Comments by "Goldenhawk583" (@Goldenhawk583) on "Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen"
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@BlueCR055 how superior men are? lol That is just plain funny.. and I like men, and love my man:) But superior? I see awesome people, men and women, I see stupid people, men and women, I see clever people, men and women... And then I see people like you, who claim men are superior.. based on a piece of dangly bits between the legs. The only thing a man can be saide to be superior in, in average.. is brute strength, nothing more. Men are not more , or less, intelligent, They are not more, or less good at caring for a family.
Yes, men and women are different, and I agree we are complimentary, but being complimentary also implies being of equal value. Calling one superior immediatly brings diversion.. and bullies will always take advantage if they have the excuse that they are "superior" ( female bullies too). We have EQUAL value.. it is as simple as that.. doesnt mean we are identical, we are not.
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@jimneysweep9810 No, I do not. Not every disaster is human made, even if a lot of them are.
How do you think natural disasters happened before humans started to play with stuff like that?
Historical eveidence, geological evidence, archeological eveidence.. all point to our world going through cycles of disaster. About every 12000 years, it is cyclical.
A lot of things happen at the same time. Magnetic poles shift, and the magnetic field lessens. Check.
Weathercycles go bonkers across the board, with increasing power every year. check.
The sun changes, weakens, ( it used to be yellow, now its white and feels harsher). check.
Days become shorter.. it is just by milliseconds, so we dont notice, but it is measurable and it is happening, so.. check.
It will get way worse than today, and the the speed is increasing.. its rolling downhill and the hill just got steeper.
Extreme electric storms ( noticed the uptick of lightnings and auroras and other such things lately?)
Extreme winds, extreme floods..far worse than any today.
This is not human made, it is nature doing natural things.. and all we can do, is try to survive it. There will be very little left when it is over.
Our job is to.. 1 survive, and 2,make sure this kind of sick rulership we have today, does not keep on rolling on the flipside.
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When you have had enough.. that is when your old self breaks down, and your new self starts to form.
some just die inside, and accept everything from that point.
some find they are ready to fight...
Heres the issue.. pick your battles, and learn to wait until the right moment.
Stop getting all worked up about things you can not do anything about in the moment.. if you dont learn this, then you will fall apart, maybe before the fighting even starts.
Learn to laugh, even when things are hard, learn to find joy still, in the little things.. a funny cloud, a late flower, etc.
Fighting garbage, while I get the annoyance, seems to be the last thing to waste energy on right now.
Letting people get to you.. while very hard, is also something to learn.
And, I am speaking from experience, not just to "sound wise".
This rabbithole is much deeper than most people think.. than they are even able to think.
Never beg your slavemaster for lenience.. if that was something they did, they would not be slavemasters.
I have not worn a mask, I have not got the killshot, and I never will...
For anyine interested , I have some interesting numbers, and a video with a molecular biologist who has a very scary message.
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@Theo-dj7vs Why are you still here? I dont look at videoes I do not like, I turn them off, simple. I dont care what you think of me, i believe you have the freedom to think what you want.
I like his videoes, so I will keep watching them, after talking to you, I might even get his books.
Some of your claims "his books are bad", are fine, it is personal opinion, and you are free to have them. Other claims, as for the reason he does what he does, demands either, that you know him. I will assume you do not. Or, that you have a preconceived notion about how men, that look like him, ( see your previous comments)act and behave to fool people.
Also called having a bias.
I assume we are done now? Goodbye sir:)
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@christianriddler5063 you obey your king? You have some killing to do then. Deuteronomy 13:7-12 ESV
Some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. And all Israel shall hear and fear and never again do any such wickedness as this among you. ...
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@nickcasolino8903 what constitutes deadly for you? If recovery rate is 99,98% as it is for most, then what about a jab that is killing to fix it? If it kills even one healthy person ( and it has killed several), is that not murder ? In one case you have to tounge kiss strangers to even have a remote ( but unlikely) chance of infecting anyone, and noone does this... In the other case you jab a needle with experimantal drugs into someone, knowing full well, it MIGHT kill the person getting jabbed.. If you know this, and still jab someone, I would call it attempted murder, or murder, depending.
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Yes, that is called human sacrifice.. When you kill something and spill its blood, to gain something for someone else. Then there is the ritual of consuming the offering . Consuming a human offering would be called cannibalism ( or cannibalism by proxy with wine and bread), but in the bible, eating human flesh is not only good, but a must .
Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life ... For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him ... He that eateth me, even he shall live by me. John 6:53-57
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@gonsonandenschinder Pride can be both negative and postive. It is not only an ego driven, negative thing as you seem to claim. If your grandfather buildt a house, and you never met him, would it be bad then, to like that house more than you like other houses? It belongs to your roots, your history.. feeling a connection, end jaoy about that, is that a bad pride? Do you owe strangers to feel the same about their houses?
I come from viking roots, I feel that connection, I feel the history.. that is the foundation of me and my life. I like several other cultures too, old ones, like the native american for instance, but I do not have those roots. I can feel a kinship, but no foundation, it is not where I come from.
Pride is wrong when mixed with arrogance. When you feel above others because of it, better than others because of it. When your children does well at something, are you not proud of them? Is that a negative feeling?
Ego is another word that can be both good and bad. Like pride, it is bad, when you think it makes you more important than others, better.. that you have a right to treat others badly.
But it can also be a good thing.Remembering that we are ALL individuals, we are all important, yet unique. A society is made up of individuals, not 2 are the same, not 2 have the same dreams, and needs, and we need all those little differences to create a good whole. But today, it is all about the group, all about the common good, as if there are no individuals, and the single person does not matter, only the group does. This is the way downhill, towards complete destruction, because if the individuals can not live their lives to the fullest, they become miserable. If only the group maters, then noone can really live, and everyone ends up miserable... and we are supposed to think that this is for the common good.
I put it to you, if the individual can not soar and feel alive.. how can a group, a society, ever do the same?
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@michaelgriffin2741 you really think they control every weatherevent? They dont even understand the weather, how can they do more than create a little thing here and there? ( in relative terms). They are not gods...just humans.
Nature battles noone, nature is just nature.. allthough itcan seem a bit vindictive at times:) Nature does what nature always does.. strives for balance.
That is why arrogant humans who think they control something huge, are mistaken, butits great if people believe they are that powerful, because it makes people feel small in comparison.
They are the small ones though. Every bloody thing they come up with , has negative and unforseen, and /or ignored negative consequences.
And you are right, we are part of nature, every bit as much as any rock, or stem of grass. We too depend on nature being in relative balance to survive long term...and yet we destroy it.
These cycles will indeed reset a whole lot of things, and clean upp a lot of messes.
Chernobyl would be a good example.. apparently a fungus has appeared that destroys the radiation.. wildlife thrives there.
But we will have to start a bit from scratch on the flip end.. no electricity, no grid, no walmarts...
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@PavlovsBob yes, he will defend me to his death, he respects me, as i respect him.. but having him lead me.. im sorry, i will follow his lead in situations where he is the one with skills and knowledge.. but it would be foolish to follow HIS lead, in the sutuations where i have the skills and knowledge.
Also, while some men are like you say, and thats nice if it suits both parts , ( I speak for ME, not all women), Way too many men tend to end up as bullies if they think they are the boss of the house.. Mutual respct is key.. and equal freedom. Try turning it on the head, and imagine urself surredering to your wife, having to obey her, even when you think she is wrong.. how does it make you feel to imagine that? My guess is.. pretty much like i feel when you tell me to "surrender" to my man.. he would wonder what the hell happened to me:P
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@jungly8103 lol, well, I find it interesting, that we are all individual drops in this oceean.. and apparenty we are meant to be just that, individuals. I mean , why else would we need individual experiences? I agree we are all parts of a bigger whole, but like any physical body, it needs a multitude of different parts to work as it should, If we became as the "new normal" seems to want, all the same.. Where would creativity go? Where would inventions go..curiosity, desire to learn new stuff?
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@AuntNutmeg yea, I do too, because spraying others with my spittle and maybe some snot, seems rude.
Spraying that on the inside of a mask, clogging it to make breathing even more difficult, making sure I do not get enough oxygen, and having that gunk rub against my face, seems disgusting to me.
It is not dangerous to be sprayed in such a way, unless the person has a bacterial infection, then it may infect you, but it is absolutely not pleasant.
