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@Peter Gaskin
It never came to an agreement, because the USA were demanding, that the EU27 accept imports of chlorinated chicken, gen manipulated crops, hormon boosted beef (all without the duty of declaring those issues) and that US companies can claim each EU member state for a "loss of profit", in case EU laws/ regulations might/are changing, so a US company "might had to change its product, or can't/ couldn't export it to the EU27 anymore (even though this "product" would not exist yet, when EU changed anything, it would have been a "free ticket" for US companies permanently claiming), therefor the US companies could claim for compensation any time.
The EU27 negotiators simply didn't accept any of those demands.
So if the UK/GB is hoping for an trade deal with the USA, it will have to accept all of these demands, or there won't be a deal, simple as that.
Greetings from the EU
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Oh dear....😂
The UK is NATO member, same as most EU and EFTA member states...
Joining "the EUs SM/EEA" is for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
The UK has the TCA...
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
Right now the EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available for the UK is applying for full EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST..
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment..
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria..
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@binkyboobosh1 Problem only is, there is no "re-joining the SM", because:
only two options are available, either EFTA or full EU membership.
Norway (EFTA) is stating since years, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA, as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Access to the SM always and only comes with the four freedoms (free movement of goods, people, services, capital, within the EU), accepting the European High Court and paying the membership fee = full EU membership.
Just "joining" the SM never ever existed, as it was just the "fairy tale dream/ cherry picking" of the Brexiteers, either because of not understanding, how the EU works, or because they thought, the UK/GB is too special, or both.
And to join the EU as full member again, the UK/GB has to apply as every other country, which wants to become an EU member, by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, still every of the EU27 member states can veto the UK/GB joining the EU, and after that the UK/GB might get the status as an "candidate for EU membership", then the negotiations with the EU27 might start, all of that could take decades.
No "fast track", no exceptions for any country in the world, as stated recently by the EU Commission, not even for the Ukraine being at war.
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@ChristopherFynn001 The problem/ misunderstanding most Brits have until now is, the thought of "just being in the SM = soft Brexit", would "sort it", eventhough "this version" never existed.
Either full EU membership or EFTA, those are the available options. The "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore, as stated by EU Commission, because off to "much hustle".
The EFTA (Norwegian modell) isn't available either, as Norway has stated since 2016 until today, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
While the Brexit negotiations went on, the British negotiators were demanding continiusly and exactly that: full access to the SM without the duties coming with it (four freedoms - free movement of goods, people, services, capital), the payment of the "member fee" plus accepting the European High Court. Not understanding, that the SM is the core/ heart of the EU and therefor highly protected. Btw, the EU27 offered up to the end of the transition period/Brexit negotiations, that if wanted, the UK/GB could stop the Brexit, which the UK/GBs Gvt permanently refused.
"Reversing/re-joining isn't an option either, as there isn't a "fast track" for any country in the world, not even for the Ukraine being at war. Therefor the UK/GB has to follow the procedures for joining the EU: receive an EU "application form including a very long list of issues which have to be fulfilled/Copenhagen Criteria" by then hopefully non of any of the other EU27 member states have vetoed the UK/GB to join the EU, and only then you might get the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the real negotiations with the EU would start, which could take decades.
Btw, there is severe education needed about the EU, how it works and what it's for, should start already at school.
If you're interested, read about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe" and his idea of an European Union, which started in the 1920s.
Greetings from the EU
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@Kasper It's not up to the UK/GB to "rejoin", it's the EU27s decision to wether send an invitation with a long list of "things" which have to be fulfilled to reach the status as a "EU membership candidate", then, if the required things/=EU standards are fulfilled, the negotiations for EU membership can start (could take decades), and only then, if no EU member vetoes, the UK/ GB could be an EU member again. As a third country no other way around, no fast track because of being an ex EU member, no exceptions possible either.
On top of that, after bashing the EU for 40 years there is education needed, about how the EU works and what it is all about, otherwise it doesn't make sense at all, and with the next elections Brexit 2.0 could happen.
Btw, the EU never was an "economic block", but first of all a peace project, which is using trade as one of aspects to keep peace in between the European country's, but also the FOM is doing its work, bringing peace, friendship, solidarity (hopefully) and better understanding of each other into the European family.
Greetings from the EU 😉
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@ david cousins I'm sorry to say, there is no "Swiss deal" available anymore, stated by EU Commission, because off "too much hustle". EFTA or full EU membership are the only options.
Norway (EFTA) stated since 2016 until now, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining EFTA, as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
"Reversing/re-joining" the EU isn't possible either, stated by EU Commission: no "fast track" for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine, being at war.
Therefor the following procedures will/have to take place: the UK/GB has to ask for the EUs "application form" which comes with a very long list of issues following the CopenhagenCriteria, which have to be fulfilled. If by then non of any of the EU27 member states has vetoed the UK/GB joining the EU, the UK/GB might get the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the real negotiations with the EU start, which could take decades.
No exceptions for any country in the world.
Forgot to say: there is severe education needed about the EU, how it works and what it's all about, should allready start at school. If you're interested, have a look up about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe" and his idea of an European Union, which started in the 1920s.
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@lellyparker Five years ago the EU27 negotiators offered ALL available deals/treaties/modells to the UK/GB, which the British Gvt refused vehemently all the time, because:
the British negotiators were demanding continiously full access to the SM without any of the coming duties with it, which is the case with all of the mentioned before treaties (Swiss modell, Norwegian modell = EFTA).
This was the attitude, the EU is calling:cherry picking/ fairy tale dream of the Brexiteers.
Meanwhile the "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore, as stated by the EU Commission, because of "too much hustle". And Norway (EFTA) is stating since 2016, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA, as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
The only option is joining the EU as a full member, but therefor the UK/GB has to go the official way like any other country now, applying for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria. No "fast track", no exceptions for any country in the world, as the EU Commission stated recently, not even for Ukraine, being at war.
Greetings from the EU
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@binkyboobosh1 NO.
It doesn't matter, if you or the UK/GB "do or don't accept" the four freedoms, as they are always coming along with the all mentioned before issues:
SM, four freedoms, paying the membership fee, accepting the European High Court = full EU membership.
That or none of it, no "cherry picking" or exceptions for any country in the world, as the SM is the core/heart of the EU and therefor highly protected.
Btw, the EU27 are fine without the UK/GB. The EU27 has moved on, Brexit is no subject anymore, as written before, infact the EU27 have progressed quite well since Brexit.
Being "usefull for the EU" is no criteria for anything.
For your better understanding of how the EU works and what it's for I recommend to look up for Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe" (born in Luxembourg, then German, later French), who's idea of the European Union started in the 1920s.
Greetings from the EU
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@terrydaktyllus1320
To "re-join" no negotiations are needed, but it goes like that only:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership ", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (if not done properly, joining process stops instantly), which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU is about 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, they know about the needed timespan due to experience of other countries joining process.
At the moment the UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria.
Also needed urgently in the UK is education about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament (with PR) and its democratic elected MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens, otherwise the UKs electorate might vote "leave" again at the following GE, and the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0 " again.
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@horatio8213
It's all available in the Inet, which all of us are using here...
Giving you a hint... first one was agreed 1945, that the NEW Polish-German border will be the
"Oder-Neisse-border", while Poland would loose territory to Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, because Russia wanted that Polish land.
Compensation for those Polish losses on its eastern borders would be the German territories on its western borders.
