Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "JUST IN: President Biden Responds To Cuba Protests, Comments On Ongoing Haiti Unrest" video.

@Zero_cool79 Maybe check your numbers. Capitalism has killed plenty as well.
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@emsbrelopez0711 "you make a decent point however those countries aren’t socialist they are strong capitalist countries with strong welfare systems" True. The real wording should be social democracies, which is really what we should strive to be. "a 1 bedroom apartment in Norway was well over 2000 dollars?" No, they average around the $1,500 range, which is some what expected given how compact they are. These are pretty comparable to California numbers. As you said wages are also very high, and on top of that healthcare, childcare and a bunch of other services are free. Despite the expenses Norway has practically zero poverty. Compare that to the US. "you see socialist counties like Venezuela Brazil and Portugal fail due to socialism" Well that's just not true at all. Venezuela for example was actually a shining example of what the economic factors of socialism can do to lift the people out of poverty. The government was wildly popular, and people were thriving compared to before. Their issues came from US economic sanctions and new leadership. If they had better international trading partners and a better system of government socialism would continue to be a success there, but corruption and mismanagement, that can happen in any nation, were their downfall. "If I paid you 100 dollars to mow my lawn then immediately took that 100 back and gave 50 to your friend who sat in the car while you did all the work because it was “fair” would you be a socialist for long?" What if you did all the work then I paid $90 to your boss and $10 to you? That's capitalism. "what if you had a 4.0 gpa in college and we took a point away to give a kid who didn’t work as hard and had a 1.8 gpa so his could be higher to make things “fair”" That's just silly. "what if the government owned all the land meaning the house you own wasn’t really yours" Do I get to live there rent and utility payment free for my entire life? "took away your freedom of speech religion and protest and violently oppressed any opposing point of views (North Korea)" North Korea is a dictatorship. Oppressing speech, religion and everything else has nothing to do with an economic system. In fact, calling North Korea socialism when the people have no control over anything is pretty ridiculous. "isn’t also funny how all these politicians from Capitals countries clamor for socialism yet never move away from said capitalist countries for socialist ones?" Which politicians. I've never heard a politician saying they want socialism, or are you now going back on your points about Norway not being socialist, because I absolutely want what they have. "Yet people who live in socialist countries are fighting tooth and nail for a democratic government" Why not have a democratically elected socialist government? "Mind you that the greatest economy in the history of the world (USA) is a capitalist country" Greatest by what measure? The largest? What does that say about the tens of millions of Americans in poverty? About the 530K Americans who go into financial ruin over their medical debts? "It’s not the government is very oppressive which is why Hong Kong wants nothing to do with them lol you want a visual representation of Capitalism vs Socialism?" Now you think China is socialist? Again, dictatorships are not socialist. Socialism is when the workers control the means of production. Workers can't control anything if they can't vote for who runs things. "Plus the failure of socialism was evident in the Cold War when the USSR had to put up a whole wall in Berlin simply cause people were defecting to the west." I'm sure it was nothing to do with the massive economic sanctions that caused the USSR to fall into poverty, must just be the socialism. "Yup now I know capitalism isn’t perfect by any means but I’d rather work the rest of my life to buy my bread than to wait in a bread line and just hope that there’s enough to feed me and my family." Unless you fall into massive debt and can no longer afford bread. Your argument works right up until people stop being able to afford things. So, something we can agree on, the US should implement more policies that make us closer to Norway in an effort to end poverty.
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@lanefunai4714 Was this before or after the night of long knives?
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@Zero_cool79 Funnily enough it's actually capitalism. By creating a system that fails to help those in poverty you are actively encouraging the deaths of the poor. The end result is millions of deaths year over year.
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@lanefunai4714 Well that's just silly. The night of long knives was specifically an event in the rise of the Nazi party where they killed all the socialists.
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@Zero_cool79 Well sure, where do you want to start? The American slave trade is a pretty solid example of capitalism turning people into slaves for profits. An estimated 13 millions slaves sold to the New World. Then there is the mass starvation of the great depression which was caused by a capitalist economic crash. Every single country in WWII was capitalist as well, which then went on to cause mass starvation in some countries. Vietnam and the killing of around 2.5 million Vietnamese in the name of capitalism. Hell, all of colonialism was just capitalists trying to make money. The East India Trading Company was a business with a larger economy than most countries and killed plenty. King Leopold murdering about 10 million in Congo. The modern slavery to get precious metals and jewels killing millions. Even in the US the lack of access to healthcare causes millions to go without regular health checkups leading to deaths.
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@Zero_cool79 It's almost as if it's an article about capitalism killing people not socialism. Crazy I know.
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@lanefunai4714 You can't really call yourself a capitalist until you've stood on the backs of those who put you where you are today, bleeding them of their labour for minimal pay and maximum profit.
