth was higher under Trump. So Trump had more job creation.
I can keep going.
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@stephendre2902 "There are no facts to back up what he is saying. Very common Reich wing tactic."
Now you resort to name calling. Typical of the left when they can't make a counter argument.
If you are referring to the question about a ratio of republicans and democrats committing crimes leading to expulsion, that is hard data to come by. To start, how do you want to balance it out? Federal or local? How a federal politician acts is different than a local one. Also, federal politicians are held under more scrutiny.
Next, how crime is measured differs across the nation. Along with that, the standard of local communities differ. Going back to covid as an example. Many rural areas opened up May 1, 2020 where many urban communities, especially on the coast remained lock down. What they expect from politicians locally differ. Also, how often does it get reported? And then you have a situation like here that could lead to this politician having a drinking problem and seeks therapy. Abby Broyles went on an alcohol fueled tirade and later saw therapy for alcohol dependence and anxiety.
Point being is that you want this to be black and white so you can have your side "win" which is divisive. I am a moderate, not a "Reich winger". I want the best side to win. Right now I see the political left do this divisive tactic far too often and defending their own. Look at Jamaal Bowman and how, basically along party lines he was voted to get censored for breaking the law by pulling a fire alarm. Many democrats were defending him and voted against the censorship. The left have gone insane and dangerous.
In the 90s Clinton was a great president, the last great democrat president. Since Obama the left have become divisive. In 2012 I voted for Jonathan Dine for senator even though I hated Claire and knew Dine had little chance to win. However, Todd Akin made a sick comment about rape and abortion so I could not vote for him.
I can call out both sides, apparently you can't.
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@danieldickson8591 "Well, you just undercut your arguments by saying there was no insurrection. No one had guns, just baseball bats, "
Where capitol police had guns. Joe Biden said many times to overthrow the government you need fighter jets and rocket launchers and canons. But how people on the left feel you can do it with baseball bats?
"There is extensive evidence of correspondence between the leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers planning the insurrection weeks before the event"
When? What evidence? Also, again, they did not have guns. You are undercutting your argument. One argument by those who support the 2nd amendment is to defend ourselves from an overreaching government or overthrowing a tyrannical government. But in this case no one brought guns? And an argument I hear from gun control supporters is that we won't be able to overthrow the government with an AR 15. But I guess we can with baseball bats and pepper spray against armed police. Gotcha
"Fourteen of those leaders were convicted of seditious conspiracy. "
But not for an insurrection.
"The Capitol is still standing, after $2.7 million in damages. One insurrectionist was killed, but hundreds of people were injured, including 174 police officers."
Ok, not true. That many police officers were not hurt. As for the damage done, $2.7 million is a drop in the bucket compared to our federal budget overall along with the months of rioting by BLM protests in 2020 that many democrats supported including Maxine Waters, Ted Wheeler and Kamala Harris.
"I found these facts with five minutes of searching. Don't parrot the lines of the rioters' apologists"
Care to give sources? Besides, I never once defended the rioters. What I felt they did was wrong. However, what they did was not an insurrection. Again, zero guns. People on the left make the claim that we can never use guns against the government as they have too much weaponry.. But apparently baseball bats and pepper spray works. Actual insurrections are extremely violent with a lot of deaths like the Civil War or the Arab Spring that led to around 61,000 deaths.
A few people releasing anger smashing windows for a few hours and leaving is not an insurrection. This is why no one has been charged for participating in an insurrection. Any charge will get removed from court almost immediately.
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@danieldickson8591 "Agreed. But a mob of people breaking into the Capitol, injuring the police trying to stop them; forcing the representatives to flee, then trashing the chambers of Congress; publicly demanding that Congress not certify the lawful election winner as President; and declaring their intention to hang the Vice-President, certainly sounds like it qualifies. "
Sigh.......so unarmed people, most who were let in by capitol police, with video evidencing showing that is not an insurrection. Were there rioters? Yes. But most were peaceful.
Also, using your freedom of speech to demand Congress not certify the the winner of the president is not illegal. That is called a protest. When Roe v Wade was overturned many protested outside of the supreme court making demands. Is that an insurrection? When Trump won in 2016 there were hundreds of protests and riots opposing it. There were riots in DC during Trump's inauguration, is that an insurrection? By your standard it is. And with Trump there were protests and riots lasting money. With Biden all you have is Jan 6th.
Again, I don't agree with what the rioters of Jan 6th did. But two things
1. It was not an insurrection
2. How people like you ignore the months of protest and riots against Trump and the months of riots by BLM in 2020. You turn a blind eye to that but when Jan 6th happened all of a sudden it is being compared to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, both events that led to 10s of thousands of deaths via the event and us entering wars.
Seriously, take off your bias, team politics glasses and try to be fair here.
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@alexd9550 "The due process is the investigation and public hearings. I'm doing nothing of the sort, that's just as disingenuous as if I said that you only hold your position because you like Santos"
I don't like Santos. Due process is doing a plea hearing, jury selection, trial by jury where witnesses are called and both the prosecutor and defendant can ask question.
" The politicians, theoretically, are held to account by the public, but in a case where they were deceived, congress should be able to do this."
Based on what ground Constitutionally? Still waiting for you to point that out. Based on the Constitution the people decide.
"It is not as if they just arbitrarily kicked him out, nobody is advocating for that kind of thing, at least not on this side of the aisle."
Just like how the left is kicking Trump off of the ballot without due process? We have a process for a reason to prevent exactly that, removing people for arbitrary reasons.
"I'm glad you brought up Pelosi, because she is the perfect example of why this argument from the right (not you personally) is fake, the GOP has called for removal and censure of democrats not only far more often, but for way less."
Care to give examples? You keep making these claims with no references or examples.
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@alexd9550 "Thats just completely false billy, come on. Multiple weapons and firearms charges, "
Oh, so now there are firearm charges. Before you agreed with me that they were not armed with guns.
"the capitol still existing is irrelevant, the Oath keepers and others planned violence,"
And I do not agree with the violence. You see, unlike you I am fair. I agree the riots and violence were wrong. I can call them out where I have a hard time seeing the left call out the violence during the anti Trump riots and the BLM riots. But the reality that was not an insurrection. Again, all I heard from the left was that we can never take on the government with our guns. But yet people can with baseball bats and pepper spray? That makes zero sense.
"most people are peacefull at BLM rallies and you would NEVER make that same distinction."
Sure, I can agree, but there was violence. Why can't you just call out that violence that lasted months? And at Jan 6th most were peaceful as well. There is a lot of video of police letting people in and them taking self tours and taking selfies. Why can't you admit that?
I am trying to be in good faith where you aren't.
1. You can't call out the violence of the BLM riots that lasted months where I can call out the violence Jan 6 that lasted a few hours
2. You can't admit most were peaceful Jan 6 with many videos showing that
3. You can't admit that Jan 6 was not an insurrection because, again, no one was armed with guns.
You see, I can call out both sides when needed, I don't play team politics here. I have a hard time seeing the left call out their own side.
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@Thebobbyman easy. Take the book "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt for example. He cited a study he did where he asked people from a wide range of political ideologies how they felt about certain issues. He then asked them to state what they thought the other side felt about those issues. Conservatives were better at predicting how liberals felt about issues compared to liberals predicting how conservatives felt. Those that did the worse? The ultra liberals.
To me it comes down to this. Those that lean right are more likely to go out and interact with the public. They see that most people are generally good people all around.
Those on the left end up stuck in their bubble, their inner circle of friends. That does not make them bad people, most live in an urban area where it takes 30 minutes, at least, to commute to a certain place. So most just stay in a small area. As a result they do not see reality. They do not see outside of their bubble. Their perception of reality is what they see on TV, on the media. So you take this to the extreme case and you get Jussie Smollett who had to make up a story claiming there is racism and bigotry in this nation. Or on the minor scale, you get leftists, democrat voters who feel Trump supporters are uneducated fools when most are normal people.
I am a Trump supporter. I bet if you were to meet me you would not even have guessed, especially if you were to know my resume. But, when you live in a bubble and never actually interact with a Trump supporter, and your viewpoint of them is from what the liberal elites tell you, you get a distorted and false sense of reality.
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@TheFunGun5 look again, here is what I wrote
"easy. Take the book "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt for example. He cited a study he did where he asked people from a wide range of political ideologies how they felt about certain issues. He then asked them to state what they thought the other side felt about those issues. Conservatives were better at predicting how liberals felt about issues compared to liberals predicting how conservatives felt. Those that did the worse? The ultra liberals.
To me it comes down to this. Those that lean right are more likely to go out and interact with the public. They see that most people are generally good people all around.
Those on the left end up stuck in their bubble, their inner circle of friends. That does not make them bad people, most live in an urban area where it takes 30 minutes, at least, to commute to a certain place. So most just stay in a small area. As a result they do not see reality. They do not see outside of their bubble. Their perception of reality is what they see on TV, on the media. So you take this to the extreme case and you get Jussie Smollett who had to make up a story claiming there is racism and bigotry in this nation. Or on the minor scale, you get leftists, democrat voters who feel Trump supporters are uneducated fools when most are normal people.
I am a Trump supporter. I bet if you were to meet me you would not even have guessed, especially if you were to know my resume. But, when you live in a bubble and never actually interact with a Trump supporter, and your viewpoint of them is from what the liberal elites tell you, you get a distorted and false sense of reality."
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@AnyProofOfTheseClaims " It's worse than you think. He can't read a graph, doesn't know how to differentiate between a primary and secondary source, "
Actually I read graphs just fine. And again, there really isn't a "primary and secondary" source. When I wrote my peer reviewed papers I wasn't doing "primary and secondary" sources, I was doing references. On FBI data I literally gave you hard numbers and you denied them. All you said was "look at the FBI report" in which I did and gave you the actual numbers where you gave me nothing.
"doesn't understand wage growth vs real wage growth"
I understand that very well and cited the Atlanta Federal Reserve where you, again, you cited nothing. And again, I gave you the numbers where you provided nothing.
"and thinks Covid was planned. "
It was. So ironic how when impeachment failed that came along in an election year. And how Sweden, a nation not a part of NATO did not do any lockdowns and ended up in the same position as every other European nation.
"Oh, and as you see here will literally deny video evidence and say the rioters were political prisoners."
There is video showing most were peaceful. Again, police letting people in to do a self tour is not a riot. Were there some bad actors? Yes. However, most were peaceful. What happened that day was basically nothing. After they left Congress was still able to meet up and confirmed the votes. If it was so bad the capital would have been completely shut down to do a full investigation. I remember when on person was murdered on interstate 80 in CA and they shut the whole interstate down for one man.
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@noway1844 “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,”
Talking about the elites, not voters.
“the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.”
Again, talking about leadership.
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"To put a narcissistic psychopath in a position of power is a horrible idea, as it's quite dangerous."
Trump is not a psychopath, but basically everyone who rises up to that position is a narcissist. Trump is, Bush is, Obama is, Biden is, Jill Biden is, Harris is, Obama is, Clinton is, etc. It comes with the territory. That is because those people are the only ones willing to get to that position. That is why the founding fathers created a system of checks and balances and limited government.
"Trump is a menace and should be hospitalized"
You saying that shows your bias. You have never done any personal evaluation of Trump. I recommend you turn back your degree (if you actually have one) and stop trying to play doctor.
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@alcibiadeslives walls help. Nothing is ideal, but walls and barriers help.
As for tax cuts for the wealthy, as Trump said in the debate against Clinton, she was in the senate for years, why didn't she raise taxes on them? Obama in his first two years had congress on his side including a super majority in the Senate. Why didn't they raise taxes on the wealthy then? Trump was able to get his tax cut on the middle and lower class through with zero democrat support. What are the excuse by the democrats?
As for Roe v Wade, abortion is not a right, thus, like murder and traffic laws, it is a state issue.
" Removing that has made it significantly more difficult for many women to get access to abortions."
Actually not true as most states still allow it. that is why abortion is pretty much a non issue now, people have seen no changes overall. Just states set the laws now.
" The majority of men and women in the country disapprove of the decision of the Supreme Court in this matter"
And so what? If that is true then it will be legal at the state level as, again, abortion is not a right and thus is a state issue. I am pretty much pro choice myself in supporting rare, safe and legal, but I support the standard of the Constitution first.
Also, in 2008 Obama said in a town hall one of the first things he will do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. Why didn't he? Why didn't congress, which democrats controlled, pass it? Here you are complaining about taxes and Roe being overturned when democrats have done nothing on their end.
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@James-gq4tb "when it comes to the damage to our country, January 6 was objectively worse than Pearl Harbor, and 911, as it was nearly the end of the entire country"
And this is what is pathetic, that was not the case. I have heard from the left for years that our guns could never take on the government. But on Jan 6th a bunch of people, unorganized with no guns, could? Seriously, what do you think was going to happen if they did somehow stop the vote? Police come in, arrest them, then congress gathers at a later date and go again.
This is why you guys are insane. These people had no guns. Most were peaceful. Many police just stood at their posts. After a few hours the left. How was that ever going to overthrow the government?
And again, the left constantly say our guns could never take on the government. But in this case people with on guns almost did?
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@bonecrayon so what if 7 republican senators voted to convict Trump. You need 67 total senators. Guess what, that did not happen. Also, there were many republicans that hated Trump as well. That is why so many support Trump, his supporters are sick of both sides being divisive.
"You whataboutism about BLM is lame and irrelevant. Were they trying to overturn a democratic election? "
No, and neither was Trump. Really, so you call telling a bunch of unarmed citizens at the last minute to go to the capital and peacefully protest overthrowing the election?
""Some overacted"? Is that why they bought iron bars, pepper spray and cable ties? Is that why they wiped shit on the walls?"
I have seen the hours of videos. Almost all were peaceful. How does smearing shit on the wall overturn an election? How does showing up with iron bars, not guns, overturn an election? Also, when did I ever defend those who acted violently? All I am saying is that it is not an insurrection. An insurrection takes months of planning, takes organization, and takes time to complete. It is not telling people unarmed people to protest peacefully at the last minute with no clear plan or guidance.
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Trump being rich does not mean he cannot relate to people. People like Trump because they see him as the person to fight for them. Not everyone can become rich, and most have no desire to do the actions to become rich. Trump is rich, yes. He did so by working, by taking risks and serving the people. That as opposed to being a corrupt politician. However, his lifestyle led to him having no privacy, traveling a lot, being heavily scrutinized, etc. A life most do not want to live. Most want to mind their own business.
People see Trump as the person to take on the liberal elites that talk down to them and try to control others. Sorry, Biden calling Trump voters a threat to democracy while hiding in the basement, Clinton calling them deplorables while hanging out with her friends in 2016 vs Trump holding rallies, even in small towns shows big differences.
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@brianfergus839 1. The stock market being up does not necessarily benefit the average person
2. Unemployment is dependent on people looking for a job. Worker participation rate, according to FRED, is below pre-covid levels. Unemployment is low because less people are looking for jobs meaning productivity is down
3. Energy production only went up because other nations like Saudi Arabia and members of OPEC laughed at Biden when he asked them for oil
4. Nations with lower inflation: Canada, Japan, France, UK, Germany. Seriously, get facts correct before you get to opinions
5. There was not record high job creation. They were jobs recovered because states decided to open back up. Look up Total Nonfarm employees FRED stats for states like FL, TX and GA and compared to states like CA, NY and MI. The latter three reached pre-covid numbers later compare to FL, TX and GA because they kept their lockdowns going.
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You can cite the Constitution 100% and still ignore many important details. There is a reason why justices also cite court cases. The problem here is that there has been no due process with Trump. How can you say he committed an insurrection when he was never given a trial by jury and was convicted? He said
"From my perspective, just because a hearing was held and (Trump) participated, it doesn’t mean that due process was observed."
Justice Samour said
"President Trump was not offered the opportunity to request a jury of his peers; experts opined about some of the facts surrounding the January 6 incident and theorized about the law."
And this leads to where some parts of the Constitution was not cited such as the 5th and 6th amendment. One can write an opinion and cite the 14th amendment the whole time to which yes, they cited the Constitution. But they left out key parts.
"Btw 2 conservative justices have previously writen about thier in depth knowledge of how presidents are not above the law to the constitution"
Which I, and others agree. The problem here is that Trump was not convicted of any crime to remove him from the ballot. There was no trial, no jury selection, no witnesses called, no defense statements, etc. So you can't say Trump broke the law when he was not convicted.
So this is why people, like me, are saying to take Biden off of the ballot. There is no standard to do so. You don't have to convict someone, you just have to say they did bad things and then remove him. That is the standard people like you and those 4 justices want which is a dangerous standard to set.
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@ImpeccableLiving The inflation reduction act: Did not reduce inflation. So far every month this year inflation went up. The economy is still terrible because instead of favoring a free market it favors union contractors thus limiting negotiation. And with "clean energy", look up Proterra. Or look up the fact that Biden had to go to producing more oil in the US because Saudia Arabia and OPEC laughed at Biden when he asked them to produce. Verdict: FAILURE
The Pact Act: Passed and supported by both parties. Nothing to do with Biden Verdict: Biden has nothing to do with this due to the bipartisan support in Congress
The Infrastructure Bill: Similar to the Inflation Reduction Act. Put more restrictions in industry leading to high inflation and lower productivity. What has it led to? Plane doors blowing off, bridges falling down, trains derailing, EV charging stations not work, etc. Also, most infrastructure is local.
Verdict: FAILURE
Lowering cost of insulin: This was actually because of Trump. Trump lowered it, Biden canceled it and then restarted it to take credit. Verdict: Biden taking credit for Trump's ideas
Canceling student debt: Verdict: Giving money to those who are well off, FAILURE. Side note, I have over $100,000 in student debt. I obtained a PhD and an MBA. Should I get loan forgiveness? According to Biden I should. This is literally a tax cut for the rich.
When did he expand healthcare to people?
Prescription drug cost: Look at the insulin issue, same thing
So again, where are Biden's "success"? And why isn't he talking about it? Maybe because when he started talking about Bidenomics his poll numbers tanked.
