Comments by "Goldenhawk583" (@Goldenhawk583) on "Modern History TV"
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@ModernKnight Thank you for asking:) And let me start with saying that i see you are a good rider, and do not use much pressure on the reins.. But :) In the horses mouth, there is a gap between the teeth in the lower jaw, where the bit usually rests. The bone holding the teeth in the back of the jaw, as in, the bone that gets the pressure from the bit, is very sharp, so any pressure at all here, will cause pain, intended or not. The arch on the mouthpiece will, every time you pull on the reins, go up into the papllate of the horse, and he can not avoid this without openeing his mouth. I appreciate you having no noseband to keep his his mouth shut, this does help a bit:) You can see Ghost spending quite a bit of time rearranging his bit every time you loosen the grip on the reins, not stopping until he feels comfortable in his mouth. He opens his mouth a lot when you are leading him with rein pressure, a clear sign he is not comfortable, even if he is not in high levels of pain, you are too good of a rider for that, luckily:) Using a lever kind of bit, with a curb, as well as the long shanks for the reins, causes a huge buildup of pressure , even when being light on the hand. Ghost looks very mild tempered, and also very well trained, I am sure he would do very well using a bosal headgear, rather than a bit one.. this also has to be used gently ofc, but would cause no mouthpain. It would be very interesting to see you try this out, as I am sure you are a man that does care about horses in general, and we do need people like you to show it is possible to go no bit and still get good results:) Many of our habitual ways with horses come from times when they did not think all that much about the animals welfare.. control being more important than patience and training. Understanding the animal was not really up there on the to do list for riding., getting the animal to do what you wanted it to do was more important. Today we can afford to make different choices. Horses can be controlled just fine with training and time, and respect, and I can see you are obviously willing to to do that, so , atleast for the interest of trying something new... could you consider trying a bosal? Would be awesome :)
Edit : Must add that I love your series, since I got over the shock of seeing you actually read my comment, lol
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@ModernKnight Again, I really appreciate your feedback :) As with any headgear on a horse, a bosal must be used with care, your lighthanded ways would do very well, any rough handling would cause problems. No bit, is no excuse to use heavy hands. If you can handle some rough language, "Think like a horse" has a channel that describes bits versus bosal very well, and also how to correctly fit , and use, a bosal.. Like you he is very caring about his horses, and has a good report with them:) Thank you for a great series on medival times, I love that part of history ;)
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@canreffy First, thank you, yes it was the word i was looking for :) then... Uhm. I would never recommend something unless I thought they had good information. And you are obviously someone who has gotten his annoyance with barnwitches totally wrong. He is not anti woman, he is anti idiot.. there is a difference. So, he does not know every custom around the world, and he is not an expert on every humanchosen trait in every horsebreed. So what, everyone has more to learn, do you know all there is to know about horses?
In all the things you mention, you prove yourself to be on the human side of things,, not the horse side of things. Is he against the gait of the tennessee walking horse? No, BUT he IS against the horrid methods used to force these horses to have an exaggarated gait. In other words, if something comes natural to a horse, its ok, if it has to be forced to get good results in competitions, he is against it. And I agree, cruelty is NEVER ok. So what if hes arrogant, i find him amusing:P ( and I am female) :P And no matter ,where you are in the world, a horse is a horse is a horse. An akhal -tekhe has the same general layouts physically as a shetland pony.. You speak as if stockhorses are somehow .. inferior, and this is really not true..it is also arrogant to speak that way:P
Helmets, Again , you missed the point. It is not the wearing of safetyequipment that is wrong, it is how we think about it,, wearing a helmet does NOT make us better riders, but a lot of riders feel a false sense of security when they put one on, and take bigger risks because of it. compares well to being bad at driving cars, but thinking that putting the safetybelt on makes us good enough to drive at high speeds. By all means, wear your equipment, dont bother with being insulted, he is just a man, his opinion will not hurt you. In fact, in my country, it is illegal to ride without a helmet, so we have to if we like it or not. Just dont think for a second that the equipment makes a difference in your horsemanship.