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@guyfournier Uhm, viruses can not spread tht way at all. Our bodycells makes viruses when exposed to a toxic overload.. stress for instance. The viruses are a solvent, dissolving and expelling the toxins. Viruses are single strand dna, not double, meaning they can not live outside the host body, or self replicate. By the time you sneeze them out, they are falling apart, incapable of "infecting " anyone.
The official virus scare, is part of the lie.. it has been used as fact in medicine the last 200 years, even if has never been proven, EVER.
Your attitude, is the pathetic one... not finding actual facts, but buying the lie as so many others.
Masks has killed people, since it prevents you from getting enough oxygen.. you may be "fine" if you remain calm, but any elevated breathing, and you keep breathing your own expelled air, and depraving yourself. No, masks dont do anyone any good.
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@paulworgan6599 True, it makes no sense at all. If anything, it reminds me of an abusive parent or spouse, claimin g the punishement is because of love... If there is love in there, it is self love. Jesus even says, that if you love anyone else, a child, a family member, more than you love him.. then you are not worthy of jesus.
I have four children.. he can go and havefun with himself for all I care.. Demanding love, is not a loving act. Love is earned, not demanded.
I came thos these conclusions because I too wanted to belong to something.. Reading the bible I realized that most people are far better than the god in any of the books.
More caring, more loving and more just.
You are not alone friend:) And even if I do not believe the books, I had an experience once, where love washed over me ( sounds insane I know:P), and I KNEW that the bible and all tht was a lie, because this love.. was all powerful, all inclusive, and completely without judgement.. I cant describe it better.
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@arlostein1000 you do not have enough integrity to show yourself as a polite person ( you could still totally disagree with me). Pay pig? that is a new one for me, does it mean anything, or was it an attempt at an insult? :)
So, you do not like his books, big deal, people have different tastes in books, and that is how it should be. I have war and peace, I have pride and prejudice, I have the Iliad and the Odyssey.. and I have wheel of time , lord of the rings and Sword of truth. I like all of them, and many more. Taste will differ.
I do not care what you think his reasons are for things. If you think what he is doing, going on a walk to sit outdoors and have a coffee, is rugged? You have no idea what rugged is.
My dear man, you have not exposed him, but yourself, in this non creative rant. I bid you farewell.
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Quill Inkwell Very true, but why this pushing of "christian values" then? Those values , not killing, stealing, raping , etc, are shared by a lot of people who are not christian in any way, is it not wrong then, to label them christian? Would it not be more honest, to call them healthy, human values? That would remove religion from the table all together, it would remove historical ties that prove christianity to be anything but humane, and allow the values to be shared, world wide without getting into an argument about their origin.. which is NOT religious in nature, but simply human..
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@DvineWakandandian_Warrior The people were farmers, and traders first and foremost. Rapists? Some i suppose, like every traveling culture ever. In fact, the british, the french and so on, did not bring women with them, because they would always find new ones.. I am pretty sure they did not ask:P
As traders they did not pillage all over, and they were known traders and warriors. Their slaves, yes they had slaves, had the chance to buy their freedom back, and would then become normal members of society.
Their women had more power and more freedom than in most other cultures of the same time period, and more even than some cultures today, so get off your high horse and do some studying before opening your mouth. Nothing divine, or godessy about the way you slander others.. shees.
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@BRAVEHEART.JOHN.3.16 Avoiding most of what I said, like all biblepushers I have met.
Assuming your god is too stupid to understand human experience of time. That could be correct.. he does not seem very intelligent.
But do you really think that using caps and screaming at me to "repent" , will actually make a difference?
I am screwed either way, i have artists in my family.
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven..., in earth..., or in water: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
This one’s a little complicated. It appears that all art, sculpture, even photography may have to cease. A lot of details to be worked out here. I’m not even sure if replicas of the Commandments would be legal. Might have to use audio. As for the latter part - punish the children up to the forth generation - records will need to be kept. (This principle worked quite well in the Middle Ages and during the Inquisitions, whereby suspected "heretics" were tried and convicted long after their death, enabling the Church/government to seize land and property from their descendants.)
Now, unless you are ashamed of biblegods massmurders, you should have no problem telling me how many he kills in the biblebook. And since you mentioned satan.. how many did HE kill in the same book?
C'mon, you must agree to all these killings.. even think they are great, since you want ME to repent, without asking a massmurderer (biblegod) to do so.
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@martialme84 lol, I am really wondering who is over reacting here:) I was not arguing your point as such, merely asking a rhetorical question. Well maybe not so rhetorical ..( I dont know how i missed your reply btw, sry for the late response). My point is that we are getting more and more laws imposed on us.. for our own safety..Soon we cant do anything because its not safe for us. How babied do we have to be, is what i wonder.. at which point does it become too much? Why are we treated like children that do not know our own best, in stead of being treated as adults that can decide for ourselves? Is it ok to allow the stupid actions of a few dictate what the rest of us are free to do or not do? And yes, in a fire situation, having a cell phone is a lot better than not having one. ( I am totally calm, not barking or angry, just suggesting a disussion on a topic;) no need to tell me to chill, lol )
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@seanomeirs8362 uhm.. I have to disagree I am afraid.
Governments were made by warlords back in the time. Rulership gained by brute force, and kept with the threeat of force ever since.
It was made by the few, to control the many.
Wanting to rule, is inherently immoral, and proves your mindset that the many can not, or should not be allowed to, rule themselves.
Placing oneself in a position of " I know how others should live, and I damn well will make sure they do as I say", is NEVER for the good of the people, but only to gain the ruler.
Most of our expectations about governments are based in 2 major things : 1, We have been told since childhood, that we must have governments, and they are there to help us.
2, We would NEVER do what governemts do, lie, kill and make people sick for profit, so most people cant really believe governments actually do it either.
If I was free to manage myself, I would need nothing from them. But, as it is, since I dont own land.. I have to get some stuff from them, like it or not.
Example, in order to visit my children, I need a car.. so,,I follow the rules for cars.
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Looks to me like everything is going exactly as jesus promoted.. not much of a save if you ask me:P
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. (Matthew 10:34)
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. (Matthew 5:17)
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@cincoy3679 do you want your man to decide over you? I am honestly wondering. My man is strong.. and smart, and has no need to control me. He is ex military( active duty for years), I am not. We have different strengths he and I, and no need to boss each other around. Who makes the call depends on what we are doing.
If men should boss women around only because they have dangly bits, I think we lose a lot of the ground we have gained.
I hope the men here agree with this, that it is about working together, not one boss and one slave. ( Sorry, I have been a slave to the system for too long, to become an obediant underling to any person).
If we go back into the idea that the man must be the one to decide things because he is stronger (better???), we will lose a lot of skills and knowledge that women might have and bring to the table. It might be easy for men ( I dont know, Iam not a man), to drop back into the role of being the boss of the household, but it would be a nightmare for a lot of us women.
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@BRAVEHEART.JOHN.3.16 Hmm, yes, well I would never kill anyone else , just to have some blood to clean myself in.. and what I am supposed to clean myself of, is what YOU call sin.
It is still a blood sacrifice, it still demands a killing for personal benefit.
I call it murder, and evil.
Have you abondoned your family as well? Since you defend a bookgod so strongly?
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. Matthew 19:29, Mark 10:29-30, Luke 18:29-30
Or did you even marry?
They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage. Luke 20:35
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@r32guy85 the vikings abolutely had slaves, but under somewhat different rules. The slaves could buy themselves free after a set time.
This does not change the fact that the bible has NO rules for letting people be free, and over 50 for how to keep a slave. Also several rules for how slaves were to act.
Fathers could sell their daughters in the bible.. that does not promise well for women, as it assumes that women are property from birth.
Yelling about what the vikings did in that context, becomes a strawman argument.
But what else did vikings do? Women had high positions, and as much trust and right to own as any man. Unlike the bible.
People were encouraged to stand tall, and be fair, unlike the bible, where people are told to bend their knees and beg. Being fair is not a big thing in the bible.. taking what you want , and murder anyone who objects is more the norm. Now you COULD say the vikings did this too, but unlike the christians, vikings normally traded, not looted, while the christians raided, looted and forced christianity on people. I still prefer Odin.
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Any other viable way? To have people at the top, that do not care one bit about you or your needs, who will send your children to war without blinking,.. who will demand you PAY THEM to do so even... this is working for you? There are other ways,... but the horror side of it is.. We would have to take full responsibility ourselves.. for our words and our actions..The econimcs you speak of has destroyed the many, and enriched the few.. it is not working. The medicine you speak of, has killed more people than it has ever cured.. it is all about profit. Yes, we have learned a lot, but it is not about health.. it is about profit. Perhaps PROFIT, should be seen as it is in most cases.. greed. ( not talking about small businesses here, but the big ones.)