Those new borders, which were decided by the Allies, got confirmed various times again, 1970, 1989, 1990....
Germany lost 20% of its eastern territory to Poland, those territories were East-and West Pomerania, Silesia.
Btw, before doing the usual "German bashing", it might enlighten you, to look up about your own history about the so called "British Empire = invading, occupation, so called colonialism", which had cost about 165 million peoples lifes....
nothing really, to be "proud about" either...
Add on: it's like with the NIP/Windsor agreement, when the UKs Gvt would "leave" the ECHR, the TCA and the NIP/Windsor agreement would be "crashed" as well, because being in the ECHR is part of the TCA and NIP/Windsor agreement.
Same goes for those International treaties, those agreed borders are fixed, if one gets "moved", the other borders agreed in those treaties would be
"at the disposal" again...
Greetings from the EU27 🇪🇺🖐
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@emm_arr 🙄
The Treaty of Rome in 1957 set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a common market based on the free movement of goods, people, services and capital".
The EU27 are a ever evolving and developing peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
The UK is NOT a founding member...
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@billyhughes805 First of all: a bit more respect, Mr Nobody, please!
I don't talk on behalf of anybody, but, opposit to the British public it seems, we as EU citizens are mostly quite well informed, because the EU Commission is stating quite regular recent issues/decisions, like for example that one, I mentioned : no fast track, no exceptions, stated some weeks ago by Ursula v d Leyen.
Guy Verhofstadt is a very ambitioned politician, when he was in London joining the "re-joining march", he really and only spoke on his behalf, btw, this is, what he is doing since years.
Aside from that nobody else of EU politicians is talking about that subject, I'm sorry to say.
It's also common over here in the EU, to watch the EU Parliament on TV/ Inet when working, same as with National Parliaments.
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@philjames6206 It might sound cold hearted, but there were times in the last six years, where messages from the EU Commission appeared in the media, saying, that "the EU has other and more important things to do then just spinning around Brexit".
Diplomatic speak for : "enough is enough".
The EUs negotiators were very patient with the UK/GB while the Brexit negotiations and offered up to the last minute all variants including to stop the whole Brexit = everything is as before, but the British negotiators were refusing all of those well meant offers, therefor: NO, the books are closed, Brexit is done, that's it (btw, also stated by the EU Commission).
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The "Russian nat gas issue" has been sorted already in August 2022, Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands have taken over from Russia with delivering nat gas to the EU27 prices are below to the prices before the war.
The EU27 are doing ok, Brexit isn't even an issue anymore either...
Btw = every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
One of the criteria is to have a national debt of max 55-60 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently, hence the UK needs to grt rid off about £ 1 trillion debts...that'll take quite a while...
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
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@petelucas51
Forgot to say, eventhough Ukraine is experiencing the "Russian special military operation" since 2022, the EU27 didn't let it join the EU27, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times "no fast track, no opt outs, no exceptions, no cherry picking , for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine being at war"...
Ukraine received the staus as a "candidate for EU membership", but it still will take about 10-15 years AFTER the war started, until Ukraine can join the EU27..
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@DilanPerera1
Well, the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades...
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently...
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
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@billyhughes805 Me again 😉
I can understand your anger about this situation, you're stuck in. What makes me wonder, when various EU citizens and others are telling the people here, whats possible and what not, which is ment to clear the situation of Brexit Britain, to avoid that the people have hope for solutions which don't even exist. So at least you have a chance to adjust to this, yes terrible, situation.
"My" London born spouse had to go through application for dual citizenship over here, half of our family are Brexiteers, so it's not like cheap talk from EU Continent, like most of the EU citizens here are involved in this drama.
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@Billy Hughes 😉
The British Gvt did a "proper job",
getting dual citizenship was only possible while the UK/GB was an EU member, after Brexit not possible anymore, you have to "give up" your British citizenship.
We extra went to an lawyer for immigration rights, and she told us about that and recommended to hurry up with the application, which we did. The German Gvt extra installed a "fast track" for Brits, meaning, the from all authorities and institutions needed check ups were done parallel and not one after the other, therefor it only took 2 months instead of up to six.
The communities were also writing letters to all Brits, informing them about the consequences of Brexit.
30% more than normal applied for dual citizenship, all of them were Brits.
All the best to you and have a nice Christmas as well 😉
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You mean, when 10 countries at once joined the EU (Poland, Bulgaria, Romania etc)?
Yes, "the EU" member states had agreed on a "transition period" of, I think, up to seven years, where every EU member state could hinder/deny access of the "new EU citizens" into each EU member states markets (labourship, social systems etc), to avoid an "overload".
ALL of the then (old) EU member states were using it, apart from: the UK/GB...
It got warned upfront, but again: no experts were needed 😎
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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NO.
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Btw, ALL EUs member states were ready the day AFTER Brexit happened, and are doing the needed customs/border/vet check ups for UK imports !!
And it wasn't "UK suggesting, to fix NIP issues", but the EU27 "suggested" it, in order to protect the EUs SM/EEA/CU !!
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Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
Right now the EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Pretty clear statement that is 😂
About SM/EEA/CU membership = it's available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable!!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST...
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NO.
It doesn't go like that...since Brexit the UK has to check its EU imports at its border = as its the duty of each country/UK, to do the check ups, NOT THOUGH the exporting countries/EU27...
And of course exporters from EU27 member states know that and not every company might be honest, and could try to sell stuff into the UK, which by law should rather be destroyed at the costs of that company...
Even those containers, arriving at Continental EU ports, which get passed on to UK, don't get checked anymore = they just get "waved through" towards the UK = as the UK is a 3rd country now !!
That was different, when UK was EU member state = ALL containerships, which arrived at the Continental EU ports got checked, including those for the UK, as it was EU member state....
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@grizcuz 😉 Well, I hope, I'm not too average, I've got some insurances, but yes, it looks like, that us Germans like insurances LOL.
To be honest, it was one of my collegues who recommended to me to join the union, after I had a really bad experience with one of my employers (beforehand), who decided from one day to the next not to pay the waiges to any of us employees. Therefor I had to get a lawyer, went to court, won of course and: had to pay for my lawyer, as it's civil law/right, which, as I was young, didn't know.
I thought, I won, the one who lost has to pay. After I joined the union I had two more claims for my waiges (various years later) and I have to say, the lawyers the union has are brilliant, I can call up for anything, they do a fantastic job over here !!
Opposit to a "normal" insurance company the unions are acting on your behalf and are supporting you with all their knowledge and power.
Coming back to insurances "gg", as Germany has, as far as I know, the oldest existing welfare/social care system world wide, which got installed in 1887 (health-, social-, unemployment-, retirement- insurance), it might be, that that is part of our "DNA" somehow.
I wish you a happy new year with lots of health and all the best for 2023 😉
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@martinbennett2228 I'm sorry to say, that there is no option available to just "join the SM", it never was and never will be, as the SM is the "core/heart" of the EU and therefor highly protected.
The only two options available are EU full membership or EFTA.
The "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore, as stated by EU Commission, because of "too much hustle". And Norway (EFTA) is stating since 2016 until today, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA, as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
The EU Commission stated recently, that a "fast track" joining the EU isn't available, for no country in the world, not even for Ukraine, being at war. No exceptions for any country in the world.