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@tkdfreeassistivetechnology2458 I have yet to see any source saying Trump called Harris a DEI hire. So with that, in order for Trump to give a yes or no, he needs a definition. The journalist refused to give one because it would expose what DEI really is. How about you define what is DEI.
" Just once, I would like to hear Trump give a speech where all he did was praise America and the people "
This is the number one thing I like about Trump. He praises the American people. I ask this all the time and never get an answer and I know why. When has Trump ever ridiculed Biden and Clinton voters as a whole? Never. Clinton called Trump voters deplorables, Biden called them a threat to democracy. We can go back farther. Romney said 47% of people do not pay federal taxes and it is not his job to worry about them. Obama said rural people cling to guns and god and he also said business owners did not build their businesses.
The best part about Trump is that he attacks the elites, not the people. The elites attack the people as I shown you above. Biden enter office claiming he wants unity and then proceeds in his presidency to call Trump voters a threat to democracy. How is that unity? Biden calls someone like me a threat to democracy and I have no way to respond back. Trump does. People are sick of these elites attacking the people. To add, these same elites do nothing. Clinton said Trump paid not taxes. Trump responded saying Clinton has been in congress for years, why didn't she push to change the tax laws so the rich could? Biden in the debate was saying we need to raise taxes on the rich. What has he been doing his first term? Or on Roe, Obama said in a town hall in 2008 he will sign the Freedom of Choice Act early on as president. Why didn't he? Congress was majority democrats. The liberal elites ridicule certain American people (those that don't vote for them) but get nothing done for the people that do vote for them.
" America is the greatest country in the world because of its people! "
Yeah, sure, unless you vote for Trump then you are a deplorable according to Clinton, or a threat to democracy according to Biden.
So I will ask again, when has Trump ever ridicule Biden and Clinton voters as a whole?
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@beapower7045 yeah, now the full quote
"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
Now point to me where Trump said he would terminate the Constitution? Nowhere. What he is saying is that if we allow election fraud to happen that will lead to termination of rule including terminating the Constitution. And he clearly stated the founders would not want that and he does not want that.
So as usual you guys just pull out one part of a much longer statement and create what you want out of it. No different than the "fine people" situation. You guys pulled out one part of a longer statement claiming he called nazis fine people when in that same statement he condemned them.
So based on your point you are correct. If we allow fraudulent election it will lead to termination of the Constitution which we must avoid. And I agree, we deserve a president that will protect and defend the Constitution. Harris said she would do nothing different did what Biden did. Biden tried to override the Constitution with the vaccine mandate and with student loan forgiveness, remember? I do.
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@jefferyG499 a couple things. One, these were 3 random people, they do not represent the norm. Next, people were so quick to consider almost everything a covid death, but now are quick to dismiss any negative side effects of the vaccine. Not saying this is a consequence of the vaccine, but to completely dismiss any potential negative side effect is not wise.
As for what isn't discussed enough? Well, as I just mentioned, any potential negative side effects of the vaccine. With covid, the damage caused by the restrictions and why they occurred to way too long. In fact, during covid many things were not discussed like natural immunity, if shutting down schools was really the answer, who was really at risk, etc.
"Uhh, who? Also, who presented counter-arguments to shutting down schools? Red states? Where the Covid infections and deaths were the highest?"
Dr. Sean O’Leary for one. Read the NY Times article titled "What the Data Says About Pandemic School Closures, Four Years Later"
Many presented counter arguments in shutting down schools. In short, it is well known that least resistant environment is the best educational setting for a kid. As for your "red state" snide remark, there is no evidence they had the highest death rates.
"Where did you pull that nonsense from?"
From the very beginning. Read the NEJM paper titled
"Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted"
It was shown that the death rate was low. And looking at the cruise ship data all who died were over 70 which is more common than you think as stated in the paper titled
"Passenger mortalities aboard cruise ships"
"Meaningless statement is meaningless."
How is it meaningless? If that is not true why not stick to remote learning? Save tax dollars on schools and staff.
"Again, what is there to discuss. You just stated that the best environment for learning is the best environment for learning."
Sigh......read the Vanderbilt article on Least Restrictive Environment. They break it down.
Notice how I am citing experts here and all you are saying "nope, nothing to see here" or "red states" or "no dismissing that argument with no reasoning"
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@thesilverblack708 sigh....to start measles were never eradicated. They have been in developing nations for decades. Us having open border policies allowing unvaccinated people in from those nations with little control will cause these problems. Next, the largest hub in the US for anti-vaxxers is in Oregon, a state that has had a democrat governor since 1987. So blame RFK Jr all you want, your argument has no merit. RFK Jr has strongly supported vaccines and has said so many times. But keep lying.
As for covid, Trump did all he could do. The reality is this, no matter what he would have done you guys were going to criticize him. He introduced us to Fauci where Fauci decided to become a celebrity as opposed to doing actual science. He gave Cuomo a navy ship to use as a temporary hospital only for Cuomo to order infected patients back into nursing homes. He created a travel ban from China only to be called a racist and have Pelosi giving hugs in China Town. Fact is if Trump did a federal lockdown and a federal mask mandate you guys would have thrown down your masks, called him a fascist and gathered in large crowds in the streets.
As for climate change, if you guys were right the world will be on fire, iced over and under water by now. There is a reason why zero scientists speak on the behalf of alarmists. Myles Allen of the IPCC was asked to speak at a climate change rally but refused because he disagreed with the messaging of the alarmists basically saying it does more harm than good. We needed to pull out of the Paris accords as it was a waste of money and did nothing. Heck, we were with the Paris accords under Biden but yet you guys still blame climate change on the LA fires. Wasn't that problem supposed to be solved? On climate change I listen to actual scientists where you listen to a teenage girl from Sweden and an ex-bartender. Think about that. Again, why can't you get scientists to speak on your behalf?
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@Joey-JoJo-Jr.64 I live in TX, from the AG office
"To fulfill these responsibilities, the Office of the Attorney General serves as legal counsel to all boards and agencies of state government, issues legal opinions when requested by the Governor, heads of state agencies and other officials and agencies as provided by Texas statutes, sits as an ex-officio member of state committees and commissions, and defends challenges to state laws and suits against both state agencies and individual employees of the State.
The Office of the Attorney General has taken on numerous other roles through the years. Texas statutes contain nearly 2000 references to the Attorney General. In addition to its constitutionally prescribed duties, the Office of the Attorney General files civil suits upon referral by other state agencies. In some circumstances, the Attorney General has original jurisdiction to prosecute violations of the law, but in most cases, criminal prosecutions by the Attorney General are initiated only upon the request of a local prosecutor.
Although the Attorney General is prohibited from offering legal advice or representing private individuals, he serves and protects the rights of all citizens of Texas through the activities of the various divisions of the agencies. Actions that benefit all citizens of this state include enforcement of health, safety and consumer regulations; educational outreach programs and protection of the rights of the elderly and disabled. The Attorney General is also charged with the collection of court-ordered child support and the administration of the Crime Victims' Compensation Fund."
Not really seeing "chief law enforcement officer". So again, not seeing someone on the streets enforcing laws. The reality there is a lot to it. I recommend you do more research bud. If you did you would not be a Harris supporter.
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@SkyQuest2K8 I live in TX, from the AG office
"To fulfill these responsibilities, the Office of the Attorney General serves as legal counsel to all boards and agencies of state government, issues legal opinions when requested by the Governor, heads of state agencies and other officials and agencies as provided by Texas statutes, sits as an ex-officio member of state committees and commissions, and defends challenges to state laws and suits against both state agencies and individual employees of the State.
The Office of the Attorney General has taken on numerous other roles through the years. Texas statutes contain nearly 2000 references to the Attorney General. In addition to its constitutionally prescribed duties, the Office of the Attorney General files civil suits upon referral by other state agencies. In some circumstances, the Attorney General has original jurisdiction to prosecute violations of the law, but in most cases, criminal prosecutions by the Attorney General are initiated only upon the request of a local prosecutor.
Although the Attorney General is prohibited from offering legal advice or representing private individuals, he serves and protects the rights of all citizens of Texas through the activities of the various divisions of the agencies. Actions that benefit all citizens of this state include enforcement of health, safety and consumer regulations; educational outreach programs and protection of the rights of the elderly and disabled. The Attorney General is also charged with the collection of court-ordered child support and the administration of the Crime Victims' Compensation Fund."
Not really seeing "chief law enforcement officer". So again, not seeing someone on the streets enforcing laws. The reality there is a lot to it. I recommend you do more research bud. If you did you would not be a Harris supporter
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@Aadrian7 yes, Colbert is a far leftist. There was a time where people like him criticized and made fun of both sides. Now you see him dancing with Chuck Schumer and doing the "Vax-Scene" bit. You also had his audience cheering loudly when Harris said she is not Trump. That is not a winning campaign and Colbert did not push back on her non answers. He is far left.
Second, why do it? He has done 1000s of interviews, press conferences and town halls for years. He did the 60 minute one in 2016 and 2020. What is the point? He is going on more independent news sources to reach out to more undecided voters. He no longer needs to go on the major ones as people who watch that most likely made their decisions. Trump did not chicken out. There is no point to it. You may say no candidate has ever refused. Well, why doesn't Harris do a debate on Fox News? Why did it take Harris weeks before doing any interview? That has never happened. We never had a candidate like Harris who hid for weeks and dodged questions.
I want tough interviews. Sorry, having a beer with Colbert and doing an interview with The View who openly hates Trump are not interviews. Why not have one with Hannity? Trump did a town hall on CNN. Trump did one with the black journalists where one immediately called him a racist. It isn't so much of doing "my interviews". This is a smoke screen of her campaign team and you saying "see, she is doing interviews, she is not hiding". You are not fooling intelligent people. In fact, intelligent people see these and find her more pathetic. She is not Trump? How is that a winning message. She will do nothing different than what Biden did? Great, more wars more illegals and a bad economy. Why not go on Outkick and do an interview? Or the Daily Wire? More right leaning independent news sources.
You say I am in a cult of personality when from the very beginning you supported Harris who received no votes and was put in place after they forced Biden out. You are support Harris because people like Colbert and The View tell you to with the main reason being "Trump bad". These "interviews", as I said, is the same thing what Clinton did in 2016. While Trump was campaigning hard in swing states taking time to speak in front of the people, Clinton was hanging out with her rich friends in NY. Harris is doing it again. Trump is working to help hurricane victims and Harris is having a beer with a man who danced with Schumer and ridiculed people who dare questioned the "vaccine" that democrats mandated.
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@matthewg6562 Obama did say that. He said
"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House."
He also said that one of the first things he will do is sign The Freedom of Choice Act related to abortion. Did neither. Obama had a super majority in the Senate and he had the House. What was his excuse?
As for what you listed about Trump, fun fact, Trump is not president yet.
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@jeanninewaken7147 your corporate greed talking point is flawed. So you are saying that now, under Biden and not under Trump all the corporations colluded together to conspire and all agreed to raise prices? And not one corporation decided to break out and offer lower prices so they can get more customers? That is a stupid argument. That is not how things work. And looking at the board of directors and how much they paid is pointless. They are paid completely different compared to workers. The CEO of my company is paid completely different compared to me. Same with the CFOs. How they manage their expense reports, travel, etc. is completely different. Just because they are rich does not mean you are poor. They go through different levels of scrutiny. Yes, the CEO of my company makes a lot of money, but he is a company of 160,000 employees. He makes around $1,600,000. If you spread his salary across the entire company we will all make $10. Wow, don't spend it all in one place.
Compare it to this, Michael Phelps and I are the same age. He can destroy me in swimming. But just because he can does not make me an unhealthy person.
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@coopzilla1 sigh....not true. Prior to Trump homeownership rate was dropping, wage growth was low, labor participation rate was low, gas prices were high. Under Trump gas prices were low, homeownership rate grew 5%. Wage growth was higher, especially for the lower 1/4 of wage earners. The numbers don't lie. I can break them down for you citing FRED and the Atlanta Federal Reserve. People voted for Trump because they remember that under him they could afford to buy things. They could live the American dream of owning a home.
As for covid response, what did you want him to do? Every nation faced high unemployment and businesses being shut down. Here is the reality of covid. No matter what Trump did you guys would have criticized him for it. He created a travel ban from China and was called a racist. He introduced us to Fauci only for Fauci to stab Trump in the back. Trump could have done a federal mask mandate and a federal lockdown and you guys would have thrown down your masks gathering in large crowds calling him a fascist.
I did not deviate from the topic. I explained to you how oil production is high. Biden had no choice. From day one he shut down the Keystone pipeline and made drilling on federal land more expensive. But when other nations refuse to give oil to Biden he had no choice. And the price of gas matter as that is what consumers, voters directly see. It was lower under Trump, period.
Biden's economy is terrible. That is why the democrats lost. You can look at every metric and it is not good. People can't afford bills, groceries, homes, etc.
"How many undocumented workers did Trump have working at Mar-a-Lago again?"
Now you are deflecting. The answer is zero. Just like people say those MAGA hats are made in China when really they are made in the USA.
"Then, you decide to just straight-up lie about Trump's tax cuts. The cuts overwhelmingly benefit high-income individuals and corporations, with the top 748 wealthiest Americans increasing their wealth by almost 80%."
Not true. According to IRS data, those earning $15,000 to $50,000 saw a tax cut of 16 to 26 percent. Those earning $100,000 to $500,000 saw a tax cut of around 13%. His tax cut benefited the middle and lower class the most.
I am sorry bud but you are factually incorrect here.
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@jondayoung6883 I rely on science and objectivity as well as I am a scientist myself. I have a PhD in physical chemistry. I read the data and the studies and felt by May of 2020 it was time to go back to normal.
I listen to both sides and Trump did well during the "pandemic". The liberal elites and bureaucrats failed us. What they did during covid was 100% anti-science. They completely ignored other factors involved such as natural immunity, the damage caused by the lockdowns, the increase in depression, the increase in substance and alcohol abuse, the increase in suicide rate, the damage to the economy, the shutting down of gyms and parks to where people could not exercise to remain healthy. To them it was only the virus even though the numbers were clear in May of 2020 it was not that dangerous.
So many years later have admitted that shutting down schools was the wrong route, but their excuse was that "they did not know". Well, they did not know at the time because the refused to have a discussion. They shut down the opposition.
And you bring up covid related deaths, fact is almost all who died with covid would have died in the same timeframe to begin with based on numerous stats. Someone in their 90s with many health issues is not a covid death. That is a death via old age, period.
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@timbo3286 "Calling his political opponents "vermin", Hitler reffered to his political opponents as "Ungeziefer", which translates to either "Pests", "insects" or, you guessed it, "Vermin"."
Sigh........so you are going to ignore all the name calling from the left? Also, I ask this all the time and this is when people on the left run away. Point to me a time where Trump ridiculed Biden and Clinton supporters as a whole? Never. Meanwhile, Biden said Trump supporters are a threat to democracy. Clinton called them deplorables.
You are getting all butthurt in Trump calling members of the elites who do nothing for your nation vermins when those same elites ridicule people who don't vote for them. This is one of the reasons why I support Trump. Trump ridicules and goes after the elites. Biden, Clinton, Romney, Obama, etc. goes after the people.
So answer the question, when has Trump ever ridiculed Biden and Clinton supporters as a whole?
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@shinyagami8843 "Things were not great when people were dying by the thousands every day because of his incompetence"
Please explain.
"And no, if you had actually read the plan that is laid out in project 2025 you wouldn’t be talking about his previous term. "
What is in the plan? Was it written by Trump himself?
"You absolute joke, HE IS AN ELITE! "
As I said, Trump has been around the elites. Also, the fact is whoever is going to be president is going to be someone rich, that is just how it goes. Who do you want as president? The homeless guy down the street? Trump has been around these elite, career politicians for years and knows how to take them on. As with the debate against Clinton, when challenged on why Trump did not pay any taxes Trump said that career politicians like Clinton had every opportunity to raise taxes on the rich, why didn't she? Why didn't Obama do it when he had the supermajority in the Senate? Why didn't Biden do it when he had Congress?
This is what is insane on your part, you hate Trump but then support the same corrupt, career politicians like Biden that have done nothing to improve the nation. Biden during this campaign season is going around talking about gun control and raising taxes on the rich as if he wasn't president the past 4 years. Again, he had Congress, he could have pushed for both. Instead he pushed for his infrastructure deal that led to giving money to Proterra, an electric bus company that went bankrupt along with doing a vaccine mandate that led to people leaving their jobs early.
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@thetabest "you are very likely white and male, so obviously you dont have much worry"
Which means nothing. I live in one of the most diverse cities in the US and I know people here will be fine because they were under Trump when he was president in the past.
"In addition since you want to engage more, Trump is a rapist, a fraud, terrible businessman who managed to bankrupt a wide variety of businesses which shouldn't ever go bankrupt, like a casino"
Sigh......Trump was never found guilty in being a rapist, and casinos go bankrupt many times. All business owner in his position see companies go bankrupt. Warren Buffet has. With success comes failure. Trump is will to take on failure because he is willing to take on risk, and as a result he has had a lot of success. Compare that to corrupt, career politicians who take on know risk.
" Accept my challenge, google logical fallacies and show me Trump doesnt use them."
Oh my gosh, a politician uses logical fallacies? I am shocked, shocked
"We will be able to reach even more viewers like you"
And we will see how foolish you guys are. Noticed how Pakman is not calling Trump "failed former president" today? I think he is scared of his rhetoric going too far. Or how Morning Joe was not playing this morning? People are scared of his rhetoric.
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@johndigiacomo1674 "Trump was considered a buffoon by most "serious" Republican politicians."
That is not true at all.
" Trump told 35,000 lies,"
That has been debunked many times. For example, read the Market Watch article titled
"Washington Post’s 10,000 Trump untruths is about 25% fake news"
That is just scratching the surface. When you label everything as a lie you inflate the numbers.
"Trump had detention centers for Hispanic immigrants and a Muslim ban"
There was no Muslim ban. He communicated with Obama on nations that were unstable and we needed to limit immigration from until we learn more about that. Even at that we had exceptions such as those with a college education. Overtime the travel restrictions were removed. And there were no retention centers. And you can't compare them to concentration camps where people literally died.
