Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "Breakthrough Covid Infections: What Is The Real Risk?" video.
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@robotron17
"approximately 100 million people have been fully V'd for an average of 5 months (far more if you include people receiving a single dose) Almost 3 million people die in an average year, so statistically, over 1 million of those V'd people have died"
Well yes, but actually no. The severely immunocompromised don't get vaccinated, such as late stage cancer and kidney failure type people. Their bodies don't have the immune response to actually process the vaccine, so they just don't get it.
"“If you look at the history of vaccines, you know that virtually all long-term adverse effects of a vaccine occur between 15 and 30 days after you get the dose – 45 days at the most", there should be 200k-300k reported deaths"
Well actually no. If you use that specific quote as your basis then the deaths would have to happen within that 45 day window, meaning instead of using a years worth of data to come out with you numbers you should actually be looking at the proportion of people who died within 45 days. that means your number is off, assuming we're looking at 3 million, by around 8-fold. They also only report suspected cases, which doesn't include a whole host of potential causes. They aren't going to submit the guy crushed by a vending machine to VAERS.
"Also, they dismiss every V death because the V likely kills you by exacerbating pre-existing conditions, so when you have that stroke, they just say "it was your time"."
Actually they review the coroner report, figure out based on how many people annually have strokes if there is an uptick in frequency and look at if there is any actual reason this could happen through the mechanisms of the vaccines. The idea they just say "it was your time" is utter lunacy.
"Of course, an all-cause mortality study of V vs. UnV would tell the true story, which is why THAT is not reported"
It's not reported because the FDA and CDC already do this, they just aren't prone to giving out personal medical records.
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@robotron17
There is a big difference between health immunocompromised and dying in a hospital bed from cancer. You know, the people really close to death. Also, quoting something that advocated for boosters while push an anti-vax angle is more than funny.
"I already adjusted for this."
No, you didn't. you just took 10% of 3 million and called it a day, ignore multiple other factors. For example when you say:
"Roughly 2m people in the over 65 group die every year. So 1M is a good ballpark for V'd deaths at this point. And of those 1M, roughly 300k should die in 45 days"
Wrong and wrong. Not only are your vaccination numbers for over 65s too low, amusingly, your 30% proportion isn't even close to accurate. The real number is more like 12% at best, which also ignores people dying before than can be vaxed, meaning they wouldn't count in the vaccination stats, and people at deaths door not being vaxed.
"The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of GUNSHOT WOUNDS!"
Colorado clarified that they draw a distinction between something being related and something being the cause. the related deaths don't go into the state stats.
State stats are also not VAERS making this even more irrelevant than it already was.
"They don't do this"
Yes, they do. I even quoted where they said they do exactly this. Your ignorance of government institutions is your own folly, not mine.
"They very clearly don't want accurate reporting of this. You're ULTRA naïve and just plain wrong to boot."
Projecting again I see.
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