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@lanefunai4714 Oh please, tell me how the North Atlantic slave trade was somehow socialist and definitely not the result of capitalism in its most extreme form.
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@santabracero3558 False equivocations like yours are why we can't have nice things.
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@ramongonzalez2112 The US has both more gun and more knife homicides than the UK per capita. NYC is far more dangerous than even London.
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It makes sense if you know what an authoritarian regime is and don't just think it means "governments I didn't vote for".
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@KidayaGaming Persecutions? Of who exactly?
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@KidayaGaming So you're saying that the Republican party is being persecuted in some way?
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@KidayaGaming Persecuted how?
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@KidayaGaming Like who? What are you on about?
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@mallariculp3551 Are you done with your little rant yet? If so then lets break it down: "how about “we’re going to knock on doors and question you on why you haven’t agreed to take the experimental shot”" If you're going to quote someone make it an actual quote. Also, why is free healthcare to your door a bad thing? This may help to get people who are severely disabled the medical care they need. "that is killing people because it’s poison?" Lol. What a joke. I'm sure the millions dead from covid will be grateful for your idiocy. "how about jailing people falsely and holding them for months without arraignment?" If you have examples that would be great. "how about requiring all children to enroll in schools where the government determines they will learn about CRT and socialist ideals?" Not teaching your children is child abuse. CTR is just another dog whistle in the long line of conservative nonsense attacking education. Did learning that the founding fathers owned slaves make you sad? As for socialist ideals, like what exactly? "how about a govt that decided for Americans that God is no longer appropriate to thank or pray to?" Pray to whoever you want, just don't make everyone else do it. "how about six CCP owned corporations that own all media in the US and control every bit of info we are allowed to hear" That's just silly. China doesn't control US media. "How about a govt that pass bills on acceptable pronouns (she, him, daughter, father, etc) and pushes gender identification on six year olds?" Which bill? The White House did this, but so what. Why are you against people being called what they want to be called? "How about a govt that sets up foundations for money laundering and profiteering?" cough Trump Foundation cough "We can talk about the atrocities they perpetrated against Donald Trump if you like??" You mean legal investigations. How dare they. How about he stops trying to break the law. "we can also discuss the unconstitutional censorship that big tech has perpetrated against the right to silence all opposing voices" Big tech has a right to censor people off their private platforms. The First Amendment is about government censorship, bit private businesses. They have also legally justified this to congress. It's not their fault all the liars are on the right. "we can also talk about the manipulation of the stock and housing markets" Regulating the market to stop it crashing again to stop another financial crisis is not manipulating the market. "created food shortages" Like? "chemtrails" Lol. They're called contrails. "climate control"" Because making the world a cleaner place is a bad thing? "any other known control by govt." Like those pesky laws that stop them putting antifreeze in kids medication? How dare they.
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@seanbrummfield448 Certainly not in coverage. The high quality of the healthcare for those that can afford it does give the US an edge, but healthcare payments are still the leading cause of bankruptcies in the US. Around 530K families a year.
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@doctorstrangelove9487 Not communism, socialism. People like to call them communist, but in communism everyone is paid the exact same wages. Cuba however has a minimum wage which even varies by job. There real issues are authoritarianism and global economic sanctions, not their economic system. As abaabaaba was saying, the main problem is that the US government makes a point of overthrowing, attacking and sanctioning any country with some sort of socialist movement. For example lots of people are quick to point out Venezuela as an example, however socialism there pulled the entire country out of poverty, and nobody wants to point out the sanctions the US put in place to aid in the countries downfall. Their shady government and immense external pressure led to their eventual destruction, not their economic system. They have the worlds largest oil reserve and the US banned oil trade with them. They also had a suspect election, with accusations of voter intimidation, and with no way to enforce investigations into it. The economy was grossly mismanaged as well. All of these issues happen in capitalist nations with the same result.
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@doctorstrangelove9487 Human nature? You mean like when the US decides to sanction and overthrow every single socialist nation on the planet?
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@doctorstrangelove9487 Corruption, inefficiencies and politics have nothing to do with socialism. They are all signs of authoritarianism, which can happen regardless of economic stance. You're also missing out numerous US sanctions and invasions of socialist nations.
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@doctorstrangelove9487 Oh, you mean like Chile, 1973?
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@pi11sburydoeboy Let in? Someone needs to go back and watch the footage of them smashing that window or grabbing cops and throwing them into the crowd where they were subsequently beaten. That woman was shot for trying to get too close to the Senate while it was still being evacuated.
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His actual statement was "top half of my class" which turns out to be true. Honestly you lot will lie about anything.
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@mallariculp3551 "there is no such thing as democratic socialism" If socialism isn't democratic then it's not socialism.