"Trump had Charlottesville and January 6,."
Trump condemned the nazis and white supremacists at Charlottesville which was created because local officials, not Trump, wanted to take down historical statues. Even at that Trump was pushing for unity by saying, correctly, that there were fine people on both sides. People on the left took that has he said Nazis were fine people even though, in the same speech, he condemned them.
Jan 6th was nothing. Trump told them to do peacefully and told them to leave. This was after months of riots in 2020 the left endorsed and called the summer of love.
" Trump has book banning and LGBTQ discrimination."
Zero books have been banned under Trump. Trump is the first president to enter the white house supporting gay marriage.
"Appeals to racism and bigotry were the main reasons for their rise to power and Hitler had the brown shirts, Trump had the "proud boys"."
Oh please, you want to talk racism look at Biden. The "you ain't black" comment, or picking Harris strictly because she was a black woman.
"These are just some of the highlights"
Easily debunked. Try again bud. You are literally comparing a travel ban to concentration camps. Thing about that.
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@johndigiacomo1674 "John Kelly Trump's former Chief of Staff was the one cited about Trump saying Hitler did good things. "
Does he have a recording of that? No? Ok, moving on.
"Second, Trump didn't "reduce the size of government" he put lobbyists and former corporate executives in charge of the industries they worked in, cutting regulations and protection for the rest of Americans"
Uh, cutting regulations. Thus, reducing the size of the federal government.
"His staff consisted of unqualified family members who couldn't pass security clearances, and his cabinet became a revolving door of criminals and incompetents,"
Can you back up those claims? Also, I have no problem with rotating cabinet members as many of them should not exist.
"Regarding Trump's "detention centers" they are virtually the same as the early concentration camps"'
Sigh.....do you know what actually occurred in concentration camps? Again, these people hiked through tough conditions to get to the US. You are comparing these detention centers to camps where human experiments were being performed. I beg you, stop downplaying what happened under Hitler's regime. People suffered a lot, in horrible ways. You are comparing that to people, on their own free will, hiking in tough terrain in 100 degree heat. Not a valid comparison.
" The four years of Trump were four years of bigotry and racism, highest unemployment numbers in history, fastest drop in GDP on record, worst response to Covid in the world,"
Sigh.....if you want to bring up covid as I said many times, Trump could have used that as a way to grow in power, but he didn't. He did all he could do, leave it to the states. It was not Trump's fault that many democrats kept the lockdowns going. As I said, if Trump did a federal mask mandate and federal lockdowns you guys would have thrown down your masks and rallied in the streets in large crowds.
" Biden , lowest unemployment rate in history, fastest economic recovery for any country, wage increases outstripping inflation, created 15 million new jobs, including 1.2 million in manufacturing, passed the infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, and cut drug prices for seniors"
All which is not true. Biden, high inflation, terrible infrastructure. Low wage growth. No jobs created (jobs recovered are not jobs created). Fact is the economy is terrible under Biden. What I used to by for $150 at the grocery store now cost me nearly $300. People see that.
Under Trump we saw wage growth, low inflation, union membership growing, homeownership rate growing. The economy was great under Trump.
"Biden stood on a picket line, Trump spoke at a non union factory, "
Fun fact, since 2000, according to the BLS, there were only two times union membership grew, in 2007 under Bush and in 2019 under Trump. Facts.
I am sorry you deny reality, but the economy is not good under Biden. It was great under Trump. You point to covid where it were the democrats that mismanaged it. As I said, if Trump demanded federal mask mandates and federal lockdowns you guys would have thrown down your masks and gathered in large crowds calling him a fascist. Be honest.
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@ericdunayer6687 "Decisions were made based on the best available evidence at the time. In hindsight, they may now be viewed as wrong but, at the time, it seemed prudent. "
The point is that there were no discussions being made. Sure, the initial lockdowns had valid reasons, but come May of 2020 it was clear that this virus was not that deadly to justify keeping them. We had the petri dish in the cruise ship. We had the numbers. We also know in education LRE is the best route where remote learning is not. Non of this was being discussed. It was just "follow the science" and people were censored.
" Trying to halt the spread of the disease, especially to those who were most vulnerable, seemed especially prudent."
And that is something we should have been doing to begin with. Protect the vulnerable that want to be protected. That is why we have assisted living facilities. However, there was also the argument that many in nursing homes rather die with covid as opposed to being alone. That situation has also been studied a lot in healthcare. Read the book "Being Mortal" on that topic. We can shield the vulnerable from disease, but at what cost?
"It should also be noted that death is an easy statistic to use -- it is binary, i.e. you are dead or alive."
It is more complicated than that. Someone in their 90s with many health issues dying with covid is not necessarily a covid death. Really, the covid deaths should be weighted. There is a table called the Actuarial Life Table where it gives the chances of dying in a year. If you are 90 years old that chance is 18%. We can start as something simple by taking someone who is 90 dying with covid in 2020 and weighing their death from 1 covid death to a 0.82 covid death, as there was an 18% chance of them dying in that time to begin with.
We can expand as I pointed out with 65% of new nursing home patients dying in a year. What other health issues did they have and so on. So it isn't as simple as you are dead or alive.
"But what about all those who have long Covid -- not dead but suffering."
What was their health like to begin with? Were they healthy before and now suffering? Or were they obese? Again, you need other factors. That was the problem in all of this, there was no discussion.
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@Sheebalba to start, hard to define what is a blue state and a red state. It can change over the years. Next, you say CA, NY and MA are economic powerhouses. CA, when you include cost of living, is number 1 in poverty. It recently saw a reduction in population. Not really an economic powerhouse. Newsome a couple of years ago told people to buy electric cars but then later said not to charge them.
As for education, how do you rank it? Do you rank it based on test scores? Do you rank it based on productivity? Do you rank it based on critical thinking? Hard to do. I currently work a job as a scientist and a part of my job with my company is to go to customers and train them on our instruments. My experience here down south is that people request less training as opposed to the west coast and the northeast coast. Now some of it may be due to cost. And you can argue in those areas they want to understand the instrument and software better. But I can also argue that down here down south they can figure it out themselves. Many times when a customer asks for help I point to them documentations and they figure it out themselves here down south.
As for expanded Medicaid and the ACA, that cost those states more. Also, healthcare outcomes is mainly related to personal life choices with studies pointing to that (I can cite a couple if you want). The same is with life expectancy. That is more of an issue of culture, not policies. I currently live in TX. The policies here in TX do not hinder me from having a PhD and an MBA. It does not hinder me from living a healthier lifestyle. It does not hinder me from having the hobby of being a sports official which requires intelligence and being healthy. The fact is that you and Pakman are trying to relate policy to personal choices on healthcare and education. As for the economy, I pointed out to you that CA has the highest poverty rate in the US. CA and NY also have the lowest homeownership rate in the US as well. I will be fair, there are other factors involved in that as well, but that is the reality.
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@greenjackle wow, seemed to have struck a nerve there. Shows your lack of intelligence.
But to address your comment in full
"But standards need to be the same in all states. You can't have a high school diploma in one state that has calculus and bio chem and AP everything, be a standard for a high school diploma as it is way too much for most kids. But on the flip side you can't have addition and subtraction along with Bible studies and very basic read and writing, be the standards in another state. Then both kids say I have an American high school diploma. Well. Okay. What does that mean to colleges and the world? When you apply for a job do you have to put what state you got your diploma from?"
Well, colleges have different standards to begin with. Some require a foreign language, some don't. It has been awhile since I applied for college, but when I applied for grad school some required the subject GRE, some didn't. So even at that colleges require different standards. Standards to get into college differ. As for Bible studies, due to the 1st amendment public schools cannot mandate the teaching of religion. Now can they teach religion? Yes, but they cannot make it a requirement. Also, as a whole standards will basically be very similar due to competition. One state does not want to be known as the state that cannot teach reading and writing. As for a job, employers care more about work experience.
"But public schools need more funding and teachers need the power to teach the kids. Teachers need to be well educated as well and paid more. Children need to be held to a higher standard. Kids in the USA need to be better educated. We are something like the bottom 50 in math and science and whatnot. The USA is not in the top 20 for any subject. Around the world. Korea,. Japan, China, Germany, France, Sweden, New Zealand, Australia, the list goes on and on. We need to do better for our future generations."
If you want to pay teachers more then raise property taxes as that is mainly where funding for education comes from. Also, you are trying to compare to other nations, the issue is that those other nations have a culture of doing more work. I worked with a colleague from Korea, he told it to me like this. Our education system is not bad, it is just that in Korea after schools the kids do more studying in after school programs where our kids do sports. Kids in other nations spend 3 to 4 hours after school studying where kids in the US do not. That is an issue of culture, not the system. Also, what do you want more? A society that is highly educated or productive? According to Trading Economics the US is near the top in productivity.
"My mom taught in California for 35 years. I have seen first hand how the education system works. My mom used to give homework and she could hold the kids back if they truly needed it. But then she stopped giving homework because no child left behind made homework worth nothing. She was forced to teach to a test the entire year. She actually retired early because she was just so tired of not being able to actually teach anymore."
I agree teaching to the test is terrible. But blame the state of CA for setting the standards. States set the standards. When Common Core came around 8 states refused to adapt them.
" Adults should be smarter than they are. It is why we have shows like are you smarter than a 5th grader. Because it is funny how stupid people are as adults. But it is also extremely sad."
You can't use "smarter than a 5th grader" as a standard. To start, those kids are in the top 1%. Next, there is a lot they don't know. Do they know how to drive a manual transmission and heal-toe when down shifting? Do they know how to handle an angry coach as an official in an intense playoff game? Do they know how to deal with insurance companies after a hail storm? The list goes one. I think adults are very smart.
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@thespecialist3608 "A good medical scientist has empathy where it counts, as well as being able to actualize the data as verifiable fact and reject influence of bias when reviewing studies. I wonder why the most prestigious medical journals have referenced time and time again why Covid was and still is a deadly virus."
To start, they say every virus is deadly which is true, but to what degree? As I said, that NEJM article from February of 2020 has the death rate of around 1% compared to SARS that was around 9%. In that cruise ship around 8 people died, all over the age of 70. Is the virus deadly? Yes. Every virus is to some degree, what we do is break down the numbers and the situation which we never did. We kept schools locked down along with businesses, we forced people to wear masks with zero evidence they actually worked. We completely ignored the destruction of the covid restrictions, and when I say we I mean the media, our leaders, and the "scientists" they chose to put on air.
You talk about empathy, Fauci was the completely opposite of that. Nowhere did he ever express concerns about the negative fallbacks from the covid restrictions. You talk about your asthma, I have the disease of alcoholism and depression. I am able to fight it because I am highly active in life and my community. That was all stripped from me and live in Nevada, a 24/7 state where you can buy booze at 3 AM Sunday morning at a gas station did not help. I had to go to detox twice, second time to the ER. The EMTs told me covid was a non-issue in the local hospitals, people like me abusing alcohol and substances were. Now tell me, do you feel any empathy for my situation? I sure did not see it hearing Fauci talk or those pushing to keep gym close, or shut down schools.
I looked at the numbers. As a grad student at the time I had access to peer reviewed journals (and still do with my current job). I took the time to read the numbers and felt I rather enjoy life as the covid restrictions were causing more damage. To you there were ways of working at home if you were scared. But instead you demanded everyone else to act and live like you without even consulting them. My life was stripped from me and when i tried to speak up with concerns I was told to be quit.
How do you think that makes me feel? I doubt you care because to you your only concern was covid and nothing else.
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@thespecialist3608 "It’s truly a shame you think subjecting me to your scenarios is the way to justify any absence of empathy or compassion"
Sigh......you are proving my point. My suffrage from covid was not from covid itself but from the restrictions. You, like others seem to have zero care for any of the suffering I, and others faced from the covid restrictions because it was all about you.
I have said that we should have protected the vulnerable that wanted to be protected and let others live. If you have asthma that includes you. I had a student with a immune problem that was documented and she told me that even with that should wanted to live life and risk taking on covid and not being forced to live in fear.
"Now see, if you had empathy and compassion, you would put your students before yourself."
I did. There were options for them to completely take the course online that some opted to do and I helped them out. When covid first hit and the university was shut down after spring break I volunteered my time to tutor them in both the lab and lecture remotely. For those students that showed up I boosted their grades as a reward as they put forth effort and also were dealing with difficult times. One of my students had poor internet at her home to in order to take online tests she had to sit outside of the public library and use their internet. Can't go inside, no as it was shut down.
You see, that is my point. I supported giving people options. I wanted to leave my apartment and interact with people. You, on the other hand, did not. I wanted to give people like you the option to stay home. That is empathy. You can stay home, you get that option, I get the option to go out and enjoy life. Deal? Nope, not according to you. You force you will on me and when I end up suffering from it you just tell me to be quit.
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@thespecialist3608 "Now who said I was enforcing my will or beliefs on others or telling them to be quiet as they suffered? Didn’t we all? Or, according to you, only you and others like did- because “we” were the ones that were so adamant on ensuring people follow guidelines for themselves as well. Which somehow equates to suffering by yelling at people to be quiet over the internet."
Follow guidelines for myself? So you feel you know my life better than me? Why? I read the numbers. In my condition I essentially had a 0% chance of dying from covid. And even if I did I rather enjoy life as opposed to living in constant fear. Why stop at mask? Why didn't you wear a hazmat suit and demand others do it? Answer that. It is because you only listened to what some 'expert" told you, or you yourself had a limit. That a mask was the limit, but not a hazmat suit. I had my limits. Or again, shy didn't you stay home? You had that option.
"I didn’t advise anyone, I didn’t badger or nag or pester anyone. I just followed what I had to do, and did it to the best of my abilities"
So you just blindly do what some authority figure tells you without question I see. Again, why not a hazmat suit? Where was the evidence masks even worked? You are now admitting you just do what authority figures tell you without question. That you never did your own research and come up with your own conclusion. You never listened to consenting opinions on this topic.
"Can we say the same for people who came in to places coughing incessantly without a mask, or being belligerent and physically aggressive for wearing one, telling us to take it off or even threatening to shoot us? "
No one was threatening to shoot you. If you want to wear a mask be my guest. I had friends who did it before covid. I was OK with it. Not my thing. I always recommended that people stay home if sick, even before covid. Not everyone had that option though, but as in protecting the vulnerable that want to be protected, we should allow sick people to stay home. But again, not always an option. Some people need to go to work sick to get things done. But if you are not sick, what good is a mask? I don't wear one because I am not sick. If I am I stay home. Simple. We had a problem when you were demanding us to wear a mask, even after vaccination. So does the vaccine work or not?
"At the end of the day, we all suffered. However, it is those that chose to be violent against the system; to develop conspiracy out of scientific studies; to cause genuine physical harm and emotional and mental suffering to the people trying to protect themselves that cannot earn my sympathies"
The people pushing the covid restrictions were being violent, using tyrannical government to impose their will on others. You bring up mental sufferings, the covid restrictions caused that.
As I said, if you wanted to stay home you stay home. If you wanted to wear a mask, you wear a mask. Others will live their life. The moment you leave your home you are taking a risk in life.
"Some gas station employee tells a customer to mask up. Argument ensues. Guy leaves, comes back roughly 20 minutes later with a gun and shoots the employee seven times. All he did was ask the man to mask up because that was the established guidelines. You think that’s a rational and normal response? "
Have to look that story up, but ever thought that man was pushed to a breaking point? That even after vaccination masks were still being mandated? You push people enough they will break. You may seem it is as simple as wear a mask, well, when will it stop? From the very beginning it was 15 days to stop the spread and get back to normal. It led to months of lockdowns, schools being shut down, and then the vaccine came out even with vaccination masks were still mandatory along with schools being shut down and then the vaccine became mandatory that showed this had nothing to do with public health but about control.
I was going to get vaccinated early on until Jen Psaki said that even after vaccination masks and social distancing will still be promoted. So I said no. During my physical in the summer of 2021 a nurse asked me why I am not vaccinated. I looked at her and said directly that we are still wearing masks and schools were still being shut down. We were told we were supposed to get back to normal even before a vaccine comes out. At this point what will get us back to normal would be to thrown down our masks and say a collective no, because apparently the vaccine did not do that.
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@thespecialist3608 "If you explained yourself more clearly beforehand instead of insisting that the virus wasn’t all that deadly "
Because it wasn't that deadly. The death total is way overexaggerated. Someone in their 90s with many health issues dying with covid is not a covid death.
This would have been the more scientific approach, weigh the covid related deaths. For example, if you look at the actuarial life table, which is the percentage of someone dying in a year based on age, someone who is 90 has a 17% chance of dying in a year. So someone who is 90 dying with covid should be counted as a 0.83 covid death, not a 1 covid death. We can factor in other issues such is say they had cancer that had a survival rate of a few months, or some sort of blood condition, etc.
Doing that would give you a more accurate death total. But that did not happen. When you have someone dying in a motorcycle accident being listed as a covid death that says something. I remember when news came out that Dawn Wells died and it was considered a covid death. I responded that she was 82 years old, that is why she died. Just like when my grandpa recently died, he was 93. Gee, we get old and wear down like a car does, or a computer, or any other animal in nature.
As I said, from the beginning we had the petri dish of the cruise ship. Less than 10 people died, all over the age of 70. Tragic as it may be that is actually common. In a 2001 study entitled
"Passenger mortalities aboard cruise ships"
There was an average of 1 death in every six months on cruise ships. That is because cruise ships are breeding grounds for diseases and there is limited medical staff. And those dying with covid were all over the age of 70.
The data was there early on. It was clear as day. This virus was not that dangerous to justify anything we did. And the death total is overexaggerated. Less than 1% of the total population live in assisted living facilities but they made up around 30% of covid related deaths. Why? Well the median life expectancy for those in nursing homes is 5 months, and the average life expectancy is 1.3 years.
Again, the data was there. I, and basically everyone in a similar situation as me, a young reasonably healthy person, had a 0% chance of dying.