For joining the EU, the following procedures have to be done: asking for the application form coming with a very long list of issues which have to be fulfilled/Copenhagen Criteria, hopefully non of the EU27 member states veto the UK/GB joining the EU, then becoming the "status as a candidate" for joining the EU and only then the real negotiations with the EU would start, which could take decades.
The "version = just being in the SM" never existed, it was the "fairy tale/cherry picking" dream of the British Gvt, which they were demanding continiusly while the Brexit negotiations, not understanding, that access to the SM only and always comes with the duties of the four freedoms (free movement of goods, people, services, capital), the payment of the "member fee" and acceptance of the European High Court.
Greetings from the EU
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@emm_arr
Again = "the EU" is a ever evolving and developing peace project, based on the "Schuman plan", ALL what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU and the creator of the "Schuman plan".
Robert Schuman/French Minister, and Friedrich Ebert/first President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the1920, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union, unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925.
As written before = the SIX founder members are Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, wether you like it or not.
The UK tried three times to join, but was refused to join...
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@emm_arr
So the UK only "joined the EU in 1992? Brilliant, all the other decades, it was a member of it, didn't happen 😂
Same goes for the UK, it exists since September 2021 only, as that was the date, when numberplates had to be renamed from GB to UK 😂
Neither the EU want the UK back, nor it's a founder member, you clever smart 😂
Right now the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership...and various EUs member states would veto the UK joining the EU again 😂
As it's the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when 😂
And again the = Treaty of Rome in 1957 = "sets up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a common market based on the free movement of goods, people, services and capital".
Thanks for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 👋
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Leaving the EU27 AUTOMATICLY INCLUDES leaving the EUs SM/EEA and CU.... because =
EEA Agreement= SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126 !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently.
EVERY EU member state has the right to veto the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining the EU.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine being at war, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years.
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@EdJames-tb9oz 🙄
And you have a problem with reading AND understanding at the same time !!
Again = EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Sneaking in by the back door isn't possible, the UK is a 3rd country = 3rd country rules apply !!
FOM is part of the EUs SM/EEA , and can't be cherry picked nor separated, as it's always = FOM for people, goods, services and capital..
This exception of a visa IS NOT FOM, but just a visa for up to four years in ONE country of any of the EU27 member states to either study, work or take an apprenticeship for Brits aged 18-30 years IN THAT ONE country only !!
After that the Brit has to leave that country, or apply for permit residency, if fulfilling the needed criteria...
It's up to the EU27 only as well as to the EFTA member states ONLY, to decide, which country can join either of them and when, but NOT up to the UK to decide..
Norway and Iceland are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Joining the EU the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST, right now the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership...
EVERY EU member state has the right to veto the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining..
Joining the EUs SM needs permission of all 31 EU and EFTA member states..and again = ONE veto is enough..
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@philipcrossley1279 So, you wrote, that you don't have problems with that (that it could take decades until the UK/GB is back in the EU).
Now you're saying (to the other person), that most of the EU citizens are just "stating their oppinion, but not real facts".
Hmmm, all you have to do is to look up at the EUs Commission site, there you'll see, that what many of the EU citizens here are talking about ARE the facts and NOT just their oppinion.
Opposit to the UK/ GB over here in the EU most EU citizens are pretty well informed about the EU,
as the EU Commission regularly is shown on TV/ online, the EUs Parliament gets shown on TV/ Inet when important issues have to be sortet, and the EU Commission is regularly doing statements, like the one about the UK/ GB "re-joining" the EU, as I stated before: no fast track, no exceptions for any country in the world.
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@Nice0n3
Just some facts about the recent status quo =
The UK still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27 5 years ago.
This is why the EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Some time ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The slogan "closer alignment" made by Starmer, made the EUs Commission to "test" the seriousness behind that, hence offered the youth mobility deal to the UK....which was partly refused, instead the UK wanted opt outs by excepting some of the 27 EUs member states to be part of the youth mobility deal...
That was proof enough for EUs Commission, how serious the UK is about "closer alignment"...
The EU27 are aware , that UK is trying to sneak into EUs SM/EEA/CU from the back door...as stated already by Barnier, who gave advice to the EU27 about that issue, considering his experience with the UK at the Brexit negotiations...
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@aliservan7188 😂
Oh dear...here some facts for you =
ALL EUs steel mills received €billions of subsidies, to build their own windmills/electrolyseurs and arc furnaces to produce green steel in the near future.
Airbus Bremen is developing hydrogen powered airplanes in cooperation with the Ariane Group space technologies Bremen, the goal is focused on 2035.
ALL newly build LNG terminals are convertable for hydrogen.
Daimler trucks and the Faun Group have developed hydrogen powered trucks/vehicles, which are already in use since years.
2022 the worlds first 14 hydrogen powered trains (Alstom) started their service in Lower Saxony/Germany.
The EU27/Germany will replace all fossil fuels (oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Hydrogen can be used as storage battery for the overloads from the offshore windmills and others as well as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc as well.
Lits of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities as well.
Electrolyseurs are under construction everywhere as well.
Please look up for the "clean hydrogen coast line", a project run by the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany, Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven is involved as well.
Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven = hydrogen lab
It's on the way...
UKs railway network = 18.500 km
Germany's railway network = 39.200 km
Highspeed net = 6.600 km
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It never will happen, as it's not available for 3rd countries, but for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
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Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership...
January this year the "passporting" went back into the EU27, June 2025 the "Euroclearing" will be back in the EU27, then Brexit is complete, as the transition period of FOM for capital ends June 2025.
This is a huge loss for the City of London, as those financial services are making up about one third of worlds market for clearing services = a value of £ 260 trillion per year.
Starmer wanted to meet U v d Leyen beginning/middle of September, EUs Commission told him, that that would be possible earlist end of October or rather later...
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@smokeango Correct.
Therefor VW is/ has developed the " solid battery", which is without Lithium (please look up for the details). Those solid batteries will be build in the new VWs from 2024 on.
I don't see nuclear power as green energy, and the radioactive waste is acitive partly up to a hundredthousand years, I've looked up for that sort of time span, if we'd go "backwords", we would be at the Neanderthal's.
Those solid batteries have a much longer "life time", driving distance is about 40ish % more, and isn't as "sensible" about temperatures either.
The process of progressing engineering towards "going green" hasn't stopped yet.
In case you're interested, please look up for the "green hydrogen coast line", a project run by the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany, all subsidiesed by the EU and Gvts.
Greetings from Germany 😉
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@johnrussell3961 I'm really sorry to say, but neither the Saxons nor the Anglo's came from Sibiria, believe me, as I also know a bit of our (Germanic) history. As said before, the Celts weren't one folk, but many different tribes in certain regions around todays Austria, Switzerland, North Italy, parts of todays France and the British Islands.
The word "Germanic" was made up by the Romans, as they declared all tribes living off the right side of the river Rhine as Germanic. The Germanics didn't call themselfs that, like the so called Celts neither. The, so called "Vikings"were by the view of the Romans also a Germanic tribe, coming from the regions of todays Sweden/Denmark, which were expanding towards Russia today (Rus). The Baltics are a side line of Indogermanic tribes, everything to the east of that are Slavic tribes, if you want to go back for 2000 years or more. Btw, partly some of North American tribes came over from Sibiria, but definetely not the Saxons and Anglo's, I've just done some research.
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It's the importing country, which is doing the check ups...not though the exporting countries...the UK always used to be a bit ...about that, even when being in the EU...difference then : the EUs Continental ports were doing the checks, before the goods for the UK were past on towards the UK...