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Fluxtronics right, so you just dismissed half the bible as drivel, then say that human sacrifice is cool, then you tell me to look at a picture of gods son.. a picture that does not exist.
Jesus is quite clear on ignoring the old testament.. he says DONT.
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be obeyed until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
Slavery? A lot of rules about who can be one, and how to treat them ( you can only ALMOST kill them), Not a single rule saying it is not ok to own other humans.
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
And as far as killing children goes.. have you completely forgotten how GOD killed all the firstborn of egypt? ( There are far more stories, but that one is known to everyone):
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
i think you need to read up on the bible.. and maybe ask yourself.. Igf it is a god, why does he need enablers to get his murdering excused?
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@a-normal-mousse Iagree with most of what you are saying, but there is this.
Most military has experienced soldiers and lower officers/sergeants. They are not all young and fearful. Some have seen war, maybe several wars. They are not stupid.
This virus hoax ( the germ theory, is STILL a theory), with all the insanity going on from governments all over, is making everyone wonder.. including military personnel.. it is just too much in your face to be ignored.
Also, they will not be told to go somewhere else to fight an enemy, they will be told to point their guns on allies, or even their own countrymen.. and deny them the very freedom these soldiers are supposed to be fighting for.
Yes, some will be all that you said.. a lot will not. There is a reason all US vets that are no longer in service, are put on the terrorist watch list.
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@sheilahollley7129 Lol, you think I am american, what a hoot. And how typical....
As far as politics go... They are all playing the same game of controlling populations.. I never vote, whats the point, leaders are not voted in, they are selected in by their masters.. then the people get the charade of voting, to make them think they have a say.. it is all a big hoax.
You claim the right to speak ( and you have it), because this is an open forum.. do I not have the same right? Why do you have to resort to mocking, rather than staying on subject? I always see the one that resorts to mocking, as the loser of a debate.. simply because they ran out of valid points, and did not have the courtesy to just stop, but had to try methods of belittleing the opponent. Very immature.
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here is gods words on authority.. so you can relax now.. just obey and you will be fine . “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws
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Bjørn, you are soo correct.
Every 12000 years, our world goes through a huge disaster cycle. It is survivable ( duh, humans are still here), but it is devestating to established life at the time. Look at todays state of weather, natural disasters, fires, volcanoes, earthquakes, floods etc.
This plandemic would be a perfect way to keep people looking one way, and not see what happens right in front of their noses.
Theycan afford to be reckless and brutal, because soon they will be in their bunkers, and we will be struggling with natural catastrophes all over the place.
When things settle, and they will, They can come out of their bunkers, and offer salvation....
At least, after following this possible line of events for years, this is what I believe is happening.
My children are young adults, they would like a huge change...Like my youngest said ( IT consultant), Sure, I wouldnt have internet and computers, but life would actually MEAN something.
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@sandrajohnson9926 Not much of a saviour..
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. (Matthew 10:34)
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. (Matthew 5:17)
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@tonyharty3666 Thank you :) I will go by what I know about "viruses" as far as this plandemic goes though. The germ theory is 200 years old now, and still, noone has managed to prove that viruses are contagious. In fact, they seem to be part of our own immune system. They are produced in our own cells as a response to toxic overload ( too much stress, something from the environment, and so on). Their job is like a solvent, diffuse and expell the toxins from the body. Hence becoming snotty and coughing.
Viruses can not "live" outside the host body, and every person has his/her own uique viruses. They can not remain active on surfaces, or infect another even if they are transferred with a sneeze or cough. They are single strand dna, rna, so they can not self replicate.
Bacteria is while different ballgame, and most claims of what viruses do, fits with bacteria.
There was a coutcase in germany, when someone demanded a promised reward for proving measles was caused by a virus. The couts final verdict was that no reward was to be payed, as there is NO true and verifiable proof that measles are caused by a virus. That is an idea, not a proven fact.
Measles still comes around every 5 years or so, no matter if people are vaccinated, and the only ones that are actually immune to it, are those who have had it before. Being vacinated gives no guarantee of immunity.
I am rambling, sorry:)
But yes, nature does tend to deal with stuff going wrong, perhaps that is why we are now seing such a raise in extremeweatherm volcano eruptions and earthquakes, who knows:)
I do think it will get worse before it gets better, and I also think we may have to do some kind of action to make sure we dont all end up as slaves to an insane leadergroup.
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So, this command from god.. he didnt mean it?
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws
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@JoesWebPresence Yes.. Jesus.. because hes soo nice.. Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. (Matthew 10:34)
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. (Matthew 5:17)
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@JoesWebPresence Not going to read all that.. telling me what god and jesus thinks and means is 1, blasphemy, as per your own belief, and hence punishable by death, as per your own book.
2, pointless, since I do not believe in the book god.. or the book jesus.. ,.. your claims about.. anything on them is irrelevant.
The only thing I ever do about the bible book, is quote it.. and follow the one command they make about it. DO NOT interpret it to your own liking.. It is inspired bygod as is, and should be read to the letter.
I still dont belive in it though.. but it supports slavery, it supports genocide, it justefies killing children to make a point.. How can anyone worship this??? I find it baffling.. and dangerous.
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@Thyalwaysseek no I have not. I have not interpreted it at all, I read it as is, I printed it in as is.. The one command of the bible i do follow when talking about is.. DO NOT INTERPRET! It is already inspired by god, and interpreting it to fit your needs is actually saying that god was wrong:P
But hey. I think that book god is insane.. so yeah.. he is really wrong on a lot of things.
The "you took it out of context" and the " that is not what god meant",, common excuses to explain away the horrors described in the book.
What about this one? The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
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@myrtleesther8855 “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be obeyed until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
I think this means that just having a relationship, is not good enough. Obey or be punished seems to be teh way to go. Allthough, I do hope your heart keeps deciding your way, and NOT the commands of an insane god.. I think you are a good person, if you are, the book condemns you, sorry.
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@sarahn.9358 ye, hunger games could have been better, I agree. But what I wanted to clarify by using that. is the similarity between agenda 21/30 ( official document, not conspiracy), and how the people in the hunger games lives.
You have the filthy rich on top, with everything they can want, available to them.
Then you have the camps, fenced in camps, where ordinary people live.
Ordinary people do NOT have all they could want, in fact, they have too little of it all the time. They can not travel anywhere either. Some "more essential" camps, are bit better off than others.
Then you have the games, where only the rich gets to view in person, and only the camps provide participants. Effectively pitching the camps against eachother, as entertainment.
This is pretty much what is planned for human future.. you will own nothing and be happy.
Only.. you wont be happy ofc, because that kind of life is not what humans are designed for.
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@garrygraham7901 no dear, it is not that the biblegod is fictional that gets me riled up. I think you allready knowthat..
I too can read.. I too have eyes, and I have my integrity. My line in the sand if you will.
It is not pride, but perhaps you will see it as pride.. perhaps you will see it as a sin.
I will give you a few pointers of what I see as wrong ( and as proof that the book god is an evil character).
The premise here is, he is all knowing, he is never wrong, and he is good to good people, and sends the rest to hell.
1 All the killing, and all the abuse of children to make apoint, that the book god does.
- The first born in egypt ( inculding animals). Abraham almost killing his son ( trauma bigtime). Killing Jobs(I think it was Job)children, then "replacing them with NEW children.. The book god does not see children as humans, and have no issues causing them great harm or death .
2, He has rules for slavery, including how severely you may beat your slaves... And not once is it said that slavery is bad.
A father can sell his daughter as a slave, meaning girls are born slaves, only some men are not slaves.
3 The good person Lot, is saved from the killing of Sodom and Gomorrah.. He is a better person than everyone there, including babies.
Sara, his wife, looks back once, at her lost life, lost family, lost friends, and is punished and killed.
Lot keeps on with his 2 daughters..gets drunk and gets them pregnatn.. this is NOT punished.. so incest must be a good thing.
So much more to pick from.. but I have nothing to repent, compared to what that character has:P And I certainly would NEVER worship such a being even if it was real..
Now , debating me is a sin.. Letting me live, is also a sin..
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
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@Christopher Wallbank Read that book again please. There are far more than 10 commandments, and they only apply when you feel like it ( apparently). Tell me, what was the first thing Moses did , coming down from a mountain , where he spoke to a bush for ages, now carrying (?) 2 stone tablets of commands.. One of which read : Thou shalt not kill!