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@thespecialist3608 the personal anecdote falls in line with authoritarian. Our rights and freedoms were taken away from us and it caused major harm.
"The restrictions (and even those gradually lifted as the CDC and NIH advised, which I and my state trusted) could be deemed totalitarian in your eyes, and necessary in mine- but does this equate me to be the bad guy? "
Yes, because you were given the option to stay home. You have no right to tell others to step aside and bow down to you. . If you are so scared of life you stay home. Instead, you supported locking people at home without considering there concerns. Great, you were happy staying home, I wasn't. I am actually active and involved in life and my community.
" The Trump administration did absolutely nothing in the way of a coordinated, swift and unified response. "
He did all he can do. You guys called him a fascist, and still do when he simply followed federal law. He can't force states and citizens to do anything just like he can't send in federal troops in a state to enforce laws without consent of the governor. Biden tried to use federal overreach on covid and the SC shot it down.
Funny fact is this, if Trump created a federal mask mandate and federal lockdowns all you guys would have thrown down your masks and gathered in large crowds in the streets.
"States took it upon themselves to either go against the restrictions (which unsurprisingly led to upticks in cases) "
But not deaths as the data shown proving my point on how not deadly the virus was.
"or enforce them (which served to stagnate cases, prevent hospitals from overflowing "
But same death rate along with a bad economy, kids losing out on their education, etc.
The numbers do not lie, covid was not that deadly. We knew early on, as early as March 2020.
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@thespecialist3608 "If Trump created a federal mask mandate, would I have thrown down my mask and danced in the streets? Nope."
Don't lie, yes you would because everything Trump did you would do the opposite. You will call Trump a fascist but in the moment of covid where he could have used it as an excuse to expand federal powers, where he had no legal authority to do so, he didn't. He did all he could do. He introduced us to Fauci, he created a travel ban from China and was called a racist. He offered a navy ship to NY to use as a temporary hospital, but even at that he could not tell NY to use it, Cuomo had to approve. You say Trump did not act quick enough when he did all he could do legally. And you the criticized him for not breaking the law, figures. That is why if he created a federal mask mandate you would have thrown down your mask and rallied in the streets.
Also, when Trump was criticized for not wearing a mask he brought up the point that he, and others in the room were tested daily. What is the point of wearing a mask when you are not even sick? Trump was showing logic. That is more logical than Biden pulling his mask down and coughing in his hand. Or Fauci, being one of three people in a baseball stadium that holds over 41,000 people sitting right next to two other people (no social distancing) with no mask on. Trump was showing logic here.
" I distinctly recall him saying, rather plainly, “It is what it is, and I don’t care.” When pressed about 10,000 dead nationwide. "
When did he say that?
"Tell me that’s a responsible leader of a nation responding to a novel disease pandemic. "
Not create a panic and not use it as an excuse for political gain or to gain power, which he did. Trump did all he could do legally. Democrat governors kept pushing lockdowns that appeared to have no end. It was a power grab to them. It had nothing to do with public health.
"Now here you go again, thinking me (ergo, “us=everyone else”) labels him a fascist. His actions did not constitute the formative use of fascism. However, he could have done more- but chose to wait before enacting his decisions. "
Legally, what could he have done? Seriously. You do know there are limits on what the federal government can do. That was shown when Biden tried to push federal covid restrictions like the vaccine mandate which was overturned. He did all he could do legally, period. The federal government is limited in what it can do in domestic situations, and for great reasons. He offered a navy ship to NY, but he could not force NY to use it. Cuomo had to agree to use it. Just like the president cannot send federal troops into a state to enforce domestic law without consent of the governor.
" He almost never followed the advice given to him by the task force members until it was clear that not doing anything would lead to greater ruin for his own standing. "
He did. He introduced us to Fauci for people to listen to. He created a travel ban from China and as a result Nancy Pelosi went to China town and was hugging people.
" Our rights and freedoms remained relatively untouched. According to you for some strange reason, they didn’t."
People could not operate their businesses, people could not go to parks. People were being fined trying to hold church services outdoor in their cars, people could not see loved ones. Our rights and freedoms were being taken away.
Your comparison to China is flawed as China has always been an authoritarian state. The US is a culture of freedom and rights and taking risk. Early one most people supported the covid restrictions. After a month people on the right did not and felt it was time to move on. What led to problems is that some people felt the need to be little dictators. We were at a point where if you were scared you can stay home. I remember in grad school my university emailed every grad student saying you can honor your graduate assistantship by doing activities at home. I had one colleague who wanted to work on campus and complained about some people not wearing masks. Well, she had the opportunity to work at home. She, instead wanted things her way. That is not how life works. I can't demand that everyone pulls over on the road so I can drive over 100 MPH so I can get to my destination faster.
"Also as a sidenote- I’d like to inquire your credentials. Your alumni, your department, your experiences and the like. You keep saying you’re a scientist, but if you don’t prove it,"
Because I am not going to reveal who I am here as people will target me. To be brief, I got my PhD in physical chemistry. I focused on ultra fast laser spectroscopy which studied molecular dynamics in the femtosecond time range. That involved multidimensional spectroscopy such as 2D IR, 2D EV, 2D VE and so on. I can point to you some sources on the subject matter in another topic as typically doing so the comment gets removed.
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@JohnJackson-si5bz he did not ignore the "dangers" of covid. He did all he could do. He did a travel ban from China and was called a racist, he introduced us to Fauci to only be stabbed in the back by him, he offered a navy ship to NY to be used as a temporary hospital as they were the only state facing problems. He did all he could do. Every nation faced supply chain issues. So did every leader of every nation fail?
Biden did not add 17 million jobs, those were jobs recovered because governors allowed businesses to operate. That is mainly due to republican governors. Look at total nonfarm employees by state. States that opened up early like FL, GA and TX reached their pre-covid numbers by early 2021, states like NY, MI and CA did not reach them until around a year after that. MN, BTW, with Walz, did not reach their pre-covid employment numbers until 2023. What a governor.
There were no new wars under Trump. You bring up Russia, Putin does not invade Ukraine under Trump, he does under Biden. You bring up the debt, the deficit has been higher under Biden in percent of GDP and the debt has been around the same. Most of the debt under Trump was during covid because state governors decided to shut down the economy. You can't blame Trump for that.
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To start, it did not have a high mortality rate. It was around 1%, at best. That was known as early as February 2020. Read the NEJM paper titled
"Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted"
Paragraph 3 mentions that. The initial lockdowns were necessary to get our bearings straight, but by May of 2020 it was clear that this virus was not that dangerous and we needed to get back to normal. Certain things like protecting the vulnerable that wanted to be protected, we should have done always done that before covid. But for everyone else, get back to normal.
You say science takes time, in many cases it does not take that long. Covid was not that novel. In fact, an article in Science back in May of 2020 suggested that many people had immunity because of SARS-COV-1. That is why so many were asymptomatic to begin with.
Even with all of that, during covid so much information and discussion was censored. Two doctors in Bakersfield gave their numbers and asked if what we were doing was worth it. They were censored. Not once did Fauci discuss about the negative outcomes of the lockdowns, school closure, etc. because there were. We, predictably, saw a spike in mental health issues, alcohol abuse, substance abuse. And, predictably, kids fell behind in education, especially at risk kid. But Fauci never mentioned that.
With the vaccine mandate, after people have been pushed and pulled around for months many, predictably, were very hesitant to take it. And then it was forced on them. Also, the irony here with you is that you say science takes time, but then a novel vaccine that was around for less than a year was pushed on us.
But that aside, there was no discussion being made. How do we learn more if we don't have a discussion? All Fauci did was fearmonger. Overtime people just threw in the towel and went back to life. To them covid was here to stay. To many like me it was as early as May 2020. As a scientist myself the month of April was plenty of time to know what was happening and get back to normal.
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@RacheWA1 it wasn't a dumb comment. Torture, in many ways, is subjective. The people in N Korea don't feel like they are oppressed because they were raised in the life they were. The people in China were OK with the massive lockdowns that lasted years until they started watching the Olympics. They saw people in large crowds and then rioted against the lockdowns.
As I told you, it went beyond masks and social distancing. The lockdowns were torture. Shutting down schools was torture for kids. But if you want to stick to just masks and social distancing, it was torture as well because our society was not used to it nor do we live like that. We live a life of watching sporting events in large crowds, or gathering in bars, or attending classes. Also, it is the most efficient way to approach an economy.
With masks, seeing facial expressions means a lot. Also, it was about symbolism. Seeing masks was a constant reminder that the government is in charge, not the people. And also that so many people were just slave, including you.
As for the franchise owner, it wasn't their opinion. It was an ordinance by the city/state. They had no choice. Also, you said
"something actually deemed respectful when sick in other countries"
You know what is better? Staying home. And if you are not sick, why wear a mask or socially distance? What is the point of a mask if you are not sick?
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@RacheWA1 I agree, no need to wear a mask when you are not sick.
"If that were the case, the medical community would not wear masks in the majority of situations they do. "
Sigh......this flawed argument. They wear masks in a very controlled setting. They wash their hands, the room is clean, they are typically wearing other PPE over their bodies. The put the mask on with clean hands and throw it away when they are done. That is completely different then someone grabbing an old T-shirt off of the kitchen counter on their way to work.
"If you are asymptomatic, you are still infected and can still spread the disease to others"
The chance of spread if very low to zero because, again, your have a low count overall and your body is fighting it off easily. Compare it to another virus, HIV. You can have it, but if the count is low the chance to spread it is low. This is common with all viruses. If you are asymptomatic you are not sick and your chances of spreading it to others is low to zero.
" Which is what we were trying to do with the masks to begin with—stop the spread of the virus."
Why stop at masks? Why not wear hazmat suits?
"It's selfish and reckless not to care about others' lives"
That is rich coming from you. How about you wear a hazmat suit if you are so scared.
"I do make good arguments, and I do know a good bit about the medical community."
Not really, you are saying healthy, non-sick people should wear masks. But I will ask again, why not hazmat suits?
"A person with real knowledge can get their points across without dragging everything else into the mix, like you did with North Korea and in other comments about World War II."
No, I am proving a point. I am proving another point on the hazmat suits. Why not hazmat suits? That is even more protection.
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@Rachel49555 "You need to start actually getting your information from real places, not some random website. High school was supposed to teach you how to discern good information from rambling, but obviously, that didn't stick for you."
Well, you people shut down schools, remember? Also, as someone with a PhD I know reliable sources. Fact is this, if you are asymptomatic you are not sick, period.
"I love how you bring up a hazmat suit. There are several reasons why the general public was not told to wear them, just like they were told not to wear gloves. A mask is the simplest PPE and the most effective when trying to stop the spread of a droplet RESPIRATORY infection. Which hazmat suit should you tell people to buy, for no reason becuase the public will not use them correctly"
People were not wearing mask correctly. Many were using an old t-shirt. So your excuse on not wearing a hazmat suit is flawed. You do not push hazmat suits because the powers to be did not tell you to wear one. If the powers to be told you to wear a hazmat suit you would wear one and you would be defending it. I bring it up as a hazmat suit would provide more protection. So why not wear one?
"You love to just pile things on: "What about this? What about that?" It's getting old. You aren't making points; you're trying to drown out real scientific evidence with nonsense"
Actually I proved my point. Your stopping point was with hazmat suits. If "the science" told you to wear one you would without question. You see, I am an actual scientist. I saw past all this BS. That is why I don't blindly obey. I bring up the hazmat suit and that is where you get all defensive because either
1. The powers to be did not tell you to wear one
or
2. That is your stopping point. That is where you felt it was ridiculous and going too far. To me going too far was demanding masks where many people were using old t-shirts as masks that did nothing.
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@RacheWA1 here is the problem with your sources, they are ignoring the harm done via the lockdowns, the distancing, the masks, etc. We had economic damage. Kids fell behind in their schools. You saw a spike in depression along with a spike in alcohol and substance abuse. You are doing the anti-science approach of just looking at the virus. I looked at the virus, I saw it was not that deadly and thus we should have gone back to normal in May of 2020. That the covid restrictions caused way more damage. That is why I bring up 12 feet and hazmat suits. There comes a point you are doing too much. Yes, separating ourselves can reduce transmission of diseases, so why not do 12 feet? Sure, masks may reduce the spread, so why not hazmat suits? You see, your stopping point was 6 feet and masks. My stopping point was to get back to normal as I saw the virus was not that deadly and the covid restrictions were causing more harm.
That is actual science, looking at the whole situation.
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@RacheWA1 " Refusing to show them and then showing outdated, debunked, or misinterpreted data only shows your lack of education and research skills."
When is a source outdated? When I wrote my dissertation I cited papers from the 50s. Heck, I cited one from the 1800s. It was still relevant. You are saying a source is outdated but do not give a reason.
"Perhaps people would actually listen to the important part of your argument, if you didn't completely refute the other side's factual scientific evidence without a single shred of good evidence."
I did refute your argument by showing how anti=science you are. You just focused on the virus. That was the entire problem with covid, only the virus was talked about. Not the damages of the lockdowns and covid restrictions. Even with you, you bring up covid death count when covid deaths are highly overstated. Someone in their 90s with multiple health issues dying with covid is not a covid death, that is called old age. My grandpa died in December, he was 93. They did an autopsy and I was like "why, he was 93, that is why he passed away".
"Two things can be true at the same time: masks, social distancing, and lockdowns helped mitigate the spread and death, but lockdowns did cause issues that should be addressed, because what happens with the next virus—one that is actually deadly?"
There comes a point in time where the lockdowns, the masks and social distancing caused more damage. Come May of 2020 we were at that point. You say what happens next time when there is a virus that is actually deadly? Well, many lost their trust in the government. I have. I was willing to look past everything until the vaccine mandate was pushed. Or not even that, even with a vaccine masks were being required and classes were still being shut down. At that point it was clear this wasn't about public health but about control. If you are vaccinated you were protected, so why require it? Those that don't want to take it can take the risk. That was my point where I cannot trust the government.
So next time there is a virus that is actually deadly many, like me, will ignore it. You guys did it to yourself. Because even at that I have said we have real world data to look at now and have a base if a deadly virus were to rise up. However so many are just sweeping the situation under the rug.
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@RacheWA1 "Why not use an earlier, more accurate article if the data is the same?"
Could not find one, but 2010 is still relevant.
"But 30% is less than half of the overall deaths, so 70% were of people not in nursing homes, not people on their deathbed that, to you, didn't matter if the rest of the world could go on. "
Sigh.......again, nursing home patients make up less than 5% of the population but made up 30% of deaths with covid. That is a disproportional amount. Also, not everyone on their "deathbed" are in nursing homes. My grandpa wasn't. Neither was my grandma when she died in 2010.
"Check your math and research again, being 30 did not give you a less than 1 percent chance. "
Sigh.......I am looking at death probability by the social security actuarial life table.
"30-39 age group had 19,735 deaths"
And how many people are in the 30 to 39 age range? Over 40 million. That 20,000 is 0.005% of the population in that age range.
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@laurendaryani4893 he pegs the liberal elites as the problem, not the people. Again, look at my Charlottesville example where he was saying there were fine people on both sides. He condemned white supremacy and the violence on the other side. But he did not paint one side as being completely bad. He knows there are good people on both sides. He knows there are Biden voters that are good people. He did not call Clinton voters a group of deplorables.
Trump goes after the elites, not the people. A reason why Trump won in 2016 was because he went after the elites and cared about the people where the elites, especially the liberal elites, go after the people and use the people for political gains.
"There were times he mused over witholding aid to blue states for having voted against him"
That never happened. In fact, during covid he gave a ship to NY to use as a temporary hospital where it was Cuomo that turned it back months later. He was offering military aid to stop the BLM riots but governors and mayors denied it. Also, it is not up to him on who gets financial aid, that is Congress.
" always whines about Dem-run cities despite there being plenty examples of how red cities AND states are no better, "
He is criticizing the elites, the leaders, not the people. That is different than the left who say "well those hillbillies in the south need an education and need to stop screwing their cousin".
"And by the way, it IS his voters/supporters who march on the streets shouting about Jews and praising ethnonationalist ideals (DIVISIVE beliefs)."
Which represents a small portion of his voting base and he condemned. There are violent people on the left. Remember how the left rioted for weeks after Trump won in 2016? I doubt you do but it happened. Or in 2020? And in 2020 you had democrat leaders endorsing the riots. The Seattle mayor called it the summer of love. The Portland mayor was with them saying he supports them as they try to burn down a federal courthouse. Or Maxine Waters violating curfew telling people to get more confrontational.
"How are these things not divisive, "
That is the people, not Trump. Trump was not saying that. You are all over the place here. Again, back to the Charlottesville example. Both sides have bad people. Yes, there are Trump voters who are bad people. It does not mean they all are. In fact, the vast majority are good people. I say the same about Biden voters. It is their leaders I view as bad. Trump goes after the leaders, the elites. He criticizes Biden, Pelosi, Harris, Clinton, etc. Not the people. Biden calls Trump supporters dangerous, showing some marching the streets to paint all Trump supporters as extremists. Clinton calls them deplorables. When Trump runs ads he criticizes the failures of Biden. He does not criticize the voters.
"I mean, there is no limit to which the right wing as we know it today will take their hatred of the left."
We are talking about Trump here. Yes, there are bad people on the right. There are bad people on the left. I read comments here about how there are claims that the right hates education, hate facts, are racists, are too far gone, that need deprogramming, etc. How is that not hateful? Look at Pakman's videos. He creates a lot of videos saying Trump supporters need to be deprogrammed or cherry pick people at Trump rallies that are not too bright when being challenged on the spot and points and laughs at them.
But again, we are talking about Trump here. Trump is not calling Biden voters dangerous or deplorables.
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@RVWKing actually those "30,000 plus lies" are a myth. Please, list them. And while doing so read Market Watch article titled "Washington Post’s 10,000 Trump untruths is about 25% fake news"
When you list anything as a lie, or twist words you will get any result you want. For example, if I were to say "the sun rise this morning was pretty" you can say "that is a lie, the sun does not rise, the earth rotation places our position on the earth in direct contact of the sun, the sun is stationary".