..this doesn't happen anymore now, goods for the UK just get "waved through" at EU ports...
Notice: the UK doesn't have ports, which can handle those huge container ships, therefor all those goods for the UK, always go via Rotterdam, Antwerp, Bremerhaven, Hamburg, where goods for the UK get reloaded on smaller container ships...but still unchecked, as that is the duty of the importing country = the UK 😊
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@katywalker8322
Well, the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
EVERY EU member state has the right to veto the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining.
The UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), which could take decades..
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
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Being in the SM is available only for EU members and EFTA members, not though for 3rd countries. Same goes for FOM.
Norway/EFTA stated various times since years, that it'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available is full EU membership.... estimated time needed for joining the EU are 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
The UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria at the moment.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
No opt outs, no exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times...
The "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore either as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, because they don't want that "hassle" anymore...
ALL EU member states have the right to veto the UK joining the EU, ONE veto would be enough to stop the whole process of joining...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@johncooper5293
Ukraine is not "fast tracked" but received the status as a "candidate for EU membership" only, because the EU can use different pots of money to support Ukraine better....
Ukraine still has to fulfill the Copenhagen Criteria first (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), and as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen recently, it will take about another 15+ years AFTER war for Ukraine, until Ukraine will join the EU27.
For the UK to join the EU it would go like that:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades.
Joining Criteria according to article 49 TEU...All available at the EUs Commission site...
Btw, the EU27 aren't responsable to sort the self inflicted mess the UK is in, a change of mindset has to come from within the UK and its citizens first, before applying for EU membership again, as the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0" again at the next GE...
Greetings from the EU27 👋
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@Kian2002 Correct.
If you had made the effort to read about "article 49 TEU", you might have realised, that the UK is EQUAL to ALL other for EU membership applying countries = ALL have to start from the scratch by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST...
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs for any country in the world...not even for Ukraine being at war...as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years !!
Why should 27 independent and souvereign countries/the EU27, with their 450ish million citizens change their rules, because the UK/ex EU member state on its own free will, demands it for its own benefit, just because of the self inflicted economical desperation?!!
First of all it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement those deals/treaties, it signed with the EU,...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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Tiny correction please =
"How long it'll TAKE THE UK, to join the EU27 again...
Well, every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
There is a national debt of max 55-60 % needed, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently, that's about £ 1 trillion of debts, the UK has to get rid off...which will take quite a while..
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
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Problem about that is, as soon you're using broadband even if you have a landline, it's all VoIP, therefor electricity is needed, otherwise no Inet.
It's recommended, to have the "good old transistor radio, running on batteries", available, so you can at least receive important Infos from the Gvt.
Btw, no electricity, no telephone net, no water supply (because the modern pumps are running with electricity, no central heatings, no fuel (pumps are running on electricity), etc.
Cavemen is calling up 😉
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@peterrat100
You are aware, that EUropean schools not only teach English, but French, Spanish, German, Italian and Latin as well?
Lots of EUropeans speak three different languages, sometimes even more, my Belgian aunt speaks five different languages 😊
Oh, and when you're "claiming", that American English (which I don't like too much, btw) is no English, because of different pronounciation and various different words, how is it going for Canadian, Australian and NZ citizens, are those people also not speaking English?
Languages are "living" due being spoken, words might change their origin meanings or are "phading out" because of not being used anymore, others get "adopted" from other languages.
You only realise that, when speaking a second or more languages, how "interconnected" our European languages are.
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@geoffbucks5803
Well, this is not, how the EU27 are working...
The EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of 27 independent and souvereign countries...
The UK has the TCA, as stated by the EU = "it's happy with it" = and it's ment serious !!
Referring to Barnier, when doing the Brexit negotiations "I'm fed up about the Brits, explaining them, how the EU works"...
Right now the UK has ignored all if the treaties/deals, it signed with the EU27, there is no big appetite for the EU27, to go agead with any "negotiations", the UK is demanding...UK has to sort its internal issues and implement those deals properly, it signed with the EU27 4,5 years ago...
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Joining the EU goes like that ONLY =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades.
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST..
It's not "negotiations", but rather = working off a bucket list, when joining the EU..
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@davidwebb4451
NO. It doesn't go like that, as it goes like this ONLY =
EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
The EUs Commission also stated since years, that "there won't be any bespoke deals, only option available = full EU membership or EFTA membership"
Norway and Iceland/both EFTA member states, are stating since years, that "they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a trouble maker in their club".
Therefor only option available = full EU membership...
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently..
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@deehaytch8442 🙄
Man, what a quibble here..
what's your problem...still blaming the EU27..aren't you happy about your Brexit?!!
Don't worry, the EU27 will sort that issue...In case, you haven't realised = most British fishermen need staff from the EU27, otherwise they can't run their boats...most fish, which gets caught in British waters, either is poluted with Brexitters poo, therefor contaminated, or is fish, you Brits don't like...
Fish you Brits like, gets imported from Norway now, and the Norwegians don't let you Brits fish in their waters...and they are EFTA members...
Oh, and since the sea gets warmer due to the climate change, those fish, which used to be in British waters, have moved on further north towards Iceland, EFTA member...
Holy cod 😂
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It's about €2,33 per month/head of us 450ish million EU citizens to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee, it's affordable and appreciated 😊
Btw, the UK never paid its full membership fee due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher....therefor it were €120 million per week only, which included the EUs services for = infrastructure, like border controls/customs controls/vet check ups/infrastructure for those controls/civil servants for all of that etc, as that is part of the EUs membership services, professionell negotiators/lawyers for all of those EUs trade deals, etc, etc... = ALL of that the UK has to pay and take care of on its own...which costs much more than being shared with 27 other EU member states 😂
Btw, NO money of those €millions are left, instead the UK =
lost £ 100 billion in 2022 due to Brexit
the UK lost £ 140 billion in 2023 due to Brexit
And it will get more, due to the Brexit related loss of = passporting, which is back in the EU27 since January this year...June 2025 Euroclearing ends and will be back in the EU27...
Those two, for the City of London big businesses are covering about ONE THIRD of the worlds business of clearing and passporting 😂
Thanks for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 🖐
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Yes.
Unfortunately the EUs Commission stated some weeks ago/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
If there is any chance for you, to move back into the EU27 (I know, you used to live over here, but had to move back to the UK, so you could take care of your parents)...then do it, as it'll take decades, before UK might be back in the EU27...
I wish you all the best with greetings from the EU27 👋
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@lellyparker
What most Brits don't seem to understand (even now after 6ish years of Brexsh£t):
the SM is the "core/ heart" of the EU, therefor it's highly protected.
If the EU27 would "open it just like that = UK/ GB gets full access", that would be a "sell out" of EUs regulations and the EU as a organisation itself, after that lots of countries (EU members included partly) might/would like to do the same.
Btw, the "access to the SM" you're having already now, just with the "frictions" Brexit caused.
The NIP/ Windsor agreement is only there to protect the GFA, and wouldn't even be needed without Brexit, therefor an exception only for NI/RoI, not comparable with the situation of the UK at all.
Why is the EU doing this?
Because it protects one of its member states: the RoI, to keep peace on the Island of Ireland, simple as that.