I will make it easy on you.. He KILLED 3000 of hie his followers, that had made a golden calf,, you know, to not feel alone and abandonded. I guess he followed another one og gods commands, one I never hear christians yell, unless they are on some kind of jihad.
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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@vidarberg2050 Wow, just wow... so you are angry with Bjørn because he is careful due to youtube algorithms... calling him a weakling and whatnot. MAKE yourself famous like him then.. make a channel and hang every politician out to dry.. I would subscribe, because you describe them accurately, but please.. dont get mad at Bjørn fopr doing things his way , and not your way.. what kind of sense does that make?
He has other places you can go to get a deeper content.. youtube is NOT the platform that allows it, he would have his channeel deleted,.. and you say it is about moneygreed? No, it is about reaching as many as he can.. and youtube is one way.
But really, make your channel, hang politicians ( verbally.. it is youtube), and I will subscribe.
Og i tilfelle du lurer.. jeg er norsk:P
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I totally agree Bjørn, we do need to get fathers back into families and give it back the importance it once had. One thing that bothers me though.. I see an increasing amount of men, that wants to put women back into "their natural place as mens property". We ( women with freedom to think and act for ourselves), are apparently the real reason why everything has gone wrong since history began, and are not able to think a coherent thought, or make any decisions that are good. Like the racism you thought was a thing of the past. I thought, at least in our western world, that this womanblaming was a thing of the past.
Real men are not afraid of intelligent women, real men do not want braindead houseslaves, but life partners. At least I like to think so. But this topic is something we women can not deal with alone. This would create a war between sexes, as most of us WILL fight to remain free of shackles. The shackles being that we would be forced to obey men, just because they are men.
I would ask all real men out there to stand by us women ( who loves real men :) ), and speak up against this proposal of the enslavement of women. All I want, is that men and women have equal opportunity to chose their own path in life... just this, it is enough. Men and women are not identical with just a physical difference,.. we are different in other ways too, but that does not mean one is lesser than the other, or above the other.. we only need the freedom to make our own choice, be they good or bad.. to learn from.
So please.. raise your voice for freedom when you hear someone talking about returning women to slave status...The viking women were not slaves, they were as important for society as the men.. and this is my heritage.. I will not go down without a fight ;)
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@OSAS-SIMPLEMAN-IN-CHRIST
I suppose it could be Paul had his own personal opinion on that, and that is fine. How ever, enforcing the ACT on other people, is refusing them the freedom to have THEIR own opinion.
There is also a difference between voluntary burning of yourself, and making burnt offerings of people who did NOT consent.
I find it shocking, that "good christians" defend the murder of tens and tens of thousands of people, young and old, men, women and children, guilty or innocent... even firm believers sometimes.. just because god decided to do it..
He reminds me of a spoiled child with waaay too many toys to care about the value of each one, in the way he is claimed to act in that awful book.
Perhaps you would tell me how many people god kills in the bible then? Not just by fire, but by floods and pestilence, and bad mood rage.
For fun, you could give me the same number for satan?
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@OSAS-SIMPLEMAN-IN-CHRIST You missed something,.
I do not believe in the bible as a book of faith. If it was a true book of faith , it would be extremely short. Something like...
" The connection between the divine aspect and a human being, can only , ever , happen on an individual level. Anyone else, trying to give you "their manual", will bring conflict into YOUR connection with the divine."
There, I fixed the bible for you.
I am NOT against the divine aspect. I am against the book(s) of religion, that is nothing more than fearmongering, threats, ugly stories, mass murder, and a carrot on a stick/promise, that we MAY go to a better afterlife.
I am willing to bet that you dont even know how many commandments the bible has, and how many are in the Old, versus the New, testament.
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@OSAS-SIMPLEMAN-IN-CHRIST Killing who? Well, accurate counts, without the flood and such. God kills 2 821 364 people. At least 500 000 of these , were his followers, but he preferred another group of followers, so he killed them for land.
Numbers of kills with estimates, meaning the flood, the killings of all firstborn in egypt( excluding the animals), and so on...Total of 25 000 000.
Satan, with accurate counts, killed 10, on a bet with , and with permission from, your god. Numbers with estimates.. 60.
Those cities had a chance? In 2 cities, he needed 10 good people.. He could not find 10 innocent children even?
And then he saves Lot and his daughters , as the good people, godfearing and morally superior.
Lot, who first had tried to give up his daughters for sex to the cityfolk, in place of the angels, now got stupidly drunk after being saved. He then, in drunken stupor, impregnates both his daughters in an act of incest.
This is the morally better man????? These are the morally better women??? The one who looked back.. on her home, her friends and her life, she was turned to salt..
I am pretty sure that far more than 10 people in those towns , did NOT want to have sex with the angels... No sir, this was genocide, and there is NO justification for it.
I mean.. do you support hitles genocide? Stalins genocide? Chinas genocide? And if not.. why? God is clearly in favor of such actions.
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There is something we are not being told about viruses. 1, the germ theory, is still an unproven theory. 2, viruses only show up live in a person AFTER a person gets sick, yet they are there in an inactive state all our lives. 3, New evidence supports the idea that viruses are just part of the healing and cleaning crew in the body, and the reason for getting sick, is an overload of toxins. 4, Since we are individuals, our resistance to these toxins vary from person to person.
In other words, toxins and emf may well be the real culprit here, and the governments, since they all seem to do it world wide and seem to cooperate.. are using this as an excuse to get in the one world government.. Do not be surprised if martial law remains, and old "freedoms" are never returned.
Do not get vaccines.. please.. do not even test, and go to a hospital , only if you need critical help.
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@vikinglife6316 then do this “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws
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@vikinglife6316 The bible clearly states that it is to be read literally, and not be interpreted.
So that is what I do.
And no, you are not understanding me at all, if you did, you would not say my qute is wrong, while using another one yourself, that is supposed to correct.. just like that?
Wise as serpents, the same serpent that fooled Eve? And he clearly has no clue about doves, they are fierce and warlike.. not peaceful at all.
I am suggesting that who ever wrote the entire bible.. is a fraud and a usurper. I claim the book hijacked the divine aspect in life and severed peoples personal connection to it. I claim that the book allows for murder and slavery, and even has women born as slaves ( all of them), yet all that is ok, because god did it?
Do you have any idea of how many people the book god murders in that book? And mostly for really bad reasons.
Like.. to make a point, we kill children, to get land, we commit genocide.. to reward soldier, we take 32 000 women ( that has not yet been with a man) as sex toys.
Ye.. nah, that book is not a good one.. AND it is really badly written.
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@springcrocus7flower635 He has HIS god with him, if he thinks so, and avoids reading most of the bible. That is his choice.
I am not really offended, why would it offend me? I would have to believe his book god to be real, to be offended by it. No, Im simply fed up with all the christianty popping out of the woodwork, telling people what they MUST DO to avoid eternal hell and punsihment.
I will agree, this post did not do that too much.
Our governments are using the exact same rhetoric now, to force people into obedience, and into taking the toxic jabs. Do, or be doomed, DO or be shunned, DO , or die... And dont you ever dare think for yourself, or disagree.
can you see what I mean?
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@springcrocus7flower635 No, I do not know him, but he seems to be a good person, and one who thinks.. that means 1 out of 2.. 1, he never read the whole book, and hence do not know about all the cruelty and inconistency in there, or 2, he has read it, and he is fine withg slaver, selling women for sex, killing chidren to make a point or outright genocide..+++. I prefer to think he is nr 1.
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@springcrocus7flower635 uhm. I think you need to look into wars of religion.
Also, in the bible, god himself kills for gain, for loot.. nothing glorious about that.
Take the flood, everyone and everything killed, even the plants they said . ( and then a dove arrives with a leaf from an olive tree.. I guess that NOT everything died?)
Was every single human evil? every animal, every plant?
No.. some of them were, but the rest had to pay for GODS mistake of creating that situation.
He is all knowing, is he not? Well, then he could prevent the bad stuff. If he doesnt prevent it ( and he NEVER does), he has no bloody right for punishing anyone for doing it either. Much less punsih a whole world because he was upset ( what kind of a whimpy snowflake is he)with a few.
Some of your gods laws:
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
a better world if we follow these laws you said. right...
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@martynjukes482 no intention to be rude, your answeer is polite, and I do appreciate that. And I totally agree with not bowing to scientists and politicians as if they were godlike.
But.. do you actually read the bible?
born sinners. created rotten , yet god is kind.