That is what people were doing when they were saying that Trump lied. But please, list some of those so called lies. And while you are at it, can you admit about Biden lies as well? Or other politicians' lies?
Also, you insults are not necessary. Please, try to remain civil is you want to be taken seriously. You know nothing about me.
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@TrumpIsA34TimeFelonAndRapist each point
1. Did nothing to reduce inflation. The Fed raising interest rates did. Also, investment in clean energy, like Proterra that went bankrupt?
2. It actually did not but OK
3. Uh, infrastructure expansion, like a train derailing and Biden's team not visiting that city, or the bridge in PA that fell apart even though they accepted infrastructure money
"replacing dirty diesel buses with clean, electric buses "
Yeah, Proterra went bankrupt. And those busses catching on fire sure are good on air quality
4. Our supply chain is terrible. I work for a scientific company, I am seeing it first hand. A part of what is harming it is the war between Russia and Ukraine which did not happen under Trump. Biden constantly funding Ukraine is keeping the war going.
5. You can't lower healthcare costs, it just raises the price elsewhere
So again, where is Biden's success? Under Trump we had no new wars and a strong economy.
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gregcauthon1958 to start on Covid, Trump did all he could do which was leave it to the states. For everyone that called Trump a fascist during a covid he could have done a power grab, instead he did all he was allowed to do. That as opposed to Biden pushing the vaccine mandate leading to many people retiring early hurting the economy.
Next, look at the numbers with Trump. According to FRED labor participation rate was dropping before Trump, it grew under Trump. According to the Atlanta Federal reserve wage growth under Obama was around 2%, it was over 3% under Trump. Even with more people getting work and getting paid more, inflation was low and so were interest rates. According to FRED from 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped over 5%, it grew over 3% under Trump. People had jobs, they had money to buy homes. According to the BLS since 2000 there were two times were union membership grew, in 2007 under Bush and in 2019 under Trump. So much for democrats being pro union.
I can keep going, do you want me to?
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@suzanneballou97 Biden did not misspeak, he meant it. Biden was playing damage control. As for Trump's hate-filled rhetoric, again, I will ask, when has Trump ever ridiculed Biden, Clinton or Harris voters? Please, tell me when. When Trump says something nasty about Harris or Biden I love it. People love it. It is one of the reasons why people like me supported Trump. We became tired of people like Clinton calling us deplorables, or Obama saying rural people only care about guns and gods, or that business owners did not build their businesses, or Romney saying he does not have to care about the 47% of people who pay no taxes.
You see, when Trump says something hateful it is towards the elites. When Harris says something hateful, it is towards the people. Like calling Trump's MSG rally a nazi rally. She literally called the people there nazis. Even if Harris wins, why would I ever support her or want her to have any kind of success? She thinks I am a nazi.
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People need to learn the law. This is a very high profile case, so a gag order means nothing. From Cornell Law School
"A "gag order" is the term for when a judge prohibits the attorneys, parties, or witnesses in a pending lawsuit or criminal prosecution from talking about the case to the public. However, a court will scrutinize any gag order under the right of free expression, protected by the First Amendment, and applies a heavy presumption against its constitutional validity, as with any prior restraint. See Carroll v. Princess Anne. In Nebraska Press Ass’n v. Stuart, the U.S. Supreme Court considered the following factors in analyzing the constitutionality of a gag order: “(a) the nature and extent of pretrial news coverage; (b) whether other measures would be likely to mitigate the effects of unrestrained pretrial publicity; and (c) how effectively a restraining order would operate to prevent the threatened danger [of an unfair trial for defendant].” In that case, however, the Court found that a lower court’s gag order was justified because publicity of alleged shocking crimes would be widespread and would likely reach a jury, impairing the defendant’s right to a fair trial. "
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@sithwolf8017 again, if I would have died from alcoholism during covid you would have said "well, at least he did not give others the sniffles". You did not care about the damage done by the covid restrictions. Kids' education being ruined. Many businesses being shut down forever. The psychological damage. The increases in alcohol and drug abuse. To you it was just covid.
I had the solution, if you are scared you stay home. We have the ability for people to do remote learning, work at home, get food delivered to them, etc. Let those people live in fear. Others, like me, will interact with society knowing the risk. There are risk far beyond covid. I can get in a car accident, get bitten by a rabid animal, get mugged by someone, catch some other disease besides covid, etc. That has been my entire life and yours. But you freaked out over covid and then decided to destroy other people's lives.
You don't care about others. You are selfish. I am for giving people's a choice.
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@jamie_lou with kids dying the number was basically zero in the large scale. Kids die all the time, but the number is low. That is why we have never shut down in the past for them. If you look at those that died with covid and compare those in the ages of 0-17 to those over 85, there were 187 times more deaths in the ages of 85+ compared to those 0-17. That is huge. Listen, I feel bad for the kids that die, but that has always been the case.
As to your points
1. It was a face diaper. If you want to wear one then fine, go for it. I know people who were one pre covid and had no problem. Just don't force me to wear one. That is where the problem lies. Also, many people were wearing cloths that did nothing as the whole thing was stupid. But again, if you want to wear one go ahead. I am not going to stop you.
2. Yes, you are scared. You can claim you are not scared but you are. But it goes beyond that. It is when you start forcing others to do it. That is the problem
3. No, people did not care about my alcoholism. I fought a lot to get back to normal so I can have my cure. I was told to just "shut up and wear a mask" or "stay at home". People did not want to listen to my concerns. But when it came to covid, a disease that almost all had a well over 99% chance of surviving from, man we needed to stop the world.
You say I have no empathy, here is the issue. The moment you step outside of your front door you are taking a risk in life. As I said, I have no problem with people wearing a face diaper, it is when you force others to do it. I have no problem following some irrational health guidelines, it is when you force others to do it.
The problem I have is you forcing others to cater to you. I never do that. I know people who had compromised immune systems that hated the covid restrictions, that wanted to live life. I, along with others, rather have died from covid enjoying life as opposed to living in fear.
So again, it boils down to this. If you are scared then you hide. You wear a face diaper, you do all of that. What you do not do is force others to do it. What you do not do is lock people who who are not infected because of "contact tracing". What you do not do is shut down businesses and schools.
Do you understand? I doubt it.
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@jamie_lou and you can say I have no empathy. Here is the reality, on kids. I have known kids who have died playing football. Should we ban that? Or should we accept the idea that kid wanted to play and was having fun doing so and there was a freak accident that killed them. Same with the virus. We can shelter a kid from it, but then what is their life worth? Or we can allow them to go to school, to the park and play. Tragedies happen.
I can die today leaving my apartment, but I rather leave my apartment and enjoy life as opposed to living in fear. You say I have no empathy, you are the one that has no empathy. There were nursing home patients striking saying they rather die of covid as opposed to being alone when they were not allowed to see loved ones.
Again, if you are scared you hide. And with my alcoholism, when I am at events I don't demand people don't drink. I am not pushing to ban alcohol. If someone wants to have a beer while being next to me then I am fine with that. I have learned to control it. I don't stand there and yell "don't drink, alcohol is bad". If they want to enjoy life and have a drink that is fine. I still go to bars, I just don't drink. I am not pushing to ban alcohol.
You people are wanting to force other people to cater to you, that is the issue. Again, if you want to wear a face diaper then go ahead. I am not stopping you. Just don't force me to wear one.
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@sithwolf8017 uh.....do you know how laws are created? They are not created off of governor's orders. You have a bill that is written. The legislation debates it and votes on it. It goes to the governor can pass it or veto it. And if passed, it goes to the courts to determine if it is constitutional or not.
You live in a world of black and white, I don't. You do not even know how laws are created in this nation.
"Kids die while playing sports? We invest in better equipment, train sport officials in first aid, have first aid equipment within immediate reach the second something happens, and even have a medical professional on site at the sporting event just in case with emergency services on speed dial in order to MITIGATE the risk of death or injury."
And kids still die. Gee, what a concept. According to you we should just ban all sports. That is your stance based on your stance on covid. My stance on covid was that if you wanted to live in fear and stay home you can. Same with sports, if you were scared then don't play sports. Simple.
But again, you do not know how laws are created in this nation.
"See the problem is you have no clue what mitigation means hence your "whatever happens happens" attitude towards life."
Uh, no, I 100% understand it. Again, with covid, I knew the risk of it existing. I choose to go out and live life. I fully supported the option of people staying home and living in fear. We have grocery delivery. We had remote learning. As I said with one of my grad student colleagues, the university gave her the option like everyone else to work at home to fulfill her TA contract and get paid. Instead she worked on campus and demanded people wear masks around her, even when the mask mandate was dropped. That is her being selfish. She had the option to stay home, do remote learning and work at home and not demand others cater to her.
Your problem is that you want people to cater to you. Fun fact, the moment you step outside of your home you are interacting with society and are taking risk. Do you want everyone to pull over on the road so you can drive it on your own and not get in an accident? I bet you do. That is your stance. My stance is if you are scared, you stay home.
When I drive to work tomorrow I know the risk of getting in an accident. I don't demand others cater to me. Just like with covid, I knew the risk of the virus existing. I did not demand people wear a face diaper, or quarantine even though they were healthy with no symptoms. I did not demand other things from people. And laws we have in place in society were put in place via an act of congress, and passed by the governor, and determined to be constitutional by the courts. A strict process.
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@sithwolf8017 "For example quote me verbatim where I said I wanted to ban all sports"
That is what you are leading to. I understand mitigation. I also understand that at some point it causes more damage.
In my MBA studies we discussed traffic deaths. Around 40,000 die a year in traffic accidents. You know what will make that number to be zero? Capping all vehicle speeds to 15 mph. Yes, we have traffic laws to alleviate traffic deaths, but they still happen. So capping all vehicle speeds to 15 mph will make that zero. But then what will happen to our society, our economy? My commute time to work will be over 2 hours. Say goodbye to overnight delivery.
There comes a point where the mitigation causes more damage, and that was my point on covid. Come May of 2020 it was 100% clear this virus was not that dangerous and we needed to get back to normal. That people's lives were being ruined from the covdi restrictions. Kids' education was ruined. The economy was ruined. Businesses were closed forever, etc. You had the psychological damage and the spike in alcohol and drug abuse. The mitigation was causing more damage. That is my point.
I was all for protecting the vulnerable that wanted to be protected. I am all for allowing people who were scared to stay home. But most wanted to get back to normal because to them that was a better way of life.
Same with the nursing home patients. Yes, we could have completely shielded them from the outside so they don't get covid, but is that a life worth living? Most wanted to see loved ones knowing it met they could catch covid.
So no, you did not want to help people. You wanted to demand others live a life you felt was best and refused to listen to them. And yes, your approach was that of zero deaths. Similar to banning sports for kids or capping vehicle speed limits to 15 mph. You did not care about the negative consequences as long as it did not lead to deaths in certain cases.
So to you, you did not care that quarantining people led to psychological issues, or led to businesses being shut down for good, or kids falling behind in education as long as it led to zero covid deaths. You ignore all other negative consequences and focused only on covid deaths that you wanted to be zero.
As I said, I could have died from alcoholism and you would not have cared as long as it was not a covid death.
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@sithwolf8017 "People die no matter what so we should stop mitigating the damage and let every preventable death happen without taking any action to prevent it. "
Nope, never said that. There is this thing called opportunity cost. I know definitions are difficult for you but it is the loss or potential gain from one alternative when another is chosen.
Going back to traffic accidents and deaths. Yes, we can make traffic deaths to be zero by capping all vehicles to be 15 mph, but the cost would be an economy that is not good. And productivity that is not good. So us, as society, while having traffic laws to alleviate traffic deaths, accept some level of deaths to keep productivity up.
Same with covid. Yes, we could all lock down at home and stop the spread. But as we have seen it led to a bad economy, a spike in alcohol and drug abuse, kids falling behind in education, bad psychological health, etc. Thus, it is better to go back to normal realizing the survival rate is well over 99% and the covid restrictions caused more damage.
So yes, people will die with covid, but the alternative was way worse.
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@ed9121
"No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story."
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@ed9121 "And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.
Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.
We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America."
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Here is the thing, most of what you said is simply false. Trump is the same person that in the 80s a black woman was attacked and thrown out of a building and Trump paid for her medical bills and visited her in the hospital. Jesse Jackson praised Trump for all the work he has done for the black community. Trump did not have to run for president, he could have retired and golfed the rest of his life. Instead he ran because he cared about the nation and wanted to improve it. As for your lies, your comment is pretty long so I won't cover it all (I can if you want when I have time), but here
"That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw."
Never did that. That was debunked long ago.
"That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" "
Which there is a point there. I don't read a lot of books. I read a lot of papers.
"That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" "
He had condemned Nazis and white supremacists many times.
"That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." "
A lot of context here. To start, they admitted to their crimes but a woke politician let them off. Next, it was at a time when crime was high thus you had the passage of the crime bill that Biden pushed for. And also, it goes back to that black woman I mentioned being attacked and thrown out of a building that Trump paid for her medical bills. Crime was high at that time, especially in New York. So there was a strong push to end it. So you had a group of 5 people admitting to a crime what do you think people will feel like?
People like you are why Trump is elected. You deny reality, elect a man with dementia the creates an administration of incompetent people and it destroys our nation.
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@PhannoPuff where is the evidence that Trump pooped his pants in court? And what do you have on Trump? You said Trump had an episode yesterday but do not say what and how. Well, if you want to go by that standard Biden just had one now. Oh, there is another one.
Also, Trump is constantly campaigning, traveling, in front of the camera and fighting legal battles. Even with doing all of that he is fine. Biden is hiding in his basement most of the time. He hardly takes questions from the media and then jokes about it. Trump is constantly talking to the media. They are hiding Biden because when he does speak in front of the media he will say things like his dad was eaten by cannibals, or on May 9th Biden said Candice Parker will go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time. She recently retired as a player, she has never coached. Trump was constantly answering questions as president, Biden is nowhere to be seen.
You say it is obvious who has the most episodes when one, you give zero examples for Trump and two, Biden is hardly in the spotlight, but when he is he has an episode.
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@andyteran4370 To start, Trump is not a racist. Next, she got destroyed in the debate. She had energy, she has no experience. During her VP she was hidden as when she did speak she sounded foolish. As for a smart black woman, did you hear his interview for the NABJ? Amazing. He was calm, answered the questions, called out journalists who were rude. Trump is on fire. What is Harris going to say on stage....."well, you know, Trump is like, weird......Ok, like really weird hahahah". Yeah, that sure will win voters.
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I am a scientist myself and I received an NIH grant at one point. The reality is that RFK Jr is not the one that is going to do the investigation. He is going to play the role of management that will have a team do the investigation which is what is needed. The fact is this, we are an unhealthy nation all around. And we do have a sector of the population that blindly trusted certain institutions like the CDC, FDA, NIH, etc. It has led to problems as it eventually led to covid. During covid we were jerked around, you had censorship, you had lies from people like the CDC director and Fauci. Eventually the CDC director admitted they needed better messaging. We had the lies of the covid vaccine, the push for mandates with people losing their jobs. People lost their jobs and many their lives due to the covid restrictions. And after the dust settled no apologize, not push to actually learn form the incident.
As a result of all of that many people, including myself, lost faith in major institution. Imagine if a disease with even a 5% mortality rate were to hit us that was just as contagious as covid? Would you trust the CDC? I wouldn't. Many like me will say "you fooled us once during covid, not going to work this time". What we need to to have more transparency, is to keep doing research in these vaccines, our medicine, and be more open to the people to regain trust. As of now many people, like myself, don't trust the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, etc. after the whole covid mess that I have called a plandemic many times at this point.
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@OneTheBlue we can. It will be hard because her and I had different goals in life.
I obtained a PhD in physical chemistry and an MBA. Before that I received two degrees, one in physics and one in biology. After my doctorate I work in industry for a scientific company and make over 6 figures. I work as a scientist. My manager I can work my way up to sales or management positions and I said no, I like being a scientist. While I would get paid more I get paid enough as is and I have flexibility to do other things like get involved in my community.
You may say her resume is superior but again, I had different goals. I had zero desire to study law, to get into politics, to get into the Senate, to become the president. Just like I assume Harris had zero desire to study science, go to grad school, earn a PhD doing novel work in the field of science and go through the publication and peer reviewed process. Write a dissertation and defend it. And then apply for a job and settle down in that position.
So like I said, it is hard to compare, really impossible. Do you think Harris understands science more than me? Especially the field of spectroscopy which I work in? I doubt it. How about we compare a truck driver to Harris. If that truck driver enjoys living on the road, seeing places, driving a truck then fine, he had different goals in life. Does Harris know how to drive an 18 speed on a 15 mile 8% grade in the rain? I doubt it. I would not be surprise if she does not even know how to drive a clutch.
Your comment shows why so many hate Harris and supported Trump. It is the elitism attitude that Harris is better than us. Trump actually interacted with the everyday people and cared for them. Harris does not. And your comment is not good.
But answer this, based on my resume, do you think Harris is better to me and I should just bow down to her because we picked different paths in life?
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@OneTheBlue that is not the point. You see, there are many people with a similar resume as me. A PhD with research experience. However, a part of my job is to train customers, give presentations, talk to customers at the booths at conferences. I have to speak to them in a way they understand the science. And not just that, but how it is related to their field.
I have a colleague who has a PhD, more experience in industry, but has the same role as me for the past couple of years. They are not doing well as their communication skills are terrible. If you compare their resume to mine you may say they are more qualified as they have more years in industry. But their experience was not high in customer interface.
So there is more to it than having a resume. That is why you have job interviews, yearly performances, etc. And even at that, if someone cannot do the job they get let go.
So you look at Harris' resume and you may say "she is qualified". Well, here is my counter argument. She was bad at the debates. As VP when asked serious questions that she could not answer she laughs which is not appropriate. She has radical policies and gives poor speeches. This is the interview process.