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@lanefunai4714 "it was neither. It was the last hurrah of feudalism." Slave traders were private business owners. Did you seriously never learn about it growing up? "nobles in Africa sold their citizens to European nobles" Wrong again. Slave ships were run by whoever had the money for the voyage. While a lot of the time that was a member of the nobility, there are many notable examples of politicians, bankers and just plain old sailors traveling to buy slaves and setup their own plantations, or selling to a plantation owner and going for another trip. "Capitalists called "abolitionists" in Europe and the US collectively" Just wow, get a clue. So all the cotton they had slaves picking in the US was totally not capitalism. Plantation owners had absolutely no actual ownership and all plantations were actually owned by the crown, right? Moreover, the US was it's own country for about 85 years before the civil war, but I guess that was also just feudalism. In what way was that entire timeframe not capitalist since they obviously had no monarchy and private ownership of the plantations was very much a thing from the start? "The capitalists then made laws to prevent people from forcing others to work without pay." Then the capitalists went to war with the other capitalists to decide is some individuals were considered property or people. If anything the promise of monetary gain from the capitalist exploitation of human beings was a perfect example of capitalism supporting slavery. The end of slavery was due to industrialisation more than morality. "Socialists, on the other hand, have no problem making others work without pay, and still practice slavery today. " Well that's just silly. The whole point of socialism is that everyone owns everything. With that being the case, all products and services are offered by the state, and all workers work for the state. All people in the state receive a stipend for their work, as well as all their needs provided for. The stipend can then be used on all wants. So if you need housing, utilities, healthcare, enough food to live and such it can be provided without charge, your stipend can then pay for luxuries. All work goes into the system as is paid out to the workers. Now in practice it never works this way as corruption is impossible to avoid in a system like this and implementing it at such a huge scale is almost impossible, but theoretically it would be a society where poverty doesn't exist.
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@mallariculp3551 The definition of socialism is: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole" If democracy isn't present then the community doesn't own things as they have no control over them. By definition socialism must be democratic.
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@mallariculp3551 "What do you think the Cubans are protesting" Authoritarianism.
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 @Zero_cool79 "That's right, we are still just talking about pure, unchanged, socialist" Then define socialism.
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@Zero_cool79 Lenin can say what he likes. I want you to define socialism.
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@mallariculp3551 "Authoritarianism = socialism" Oh dear. Someone doesn't know anything about either of those things. "Hobbs is so entrenched in his indoctrination that he ignores Lenin’s warning just to prove he’s not indoctrinated." Then define socialism. Both of you have failed to do so. If you are so against socialism then break down what about the actual concept of socialism that you are so against.
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@mallariculp3551 This is where people get a little confused. For starters Trudeau, Sanders and the Nordic model are not socialism of any kind. While they may use the term "democratic socialism" they are in fact not socialist. A more accurate term would be social democracy. Social democracy is a type of capitalism, not socialism, where the needs of the people are met without the people assuming control of the means of production. The people are not given full control, making it not socialism. Your second confusion seems to stem from how Canadian elections work. Canada is a parliamentary system, meaning you vote for each member of the parliament separately. Trudeau was elected in Papineau by his constituents. Then, as a member of the Liberal party, he was elected as their leader by party members. So unless you have friends who either live in Papineau or are members of the Liberal party in Canada then of course they didn't vote for Trudeau. Moreover, Canada has several political parties that regularly split the vote a dozen different ways. As such the winning party usually gets well below 50% of the popular vote, however they get over 50% of the voting districts. Think of it like the senate or the electoral college. Finally, considering how much of a charmer you are, I don't think that your friends are a good basis for how the general Canadian population votes. Their elections are more fair than the US in terms of how democratic they are, that's for sure.
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@mallariculp3551 Look I'm sorry that you don't understand economic or political systems, but that's really not my fault. If you disagree then define the word you keep using. Define socialism.
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@Zero_cool79 I'm literally explaining the real world definitions and applications of socialism. Your entire premise so far has been "socialism fails" without actually explaining what socialism is. If you're incapable of supporting your own argument then don't pretend you can stand on it.
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@mallariculp3551 "I don’t answer to you Hobbs. I have all of my degrees" So your inability to support anything you are saying has caused you cross your arms and say "I just know" with nothing to support your argument. I would expect such mental fortitude of an 8 year own, but with you I was expecting maybe a modicum of self respect. "Where did you learn about democratic socialism" Research. Amazing what you can do with research isn't it. The same place I learnt about the Canadian political system, social democracy, the benefits of a social support network and more. You should really try living outside your bubble sometime. "The use of linguistics is a typical ploy of the left to confuse issues." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Seriously though, you think clarifying an issue by using exact definitions is designed to confuse? Maybe the issue is your inability to stick to a definition.
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