Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "NBC News"
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"This is one part of U.S. policy where I side with republicans even though I'm a Democrat"
Understandable, and these sorts of issues really drive single issue independents.
"The way I see it, we have become the x on the map for a lot of foreigners"
That's literally always been the case.
"and most of them, like the Haitians are fleeing disastrously ran countries"
Also always been true. The Irish ran from the potato famine, the Jews ran from the holocaust and many many more examples.
"my fear is that they will bring that mess here"
Sure, I get that. The Italians brought mobs to New York. Things like this are an inevitability when allowing a lot of migrants in. The thing to take into account is that the vast majority of the people being let in have nothing to do with any of that. Why assume the worst and ban potential sources of labour? Immigrants are a net gain for the economy after all.
"Covid disrupted so much in this country and most of it has yet to get back to normal... so what do we do when enough of them show up that things get strained or crowded here?"
I would argue that the real issues with covid are from the locals not vaccinating and wearing masks. Green card applicants are required to vaccinate starting today. That's a good step in the right direction.
"We already live in a country that seems like it's in short supply of mercy"
So your plan is to provide even less mercy?
"so do we really have the resources to be the world's food bank?"
We aren't. Again, immigrants are a net gain. Asylum seekers as well pay in more than out.
"I'm a no on this one. Go back to your own countries, go fight your own wars, go fix your nation's mess and stop crawling to our doorstep begging for a hand out."
It's really not their fault though. In fact, a lot of the time the US is the reason they're coming here in the first place. How many governments has the US manipulated and sanctioned based on them being too socialist? In fact the top 3 countries that send immigrant caravans to the US are El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
El Salvador's - In the 70s the US funded the local Salvadoran military government to end a civil war the way they wanted. Their involvement of arming a literal military dictatorship against locals caused over 70K deaths, and displaced over 1 million people, 500K of which because refugees.
Guatemala - The CIA in 1954 backed a coup and ousted the leader, leading to a 36 year civil war, lasting from 1962 to 1996. The war killed at least 140K people and 1.2 million people were displaces, with 200K of them over to other countries.
Honduras - For around 2 decades in the 80s and 90s the CIA supplied the Honduras government and their "death squad" with information of rising communist rebel movements. They also used this as a base of operations to train Salvadorans in the previously mentioned civil war.
Saying these people need to "Go back to your own countries, go fight your own wars, go fix your nation's mess and stop crawling to our doorstep begging for a hand out", when that exact issue is caused by the US actively funding the "mess", is a fundamentally broken ideal to hold. There is simply no good ethical, financial or political reason not to let in immigrants.
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@Garapetsa No, you said worst because you're pushing a bias narrative. The fallout from Katrina took years to get over, and FEMA failed the area dramatically as a result. For example:
After levees failed across New Orleans and water poured into the streets, disarray marked the response. With faint understanding of the city's topography, Brown and FEMA's top brass weren't aware of the magnitude of the flood. They dismissed reports from Marty Bahamonde, FEMA's only staffer on the ground, that the 17th Street Canal wall had broken and later that 80 percent of New Orleans was underwater. Brown told CNN that FEMA didn't know for three days that hundreds of people were trapped at the Convention Center with no food or water.
After rescues were well underway, FEMA turned away offers of personnel and supplies from the Department of Interior and denied a request from the state Wildlife & Fisheries agency for 300 rubber boats. It was slow to provide food, shelter, and supplies to first responders and stranded residents alike. Its leaders bickered with Gov. Kathleen Blanco and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin over who was in charge.
And when the response switched to recovery, there were the infamous FEMA trailers, those glorified recreation vans, hastily built and steeped in toxic resins, that populated yards and vacant lots for years after the storm.
They were only supposed to be in place for up to 18 months. The last one purportedly left New Orleans in February 2012, more than six years into the recovery. By then it was the wrong kind of icon: a symbol of FEMA's grinding, inept bureaucracy.
Comparing the current series of flash floods to KATRINA is just a joke. Doing so because the price of flood insurance has increased, which is obviously should have given the frequency and intensity of flooding in the region, is unbelievably idiotic at best, horrendously insensitive at worst.
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