H e tortured and muredered his child.. that is kind? It is kind because the sins.. that you were created to make, would be forgiven? Then why are they NOT forgiven? And how is making a human sacrifice a good thing? No, just no.
God only punishes sinners and those that partake.
Soo he created man a rotten sinner( we are born sinning), and rather than being forgiven for it as jesus was murdered for, we must be punished.
Do you follow all the commendments of god? Do you hold the same values as the book god?
Do you kill your child if it swears to you? Jesus was very upset with the jewws for N0Tdoing that...
Do you take it upon yourself to kill those who believes in other gods? The bible commands you to kill them, and jesus made it clear.. he is NOT revoking any of gods commands.
If you do not follow these kind commends of bringing death, then YOU are doomed, so there is not really any way out..yet.. I am sure yoy are a much better person than the biblegod would allow you to be, if you obeyed it.
Why worship a massmurdering god.. makes no sense to me at all.
Do you know how many people god kills in the bible alone? How many does satan kill in the bible?
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@martynjukes482 Acts of wrath and mercy. And he hates the sin, not the sinner.
Wrath against people who like they were created to act, aka humans, seems to me to be putting the blame on the creation, rather than the creator. Petty move.
Mercy.. when on earth did he ever show mercy on a large scale? I know he killed a lot of people when asked to do so by his favourites.. was that the mercy?
When Lot, his wife and 2 daughters left their home, and the wife turned to look at her whole life , friends and family be burend and killed by this mercyfull god of wrath.. did he forgive her for grieving? Nope, he turned her into salt.
Lot and the 2 girls lived, got to a cave, got drunk and had sex to make the girls pregnant. These acts were NOT punished, because THIS was fine with god.. incest happens way too often in that book. But the babies in the towns they ran from.. they burned.. for what.. being born?
No, the wrath of your master is cruel and over the top.. his mercy is fickle and barely exists.
Giving his son jesus.. again with the glorification of a human blood sacrife.. are you serious? Should we do that more perhaps, because the god does not seem to have changed any of the punishments for sinning, even if he slaugtered his son:P
Keep searching for the divine aspect. It is a logical fallacy to succumb to the bible.. as we are brainwashed into thinking there must be this book.. Nope, no book needed. Just go your own way, it will enrich your spiritual life.. and take nothing away from it. If you ever felt divine love and really thought about it.. you would know that the wrathful biblegod can not ever give such love.
In the bible god kills 2 821 364 people, that is a huge number.-. add stuff like the flood, and you get about 25 million.
Satan kills 10.. on a bet with god.. add estimates to HIS killings and you get about 60. I dont think god dislikes killing at all... He demands it way too often.
And then you can add all religious wars and persecutions since then.. the number is staggering.
The law did NOT disappear with jesus, in fact he demands you hold to every single one of gods commands ( way more than 10).
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. (Matthew 10:34)
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. (Matthew 5:17)
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. (Matthew 11:20)
Jesus, whose clothes are dipped in blood, has a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth. Thus attired, he treads the winepress of the wrath of God. (The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up.) (Revelations 19:13-15)
The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest of us, the unchosen, will be killed with the sword of Jesus. “An all the fowls were filled with their flesh.” Revelations (19:20-21)
And since he doesnt like females much, I could follow him all I wanted and STILL be killed and doomed at the end. I mean.. you dont allow fathers to sell their daughters off as sex slaves if you have even a tad respect for women ,,,
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@martynjukes482 I am not bitter about god, I am baffled how people can read a book and excuse so many atroceties is all, lol.. why would I be bitter about a book character? That makes no sense at all, unless one is oversensitive ofc.. I am not.
Somewhere in the bible it says to take it literally, and NOT interpret it, as it is ALLREADY inspired by god. That makes sense to me, if one assumes the god is real. If anyone could interpret the book as they saw fit, we get exactly what we have today.. A ton of different groups, each having the correct understanding, and while some are truly good and caring people, others will kill anyone that thinks different than them.. and selective reading makes them both correct. Actual reading excludes the nice guys.. you are supposed to kill non believers.
Just because a mass murderer of women , loves one or two of them .. does not mean he respects women as of equal value as men.
It was not young MEN that were left alive after a territorial war in the bible, but 32000 women, "that had not yet been with a man". They were passed out as slaves to everyone from the soldiers to the clergy. And to avoid the "but they were the enemy" argument.. Fathers can sell their own daughters as slaves... not their sons.. so its not spesific to the enemy.
Killing all the firstborn in egypt???
moses killing 3000 of his own when he came off the mountain , just because they tried finding something to keep their morale up? ( with the .. thou shalt not kill :P)
And thenb there is the really actually stupid stuff.. Like. ALL birds were made to fly. That is proveably not true...
Dont pray for me, I am sure you have something better to do. I have allready broken so many of your books rules that I am doomed anyway.. no redemtion for me, lol
its fine.. its not real:)
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@martynjukes482 You pray for mankind? I can get praying for individuals, but mankind, is a very large group.. and i dare say a lot of them feel like me.
I am no longer sure you wish me well.....
Are these the verses you pray people obey?
Deuteronomy 10:20
You shall fear the Lord your God; you shall serve him ... (key words, fear and serve).
Psalms 123;2
As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of the female slave look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the Lord ur God, till he shows us his mercy. (key intention, be like a slave in fear).
1 Peter2:6
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover up-up for evil; live as gods slaves. (key intention:do not use free will, only follow gods commands, dont think, live like the slave you are.)
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@TheDavidbeckham7 Fair enough:) And I am sorry if if sounded harsh, text is so easy to get wrong, is it not? :)
I meant that it is difficult to have a friend, that will dismiss you if you say one single thing that he/she disagrees with. I will stand by that comment, but this is why I asked for more information, and it was not a personal judgement of me on you. I can not do that, I dont know you ;)
I could be wrong, but I think Bjørn is simply un educated on weed in general. Also, he did not ( i think) specify it was weed being used where he was at.. he was wording it rather carefully, so it might have been something else.
I have watched a lot of his videoes, I do not agree with him on everything, but i do agree on the integrity, the honor, and the honesty parts. He is not a snowflake, i can say that much :) Wish you all the best ;)
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@donikatod460 of course there are differences, and I am not against electricity per se.. just our complete dependance on it.
Freedom, be it of thought or otherwise, is not existing in our world much anymore. I have felt like a free range slave all my life, due to all the laws and rules and fees , pushed on me by people I never knew, who seems to think they can guide my life as they please ( read governments).
At the same time, the rules pushed on "us", do not apply to "them".
I think most people do not even know what freedom is anymore.. and it scares them.
Cities, not good for people at all.. no way you can have a better life in a city. More stuff, sure, but not a better life.
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@joshuagreenslade3445 oh please.. you may find this very hard to believe, but they are lying to us, I know.. horrible is it not? Doctors have been told to put cov19 on death certificates, no matter what. A huge number of people have been told their loved ones died from covid, when they know this is not true.. some even fell down a staircase and was STILL noted as a covid death.
But yes, people are dying, I am not saying they are not.. but you wuill find that during the covid time.. all other types of deaths.. has dropped to near 0.
YOUr own body makes viruses to clean up toxins. This is a fact, not fiction. Meaning viruses can not be contagious.
Something else is making people ill then.. somethiong in the environment, something that suddenly was there , and it is new. 5G rolled out and people started getting sick and dying in Wuhan.
Here is the thing you see.. radiation from 5G can cause "elevation sickness". As in.. the blood can not get to the oxygen in the air.
A flu wil clog up your longs, and tire your muscles, making it hard to breathe.. that is why they need a ventilator.
5G makes your red bloodcells unable to take up oxygen.. so the muscles are fine, the lungs are clear, but you just cant get air no matter how hard you breathe. Aventilator in this case will cause death, or atleast damaged lungs.
I have some links to information if you want it?
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rabbits, chickens, quail.. even if your crop fails, the first 2 can be fed on what you can gather. Hay is enough for rabbits through winter ( good hay, leaves, etc that is dried), and chickens are good foragers, dry berries, seeds etc for winter.
with rabbit meat and eggs, you can also keep dogs and cats healthy. They will die without meat. ( and so will you, over time).
Hunting takes a lot more skill than cutting grass.
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@seanomeirs8362 I am grateful for what I have, dont get me wrong. I do feel that it is our ( mine and everyone else like me, aka , ordinary people) responsibility to change the things that are wrong, to the exctent that we can. If I just dismiss it as not my problem, then nothing will ever get better, will it?
I mean.. should we wait until government itself sees their own flaws, and just.. goes away by themselves?
