Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "JUST IN: Biden Responds To Manchin Announcing He Won't Support Build Back Better" video.
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@johnbob95
"You don’t get to claim new jobs as Biden’s as the world is recovering from a global pandemic"
You've literally sat here saying we have to attribute inflation caused by massive spending to recover from the pandemic, mostly scheduled by the previous administration, but now you're saying we can't give Biden credit for job growths from the same pandemic. So which is it? Is the pandemic causing job fluctuations and inflation that have no bearing on who the president is, or are jobs and inflation both caused by direct actions by the president?
What's worse is you fail to acknowledge the fact that the deficit was far worse than it should have been when the pandemic hit because of the Trump tax cuts, and your entire outlook on a growing economy under Trump is shadowed by the increasing debt to make that growth possible. It was never sustainable, and the pandemic smashed the economic bullseye, making the rest of the dominoes fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
"the stock market is not at an all time high"
I gave you exact growth percentages. This year is the highest for the market ever. Not that it matters as that's true for almost every year, but the pandemic did push the market down for close to a year, only recovering recently, arguably from the new administration's push to reduce infections through vaccinations and masking. We've already seen that massive infections and deaths cause shutdowns, which cause economic shrinkage. The measures put in place lessen the effects of spikes, meaning we see a better economy overall.
"Both gas and oil prices are not falling, they’re increasing day to day."
Wrong. Oil prices have been dropping since mid-October, falling 16% in 2 months. Gas prices have followed suit, falling an average of 10.6 cents in the last 30 days.
"There is not a global oil shortage"
Yes there is. Production was struggling but demand rapidly increased. Some companies reduced production when oil went negative, causing the current prices. Other companies went under entirely.
"Biden cut off any chance of us being independent with oil."
Domestic oil production, just like the global market, dropped sharply a few months into the pandemic long before Biden was elected. Production has only been increasing since he took office. The difference is that demand sharply increased this year. Nothing he has done would reduce domestic production.
"He’s forced us to buy from other countries"
We've always bought oil from Canada, and in fact we refine a lot of it and sell gas globally. Low oil prices are actually really bad for the likes of Texas for example. The only time we didn't do this was when oil demand was heavily reduced.
"not to mention he dipped into the oil reserves barely and tried to claim he saved us even though he released enough oil to last three days"
That's actually a lot of oil though. When you're say 5% below the required oil production, 3 days worth of oil can last 2 months.
"I’m not sure you understand anything you’ve tried to lie about."
I'm not sure you understand anything at all.
"If you did some research you’d find out that quite literally nothing you stated is not only false, but it’s the complete opposite."
I agree, nothing I stated is false, and is in fact the complete opposite, which is true. Thanks for agreeing with me there champ.
Tell you what, how about you actually look into some of these issues rather than acting like a reactionary right-wing mouthpiece. Sound like a plan? Any more dumb comments like this and I'll know you're being this idiotic on purpose.
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@johnbob95
Jobs are going up. The numbers alone show that. Your inability to attribute success where it is due is your own downfall.
Wages going up is not a bad thing. It doesn't contribute to inflation, and in fact directly counteracts the effects.
The stock market is higher than before the shutdown.
Oil and gas are both down. Again, oil dropped 16% last month. Stop looking at 9 months ago when it has dropped in the last month.
Oil production has been higher than it was in January. Not sure where you're getting your BS numbers from.
The XL pipeline would have IMPORTED oil your cretin. In what universe would a pipeline that imports more oil make us more independent? He also didn't cut off the pipeline, it was never built, meaning nothing will have changed with import export numbers. Trade between us and Canada also has nothing to do with global prices.
The point I'm making in regards to Texas is how we export petroleum from there. They see big boosts at a time like this.
Global oil prices beg to differ, that's why they dropped, even when production continues to be lower than pre-pandemic levels and demand grows.
So Trump cut taxes, mostly for big businesses and the rich, to undo something Obama did? He doubled the deficit before the pandemic even hit for...what exactly?
Trump lost so many jobs he has literally the worst jobs history ever. He lost 4 million jobs. Thanks to Biden we're finally seeing levels return. These losses were due to numerous failures of his administration to appropriately react to the pandemic.