Apart from that: the EU27 plus the 4 EFTA members is a pragmatic, rule based organisation, acting on behalf of its members (within and abroad), not though for non members (even when they've BEEN a EU member state.
Greetings from the EU27
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@EdJames-tb9oz
Those mentioned countries (Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, etc) are EFTA members..
Leaving the EU automaticly includes leaving the EUs SM/EEA and CU, because it goes like that ONLY =
EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
The recent subject spoken about is NOT FOM, but a visa for up to 4 years within ONE of the 27 EUs member states, for people aged 18-30, to either study, work or having an apprenticeship, that's it.
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@paulmackilligin1754
Well, that sounds quite different to your first comment about "joining the SM".
The "Norwegian modell/EFTA membership " isn't available, because Norway stated various times that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
The "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore either as stated by the EU Commission because of "too much hustle".
Therefor only full EU membership is available by applying for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria first, if none of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU, only then the UK/GB will get the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the real negotiations with the EU would start, which could take decades.
Btw, this time as a "new" member the Uk/GB has to accept the Schengen and has to implement the Euro.
No exceptions, no "fast track " for any country in the world as stated by the EU Commission.
The "four freedoms (of goods, people, services, capital)," are part of EU membership as well as the payment of the membership fee, and following the rules of the European High Court.
It won't be a "quick one", and "bespoke deals" aren't available either as stated by the EU Commission.
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@Andrew-rc3vh
Ahh, yes, didn't know about that issue.
The EU27 have taken consequences since the pandemic and the "supply chain problems" coming with it, therefor the EU27 decided, to bring back parts of the needed "critical infrastructure" into the EU, not all of it, but to make sure, that it doesn't go as bad as when the lockdowns were ongoing.
The EUs industry/manufacturers are much to vulnerable, when various/of course not all, parts of the needed stuff, like semi conductors or batteries etc, gets produced in Asia/China mostly... same goes for medication etc.
TSMC has decided, to "spread" its production plants in the EU/Germany and another one in the USA, since China is threatening Taiwan... TSMC is producing about 80ish % of ALL worlds needed micro chips...until now in Taiwan only... therefor...
Weird times, everything on the edge and under tensions...
I wish you all the best with greetings from the EU27 😊 🖐
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@markwelch3564
The EUs "rapid responce force" had its first maneuver ever in Rota/Spain with 2.800 troops from 19 different EU member states...the goal is focused on minimum 5.000 troops in 2025, rather more...
Since 1952 the EU had the "EUs forces" written in its treaties... since the war in Ukraine the organisation of this recent maneuver had been planned/organised....
The main task for the "EUs rapid responce force" is, to take care of EUs citizens in none EU countries, to evacuate them, do humanitarian aid and protect them at the same time with military support etc, like now in Gaza or other...
Rota is a naval base of the Spanish army...
The EUs rapid responce force will start its official "work" in 2025 under rotating troops and rotating leadership, starting with German leadership....
About Nato "eastern flank"...recently about 40.000 Nato troops are "taking care" of that part of Nato territory...
Since January 2023 the NRFNATO VJTF responce force with about 11.500 troops (from which 8.000 are German troops in rotation) incl full equipment, are recently at the Baltics..... they are the ones going in first, if Russia/Belarus troops would attack the Baltics...to give the "other" Nato troops time to get there as well...
The NRFNATO VJTF very high readiness joint task force/ responce force is in permanent "stand by", ready to go "in" inner 48-72 hours
In Lithuania the Nato EFP enhanced forward battle group Lithuania is there since 2017 with 1.200 troops from Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Norway in rotation...
UK is doing so/leadership in Estonia, Canada in Letvia, USA in Poland etc...
Lithuania actually asked Nato partner Germany to have a permanent battalion of the German army stationed at Lithuania/ in agreement with Nato partners...
Don't worry...everything is fine over here... Nato is just showing "its presence" 😊😎
Have a nice Sunday with greetings from the EU27/Germany 😊🍻🖐
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I'm sorry to say, that the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently...
Joining the EU will go like this =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), which could take decades.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
The UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria at the moment.
I wish you all the best with greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@MichaelSmith-ns8ow
In case you're talking about the "two, three, four tiered EU " here, then I have to disappoint you, as the "two, three, four tiered EU " was a "brainstorming of a think tank of 12 French-German guys" only, but NOT official at all.
It wasn't even in the media over here in the EU27...
What the EUs member states want to change is the "one voice veto system" for certain EU decisions being made, the EUs member states would rather change it to a "absolute majority system", that's it...
Btw, the SM is the core/heart of the EU and therefor highly protected, no chance of "cherry picking" here...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@GammonBrexitNews
Hello back 😊
The EU27 didn't close anything, but as the UK was using the transition period, to get as much vaccine from EU towards the UK, the UK bought virtually the EUs vaccine market "empty", while promising, to partly distribute it to other countries in need, but instead kept it all on its own.
And yes, the EU27 are still passing on security related Infos towards the UK (smugglers, terrorists, criminals), but UK doesn't do its job properly...again, and doesn't pass on those infos towards the EU, same as it receives from the EU27 ...
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@dirkdupont5004 Unfortunately I would think, it'll rather happen in the EU (to be sortet at court), not though in the UK.
As written before, there is already a anti corruption task force existing, this is how it came up, but the EU will enlarge this anti corruption system also for countries.
But as usual, some people think, they are smarter then others, when doing stuff like that, until they get caught 😉
I trust the EU system, she's lost already all titles/Jobs she had, her "immunity" has taken away from her, the independant EU judge system is working, the investigations have just started.
I cross the fingers, that one day the UK will be back on that system some time again. But at the moment I don't see it.
All the best to you with greetings to the UK from the EU 😉
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@johnregan6239 🙄
As a born EU citizen living in the EU27 with my London born spouse I can't be a "Brexitter", but it looks like you're in line with all those Brits/ Brexitters as well as Remainers, that don't like facts about = the EUs joining criteria article 49 TEU 😂
All these supposed "options" the UK seems to have, like the two, three, multi tiered EU "membership", the "closer alignment", just joining the EUs SM/EEA/CU etc DON'T EXIST !!
The UK is talking to itself and always seem to forget, that it's the EUs decision ONLY...
Our club, our rules !!
As joining the EU goes like that ONLY =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades (see Turkiye, candidate status since 1999).
The average timespan needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST !!
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment !!
To fulfill those needed criteria will take ages, as one of them is to have a national debt of max < 60 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently...
If only you would have Inet...
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UK is in NATO...
Joining the EUs SM/EEA/CU is available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
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@urseliusurgel
Well, I never said, that they're not dangerous, because they are !!
But, like Meloni, has silenced about "leaving" since being in power...doing quite "moderate" EU politics, but national politics, she is doing exactly as "promised" to the Italian electorate...😒
They all know, that none of them would be able to stand on their own = Brexit/UK is the "best" example for that...
We're keeping "an eye" on them, as shown at huge demonstrations "anti fas☆☆☆s 😎 with hundreds of thousands of people over here 💪, to show them, that we are the majority, not them !!
Resist the beginnings !!
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@johnfisher697 NO.
Joining the EU isn't "negotiations", but "working off a bucket list" and it goes like that ONLY =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades.
Right now the EU27 don't have any appetite to have the UK back in their club.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
Instead the EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Again = our club, our rules !!
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@smokeango
I stand corrected, as I misread the instruction about it.