By denying responsibility, one supports whats wrong, and keeps looking to others to fix our problems. No.. if I have a chance to change things, I will take it. Living like this is surviving, not thriving.
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@seanomeirs8362 the same people who does it today. US.
Governments do none of these thing with the exception of sending military to take over other countries and gight in rich peoples wars.
I said there are ways to get things done, without having rulers decide your life for you.
I never said we all live on a little farm each, never being in touch with others.
WE are the ones doing all these things now, do you think governments build roads, build housing, fight fires? Did you ever see a ruler go to war personally?
Do you think, without a government, people suddenly dont have skills anymore? A community cant fix a bad road?
Some people actually love doing the jobs you asked about, it is their calling.. They would still be able to do that.. you make it sound as iif, with a government to tell us exactly what to do... we would just stumble around, being selfish nitwits.
This is the true lie of all rulers.. People are too stupid to govern themselves.
One example that could work, where everyone has a say ( within their own country), and no one group of people, or no one person, is the top dog., is a method , thought out by someone our governments really did not like.
His name was Gaddafi.. look up "Gaddafi, The green book." and read it.
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@seanomeirs8362 Why would the rich ( and I mean idiotically rich, like a country gdp kinda rich) ever want to kill eachoter?
Analogy, chickencoop, Chicken 1 says to chicken 2, Do you ever see the feeders kill eachoter? No, the feeders are chosen by the chickenflock, if the flock is bad, the feeders will be bad too.
They wont kill eachother, because they are all in the same club.. we have NO chance of getting in it.
Not only do we not have a chance to get in the club,, we are not even considered to be of the correct blood to ever get in.
If you do some checking, you will find that every country leader , close to 100% of them, come from the same bloodlines ( family) that has led countries for hundreds of years. Going all the way back to egyptian times.
Even Trump:P
We do NOT select our leaders, they are NOT of the people.
They are preselected, THEN we get a few to pick from for that period.
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@Niels357 I am not disagreeing with you on soil management, I am just wondering about a few things about boars.
1, Are boars a natural part of the land where you live, or are they new to the land?
2, If you plant seeds, and the boar shits 10 m away, how is there any crop left after the boars ate it?
3, if you have them so close that you see them from you house, daily, and boars are very territorial, do you have issues with boars attacking people?
4 Do you also raise other animals without fencing? and how does that work?
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@Niels357 So.. you do NOT put seeds in the ground, you dont grow anything.. you dont raise animals and you do not grow crops of any kind..
You sit in a chair and shoot boars when they pass. Then , when your mother goes to fetch the boar.. she falls and breaks her hip. Now she is weak, so you let her die.
your wife , who just gave birth, leaves the baby alone, to see if it can learn to fish....
I think I understand what you mean, I an less sure you understand what you are claiming.
Let us only live off nature you say. Let the "weak" die.
If you are not willing to protect anything or anyone, not only the weak will die.. everyone will:P
If you put seeds in the ground, and do not protect them.. birds and other animals will eat most of it before it is usable for human consumption.
If you are more than a few families in one area, you will hunt it out.. no more boars.
I agree we should follow natures example in how to do things, but that doesnt mean we have to go completely stone age.. there are ways to work with nature, not against her, and still have some crops, and animals where we live.
And human babies are "weak" for several years, before they are able to care for themselves at all, and even more years before they are mature enough to leave home.
Old people become weaker in body, but they are still someone you love. And they have a life of knowledge that is valuable.
Everyone can be weak for a while.. and need help, that is what humans do well, help. If you dont want to help anyone.. then what good are you?
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@JesusIsComing1111
Dear " of the royal priesthood".. a mouthful that:P
Do not bother "praying". I am not angry.. why would I be? It is a book,, why waste energy being angry at a book?
I am baffled, that is true. Baffled that so many buy this horrid story.
Baffled that so many people push a book they clearly have not actually read. And by that I mean.. you guys read the nice parts, and pretend the bad parts isnt even there.
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Or, you say the nice parts are accurate, and the bad parts are just stories. In short, you make up excuses to enable yourselves to believe a fairytale.
Dont pray to a fantasy for me.. no point really, since.. if that wworked, if the book was real, I would be dead by now:P You know.. gods favourite way of punishing people.. even children.
Why do you support the killing of children?
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 “Whoever curses father or mother shall die” (Mark 7:10 NAB)
1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.
The murdering of children:
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@notcomatose6602 I agree with all you say, unless you mean reading the bible as some sort of support. I find the bible itself is a mixture of actual history mixed with grand stories of a god creature that is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful, and we are supposed to grovel on our kneed to that god.
In the bible that god kills 2 821 364 people himself, 25 000 000 if you add in the flood and other non-exact numbers. This is not a "good" god.
Being on your knees, groveling, is not a good way to be, it builds fear and weakness, not strength of character,.
The bible also claims that ALL authority is placed by god, and are to be obeyed. Obey, there is a lot of things to obey, not much freedom. If anything, the biblegod is fine with leaders treating people like shit, after all, they represent him.
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Memorize this then :Romans 13: 1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws,
Now explain to yourself how you dare being on this channel, and disobey.
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@philnicol8072 I agree with most of what you say, because they are the words of a reflecting human aware of self.
I fail to understand the need to "listen to jeusus" though. Sure, some things he is said to have said is fine, even positive, but other things are absolutely horrid.
While one can listen to a fellow human, and dismiss the bad, and take what is good, Jesus, is supposed to have never been wrong, and EVERYTHING he said is supposed to be obeyed ( I do not do obeying well).
I will judge as I see fit, this does not make me judgemental, just critical. I do not place myself above others and judge them, I simply see what i see, hear what I hear, and make a personal judgement . Others may refer to this as "forming an opinion based on current information."
As far as Jesus goes, I have no good feelings. Promoting human torture and bloodied sacrifice.. is that good? Human sacrifice is otherwise said to be bad.. but if god or jesus wants it, it is good? Not in my heart it is not. It is bad, period. Then going on to eat the flesh, and drink the blood, of the human jesus.. even if it is in the form of bread and wine, this is cannibalism by proxy. Another activity I can not support.
But this verse/demand alone, is enough to make me distance myself fully from any following of this "person " :Matthew 19:29 If you really loved Jesus then he insists that you abandon your wife and children for him. Only that way will he allow you to go to heaven. (That is if you meet his other hefty requirements, don’t slip through the loopholes, and ignore the contradictions.)
Be honest, be nice, use force only when absolutely needed ( self defense), and that is about all one needs.. no religious book of fear and doctrines needed.
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It used to be that families had to cooperate a lot more then today. Today the young move further away, most people have their own income, one way or another, being able to manage alone ( not all of this is bad, it just is a part of what makes families less dependant on each other).
Schools tell children things that are not true, and there is discord sown in every home. TV and other entertainment, promote lives that are near impossible to live for most people.. Beauty and other shallow things like that, means more than what a person is really like. Appearances you know. I am all for a divorce when a marriage does not work, but with the "me, me, me" attutude that is common now, with the lack of taking resposibility , and rather blaming everything else.. how are people supposed to manage a relationship?
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why would he.. Bjørn is being disobediant.
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws
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@Michael Rourke hmm, nope I am pretty sure he means meat as meat and blood as blood.
The bread and wine areonly symbolic... for meat and blood.
If he meant he was made of bread, he would have said that, would he not?
It is not me, again, it is the words of the bible that leaves no doubt. And to avoid the gross reality, most christians make up excuses that are nowhere to be found in the actual bible.
The bible also says very clearly, it is NOT to be interpreted, but to be read literally. It is already divinely inspired and any interpretation would falsify the word of god.
Some verses on cannibalism:
John chapter 6:53-55:
So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
See, no mention of bread or wine.
To any normal person, this sounds very much like the script of a gruesome horror film. It sounds like some sort of revolting satanic ritual. It definitely does not sound like the words of the all-loving creator of the universe.
This verse makes it clear that the bread and wine are symbolical flesh and blood.
Mark, Chapter 14:
And as they were eating, he took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them, and said, "Take; this is my body." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, and they all drank of it. And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.
"The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."
"Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
Exodus : To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children, Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15
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@carolmoore1038 yup, making excuses for a god murdering innocent people ( im sure there were a few bad guys in there)
"he can do what he wants" No , he can not, He can not do what he wants and still be called "good".
If you can not see that, then i feel really sorry for you. It is the same thing governments are doing now, they do what they want.. and people suffer. Only thing is.. god does it in the book.. governments do it in reality.