I'm not blaming the GOP for inflation, I'm pointing out that the vast majority of the spending during the pandemic was passed and approved by Republicans. You can talk about "highest inflation in current history" but you seem to be ignoring the mixture of international shipping holdups and massive spending that caused it.
You're such a clown and you're too stupid to see it. You've done nothing but flat out ignore stone cold facts, while presenting boldfaced lies. It's not hard to understand you, the hard part is reconciling your statements with reality. Get back to me when you have the ability to honestly argue a point rather than lying. You can't even understand what I'm saying, which is why you think I'm being contradictory. It's truly special to read your twisted worldview as it gives me a deeper insight into the propaganda machine that is the GQP.
Get stuffed John you clown
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@algheroman6476
"It will definitely make inflation much worst for everyone both short and long term."
Nah. Tax changes and a growing economy will offset this. The recent inflation was caused by over 6 trillion in spend in 2 years. As you stated, this bill wouldn't even equal that over 10 years, even at the worse estimates.
"The "human” infrastructure bill is a gigantic tax cut for millionaires and billionaires. There is a provision would lift the SALT cap from $10,000 to $80,000 on income tax deductions for state and local taxes (SALT). Benefiting some states and penalizing others that are more working class than rich."
That tax cut is miniscule for millionaires, but big for middle class and lower class families. It would also only lower taxes meaning those in lower tax states would not see tax increases.
"$80 billion in mandatory spending for the IRS to hire and empower 87,000 agents to go after working class people."
Incorrect. The IRS almost exclusively targets lower income people because they don't have the manpower to target higher income earners. These new agents would allow them to target higher profile earners.
"$3 billion for “tree equity.” WTF??"
Urban green spaces have massive positive impacts for both the mental and physical health of people living in dense areas.
"$15 million for older people who are “underserved” with gender identity issues."
Good. What's the problem?
"$25 million toward developing “anti-discrimination and bias training” for the health care sector. Making things more racists will never be helpful."
The bill agrees with you, which is why they are trying to REDUCE racism, discrimination and general bias. That's the point.
"$4 billion for “neighborhood access and equity grants”."
Nothing pandering about it. By reconnecting segregated neighbourhoods that continued to see separation during redlining, the US can further heal the racial divide. This can then end location based discrimination that effects people living in those, usually racially segregated communities.
"$7.5 billion for Biden’s “Civilian Climate Corps”"
So a grassroots plan to improve the environment on a national scale using small groups of local environmentalists spread throughout the nation? Sounds like a great plan with low cost. Act local, think global.
"$5 billion for environmental and “climate justice”"
Requiring polluting companies to clean up after themselves, and not leave entire communities poisoned, is not unreasonable.
"Give citizenship to over 2 million illegal aliens, bypassing the normal channels and disenfranchising all those that follow the law and became citizens legally"
You're referring to the 2 million DREAMers, who were all brought to the US when they were young and undocumented. They have lived here almost their entire lives, go to or went to US schools, and identify as Americans. Why are you punishing people who were brought here when they had no choice? You can attack them for not going through legal channels all you want, but they had no choice in the decision. DREAMers btw have all been in the US for at least 5 years, and anyone here legally can go for citizenship after 5 years anyway, so why not just let them go for it?
"Bigger, more inflated, and debt ridden government."
You're partially correct. Most of the plan is already paid for through tax changes that the plan would introduce, meaning we wouldn't see more debt. The debt we would see would be completely offset by future gains. If you only argument boils down to "the government would be bigger" all I can respond with is "so what?" Give me a reason the government being bigger is a bad thing based on size alone.
The truth is that all you have displayed here is that you simply dislike parts of the bill that would actually help people, communities and the environment. You have also skirted around the vast majority of the spending of the bill in favour of not even 10% of the total spend. Why ignore child tax credits, child care, healthcare, dental care, vision care and more so that you can point out that some old people with deep-seeded gender identity issues might get some help in the form of less than 0.0001% of the total bill? You even admit that what you pointed out was a drop in the bucket, but fail to address the meat of the bill.
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