But how to you want to use any of modern equipment, as Lithium is build in: computers, notebooks, smart phones, e scooter, every wireless tool/ drill etc,
If your concerns about Lithium are that "tight/ strong", you shouldn't even be using the Inet nor your "tool" for using it. What would be your alternative solution for that?
Btw, the Inet on its own is using about one third of ALL on the planets electricity consumption, just for keeping up the needed infrastructure (server, clouds etc), not very ecological either.
Just saying ...
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@johnrussell3961 Errr, such a strange view of history you have, John 😉
It might calm you down a bit, in case you're English, then one third of your DNA is Saxon (research from 2019). Opposit to all other people from other countries, which were in ancient England, only the Saxons left the largest DNA impact on the English people, why ever ....
Btw, the "Celts" weren't a specific tribe ("races" don't exist, defined by science of today), but more of the same culture over a certain region in Europe and the British Islands.
Greetings from Bremen
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@Gary Phelps He is saying it, because the UK/GB CAN'T RETURN to the SM, as there are only two options available: full EU membership or EFTA.
EFTA (Norwegian modell) isn't available either, as Norway is stating since 2016 that it'll veto the UK/GB joining EFTA, as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
To become a full EU member, the UK/GB has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, and only if none of the EU27 member states vetoes UK/GB, the entry negotiations with the EU would start, which could take decades.
Just access to the SM was and is never possible, as the SM is the core/heart of the EU and therefor highly protected.
No "fast track", no exceptions for any country in the world, as stated recently by the EU Commission.
Greetings from the EU
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@GammonBrexitNews
Well, tell me then, how it was possible last year, that 20 of 21 trucks with food coming via EU, weren't ok anymore....
Again, when there is just a huge British company/food supplier, buying food "en masse", from somewhere in the EU/or via EU, the stuff arrived and gets distributed all over the UK, ending up at supermarkets...
Normally it goes like that: food imports get checked at the borders by all needed institutions/or vets... and when tested to be ok, the food gets distributed all over the country...which the UKs Gvt doesn't do since Brexit...your borders are wide open to anything and everything...and the smugglers etc know about it...
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@harold4506
Don't know, in which country you're living, but I just give you an example about "Germany's energy consumption", in this case BASF, the worlds largest chemical production plant has the same consumption of energy per year as Switzerland...
Btw, about 52% of Germany's electricity gets produced by renewables (wind, solar, water), still raising...
Don't wait for the EU27/Germany to "collapse", like it's doing so since decades at any minute 🤣 😎
Please look up for Wolfspeed, a US company which is building a gigafactory for semi conductors at the Federal State of Saarland/Germany.
Infenion near Dresden
Bosch near Dresden
TSMC (Taiwanese company which will build a gigafactory for micro chips) at Silicon Saxony near Dresden
Intel near Magdeburg
Northvolt near Hamburg
Ford near Cologne
VW is building 3 gigafactories for EVs batteries, one at Lower Saxony/Germany, one in Sweden in cooperation with Northvolt, and one in Spain or Portugal.
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@harold4506
Well, I'm from Bremen, where I'm living with my London born spouse 😊
Again, the EU27 are in transition going green... investing into the future while at the same time "running" the usual business...
The whole world is a bit "out of tune" recently, which isn't very helpfull... but the timespan for going green was already agreed on before the pandemic, wars etc happened, considering that Germany is the second largest donor to Ukraine (1st USA), has taken about 3,3 million refugees so far/ still raising, it's going quite good.
AfD, yes, but don't forget, we've got PR voting system over here, therefor the other 80% of the electorates voices go to the other parties 😊 and its another two years to the next GE in Germany...
Fitch affirms Germany rating AAA
outlook stable
Fitch affirms the EU rating AAA
outlook stable
Fitch affirms UK rating AA-
outlook negative
Greetings from Bremen 😊🖐
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VW has lost 14 %, NOT 50 % 🙄
It's mostly the Chinese market...but VW owns Seat, Skoda, Lamborghini, Ducati, Audi, Bentley, Porsche, and vehicles production..114 production plants with 675.805 people working there...
Neither the EU27, nor Germany or VW are "collapsing"...
Germany is the worlds third largest economy, inflation rate is 2,2 %, national debt 66,3 %...
Rather make sure, that you don't have the "heat or eat" issues over there again this coming Winter...
Btw, U v d Leyens husband is German, born in Hanover...
If only you would have Inet, then you simply could look up about those facts 😂
Thanks for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 👋
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@urseliusurgel 🙄
Oh, please, that's a bit of a stretch and quibble here, the €/Euro coins only show partly the outline of the left part of the European Continent ..the Baltics, Greece, Malta, Cyprus, Balkans etc are missing, eventhough most of them are using the €/Euro ..
Quite funny your statement, especially as the UK never joined the €/Euro zone 😂
I'm seeing the "situation" very clear, as half of my family are British living in England, of which half of them voted for Brexit...while my London born spouse and I are living in the EU27....🥳
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@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
The EU27 are the ones, which will "declare a applying country to be a candidate for EU membership", NOT the applying country does !!
The UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently..
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria...
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
No "negotiations", but just a "list of joining criteria" have to be fulfilled and implemented by every applying country !!
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@philip_fletcher 🙄
Doesn't matter, as it's for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, and the EUs Commission stated various times since years, that "a Swiss deal won't happen anymore, because of too much hassle"... Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
On top of that = ALL 4 EFTA member states have about 16ish million people living there, the UK has about 67ish million people, THAT would outbalance the EFTA members, which isn't wanted !!
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK !!
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
It'll take decades to be back in the EU27..
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@huginnmuninn2155 OK, see here, please:
the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany have this project called
" green hydrogen coast line", Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven is involved as well, all subsidiesed by the EU and Gvts.
Hydrogen can be used as battery storage for the overloads from the offshore windmill parks and others.
Lots of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities.
The EU27 will replace all fossil fuels (coal, oil, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Electrolyseurs (wind to power) are under construction all along the coast lines.
Daimler and Volvo Trucks have developed hydrogen powered trucks as well as the Faun Group, those trucks/ vehicles are already in use.
Some weeks ago the world wide first 14 hydrogen powered trains (Alston) started their service in Lower Saxony/ Germany.
48% of Germany's electricity gets produced by renewables (wind, solar, water).
About 30.000 windmills all over Germany are producing electricity, figures still raising.
Greetings from Germany
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@timonsolus Errr...no.
No ship from the American Continent has to "ship around the UK", but use the channel, like all other ships, and France, the Netherlands, Germany also have radar, submarines, jets and stuff 🙄
Btw, some months ago there were Dutch, Norwegian and German mine hunters, frigates etc at Canary Warf/London = NATO maneuver 😁
British and German air forces are doing the air policing at the Baltics, always with British/German cockpit crews..
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He can't promise "joining the SM", as being in the SM is available only for EU members and EFTA members, not though for 3rd countries...
Joining the EU again would be like that:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria first, if none of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly, which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
Starmer (being a lawyer) knows ALL of those needed criteria very well, and this is, why he can't promise any of that...
Btw, before applying for EU membership again, there would be urgently needed education about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament with its democratic elected MEPs working on behalf of the EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens etc, best to start that education already at school, like it's happening in most EU member states..., otherwise the UKs electorate might vote for "leave" again at the following GE, and the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0" again.