Worshipping some thing , that is admittedly cruel and narcissistic (does what he wants, when he wants), is.. beyond me.
In the bible, god kills 2 821 364 people that we can count. Add estimates, and you have 25 000 000. Add all the wars and deaths caused by people in gods name... and it becomes insane.
In the book, satan kills 10 that we can count, 60, including estimates. Oh, and the 10 were killed on a bet.. with god. Yeah.. book god doesnt give a crap about anyone. How you, or anyone else, can see this petty, little shit as something divine is astounding.
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@carolmoore1038 you need someone to put you in your proper place? On your knees, begging for salvation then?
And there is nothing in the bible that says god does not need worship, quite the contrary.. Can you find a timestamp on this one?
Deuteronomy 17:If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
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@carolmoore1038 Lol, well murder to me, is to kill people because you want to. God does that all the time. And even if you call it "killing" rather then "murdering", you are still in trouble :P
Remember this one ? " Thou shalt not kill"`?
But if we look at it closer.. it is not what it seems... It appears to be pretty straightforward, but if we look at the context in which this command was issued, we may want to clarify it somewhat. While under this law Moses, Joshua and the rest of the "chosen" killed millions of men, women, children and infants - nearly everyone they came in contact with (Num.31:7-18; Deut.2:34, 3:3-6, 20:13-17; Josh.6:21, 8:25-26, 10:28-41, 11:8-22; 1 Sam.15:3-8). So we must assume that the commandment might more accurately read - "Thou shalt not kill, unless directed to by a religious leader who has spoken with God." The penalty for killing (except in the name of God) is, well...death. Lev.24:17
So all you need to do, is kill in the name of god, and you are free of blame.. lol.. goodbye.. this is ridiculous.
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@carolmoore1038 I am not from USA, I guess that is what you mean when you say America? Or are you canadian? Cuban? Brazilian?
If you check, you will find there are as many religions as there are christians, not 2 have the exact same way of "understanding" that book, and hardly anyone has actually read it. Most of us that are actively against the book, has actually read it.
One does not have to be an anarchist to not believe the bible, or be for or against corporal punishment. One can not be an atheist, if one likes to blame "god said so" when applying torture or death on another human.
Absolute power is NOT held by a book god... I would belive he was ok, if he had done ANYTHING good, that was really big, and involved thousands of people.. but he never has, he only kills and makes threats.
And you are a woman.. not even allowed in heaven according to some.. If your father had sold you into slavery.. the bible would have approved.. nice huh. goodbye again, I will not read, or reply to any more you say.. we disagree on too much.
You support genocide, slavery, sex slavery, Even jesus is not pro life :P Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
You have to kill me now :)
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@FishyPOL hm, ok, I see we view things/have different experiences on a lot of subjects. I do not know if a discussion is going to lead anywhere. Gmos healthy? I would check who paid for those studies. There is plenty of evidence that they are very dangerous.
Politicians lead us because we elected them. I was born ( most of us were) into a political system we had no say in. It has never done anything but better the conditions for themselves, and not for the general population. They demand that your tax money goes into paying their salaries and activities, yet complain about the poor being greedy.
And do we elect anyone? Or are we given a few, allready choosen, to pick from? They are all controlled from above anyway, and you only experience freedom,, in the UK? What about Brexit?
If you only experience freedom, you are not among the poor, you are not without a home, you are not without work.. as in,.. you are not experiencing the downside of this political slavery, but are a happy, free range slave.. Sorry.
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@pauloshea1000 So, since this is a devestating pandemic, it is the main cause of death the last year, right?
Oh,a nd you may want to deduct a few from your numbers. since people who were allready dead and/or dying from other things, were noted down as covid deaths, the numbers are highly inflated.
And not all relatives agree with you. One I know, had her son put as covid death, he died in a car crash. They cant get the insurance, since the official death is covid.
And Bjørn still does not owe you anything. Being aware of a problem is not an automatic access to a solution that works anyway.
Example, we all know sugar causes obesity, cavities, lots of health issues. How would you deal with that?
My solution for that.. stop eating sugar, including sweeteners.
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Has anyone asked themselves WHY the powers that be, are so openly abusing their power these days?
Could it be that they know something we are not supposed to know? Like natural disaster cycles?
12000 years ago, and 12000 years before that and so on, the sun went micronova. This causes extreme changes to our world every time.
We are very close to the next one, 10 to 20 years away most likely. And leading up to the micronova, climate will get worse every year, solar flares and CMEs will effect us much more than they did just 50 years ago. That is why we now see auroras where they should not be, even if it is just a minor geomagnetical storm.
In a few years, maybe 5 or 6, maybe tomorrow, one of these solar outbursts will fry our electrical grid and send up back to the bronzeage. Ironage if you know a little about it. Stoneage for those that never learned anything about nature:P
This is plain science.... and would also explain why elites seem so intent upon building bunkers for themselvs. ( As if their mercenairy guards wont take over the bunker once something happens:P)
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@sherryberry6264 awsome, and I am sorry but I have a big problem believing you.
I have to ask, where do you live ? Where does any goverment NOT interfere with your comings and goings? Where can you fish and hunt, drive a car, add to your house without a license?
Do you work, and if so, do you pay taxes? I am not trying to be disresectful here, but honestly, I do not know of a single place where this is possible.. I do not know everything of course, so, please tell me?
Oh, and do you wear a mask these days?
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@Airblade90 it is very hard to tell them apart, jesus will let satan rule? So he doesnt give a shit about the people who are starving to death, or who are dying of loneliness allready?
Dont answer, i know he doesnt.
In the bible, satan kills 10 by his own hands. The "lord" kills a staggering 1.3 million, with his own hands (power). The lord then commands someone to kill another million or so in total.
This from a god who commanded "thou shalt not kill"????
Perhaps the book god is the anti crist, and the real one, is the love and decency you feel every day.
kneeling and groveling to avoid punishment from a fictional character? Nope, not me, I will keep standing, I do not grovel and whine to a mass murderer.
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@xMrjamjam not everyone needs to homestead, we also need people who can sow clothes, make shoes, craft items, create furniture. A community, a society, is a group of people working together, helping eachoter, yes, but more than anything, following THEIR own dreams of what they want to do.
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@vernugt Ok, but he/she has a point , no? A big mouthed politician, with no other skills than being able to talk in a persuasive manner.. gets a lot of followers ( the weak ones that are looking for someone to tell them what to do, so they dont have to think), this group then becomes a majority, and can decide over the rest of us. Thats the current democratic system. And it does not work. I never signed anything to give away my right of selfdetermination, yet I apparently did,.. by being born in a certain place and time.. how does that make sense? We are slaves.. we have no say.. and as long as we support the political system.. aka voting for liars and criminals, we will not see any freedom .. our votes doesnt matter btw.. they still do what they plan to do, they just change the name of the ppl we think will speak for us.. they never do.
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Freedom? We lost true freedom ages ago.. we are still free ranged though:)
Some are "freer" than others, but most are far less free than they think.. we are just used to it now.
Ask yourself.. what can you do without a permit of some sort?
Feeling respect and responsibility, should stop you from interfering with others, doing harm to others, stealing, beating, raping, etc.
"We can travel, when and where we want to" Freedom? No.. Free range. Inside your country, you can move around.. going anywhere else.. you need a passport , and you need a permit on top of that.
Vaccines. Know this about vaccines, and you can confirm it for yourself if you look for it.
1, they are not tested for fetus damage if you are pregnant
2, they are not tested for carcinogenes.
3. when tested for safety, the use the same adjuvant in both the vaccine and the placebo. Mostly it is the adjuvant that is dangerous.
4. safety tests lasts for 4 months tops. Not long enough for long term damage to appear.
5, efficacy tests last then for 6 months, but do not expose test subjects to the disease, they only check for antibodys.
6, Antibodys means 1 of 2 things. you either have some immunity, or you have become hyper sensitive.
Meaning : If you are exposed to the virus you were vaccinated for, you will get a lot sicker, a lot faster, than you would have if not vaccinated.
Anyone that has had the flu vaccine, may well be hyper sensitive now...to any corona virus. They will never inform you of this, meaning they LIE every time they say it is SAFE to take a vaccine.
As a side note.. having the flu vaccine when pregnant, increases fetal death probabilty over 4000 times.. think about it.