Also, to add on the resume, she has zero leadership experience. She was a DA and then a senator. That was a similar path to Obama, an adjunct night professor and a one term senator. No leadership experience like Bill Clinton had. Bill Clinton was a great president, second best in my lifetime behind Trump. He was governor of Arkansas, leadership experience. Working with others that will disagree with you. Getting outside of your comfort zone. Harris has none of that. That is why she got destroyed in the debate, she was outside of her comfort zone which was CA politics and she failed. Just like Obama was outside of his comfort zone and failed.
Compare that to my colleague and myself. He has more industry experience, but lack interaction with people in general. One part I did not tell you is that I am a sports official, have been for 16 years. As such I have to speak to coaches, players, game admin, other officials. An example I have to explain the rules in a way they understand. I can say "well coach, per rule 7-3-10 an ineligible player is downfield.......". I say "coach, number 74 was 4 yards down field on that pass". Same with science, in explaining spectroscopy I can't say "you apply the transition dipole operator to the eigenvector.....", I say "in uv-vis you have electrons that are excited to an excited state."
You see the difference? Now with Harris she was never challenged. So when challenged she laughs at awkward moments when an important issue is discussed. There is a video of her in Poland when a question about refugees was asked. She looked awkwardly, could not get an answer and gave her annoying laugh. Wow, I see how she feels about refugees, she never even thought about it. No wonder our border is a mess.
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@littlelou050 so you are saying he worked and prep and still did bad? Not really creating much confidence. Imagine him speaking off the cuff with world leaders? And what has Biden been doing? What world leaders is he speaking to? I saw him in Italy, him wondering off, him saluting the prime minister of Italy.
What has Biden gotten done? High inflation? More wars? Not really a success. As Trump said, world leaders do not respect him. Putin saw the disaster of the pull out of Afghanistan and saw it as an opportunity to invade Ukraine knowing Biden won't do anything. Same with Iran.
"do you think no other president has had their off days? "
Not this bad.
" people thought obama was a moron during his debates."
At least he looked awake and alert. What we saw last week are what people on the right have been saying about Biden for 3 years now. Looking for Jackie when the crowd when she is dead, claiming to have spoken to dead people, falling asleep, doing some weird thing like he is crapping his pants, trying to shake invisible people's hands. Heck, did you see the end of his rally after his debate? He turned to his left and tried to shake an invisible person's hand and then did some weird hop like he was going to run off stage and then stopped. What we saw last week is normal for him now.
I will be honest, when I was watching the debate my bar for Biden has been set so low I thought he reached it. That is how bad he is. My bar was that he could not last the full 90 minutes, that he would mumble a lot more, that he will forget words like he did when he said he finally beat medicare. I was expecting more of that as that is what we have been seeing for 3 years.
"when trump sits there or leans heavily on the podium and rambles incoherently.. what goes through your mind?"
I think that is what he has been doing for decades. Trump is coherent. Does he ramble? Sure, but with his approach that is actually a sign of an intelligent person, that he has many thoughts in his head but he can express that. That as opposed to Biden who mumbles and gets lost.
"the president is actively working to make your life easier."
Well I did not know higher prices made my life easier. Gee, I really do like that higher grocery bill and energy bill Biden created. Sure makes my life easier.
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@LauraRodriguez-po2vx there is a difference between someone belittling you or degrading you. If I am dealing with a customer and they are degrading me I can simply ask to not work with them. If they get personal I can say something back and at that point management steps in. I am free to defend myself from being degraded.
That is something different than having a difference in political belief. A politician in your workplace, or someone with a difference in political belief than you is not a threat to you personally, period. You say
"I'm not a follower so nobody intimidated me"
What is intimidating with what Vance did? Did he degrade those workers personally? No. He has a difference in beliefs politically, and that is it. I dealt with many people like that, especially in graduate school. I was professional because that is what you do and I also know that in the end those people's political beliefs mean nothing to me personally.
You say
" Never feared losing a job because I am a highly educated and trained professional."
Here is the harsh reality, everyone is expendable, period. I am highly educated and a trained professional, I can lose my job if I make a mistake. Can I find another one? Sure. But that means going through the job hunt process again and possibly moving again. Also, if you keep acting unprofessional you develop a reputation.
I feel you are a fool. I dislike Harris and all that she stands for. If she were to visit my lab I will treat her with respect and not bring up politics. If she did I would say who I support, but again, I will be respectful. Why? Because in the end of the day she does not pay my salary, she does not have a strong influence on where I live, what I do for a living, what activities I do, and how I live my life as a whole. And here is a reality check for you, Vance has little to now influence in how you live, how much you make, what you do for a living and your life as a whole.
It seems like you are not very educated and not very professional.
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@Judhes I broke down how things were better. People could afford homes, people could afford to pay their bills and groceries, gas was cheaper. The world was a more peaceful place with no new wars. For policies, allowing for more drilling and fracking, the tax cuts, relaxing business regulations, reducing spending, limiting the role of the federal government.
"Economic policies take time to have an impact, that is why Democratic administrations always end with more jobs created than when it started, and Republican administrations always end with jobs lost and a larger deficit than when it started. "
And that is a blanket statement that is not true. Take the deficit. According to FRED the deficit under Trump was a percent of GDP is less than 5%. Under Obama's first three years it was over 5% and would have remained that way if republicans did not take over the house and slow down spending. Under Obama it was over 5% and at times around 8%. The deficit was higher under Obama and Biden compared to Trump.
"That is why almost all red states have a deficit while almost all blue states have a surplus"
That is also not true. Most states have to balance the budget to begin with. I am sorry but you are making things up with no citations.
"Look at other countries recovering from the global economic crisis due to Covid, America had the strongest recovery thanks to Democrats, thanks to Biden"
Our recovery was awful. Inflation was less than 2% when Biden took office, it grew to over 9%. Biden wanted a vaccine mandate leading to many retiring early hurting our workforce and productivity which we still have not recovered from yet. Our military is lacking troops as no one wants to work for Biden. Consumers are seeing it first hand which is why they voted for Trump.
" No wonder Trump said he loves the poorly educated"
I have a PhD in physical chemistry and an MBA. You guys literally shut down schools in 2020 and 2021. So much for you guys supporting education.
"Please put some effort into educating yourself and not stay hopelessly stupid forever."
Again, these insults pushed me to vote for Trump. You guys are going to have to learn the hard way.
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@christineperez6846 "also classless Billybob the name is so so Trump support lol"
So you can't criticize my point.
"having a stutter like Biden has he has been able to be a senator for years then vice president for 8 years and now president for 8 years! "
I have heard Biden speak, he did not have a stuttering problem. I have heard people with a stuttering problem. During his VP he spoke very well. I only heard of his so call stuttering problem when he became president and could not speak. You are making excuses.
"he comes from a humble back ground"
Of corruption. He graduated near the bottom of his class in law school and became a career politician. What has he ever done outside of being a Senator? Nothing. He is a corrupt, career politician.
I find it funny how for years "progressives" talked about going against war, big pharma, the establishment, the MSM, big businesses, etc. But the moment Trump becomes president and is against all of that, you guys run to one of the most established, corrupt war mongering man ever to be president.
But again, you guys endorsed the covid lockdowns. Just lockdown and wear a mask in your car without question because the liberal elites told you to.
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@noadlor "I am not American, but I am curious. Where do you get your information from? "Top ten best president", "good economy". Both wrong."
Well, I don't fully trust anyone. I listen to talking heads but with high doubt. The only people I listen to with the least doubt are Matt Christiansen, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Matt the most and he hardly talks about Trump. Clay and Buck are good but at times they get too extreme. I listen to others to be honest in criticism.
As for my opinions on Trump I look at many sources. With the economy I look mainly at FRED. But to start on Trump being top ten, first look at his international success. The world was more peaceful under him. I have been alive since Reagan, first president in my lifetime to not get us involved in a new war. Putin does not invade Ukraine under Trump, he does under Biden. Under Trump there were two years where N Korea did not launch any missiles. They have launched more under Biden. Under Trump China was not escalating tension with Taiwan. Under Biden they are threatening war with Taiwan.
Trump spearheaded the Abrahams Accord pushing for peace in the Middle East. Under Biden we have a new war in the Middle East.
Trump pulled out of the worthless Iran Deal and the Paris Climate Agreement. He was strong in his international success. The pure fact the world was more peaceful should excite most people. Do you enjoy more wars?
On his economic success according to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wage growth under Obama was around 2%, it was over 3% under Trump. Under Biden it was over 5%, but that was because many people went from earning 0 to earning something. It has been dropping lately.
According to FRED labor force participation rate was dropping since 1999. Under Trump it was going up. Under Biden we have not reached that level. Even with more entering the workforce wages were still going up. According to FRED from 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped around 7%. Under Trump it grew around 6%. Under Biden it has been stagnant.
Under Trump the economy was strong with people seeing increases in wages, low inflation, low interest rates, people can afford homes. The numbers don't lie. I am sorry. I bet you think I am getting my info from Fox News. I look up the numbers myself.
How about you give me reasons with citations why Trump was bad.
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@noadlor "Then you mentioned elites, avoiding the fact that Trump is a born with a silver spoon in his mouth elite who chose as one of his first acts as president to cut elites taxes"
Trump cut corporate tax cuts to match what is in other developed nations like Sweden. Our rate was over 30% where Sweden was around 20% prior to Trump. He cut us down to match other developed nations.
Trump wanted to make the tax cuts permanent for the middle and lower class. However, to do that you need 60 votes in the Senate. Every democrat senator voted against the tax cuts.
As for Trump being rich, so what. Tell me has Trump ever criticized and ridiculed Biden voters? Never. Biden called Trump supporters dangerous. Clinton called them a group of deplorables. You know what Trump canceled all years he was president? The White House Correspondent Dinner. An event where rich members of the media all have dinner and crack jokes that mock average Ameticans, such as joking about inflation. You know, because inflation sure is funning.
"But the hypocrisy escapes you. These wars were going to happen no matter who was US president. "
But they didn't. Wow, are you that obtuse? Biden becomes president and Russia invades Ukraine. And how does the US respond? Giving money to Ukraine to fuel the war. Trump, when asked if he would support Ukraine as president Trump said he wanted people to stop dying and he will end the war.
"The difference being, that Trump would have already pulled out of NATO and helped Putin overtake eastern Europe."
Trump wanted Russia to become part of the Western world, Putin does as well. NATO does not as they are worthless and corrupt. Russia culture is changing where the older generation still has the communist mentality but the younger generation has the more capitalist mentality. Putin knows that and wants to become part of the Western world. It was not going to happen over night. Trump wanted more peace, NATO wants war.
Also, what has NATO done to help Ukraine? Is Ukraine a part of NATO yet?
Again, do you like war?
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@iak706 "First, it would be silly to think that trump doesnt pay more taxes because the tax code doesn't require him to. Perhaps you should look into the lawsuit against him in new york that he lost"
It is not silly at all. He gets audited all the time. What law suit did he lose? Also, the conversation was federal taxes.
"The one where he made it look like his properties were less valuable on paper, so that he could pay less tax."
Oh, you mean the lawsuit where he did that years ago and now he is being challenged on it because the political left hates him? That was an asinine suit. You mean the bank and government cannot do an audit? Seems like either banks are not smart or the IRS.
"As president he signed a large permanent tax cut for the top 1% of earners, continued to spend and create the largest deficits in u.s. history"
He did not do a permanent tax cut for the 1%. Again, to get that you need 60 votes in the Senate. He did not gat that. He did a corporate tax cut to 21% to bring it down to the level of European nations.
Next, on the deficit, if you look at FRED stats his deficit as percent of GDP was less than 5%. Obama's first 3 years was over 5% until the republicans took over the House. Under Biden's first 2 years it was over 5%. So both Obama and Biden, with Democrat controlled congresses had a higher deficit.
"That deficit spending was a major contributor to recent inflation."
What caused mass inflation were democrats shutting down businesses telling people not to work while giving them free money. Production was down and money was being created left and right.
And again, Biden's deficit with a democrat controlled congress was higher compared to Trump. It is only going down now because a republican House, just like they did with Obama, is slowing down spending.
I am sorry, facts matter. You can look up FRED stats on that.
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@jasjfl 1. There was no investigation of the 2020 election. There was of the 2016 election of Russia collusion which showed there was no Russia collusion. Even at that, this still does not change the fact that you presented a quote and misrepresented it. Trump never said he wanted to terminate the Constitution. You completely misrepresented a quote. Also, he never incited a riot. You guys keep crying about Jan 6th when Trump condemned that riot, he tweeted telling people to stop, and we had months of riots in 2020 the left endorsed, including Harris who supported bailing out the rioters in Minnesota.
2. Yes, the president does not have authority. That is why with covid it was left up to the states. States ran by democrat governors failed in their actions with prolong lockdowns that were unnecessary leading to a bad economy and kids falling behind in their education.
3. Yes, it was a joke. Trump was strong on world leaders. Noticed how there were no new wars under Trump? There are under Biden because Trump put leaders in their place. Now you have N Korea sending troops to Russia. Imagine Harris as president, Xi will laugh at her and start WWIII.
And please stop with Jan 6. No one cares. Ask a random person on the street about it. The only people who care about Jan 6th are Trump haters. Again, you had months of riots in 2020 the left endorsed. And all you guys have going for you is Jan 6th, one day that Trump condemned. Wow, congrats. You have a winner there. Keep harping on Jan 6th while I can point to the months of riots in 2020. You guys are like the team that scored 3 points in a game you lost 60 to 3. You celebrated your 3 points as if you won the Super Bowl. You guys are losers.
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@dianebannister4591 "Here are some: *There was fraud in the 2020 election. TRUTH: no fraud. Election proven valid for Biden"
There was with the lies of covid and racism in our nation and states like Pennsylvania changing their voting laws at the last minute without using congress.
" *LIE: he didn't have sex with the porn star. TRUTH: yes he did"
Stormy changed her story going from it was consent to it going to "me too". Hard to believe her
"*LIE: he said that Biden has the biggest deficit currently. No, it was Trump who had the biggest deficit most probably because of giving the wealthiest persons the biggest tax break."
To start, he did not give the rich any tax breaks. Next, look at the deficit as percent of GDP. It is much higher under Biden. Under Trump, according to FRED, it was below 5%. Under Biden it has been higher than 5%. So Trump is correct here. Please, learn statistics if you are going to have an opinion on the economy.
"He said Pelosi turned down 10,000 troops for January 6th. Not true. She is not permitted to deploy troops to the Capitol"
Actually she is and Trump isn't. Trump cannot deploy troops on Congress as that will violate separation of powers.
"He said that Biden indicted him. Biden didn't indict anyone."
A member of Biden's DOJ stepped down to help with the hush money case, so yes, Biden did indict Trump.
"Biden doesn't interfere with the justice department. "
Such as his son Hunter receiving a sweet heart deal.......
"Heck, his own son was indicted and convicted and he didn't interfere with that case"
His son was given a deal so ridiculous that a federal judge had to deny it. Also, Hur said Biden is not able to stand trial for the document case where Garland refuses to release the interview tapes.
"You can look up various sites yourself what LIES Trump told. You don't need to be so lazy to expect anyone on this thread to take out time and make lists for you. "
Sigh.....that is the issue. If you are going to make a claim you better back it up. People here claim Trump lied. So I challenged them and no one can produce anything. You tried and I easily debunked you. So you are going to make the same excuse as everyone else. Fact is you cannot list any lies Trump made as he did not make any. Biden has been lying all throughout his presidency from claiming his uncle was eaten by cannibals, to claiming he was a truck driver, or even in the debate citing the suckers and losers comment that has been debunked, or the very fine people comment that has been debunked. You guys have nothing. You guys are delusional. I mean, I am starting to feel bad for you guys for being this delusional.
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@y0uCantHandle no, with Biden it is all about him. "Oh, your state have hundreds missing due to fires, well gee, at one point in my life my Corvette almost burnt down due to a small kitchen fire". Or "gee, I messed up Afghanistan, well my son died in combat" which is 100% not true. It is all about him. Just like in the LA fires, after he gave his little speech he had to bring up the fact that he has a new grandchild. Yep, that is sure going to excite people who lost their homes. "Man, I lost my home, but hey, Biden has a new grandchild so all is good".
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@alericjohansen6775 OK, now for a legit rebuttal. I will go point by point, but a big thing this person misses out on is how the economy was better for the average working American, stats I will cite at the end after the rebuttal. Number by each clip starting with GDP at 1.
1. While it is fair to look at GDP as it does represent overall economic growth, that is also the flaw. The economy can grow at a high rate and the overall economy can still be bad. Ethiopia has a GDP growth of over 5%, is that the economic model we want to follow? Also, if your growth is top heavy, those on the bottom won't benefit (a key thing about the Obama vs Trump economy). So there are flaws in looking at GDP growth.
2. This kid cites unemployment talking about jobs which is flawed. Unemployment is based on how many people are looking for a job. If a good portion of people are not looking for a job unemployment can still be low. Case in point, via FRED stats labor participation rate was dropping for years but so was the unemployment rate. Less percent of people were working but the unemployment rate was still dropping at times. Why? Less people are looking for jobs.
Next, according to FRED stats, and using the same time frame as this kids used, Obama went from around 131 million jobs to 146 million jobs from June 2009 to May 2017, that is 1.875 million jobs a year. Trump went from 146 million to 1520 million from June 2017 to June 2019, 2 million a year. So Trump's rate was higher.
3. This kid's own source contradicts him. Looking at his source from 2009 to 2016 manufacturing grew 1,693 billion of dollars to 2098 billion of dollars. From 2017 to 2019 it went from 2192 billion of dollars to 2364 billion of dollars. So under Obama it went up around 300 billion of dollars in 8 year and under Trump it went up 200 billion of dollars in 2 years. A higher rate under Trump
4. So far this kid is 0-3 with the GOP platform being correct
5. To start, no one inherits anything, they fight for the job and they get it. Next, to assume inflation is unavoidable is a weak argument. You can have recovery without inflation going up. But beyond that, say inflation is not avoidable, what should also go up are wages. A key thing is that inflation outpaced wage growth. According to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wage growth was peaking around 6% under Biden, but that was when inflation was at 9%. Under Trump wage growth was over 3% (higher than Obama) when inflation was around 2%. Under Trump wage growth was outpacing inflation. That is key.