About Johnson and his lot: NONE of these guys/British negotiators included, had any idea about "how the EU works and what it's for", Barnier and his team stated various times while the Brexit negotiations were ongoing "that he is fed up, that they (Barnier and team) have to explain the Brits, how the EU works and what it's for".
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@DavidMoxham957
Dear David,
@aukebij, Marinus, Maarten, a b, and I are born EU citizens, living in the EU27...over here the EUs Commission/negotiators/spokesmen/statements are very present all the time...hence we're quit e well informed...apart from, that everything is available at the EUs Commission site...what we're posting here/analogous..
The EUs Commission is stating since years now, that the TCA is as it is, that there won't be any re-negotiations or other, just a REVIEW...the maximum will be some issues like the "youth mobility", or simular..that's it..
I'm sorry for all of you over there, which didn't want this, but have to live with the consequences !!
My London born spouse wasn't even allowed to vote because of the "living more than 15 years abroad" rule, had to get dual citizenship because of Brexit...
UKs recent status quo as a 3rd country will stay for quite a while..
I wish you all the best with greetings 👋
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Well, Farage cheated, when filling in the application forms for German citizenship...
One has to live in Germany for eight years, before it's possible, to apply for citizenship...
Farage used his German brother in laws address, not knowing, that everybody, living in Germany, has to get registered at that village/town/city with ones addres, it's needed, because in Germany tax has to be paid, where one is living, and not, where one is working...
Therefor the German authorities sussed out pretty quick, that Farage didn't appear anywhere 😂
Such a shame that is ..NOT 😎
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Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
The former Tory gvt left the recent gvt a pile of shards...you should "hold accountable" the Tory's, which were in gvt for the last 14 years !!
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@EdJames-tb9oz 🙄
Try to read again = Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Todays EUs joining criteria AREN'T the same anymore as they were in the 1970s...and EFTA is NOT the first step to join EU !!
The EU27 have changed some joining criteria due to the financial crisis in 2008, hence there is a national debt of max 55-60 % needed, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently..
A written Constitution is needed as well..All needed EUs joining criteria article 49 TEU are available at the EUs Commission site..
The UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
No opt outs, no exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years !!
"...while UK is currently misbehaving" 😂
Well, 47 years of demanding opt outs up to the last minute of its membership and even now misbehaving, as UK still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27 4,5 years ago ...
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
ALL 4 EFTA members make up about 16ish million people, the UK about 67ish million people...that would outbalance the EFTA members, which isn't wanted.
As that will never change, it's more than likely, that UK won't join EFTA ever...
About EUs voting system =
yes, for IMPORTANT decisions to be made, like for EUs household or NEW MEMBER STATES the ONE VOICE VOTING SYSTEM gets used...for all other EUs decisions the qualified majority with a 73,91 % majority gets used.
The average timespan needed is stated by EUs negotiators, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
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Well, when I look back, there were people on the streets in the 1950s, 1960s 1970s, 1980s etc, for all different reasons: peace, freedom, human rights, women rights, etc. Each generation has it's "issues", and the "nasty ones" were and are always amongst us.
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Well, EVERY country, which wants to trade with any other countries, has to follow the rules of its trading partners...independently from if it's the EU or any other countries all over the world...
The closing of Port Talbot steel mill has got NOTHING to do with the EU27...
The EUs "green deal" has a value of € ONE TRILLION for "going green"...
Therefor various steel mills within EU27 member states received already € billions, to build their own windmills/electrolyseurs and arc furnaces, to produce green steel in the near future...
It was a Tata Steel decision only, to close down Port Talbot steel mill, but that had nothing to do with the EU27 or "going green" !!
None of those steel mills, which are located within the EU27, have made any steel workers redundant...because, all it is = instead of burning coal/nat gas, green hydrogen is doing the "job", but everything else of the steel producing proceedure stays the same...
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Yes.
But don't underestimate the lack of 60.000ish staff for customs/border/vet check ups, including civil services etc, and missing infrastructure, which the former Tory gvt didn't prepare...now Starmer has to sort this, but can't, as he can't pull it out the hat, like a magician..
When visiting the EU27, he got told, that the EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as the UK still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Forgot to say = some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
Pretty clear statement that is..
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@aaronwinegar9724
No EU member states are thinking about leaving the EU27, and those right wing parties, which had been very loud about that subject before Brexit, have gone completely silent.
It costs us 450ish million EU citizens € 2,33 per month/head to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee, it's affordable and appreciated 😁
While the UK was EU member, it was continiously demanding opt outs (and still does /treaties etc, eventhough its not a EU member anymore), the British MEPs were, when being in the EUs Parliament, behaving like the "bad boys from the back bench, trampling with their feet, while waving a mini union jack", while their EU collegues/MEPs were doing their work.
The UK/Brexit isn't a subject over here anymore, it's done, and as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen "the UK can join the EU again UNDER THE KNOWN CONDITIONS", and THAT goes like that:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (if not done properly, joining process stops instantly), which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU is 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
The UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria at the moment...
Urgently needed, before the UK would apply for EU membership, would be education about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament with its democratic elected MEPs (with PR), working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens, otherwise the UKs electorate might vote "leave" again at the following GE, and the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0 " again.
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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There are no "closer alignments" with the EU27 available, instead UK should finally implement those deals, it signed with the EU27 4,5 years ago !!
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
Leaving the EU automaticly includes leaving the EUs SM/EEA/CU, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
UK is a 3rd country now = 3rd country rules apply !!
As stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen/Commission "no deal will be as good or even better than being EU member state", or the short cut version "club member benefits are for club members only".
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@seanpatrick1243 🙄
So you expect 27 countries with their 450 million citizens to "change their voting rules" to benefit UKs wishes? 😂 Wow.
"Have you ever been involved in high level negotiations, because I have" 🙄
Especially then you should take those statements, done by the EUs Commission/negotiators/spokesmen quite serious...
Why do Brits seem to think all the time, that "the EU27" are spinning around the UK?
If only one of you would have a look at the EUs Commission site, where all those official statements are available, then you wouldn't come up with such claims...
First of all it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement those deals/treaties, it signed with the EU27...
Just in case, you want to blame me now for being "anti Br ..." = half of my family are British living in England, of which half of them voted for Brexit...
Btw = the UK/and its electorate, is the only 3rd country world wide, which seems to have problems with accepting its 3rd country status and the 3rd country rules coming with it..
Apropos = high level negotiations = the EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of 27 independent and souvereign countries...and NOT a project, like a huge construction project or whatever, where "negotiations" about standards/price or other conditions are possible..
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@seanpatrick1243 🙄
Opposit to the UK, over here in the EU27 there was the documentary about those two years of "negotiations" shown...ohh, and = yess, I know, how "high level negotiations are going" 😎
The EUs team around Barnier were "negotiating" for more than two years, with teams of all sorts of lawyers etc, to get the first /May deal done = 700 pages, and then the UKs Parliament did its "no, no, no action", a second one was done while the transition period was ongoing, which also was extended three times in three months terms, then the Windsor agreement came on top of the NIP...= this c☆☆p is ongoing since EIGHT YEARS now, the EU27 have moved on and definetely other things to do then doing more "negotiations" with the UK.
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@frogandspanner There are only two options available: full EU membership or EFTA.
The so called "soft Brexit = just access to the SM" never existed. While the Brexit negotiations went on, the British negotiators were demanding continiusly full access to the SM, without any of the coming duties with it (the four freedoms- free movement of goods, people, services, capital), the "member fee" plus acceptance of the European High Court. The British negotiators didn't understand, that the SM is the core/heart of the EU, therefor it's highly protected.
