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Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "Covid vaccine complications dwarfed by virus risks - BBC News" video.
Blood for Dracula If it is a mass genocide program they're doing a terrible job.
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@Reactivate100 No, they aren't. Heart inflammation and blood clots aren't even from the same type of vaccines, but covid causes all of them, and at a minimum 10 times more often than the vaxes. The organ damage issues are at a rate of 7% with the virus, but could you imagine the outrage if Pfizer or AZ caused organ damage at even a hundredth as often? In fact, heart inflammation is so common in covid cases that they find it in 60% of autopsies and 30% of athletes. Oh, and they kill the animals right after they finish the study, so of course all the ferrets died, they culled them. That's how science works.
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Blood clots, heart inflammation and permanent organ damage are all symptoms of covid. In fact blood clots happen in covid patients 39 times more than they do in AZ vaccine recipients. AZ also doesn't cause heart inflammation.
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@bronktug2446 Bit then you get 2 potential outcomes. 1. You can't use those drugs on those groups. 2. We get a repeat of thalidomide. These trials exist for a reason, and keeping back a potentially lifesaving drug could do more harm than good. Ethically there is no reason to hold back something that could help millions from undergoing trials. If you want to look into the potential cardiovascular or neurological issues then do that, although things like myocarditis and pericarditis are not only always a possible complications after literally any kind of viral infection or vaccine, they are also hundreds of times more common in covid patients than vaccine recipients.
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@happydog4862 Or at all. For example: Big Muff doesn't beat his wife.....yet. Idiot.
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@slackdee The fact you're calling it gene therapy is exactly why you're wrong. And yes, it qualifies as a vaccine.
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@nomoremrniceguy8106 Organ damage, not failure, and the virus absolutely does cause organ damage 7% of the time.
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@Lee Davies 1. Anecdotal example that has no bearing on overall stats. 2. Israel numbers are actually 60% vaccinated in hospital, and while previously the vast majority were over 60, the numbers are now closer to 50:50. This comes after over 60s, the most vulnerable group, are 92% vaccinated. They lowered their own hospitalization rates substantially. 3. Israel is also 60% vaccinated, so the hospitalization rate is at worst on par with the unvaxed. In truth it's far better than that due to the most effected group. 4. Your viral load example is based on vaccinated people with the delta strain when compared to the alpha strain. It is not a direct comparison. 5. Your 13x number is just a lie. I know people who have caught covid more than once. Their natural immunity was no help whatsoever. Get your facts right.
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@happydog4862 Apparently you haven't followed closely as blood clots are absolutely a symptom of covid. There is a study posted by the name of: "Risk of thrombocytopenia and thromboembolism after covid-19 vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 positive testing: self-controlled case series study" They reviewed 29 million examples and found that the risk is far lower from vaccines than from covid.
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@bronktug2446 It's almost like the FDA practices have changed in the last 60 years. In fact this exact example was used to tighten regulations. That's why the new vaccines, and everything else for that matter, has been tested on pregnant women and children of specific age groups before being released to said groups. Those trials started in February.
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@Ivan Mektyn Or just make a better disease. What a bunch of noobs.
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Blood for Dracula Again, you're thinking of covid.
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@Reactivate100 "I follow real scientists not political scientists." So you're vaccinated. Oh good.
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@Lee Davies I gave you the real numbers. If you want to make thing up then post sources.
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Every lockdown we've done has sharply reversed the steep climbing infection numbers. So yes, 2 weeks to flatten the curve, then when we had another surge we needed another 2 weeks. It's not "2 weeks to stop covid forever" but 2 weeks to reduce the current number of infections per day to a reasonable level that hospitals can manage.
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@ibexdnb2879 in your dreams sunshine
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@G.Family. mRNA vaccines are fine if you've had the virus, but AZ would be kinds useless early on.
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@happydog4862 Your argument is as weak as your skull.
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@ham burges True. Clots around 30 times more common in covid than the jab.
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10% of those survivors are long-haulers, and 70% of those have organ damage. 25% of long-haulers have multiple organ damage. But sure, they lived.
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@chonnerone2964 Or dead.
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@stequality Weird way to say "ineffective". They aren't even at 0.1% of the population. Lame virus is lame.
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@Battle_catosaur You make an account just to tell me that?
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