This kid ends the video bringing up two deceptive points. One is home pricing. According to FRED from 2004 to 2016 homeownership rate dropped around 6%. From 2016 to 2020 it grew 5%. While home prices were higher, people were able to buy homes. Next was comparing corporate profits to household income. Corporate profits growing 17% does not mean household income will grow 17%. No corporation will take all their profit growth and give it to only the employees. That corporation will be stagnant. Yes, some of it will go to the employees, but other parts of it will go in expansion depending on the company such as R&D, quality control, expanding their footprint, etc. I work for a major corporation, top 100 in Forbes. When profits are high there are two things I enjoy in the company. One, my manager is not on me trying to get numbers up as higher up in the chain of command they are trying to get numbers up and it falls down to the bottom eventually. Next is expansion. I work in a lab and we overgrew it. We have a chance to expand to an empty unit next door. However, since the numbers were down it was denied. If numbers were up it would have been approved allowing us to expand our lab giving me more space. So there is that.
6. Pointing to FBI stats on crime is flawed as the FBI admitted they are slow in releasing the full data and in October of 2024 FBI updated their numbers showing an increase in crime under Biden. This is actually a part of making government more efficient Trump wants to do as people lost trust in the federal government, and rightfully so.
7. Right away there is a flaw here. Trump wants to bring back stay in Mexico policy. Next, this guy brings up some are waiting trial as if they will show up to their court date. Side note, around the 12:20 mark this kid gives a graph with no labels on the axis, very careless and unreliable. Moving on, using the northern border, airports and coastal borders is legit and a concern we need to focus on. The northern border was an issue when I was in grad school years ago in the early 2010s. It counts. But after that, repeat offenders are a big problem and need to be handled more harshly to get it in their head to come here legally. And those released waiting trial is a problem as our justice system is already overloaded. Many have a court date that won't come up until many years from now. And there is no guarantee they will show up. This is why the remain in Mexico is important. Keep them in Mexico and then sort them out. Not release them in the US and trusting they will appear to their court date when they won't.
Sigh.....the whole bipartisan bill talking point. There was no bipartisan bill. The bill in reference was a Senate bill a handful of republicans supported by a handful of democrats did not. Also, it was not going to pass the House as the House had their own bill that was vastly different than the Senate bill. Also, no bill is needed, just enforce the current laws on the books. And this does not include the bad part of the bills such as giving more money to Ukraine which means what to immigration?
The border issue is big. There is no need for a bill as there are laws on the books to fix it, they need to be enforced.
8. So far this kid is 0-6.
9. Sigh....back to the old talking point on military spending. Look a percent of GDP on defense spending, we are comparable to other nations. We are about 3.5%. Yes, we spend 8 times more than Saudi Arabia in defense, our GDP is 27 times larger than them. Saudi Arabia spend defense spending is at 7%. This kid is being very ignorant at this point. You can't take any of his numbers seriously at this point when he approaches them like that.
Our military is lacking numbers as people do not want to serve under Biden who chased people away with his vaccine mandate and made Levine an admiral.
10. Recap. I have easily debunked everything this kid said. Minus his carelessness of showing graphs with unlabeled axis, he started out this video criticizing talking points but then proceeds to give talking points such as the "bipartisan immigration bill" which was hardly that, or defense spending and comparing raw numbers of nations as opposed to percent of GDP. Or his complete lack of understanding of how corporations function and that 100% of profits are not going to go to employees (some will) as doing so will lead to stagnation of that corporation. Or his assumption inflation was going to go up regardless but even at that it far outpaced wage growth. This video is easy to debunk. And I do not even have to get into numbers that favored the consumers under Trump such as lower gas prices, higher wage growth, people can afford bills and buy homes, etc. Things that the average working American directly sees.
I see the stats, reality is that under Trump things were better. Job growth was at a higher wage, homeownership rate grew, wage growth was higher, etc. Obama's economy was stagnant at best, Biden's economy was terrible. I agree, politics is not a team sport, it is people's lives. People's lives were better under Trump and the numbers and facts show it. I looked at Obama, Biden and Trump and it is clear the economy was much better under Trump.
11. Trump wanted another relief package for covid, Nancy Pelosi denied it. This kid needs to know his facts.
12. I agree, there is a lot of misinformation out there. I don't blame people for that as people are busy. I spent days studying the numbers and facts of the Obama, Trump and Biden administration. Reality is things were much better under Trump. This kid wanting laws on social media to stop spreading misinformation is scary. Who decides what is misinformation? Do you want to give that power to a Trump administration that calls people fake news? I don't. I don't want to give it to Biden or Obama either. Free speech is the free exchange of ideas. It is on the individual to determine what is true.
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@alericjohansen6775 part 2
13. Funny this kid brings up fox news. I see this video was uploaded before ABC having to admit what George said about Trump was not true and had to pay up. Hmmm......
Also, all news organization gives, at least, misleading information. I see it in all news sources. Funny how this kid does not give examples of that and only points to Fox News. A big reason why Trump won in 2024 was because saw through the lies of CNN and MSNBC along with left wing independent media. I find it funny how this kid cited the "suckers and losers" comment where no recording of Trump saying that. That lie was debunked, but this kid does not mention that. I wonder why.
14. Oh this video did not age well. The call into Georgia was legal. Al Gore was doing similar things in 2000 with the FL recount. Trump was not demanding to create those votes, he wanted those votes to be found. Also, the case was just dropped due to the corruption of Fani. Oh this did not age well. Also, this kid talks about Trump's comments on the 2020 election. Democrats for years talked about Russia collusion of the 2016 election and had a full investigation that led to nothing. So there is that. As for Jan 6th, that was not even a working Gallow, and Trump told people to leave via Twitter which was exposed when Musk bought Twitter and brought back Trump's account. And this kid is bordering slandering saying Trump agreed with the comments about Pence.
Everything on Trump was a witch hunt. That is why Jack Smith got nothing and now has dropped the case. Fani had nothing and now got the boot. The one case they got Trump on was in NY which was so pathetic that no one took his felonies seriously and his sentencings got delayed to the point he is not going to even face jail time. For over 8 years the liberal elites have been going after Trump and the results is that he won the popular vote in 2024 along with the House and the Senate. At some point the liberal elites need to look themselves in the mirror and realize they are the ones that are wrong.
I agree, the information is out there. This kid is letting his bias get in the way of him seeing it. As for scriptures, a big change Trump did with the GOP is that it is no longer the ultra-religion party. It is a party now for the party and not letting their religion to get in the way.
15. The reason why Trump won is because people saw through the BS of the liberal elites. They were lied to by the liberal elites for years. We heard that Trump was Hitler, his supporters are nazis, that Trump was going to ban abortion, take away social security, was a threat to democracy, etc. He was called a threat to democracy while there was push to take him off ballots, you had the political charges, you had the raid of his home, etc. People saw through that and supported Trump.
Trump is also from from corrupt, he is for the people. I can get into great detail on that but I will keep it short; when has Trump ever ridiculed Biden, Harris or Clinton voters as a whole? Never.
16. Nope, won't support this bias individual.
17. Outro, this guy has major TDS.
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@jaycorbin you don't have to believe me but we are a global company with over 160,000 employees. We are top 100 in Forbes 400, and we are one of the largest scientific companies in the world. As I said, the CEO does not have a science background, that is because we also employ lawyers, marketing, etc. My role is that of a scientist. The leader of the commercial team plays the role of strategy, what direction we should take. For example, with Trump now there are talks of targeting the oil and gas industry more. That is their job.
But again, you don't have to believe me. My point is that even though I work in one of the largest scientific companies in the world, we hire a lot more than scientists.
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@rogermorris8737 it is not that simple. To start, a tax on the rich means they pass it on to the middle and lower class. So yes, a 10% increase on the tax on the rich means a 10% increase on the middle and lower class. People on the right have been, correctly, calling that for years. Or if there is no increase in prices, it would mean less investment, less jobs, less growth, etc.
On tariffs it is a trade tactic to get other nations to bring prices down or companies bring jobs back to the US. It worked out well in Trump's first term when we saw an increase in steel production in the US. Also, Trump, like he did in his first term, offset his tariffs then with income tax cuts and corporate tax cuts. So it is not a one shot thing. There is more to it. Fun fact, we used to be funding mainly on tariffs in the US as we had no federal income tax and we did fine.
Trump knows what he is doing. We had a term of him already and under him prices were lower, inflation was low, wage growth was high, etc. People could afford to pay bills and even homes as shown by the increase in homeownership rate of 5% which fell 6% 12 years prior before Trump. This idea he is going to harm the economy now or has no clue what he is doing is asinine. Heck, he had a Japanese company say they will invest $100 billion in the US. Investors have faith in the US economy now. The liberal elites don't but investors do.
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@Amburrrr23 that is not true. If you ask women their answers vary, but around 1/4 support a ban and around half support either a ban or some restrictions. Also, in the end of the day it doesn't matter what people want, abortion is not a right, period. Nowhere in the constitution it is listed as a right. Thus it becomes a state issue. And as such the states, and ultimately the people decide. If abortion being legal is so important and so popular it will reflect via that. And over the past two years it has. Again, people are not seeing a change in abortions in this nation. States that want restrictions that is what the people of that state want, including women. You can point to one or two women in a certain state and say "see, those women oppose abortion laws". But they do not represent the norm of that state. Also, in all walks of life you have to travel a times to get something. I had to move twice in my life to different states. Once for grad school and once for a job. Those are life changing decisions. You saying you cannot simply travel for a week or two to get a medical procedure is a burden on you is rather sad on your part.
Also, I am talking about it because I am trying to explain to you that you are freaking out over an issue that is not a big issue overall. That you rather destroy an economy over the abortion issue when if Trump wins there would be zero changes on abortion as it stands. In fact, I will ask this. Why didn't Obama and the democrats pass the Freedom of Choice act in 2007 when they had completely control? Why didn't they codify Roe as federal law?
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He is not wrong. The problem with the min. wage is that it dictates how much is paid per hour, not per week. Also, it is a grossly oversimplified solution to a complex issue. Business owners are smart, they will find a way. If you raise the min. wage, a one part solution, they will go through many options to counter. They can be reduce staff, cut hours, and raise prices.
As for the market, yes, that dictates prices. My employer pays me $120,000 a year with benefits. Why don't they pay less? And if you increase the min. wage that person you talk about with no negotiating power will end up receiving zero and they simply won't be hired. For that person to have negotiating power they typically need some sort of work history. So starting off at a low wage is just that. Overtime they prove their value and move up.
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@timthompson8297 read this from Cornell Law
"A "gag order" is the term for when a judge prohibits the attorneys, parties, or witnesses in a pending lawsuit or criminal prosecution from talking about the case to the public. However, a court will scrutinize any gag order under the right of free expression, protected by the First Amendment, and applies a heavy presumption against its constitutional validity, as with any prior restraint. See Carroll v. Princess Anne. In Nebraska Press Ass’n v. Stuart, the U.S. Supreme Court considered the following factors in analyzing the constitutionality of a gag order: “(a) the nature and extent of pretrial news coverage; (b) whether other measures would be likely to mitigate the effects of unrestrained pretrial publicity; and (c) how effectively a restraining order would operate to prevent the threatened danger [of an unfair trial for defendant].” In that case, however, the Court found that a lower court’s gag order was justified because publicity of alleged shocking crimes would be widespread and would likely reach a jury, impairing the defendant’s right to a fair trial. "
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@guypanton8341 "There’s an abundance of data and statistical analyses about the economy. And a lot of it could be used to calculate an adequate minimum wage."
And what will that be? What will you base that off of? You are giving vague answers. As, is, when you look at the min. wage worker they are not poor. Around 2% only work full time. Almost all are part time, short term workers. As I said, if you raise the min. wage and hours are cut, what have you gained? Nothing. Or if you raise the min. wage to say $15/hr, and someone, due to several reasons, cannot justify earning that much, will not get a job. That is the cold hard truth.
My employer pays me over $100,000 a year. Why don't they pay me the min. wage? Why doesn't my big greedy employer pay me the min. wage?
The reality is that there are zero benefits of the min. wage. The market will always correct itself in the end.
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@jakemccoy wow, so much wrong in your comment. To start, he never said prices will go down immediately. He admitted that would be hard as prices hardly drop, especially after record high inflation. What will happen under Trump is that inflation will be low and wages will go up like last time under him. As for the plane crash Trump had nothing to do with that. That appears to be pilot error. But with that, did you blame Biden on the train derailment in Ohio? And no, he is not threatening military invasion of any kind.
As for education funding, over 90% is state and local, not federal. Trump has no say in that. The federal department of education did not exist until the late 70s, it needs to go away. As for cancer research, we have been researching it for decades and still no cure. And what is wrong with what he is doing with USAID? Don't you support transparency? There is a lot of waste going on.
And how does the right want to blow up the Constitution? Biden was overriding the Constitution often. Also, all these federal programs the left supports, like USAID, are not mentioned in the Constitution. So should they even exist? And Trump is very intelligent. You don't get in his position his entire life with all the challenges he has faced unless you are intelligent. Look at his entire campaign. Democrats tried to take him off the ballot, they went after him with 4 different court cases and ended up with nothing. Who do you think is smart? Jack Smith? Wow, his cases sure went far. Do you think Harris is smart? She was a completely failure outside of CA politics. And how is Trump a failed businessman?
Trump is leading this nation on a better path. We are healing after years of destruction from the left. After the Obama years and Biden years and the democrats purposely destroying the nation and society during the Trump years. People knew what they voted for in Trump and people are happy with what he is doing.
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@reasonsreasonably still here.
To start, I never say Biden or Trump are too old. If you can do the job then you can do it. In the NFL being in your thirties is considered old, but many players still play in that age.
Next, I never say Trump does not gaffe. You can dig and find them which is not hard considering how many speeches he gives. Just like I can take my time to look for a celebrity in my city if I look hard enough. I live in Houston, we have a lot of them. Heck, the other day I saw Brian Cushing. I met Mike Bishop here. It helps living in the 4 largest city in the US that has 3 major sports franchises.
It is the same with Trump and his gaffes, he speaks so much you will find some. You can do that with Obama. Remember the 57 states comments he made? Or saying Austrian is a language?
With Biden, though, it is constant. Go back to videos as recent as him being VP and hear him speak. He sounds great. Now listen to Biden. He sounds slow, mumbles, has one gaffe after another. He is looking for dead people in the crowd. He makes a claim that he took a photo with someone then later said that they were in another state. Along with that you have the constant lies such as claiming he spoke to the man who created insulin. Or that he gave his uncle the purple heart when he was VP.
So sure, Trump has gaffes. Obama had gaffes. With Biden they are far worst and occur much more often. And remember, Trump gives way more rallies and press conferences than Biden does.
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@Brozius2512 is this going to be one of those comments you just copy and paste as if you are so smart? Ok. I will do the same to counter it
1. He never said it would go away. It was that it would not be a big deal. In May of 2020 many parts of the nation reopened and people went about their lives and were fine. In a rural town a buddy of mine said that for all intents and purposes covid does not exist there and they are fine.
As for deaths, the death count is overstated. You also have to consider how many died due to the lockdowns. Alcohol abuse spiked because of the lockdowns. So did obesity and diabetes. Along with that, Biden said he would eliminated the virus but saw the highest case rate.
2. He never said that. Also, golfing is a game where people do meet and make decisions. That is normal. He is not just out there golfing. And it is good not to meet with Fauci, Fauci is a hack who has never worked on a patient in his life and was completely wrong on covid. Also, Biden has taken more vacation days than Trump.
3. Every president since Clinton has said they would do healthcare reform. It is not easy. Even with Obamacare it was a challenge despite him having the house and the Senate.
4. Trump wanted a tax cut on the middle and lower class to be permanent. To get that you need 60 votes in the Senate. Zero democrats voted for the tax cuts on the middle and lower class. As for the rich, they pay the most taxes to begin with. 47% of the nation get money from the government as opposed to paying taxes.
5. They did. That is why wages went up along with labor participation rate going up and inflation was down
6. The economy was strong. Homeownership rate rose. Wages went up. Inflation was down. Unemployment only went up because businesses were shut down, mainly by democrats. Democrats did that to destroy the economy and try to make Trump look bad. As a result people have now left those democrat ran states.
7. He did not cut SS, medicare and medicaid. Besides, that is the largest portion of the federal budget
8. He has been the voice of the American worker. Since 1983 only two times did union membership rate go up. In 2006 under Bush and in 2019 under Trump. And what workers' rights did he strip?
9. Wages did go up. According to the Atlanta Federal Reserve wages were going up at a rate of around 2% under Obama. Under Trump it was over 3%. Under Biden wage growth has not caught up with inflation and now wage growth is dropping under Biden.
10. Uh, anyone who can get a test did get one. We gave out too many tests.
11. There was evidence it did cure from covid. Fauci even said that. In healthcare, when people are in desperate need for care they will try anything that has potential. That is normal. When nothing else is working they will try something experimental out that has potential.
12. Under Trump the deficit as a percent of GDP was around 4%. Under Obama's first 3 years it was over 5%. Under Biden it was over 5%. The deficit rose faster under Obama and Biden.
13. He did hire good people. It is common for roles like that to have high turnover rate as those are people who are looking to grow their skills and expand. That as opposed to begin a career bureaucrat like Fauci or being a career politician like Biden
14. Drug prices have always been high. Trump did not make the covid vaccine mandatory basically giving big pharma free money, democrats did that
15. This has been the trend for years. Under Trump that rate slowed down where in.
16. Trump wanted to do another stimulus check but Pelosi said no. Remember, congress controls the purse. After Biden became president then another stimulus was given out. Blame Pelosi.
17. HE did drain the swamp. He was removing corrupt, career government workers. He was reducing the powers of the federal agencies and gave us 3 justices that are now reducing powers of the federal government by reviewing the Chevron case and blocking the covid vaccine mandate.