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@stuartcollett3252 :) Yes, we do seem to come from very different angles. What I tried to show you, while sticking to "official" sources, is that this is not what we are told it is. First of all, it is the seasonal flu, nothing more for most people. Some however ( very few, but some) have different symptoms , and a virus is not the cause. It has been known for quite some time ( decades), that viruses do not cause diseases. Try as they might, the 165 year old theory has not only NOT been proven, but viruses has shown themselves to be part of our immunesystem, not enemies of it.
We will not be let free again to go back to normal. the new controls will be kept active if we do not say enough already.
These measures, if you watched the video and/or , read the paper it referred to, will cost more lives than it saves. Children are dying of starvation as we speak. Jobs are lost , families ruined. No, there is nothing good or ok about these measures.. it is more than a lie.. it is murder.
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here is what god says on governments. After reading that, consider what you need to do, to get right with god. And before you say "but not bad governments" 1, the command gives no exceptions like that, and 2, the book also states clearly, that none of it is up for personal interpretation.
Romans 13: 1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey.
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@claudiasears3659 Romans 13: 1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey
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@blueskiesforever114 jesus spoke truth.
ok, I still dont see a reason to like the character.
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. (Matthew 10:34)
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@TheBernikov it is not based on christian rules.Those rules are very fluid , depending on who you talk to. To call it christian, you can not avoid the bible if you refer to more than one person at the time, and the bible was not kind at all in the past.. not until they started using the new testament, rather than the old one, in everyday church. But jesus scolds people who do not follow all commandments of the lord, INCLUDING those before the new testament. This means killing children if the swear to you, keeping slaves, just not the israeli favourite ( they can take anyone slave though). Killing anyone that does not believe in the christian lord, and toss in his village for good measure.. so on and so forth.
HUMANS made those differences in morality, it was the need of people to be less threatened with hell, and the need to love family and friends that caused the change.. no religion did that. Oh, jesus will send you to hell if you love your family more than you love him.,. does that make sense?`Christian values my sweet behind.
Human values , that is what they are..human.
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We do not "need" to start all over. we MAY be forced to. More and more evidence is showing huge natural destruction happens regularly, and sometimes this disaster is so big that maps have to be redrawn. They do not have to last long, but they can destroy civilizations. Think of all the empires that have been, and that are gone, only for people to fall back in development for a while. And this is not fear mongering.. it is information that has been withheld. A storm does not go away, just because we do not know about it, but if we are not forewarned, we are not prepared. They, the selfappointed elites dared to lie to us..for ages.
For anyone considering eating vegetables to protect nature.. look into the destruction monocropping is doing to our world. Huge fields of just one plant, is NOT natural. The plants we grow, can not even be found in nature. Monocropping kills more animals than the meat industry does ( and that is far from perfect). The amount of poisons used in growing these crops, kills everything around them, including waterliving creatures. Animals grazing is natural, even if they are modern animals, they behave naturally.
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@alexram14 Ja, det er sånne ting han mener. Jeg lagde bare et ekstremt eksempel fordi vi alle har en grense på hva som oppleves som overvåking og frihetsberøvelse.
Personlig opplever jeg at vi allerede lever i et politsamfunn, har gjort det i årevis. Joda, vi kan gå rundt fritt ( innafor norge, og med pass, innafor eu), vi kan besøke folk, og gå på fylla om vi vil.
Men om du er avhengig av systemet av en eller annen grunn, og ikke har egne midler, da ligger du tynt an.
Mange sier da at jeg er heldig som har et system som vil passe på meg, og så blir de sure fordi min uførhet koster dem skattepenger.
Jeg var ikke alltid ufør, jeg har betalt skatt jeg og, skatter også av uførepengene:P
Vet du, at under nav, så har man ikke lov til å (teknisk sett), flytte til en bolig uten innlagt vann og bad? De insisterer på en viss standard. At man kanskje ønsker en mer primitiv livvstil er nav ikke åpen for. Noen anv ansatte har mer hjerterom, og kan godta det, bare sp det er sagt, men det er imot navs regler.
Miljøpartiet og kommunister.
Politikere er alle av samme ulla, de er sikre på at de vet bedre enn oss, hvordan vi skal leve våre liv.. og når de får litt makt, så er de villige til å gå over lik for å presse det igjennom.. spiller ingen rolle hvilket parti det er. høyre eller venstre er to vinger på samme fugl. Alle lands myndigheter er styrt av de samme store selskapene, som er eid av noen få familier.
Hvorfor trenger vi å "bli styrt"? er vi barn?
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@robertmyatt2755 The Lord is clear.. I assume you have no problem leaving your family for the lord then? "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:35-27)
So believing in God, according to the Bible, is like a life-or-death game of Family Double Dare, only instead of having color-coded teams it's every man (woman and child) for themselves.
Jesus you say? Do you know he is NOT the messiah? Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:
1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.
2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.
3) Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.
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@robertmyatt2755 So.. god creates all humans.. then plays favorites.. only the ones that grovel, gets benefits.. Sounds rather narcissistic to me, sorry, I guess we will not agree.
As a parent myself, I support all my children, If they f up( we all do at times), they have to face the consequnces, but how much I love them, does not depend on how much they grovel to me.. They are my children.. I love them, no matter what.
God is a lousy father figure, who condones, even commands, too many deaths of children to be of a sound and healthy mind I think.. Dudes nuts o.0
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@Sheryl_Redmond Here is something else Romans 13: 1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws,
Oh and the family part.. dont love them too much, god does not approve, and jesus doesnt like it at all.Matthew 19:29 If you really loved Jesus then he insists that you abandon your wife and children for him. Only that way will he allow you to go to heaven. (That is if you meet his other hefty requirements, don’t slip through the loopholes, and ignore the contradictions.)
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I hope you are not talking about the bible god. No values there that people did not have from before, but a lot of commands to follow with a threat of death or hell if you disobey. Still no freedom of personal choice, still men ruling women, and fathers allowed to sell their daughters as slaves, if you obey the bible.
The bible god commited several genocides, and is a mass murderer.. not a value in my mind, but a threat. Do you know how many people the bible god kills in the book alone?
Religion is NOT e unifier, but another way of controlling people a, and dividing people into "them" and "us" kind of thinking.
Keep your god and your beliefs to yourself, how do you expect strangers to know better then you, how you are supposed to live? How can you not trust the divine , but only a book?
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@Matty18795 it could be a lot of things, true.
One thing it also could be, is this.
A natural disaster cycle is reaching its peak, and is about to hit with full force. They have their bunkers, we do not have any, but it is surviveable even when you dont.
They dont want a lot of survivors, so the effect of this jab is 2 fold. 1, the scampemid is keeping people from looking around and understand that something is happening other than whats on the news, and 2, the jab will kill a lot, so the number of survivors will be significantly reduced.
This way, when they exit the bunkers, they can "save" the rest and be forever slavemasters to a controlled group of slaves.
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@TMWRPJAYMZ Currently I am not afraid I will be arrested for leaving my house.. that has not been activated here yet.. with luck, it never will. It is not, however, lacking in neither context nor perspective. In India, people are beaten by police, if they are thought to have the virus. ( We all have some coroona virus :P), this happens in several other counties as well. In sweden, they do not even have a lockdown, and everything is fine there,. In England, on march 19, they downgraded the severety of the virus, yet 4 days later, they upped the lockdown.
You may find me hysterical, I find you far too willing to give up our freedom. But thats just me i guess:)
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they are not just over reacting, they are lying to begin with. Yes it is the flue season, and the flu type corona is nothing bad at all this year. Then you have the other corona caused by 5g, that leaves you unable to get oxygen from your red cells. This is the really dangerous part.
Viruses do not cause illness, try as they might, it has never been proven in the 165 years of germ theory. later science shows viruses to be an important part of our immunesystem, made by our own bodies. It is too expensive , in multiple ways, for them to admit this, just imagine.. every single vaccine would be redundant ( they are, they never worked as claimed, they just destroy the body.)
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Believing politics is anything more than a game, played by some rather sick people, using us ordinary people as pawns, is what has to stop.
Adherence to natural law is fine, adherence to man made laws ( read government made laws), is maybe something to question.
The current baseline in governance is winning the game and getting the biggest chair for a while... done by telling people lies and half truths, and making fake promises.. seeing who gets more votes.. and win.
When the nonsense comes from the top.. we have to remove the top. I must admit, I have problems seeing a peaceful solution to this, but perhaps a lot of small and local wars to remove our owners/governments, is better.. than a full out ww3.
We need to be able to live well, without the insane need to control everyone else, but also not allowing others to control you. Live a life not harming anyone with what you do, and helping where you can.. is principal enough. Bring back honor of truth and honesty..
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