He promotes learning as much as you possibly can about your horse, and to teach your horse how to deal with difficult situations, and how to react in a crisis. when is that ever wrong? He promotes thinking for yourself, rather than blindly believe anyone ( including himself), and when is that ever wrong? If i read the comments on his channel correctly, and having read a lot of them, i think I do, he has taught a lot of people to be better, and safer, riders. Saving a lot of horses a lot of misery in the process. Stop being butthurt over hurt feelings, and listen to the message. A horses bloody gait means diddlysquat if you cant ride properly, and read your horse. A horse is also still a horse if it dragging a cart in Mumbai, grazing on the plains of Mongolia, or being trained in Lipizza. Bits are still not good, tradition doesnt equal correct or optimal for the horse, we can all try to do better.. Be well, and stop getting so flustered, :D
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So, he is human, and makes some mistakes. Like not knowing every breed there is, and not knowing every riding and driving rule in every country there is. I still think you are shooting the messenger and ignoring the message. If the law says you have wear a helmet.. wear it... simple.. but one can still be aware of oneself as a rider, As in, do I dare do this because i am wearing a helmet, or because I think I am skilled enough to do it even without a helmet. Where I live, we too are forced by law to wear one.. ( Parental governments that look out for us are so great.. soon we wont have to think at all:D).
Most people are not top riders, with top horses.. I never was, BUT i have worked as a stablehand for some of those people and cared for their horses. That was before I ever heard of Rick Gore, and I thought these people had to know what they were doing.. but working there convinced me they did not really know.. or more correctly, they did not really care. Dont get me wrong, they were nice enough people, but their treatement of horses and the reasons for it, were... well, it just did not sit right with me. To avoid injuries to their very expensive horses, they were kept locked up and a stall all the time, except for when ridden.. and they wore padding all over. That would be a boring life for any horse. When they got scared, and acted up, they got beaten severely by their rider, until they obeyed.. sweating profusely, extremely twitchy and wildeyed..and just punished for being a horse and not a machine. These people people, nice to humans as they were.. seems to belong to the group your creds puts you in, and I am sure they would agree with every word you say. Did they not take care of their horses? Depends on the eye who sees I guess, they did give great food, roomy boxes and good quality tack, provided vet care and so on.. One of their priced horses ended up dying from colic in spite of the vet being called.. I wonder if some time at pasture every day could have prevented that.. hmm..
So.. being a high up rider ( in dressage and such), impresses me like not.. in fact , it tells me that old ideas and ingrown habits, might play a huge part in the skill level of such people. ( no offense). Like Rick Gore, I too have met mostly women who are bothersome knowitalls when it comes to horses.. they are unpleasant, and will report you to animal welfare for anything THEY deem wrong, whether it is wrong or not, aka barnwitches. At some point you jest get fed up with them, and that is clear in his videoes.. I agree with him, that in way too many riding barns, the environment is rather toxic and unpleasant... and I have worked in a few and know he is correct in that. Working with horses as in feeding them, mucking out, bringing them in and out to pasture, tacking, and so on.. gives you an other way to get to know them, than the owners who come in.. give them a brushup and rides out. Horses that were happy to see me every morning, got stressed and agitated ( not all of them), when owners arrived for a ride.
I am glad t hear that you are doing what you can to stop the abusive treatement of horses, TWH in particurlar.. that is great and I am honestly glad. I am not saying you are a bad horse person.. All I am saying is is that even people we dislike ( and noone can like everyone), even they might have good information. So I am not defending Ricks every statement.. I am defending his right to be human and make some mistakes. I think he is correct that the the majority of barnwitches are indeed female. I think he is correct about bits being a bad thing for just about every horse, and that correct training and conditioning would make bits not needed in most cases. I think he is correct in iron shoes being a bad thing for every single horse, and that we , us smart humans, need to find other ways to do this.. and a lot has allready been done here.. And I agree, from personal experience, that high level dressage/jumping/running etc, is NOT good for horses, and is all about humans.
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