18. He said he wanted to repeal the ACA and replace it. His replacement would have protected people
19. I can agree on this one, saying Mexico would pay for it was a bit foolish. Hey, you got one.
20. He did. Look at the Abrahams Accord. Under Biden we now see another war
21. So Trump did not arrest his political opponent? Oh the horror. Also, you can use your personal emails and phones, you just can't send sensitive documents via them. I do it on my work computer.
22. A government shut down is fine. If you are that dependent on the government where a shut down ruined your life you are a sad person. When the shut down happened guess what I did? I went to work, I went to class, I did what I was always doing. Also, his white house was fine. Under Biden we have people dancing topless in the yard.
23. The border was more secured under Trump. No need for DACA when people are not entering
24. Don't recall this promise. Now you are making things up.
25. Under Trump there were two years when N Korea did not launch any missiles. N Korea was behaving. Under Biden they have launched more missiles. So yes, Trump kept this promise.
26. He made zero dollars off of his businesses while in office.
27. He did keep jobs here in the US. Under Trump there were over 500,000 new manufacturing jobs created with over 264,000 jobs added in 2018.
28. Don't blame Trump for opioid. Besides, after covid you guys have zero room to talk about addiction and health.
29. Who cares
30. He did get us out of the Iran Deal and guess what, we are not on the brink of war with Iran. We are with other nations because of Biden. Remember, Trump did not get us involved in any new wars
31. That takes an act of congress. I also don't remember him promising that
32. We have been in a trade war with China prior to Trump. Trump alleviated it growing our economy and China was not escalating threats with Taiwan like they are now under Biden
33. Tuition has been rising for years. What can Trump do about that? He increased funding for HBCU and increased funding for federal grants like the Pell Grant.
34. Actually that is not true. In 2016 according to FRED the percent change in steel worker dropped 7%. Under Trump it grew in 2018 by 1.6% and by 3.8% in 2019.
35. The economy did get better as we saw with increase in homeownership rates and wage growth. And as I just pointed out (thanks for pointing this out for me), increases in steel workers.
36. Pulling out of the climate agreement was smart. It is a worthless agreement.
37. Or maybe because it is not worth his time.
38. As we saw with Biden pulling out was not wise. It led to death and now terrorists have our weapons and are starting wars again.
39. Uh, under Trump Russia did not invade Ukraine. There were two years where N Korea did not launch any missiles. China was not escalating tensions with Taiwan. He put those dictators in their place. That as opposed to now where they are laughing at Biden and starting wars.
40. He was the voice for the common people. When has Trump ever ridiculed and criticize a Clinton or Biden voter? Never. Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables. Biden called them dangerous. Trump canceled all the white house correspondent dinners when Biden brought them back and they were laughing at jokes about inflation. Because inflation is so funny. Trump gave inspiring speeches to raise moral after a tragedy. Biden jokes about how he almost lost his Corvette in a small kitchen fire while 100s of people were still missing.
So yeah, he was the voice for the people.
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@eddieokelly7027 From Cornell Law
"A "gag order" is the term for when a judge prohibits the attorneys, parties, or witnesses in a pending lawsuit or criminal prosecution from talking about the case to the public. However, a court will scrutinize any gag order under the right of free expression, protected by the First Amendment, and applies a heavy presumption against its constitutional validity, as with any prior restraint. See Carroll v. Princess Anne. In Nebraska Press Ass’n v. Stuart, the U.S. Supreme Court considered the following factors in analyzing the constitutionality of a gag order: “(a) the nature and extent of pretrial news coverage; (b) whether other measures would be likely to mitigate the effects of unrestrained pretrial publicity; and (c) how effectively a restraining order would operate to prevent the threatened danger [of an unfair trial for defendant].” In that case, however, the Court found that a lower court’s gag order was justified because publicity of alleged shocking crimes would be widespread and would likely reach a jury, impairing the defendant’s right to a fair trial. "
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Because both options are bad. Biden is not fit to be president. Even if you think he did a good job in his first term you are now seeing an old man who can hardly walk off stage, who admits that after 4 pm he needs to sleep, can't speak for more than 10 minutes where Trump just gave a 90 minute speech. World leaders see this and they will take advantage of it harming us and the world.
But if you replace Biden, with who? Harris is not popular, no one likes her. Ok, so if you replace the entire ticket completely you will make the democrat voters mad. To start, they will say "we did not vote for this guy" . To add on it, say you pick Newsom, well you will have voters in Michigan saying "why not Whitmer" or people in PA saying "why not Shapiro". And independents in AZ and NV that moved out of CA because they hate Newsom will come out and vote. Or if you pick Whitmer, people in PA will say "Why not Shapiro". They may gain MI, but they lose PA.
This is a mess on all ends. Democrats went too extreme on this. Hopefully this changes the democrat party to stop being so extreme.
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@seymourbutts4654 The Roe v Wade ruling was incorrect. Point to me where in the Constitution was abortion a right? It isn't. The Roe v Wade ruling contradicted the Washington v Glucksberg ruling (look it up). Thus, Roe was correctly overturned giving the abortion issue back to the states.
"The doctors of the women in question stated it was nonviable pregnancy that could have harmed her or possibly killed her"
It was not going to kill her, that is why the judge made the correct ruling. In fact, there was no argument made by her and her lawyer that it was going to kill her. I live in TX and followed the case closely.
"Lastly comparing a nonvialbe pregancy to speeding or drunk driving makes absolutely no sense to me and behaving like a drunken fool driving down main street has nothing to do with freedom."
Why not? Your argument is "freedom". You want women to have the freedom to kill a living thing. Why can't I have the freedom to drive drunk? At what point do you support limiting freedom? I will tell you my answer to that question. It is complex. That is why we leave issues like drunk driving, abortion, etc. to the states as there are many answer. And the answers strongly depend on people's culture, opinions, faith, beliefs, etc.
You may feel abortion is fine, and you may live in a state like CA that allows it. The people of TX feel it is not fine and thus have more restrictions on it. If you don't live in TX, don't vote there, don't pay taxes there, then it is none of your business. I don't live in CA so I really don't have a say in what goes on there. I can give an opinion, but I will never use federal force to tell those people what to do.
Think of the flip side. Would you support a federal ban on abortion?
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@seymourbutts4654 here is what you are missing, with state rights states, based on what their citizens want, pass laws to dictate how their citizens live. Mainly, what laws are in place align with the citizens there. The citizens of TX, for the most part, agree with the TX abortion law. Same with the citizens of CA an their abortion law. Whatever their reasons varies, and on both sides they are legit.
Your stance is to tell the people of TX they are "wrong and evil" and that they need to obey your idea of abortion despite their beliefs or culture or ideas. You stance is that of fascism. On the flip side if there was a federal abortion ban I bet you will be crying bloody murder.
My stance is this, I oppose both. I oppose a federal abortion ban along with making abortion legal widespread. I want the states, and ultimately the people to decide because bottom line there is no right to an abortion. If the people of CA want to have easy access to abortion then so be it. I am not going to stop them in any way as I do not live there, I do not vote there, I do not pay taxes there. I expect the people of CA to do the same when it comes to TX.
BTW, I bet if I were to tell you my complete stance on abortion you will be shocked. I bet you think I completely oppose abortion.
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@MapleTreeatdawn which economists? I hear phrases like this often. Phrase such as "many economists", or "studies say" or "experts say" but nothing is provided by people making such claims. So I am highly skeptical right off of the bat.
In the current tax model those making around $50,000 a year are already paying around $9000 a year in federal income taxes. And you also have to include payroll taxes along with local and state taxes.
Sales tax will be lower to me because I am able to build a savings. Also, with a consumption tax it is on consumption, sales. Not rent or mortgages. The point of a sales tax is to get foreigners and tourists to pay taxes while here. A good portion of a person's income go into housings.
So say, on the low end, 1/4 of that person's income goes to housing. that is $12,500 a year. So going off of your numbers that is $37,500 being taxes. So at 20% that is around $7000, currently lower. Also, there will be no payroll taxes as well.
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@Jcewazhere you bring up "greedflation", which is not even an economic term. There are several flaws there. To start, are you saying that all businesses conspire to all raise prices and not one decided to keep prices low in order to get more business? Next, This is happening under Biden. Why didn't it happen under Trump? But beyond all of that, there are so many moving parts to the economy. Who is being greedy? I recently bought a jar of pickles from the store, it was $4. Was it $4 because the store was pricing it at that high of a rate when they can sell it for less? Or was it because the company that produces the pickles are being greedy? Or is it the company that makes the jars? Or is it the company that distributes them? Just think of all the moving parts that goes into making a simple jar of pickles. Now expand that to all goods and services in the market. It is not as simple as "oh they are being greedy".
As for how Biden caused inflation, well one, threatening people's jobs with the vaccine mandate did not help. Many people retired early or left certain jobs to avoid the vaccine. Next, having massive spending bills like the inflation reduction act and the infrastructure bill that produced nothing did not help. Investing government funds in a company like Proterra that went bankrupt is not good. Being a threat to the oil companies worldwide is not good. Being weak and allowing wars to start is not good. The list goes on. Another is allowing many immigrants in this nation. By the very simple economic factor of supply and demand that will lead to higher rent. When you have more people coming into the nation and don't have an increasing in living quarters rent will go up, period.
Yes, under Clinton the economy was strong. That was because Clinton had actual leadership experience by being a governor in the past. Biden has never been in a leadership position, neither has Harris. Neither did Obama. Clinton knew how to work with the other side and worked well with Newt and the republican congress to progress our nation. Obama had no leadership experience and it showed with his constant division and refusal to work with the other side. You see it with Biden as well.
The rest of what you said I already covered in another comment, but I will copy and paste it here for saving time and so others can see
In 2019 the economy was great. I heard no talks of it being bad. It was so strong that the democrats had to shut it down in 2020 in order to beat Trump in the election. Obama's economy was stagnant at best. As for covid, how did Trump mismanaged it? He did all he could do. The democrats were the ones that kept pushing the lockdowns. That is why states ran by democrat governors that kept pushing the lockdowns reached their pre-covid employment numbers later. For example, Florida, a state the opened up early reached their pre-covid total nonfarm employment numbers by September of 2021. Michigan did not reach it until December of 2022. This is according to FRED stats. Other states
Texas: November of 2021
Georgia: July 2021 (first state to open back up)
California: April 2022
Minnesota (a state ran by Tim Walz): December of 2022
See a trend? Also for covid deaths, every nation reported covid deaths differently. You really can't compared. Syria had a death rate of 163 per million. Chad had a death rate of 11 per million. Are those nations whose model you want to copy anytime soon?
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@brassbuckles sigh.....wow. This is a problem with the left. You feel you need a formal education to be "educated". This is why on the extreme case you have leftists feeling college education should be free as it "educates" the population which is simply not true. Many things in life you can learn on your own or without college. In reality college is not really an education but an investment you show employers. You show employers you are willing to invest in yourself to accomplish a long term goal.
I am a sports official. To do that you talk to another official, sigh up for your local high school association, pay some dues, take a test and go from there. No college is needed. I didn't take college courses in becoming an official, I signed up. I am now working at the college level. To do that I express interest and signed up for camps to get noticed by supervisors. But again, no college courses on officiating. No college degree on it. So this whole concept that being educated means being intelligent is simply false.
"This is probably why so many more educated people tend to lean left, since left-leaning policies usually are more helpful to the average person."
And I totally disagree with that. I feel the left have many great things to offer, but to me they are the most disconnected with reality and the average person. If you want me to break down why I can, but in comparing the left and the right the right is more connected with the average person. You are actually showing here yourself in your assumption of being educated and knowing the average person. Less than half adults have a college degree. But here you are basically smearing those without it by saying "educated people are more intelligent" which is not always the case.
"Higher education shouldn't be elitist; it should be open to all who want to continue their education. It should be considered a right, not a privilege. Truck drivers and construction workers should be 100% entitled to get a university degree or even a doctorate, regardless whether they intend to use it, if that's something they want to pursue."
And here you go totally not knowing the true value of a college degree. The value is that you show employers you are willing to invest time and money into yourself to accomplish a long term goal. Most you learn in college you can learn on your own. I don't need a degree in history to learn history. I can buy the books professors recommend and read them myself. Take a music degree, how many musicians went to college to study music? Taylor Swift does not have a college degree.
The fact you feel you need an institution to educate you makes me question your intelligence, not to be rude. But that is the reality.
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To start, the republicans did not kill the border bill. They had their version that democrats voted against. Also, Biden does not need a bill, he can enforce the laws already on the books.
Next, what will republicans do? Well, get out of the way. That is what Trump did. Our country is most successful when you have limited federal government, when you have decentralized government and give more powers to the states and people. Take education which you brought up. You do know that 92% of funding for public education is state and local? And that states control the standards of public education? Tell me, what was Trump's education standards? You can't say. In the past you had common core with Obama, No Child Left Behind with Bush, Goals 2000 with Clinton, what did Trump have? Really nothing. He left it up to the states. Get out of the way and let people do their job. That is the best route and that is what Trump wants.
I know people on the left need their hand held for everything, which is sad. But the best route that Trump wants to do is get the federal government out of the way and let the people live their life. That is why under him people's lives improved, why the economy was strong. Along with that it allowed the federal government to do one of the two jobs it was meant to do, that is deal with foreign affairs. Under Trump we had no new wars. Instead of trying to micromanage what little Johnny was learning in schools Trump focused on international relations and it was leading to a more peaceful world and a stronger border.
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What you wrote is correct. To me there are two groups here
1. The politicians and elites on the left that will hold fundraising events with celebrities charging thousands for tickets while also claiming to be for the working American
2. The voters who mainly live in urban areas and due to the struggles of travel they hardly interact with society outside their bubble and thus their world view is based on what those elites tell them on TV or on the internet
You are correct, I am a Trump voter and I agree with many issue on the right. Trump is the first president to enter the white house supporting gay marriage. When he ran he did not run on social issues like race, sexism, abortion, gay marriage, etc. He ran on corruption, foreign relations and a strong economy. It is the left that keeps brining up BLM, political correctness, LBGT, etc. The liberal elites are telling their voters that Trump and his supporters are a bunch of hateful and violent racists, homophobic, sexist bigots, when we aren't. The irony is that I was called a racist when, where I live as a white person, I am actually the minority and I am fine with it.
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@dash9087-d9d "Once any study or large group of professionals says something they don't agree with, they claim the entire association is corrupt. Why do you think they rally against Colleges, scientists, doctors, etc.? Because they largely say the opposite of what they want to hear"
I am a scientist myself with a PhD in physical chemistry that, when I retire early I want to be a college lecturer.
Here is a flaw in what you are saying. To start, there is no set agreement on gender affirming care. Some nations are banning it after trying it. It is a complex situation which is why it is being studied still to this day. Next, many of the studies out there most people do not have access to as most peer reviewed journals have a pay wall, or you need to either be a part of a university or organization to obtain it. And even if you do have access, most will not be able to understand it.
People making claims like you are typically give a briefing on a study misrepresenting it or make vague claims without going into the details on any methods being done, the full conclusion, etc.
Healthcare is always evolving and we know very little to begin with, especially mental health care. That is why we have more than 5 SSRIs for depression. And even at that there are questions if someone who is depressed needs an SSRI.
The low standards you are presenting is a reason why suicide rates are still high in these cases, that even with care it is still high. You are oversimplifying a complex issue.
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@T800-theRealOne On October 2, 2019, Harris called for gun confiscation during an MSNBC “gun safety forum.” During the event, Harris had the following exchange with MSNBC anchor Craig Melvin.
Melvin: As you know, the ‘94 assault weapons ban, it didn’t apply to weapons that were purchased before 1994. What would you do about the millions, specifically assault weapons, that are already in circulation? What do you do about those?”
Harris: Well, there are approximately 5 million, to your point Craig. We have to have a buyback program and I support a mandatory buyback program. It’s got to be smart, we got to do it the right way, but there are 5 million at least some estimate as many as 10 million and we’re going to have to have smart public policy that’s about taking those off the streets.
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@kuruptzZz he condemned early on and often. People turned around and misquoted him misrepresenting what he said. Read the The American Presidency Project from UC Santa Barbara titled
"Trump Campaign Press Release - FACT CHECK: After Charlottesville, President Trump Specifically and "Totally" Condemned "Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists""
CNN Jake Tapper even defended Trump. People just quoted his "very fine people, on both sides" part of his press conference. What he said was
"You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. ... I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. ... So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."
Trump did not play this divisive game of painting one side as all being evil. That is what the media and many of the elites hated about him. He was speaking the truth that yes, there were bad people. But you had very good people as well. They may disagree but that does not make them bad people.
Also, why did Richard Spencer support Biden? You said all white supremacist support Trump. And I am a lost cause?
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That is on the global elites, especially the liberal elites. Many people voted for Trump because they became sick of the elites talking down to us and being divisive. You have Obama doing the "you didn't build that" speech and playing the race card. You have Romney saying he does not have to care about the 47% who pay no federal taxes. You have Clinton calling Trump supporters a group of deplorables. You have Biden calling Trump supporters dangerous.
Listen to Trump, he does not attack or criticize Biden supporters. He criticizes Biden, Clinton and other members of the elites. He does not have divisive rhetoric. Take the Ukraine war, when pressed on it on if he will support Ukraine he said he wanted people to stop dying. He was not taking side which is a divisive measure the elites do.
Take Charlottesville, he condemned white supremacy but said what was correct, there were fine people on both sides. There were bad people on both sides, but there were fine people as well. That is a uniting message of yes, people had different opinions, but they were not violent nor bad people. The elites twisted his words claiming he was calling white supremacist fine people. He was not.
That is why the elites were so scared of Trump, he went after them and his approach in leading this nation was improving it for the people. Too bad people like you worship the liberal elites without question.
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@OldManYellsAtClouds according to the US census that states with the fastest growing populations are TX, FL, SC, ID, Mt, and SD.
States there were losing people include IL, LA, CA, NY, WV, OH, MI, PA to list a few.
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