The "Swiss modell" isn't available anymore, stated by EU Commission, because off "too much hustle". The "Norwegian modell" isn't available either, as Norway stated since 2016 until today, that it'll veto the UK/GB as they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
EU Commission stated, that there is no "fast track" joining the EU for any country in the world, not even for the Ukraine, being at war.
Btw, the Republic of Ireland IS AN EU MEMBER.
Greetings from the EU
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Well, the EUs Commission installed a site,BEFORE the referendum extra for the Brits "all about EU- FAQs".... one just had to type "EU" and it would have popped up, as it was set on priority.
Unfortunately the Brits decided, to look for those needed Infos AFTER the referendum, as stated by Google "the most asked question AFTER the referendum was- what is the EU".
Btw, when your Gvt told you, that "nothing would change, when leaving the EU", what sense does it make then, to leave, when nothing is changing anyway .... just saying...
As stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators recently "no deal will be as good or even better than being EU member".... and "club member benefits are for club members only".
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@ebikeoutdoors
No problem 😊
Yeah, you're right, I needed to get more informations about Brexit, because being married into an in England living English family and friends, living over here in the EU with my London born spouse, it was needed...
About "the EU", which are a union/organisation of 27 independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working/acting on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens....
The EU27 are not perfect, but is the best thing ever happening to the EUropean Continent.... peace (within the EU member states), and, being the biggest SM world wide, is always helpfull, as no country from the European Continent would survive on its own these days, as ALL of them Germany, France etc included are still "small" countries in the context of USA, China etc...
As you can see all over the world, countries are doing "blocks/cooperations" etc, to have more "soft power = trading", and looking at USA, China, India, the 54 African countries... no chance for us "tiny European countries on our own. But as "the EU27/450ish million citizens", and being the biggest trading block/SM world wide, it's a complete different issue 💪😊
On top of that it is a real advantage, to be able to decide, if one wants to live/work or whatever in any of the 27 EU member states without having to get permission/working visa etc...and the EU27 is working for its citizens, to protect them as much as possible with human rights, protection of labourship, environment, customers rights etc...
See it like that:
"United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong",
THAT are the EU27 member states 😊
Btw, the UK is loosing about £100 billion per year since Brexit | Bloomberg
Opposit what the Brexiteers/hardliner are trying to tell you.... the UK received for every pound given to the EU 10 pounds back, due to trading/SM within the EU, and the xxx-trade deals the EU has all over the world...
Some time ago Richard Tice stated "Brexit was about stripping down all regulations (protection of labourship, environment, banking etc) and to convert the NHS into a private health system US style".
He was smiling when saying that...
I hope, I answered all of your questions.... otherwise.... ask 😊
Have a nice day with greetings from the EU27 😊
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@ecaeas4439
The decision was done under Merkel Gvt, directly after Fukushima happened...
Germany doesn't have a lack of electricity, but nat gas is needed as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc ...
The EU27 will replace all fossil fuels (oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Hydrogen can be used as storage battery for the overloads from the offshore windmills and others as well as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc as well.
Lots of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities as well.
Electrolyseurs (wind to power) are under construction everywhere as well.
Btw, the most dangerous stuff of the nuclear waste needs about one hundred thousand years, before being not dangerous anymore.
Counting that timespan backwords, you're at the Neanderthal's...
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@dav3bassman NO.
This is not, how the EU27 are working...
The EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens.
The EU27 are a peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states and their 450ish million citizens with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
It's about €2,33 per month/head of us 450ish million EU citizens to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee, it's affordable...
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine being at war, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years..
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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Norway/EFTA stated various times since years, that it'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
The UK has a deal with the EU = the TCA, would be nice, if the UK would finally implement those deals, it signed with the EU.... including the NIP/Windsor agreement...
"No deal will be as good or even better than being EU member ", or the short cut version "club member benefits are for club members only", as stated by various EUs negotiators /spokesmen.
The UK is a 3rd country now and has to follow the existing 3rd country rules, which existed already all the time, when the UK was EU member.... and on which the UKs Gvt had been worked on, to make them as hard as possible, which it has to follow now by itself..... 🤣😎
Because, it's the EUs Council = the EUs member states Gvts and the democratic elected MEPs, which are the EUs rule/laws/decision makers in the EU... of which the UK was part of, when being a EU member state...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@xanthias2001
Infact "critical thinking" gets taught at most EUs member states schools, from 5th grade on ☺️
It's included in lessons like history, art, languages etc = questioning, interpretations, etc..
Taking care/doing self reflection on your countries past comes on top of that.... remembering about it, to make sure, that it never happens again !!
A good start for the UKs people would be a self reflection about the "British Empire" = invading, occupying, so called colonialism, which went on for about 300ish years and cost 165 million peoples l☆☆☆☆
But reading/partly, British newspapers = analysing them, yellow press included...
Greetings from one of the EU member states 👋
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@steverichmond7142 NO.
There won't be anything "waved" through, apart from it goes like that ONLY =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled and implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly, which could take decades...
The national debt has to be down to 55-60 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently..it's about £ 1 trillion of debts, the UK has to get rid off...
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@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
I'm sorry, but it wasn't official at all, as it was a think tank of 12 French-German guys only, which had a "brainstorming", but NOT official at all.
Infact this "report" had about 80ish pages, and on Page 41 there was half a sentence, where the UK was mentioned like "it might be ...for the UK"... that was it...
This subject "two, three, four tiered EU " pops up regular every five years or so, and disappears again silently...
It wasn't even in the media over here in the EU27, but a "huge hype" in the UK. I only knew about it, because of these yt channels talking about it.
Same goes for the German Minister (UK can call...) only read about it in these yt channels, had to search for it, it was a "one liner" only.. not even anywhere in the main news over here...
It doesn't mean anything, because there are 27 independent and souvereign
EU member states, and ALL of them have to agree.
Same goes for Guy Verhofstadt, when coming to the UK, joining the "re-joining marches".
Verhofstadt is a brilliant MEP, but when speaking at these marches, he is talking as a private person only, but NOT in the name of the EU27.
I wish you all the best with greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@LeonLShaw As deGaulle and Adenauer, both same age, had been in WWI and WWII, knew what that means, the idea was to fund the "Montan union", which included that the French could "digg their coal pits" through over Germany and the Germans through over France. The logic behind that was, that coal and steel were the main materials to produce weapons/ armery, and when both country's France/ Germany use the same pits, crossing the border, it would calm down both Nations. Btw, the origin of EU came from Robert Schuman, (the father of Europe) and was already spoken about in the 1920s, (Schuman met various times with Friedrich Ebert,First President of the Weimar Republic), but before a treaty could be signed WWII started. The French/German war (France invaded Germany and lost) in 1870/1871 was the reason for Schuman's idea, as he experienced change of Nationality 3 times due to French/ German wars, being born in Luxembourg, the "French/Luxembourg, German border region".
So as you see, its a much earlier story/ history of EUs "birth".
Greetings from the EU 😉
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@willyhill7509
Errr... the UK is paying back the "overpayments", it received, when being a EU member, the EUs household is mostly based on a seven years term, therefor subsidies for certain projects etc, get paid upfront, on top of that, the pensions for the British MEPs and their backoffice staff and other, which had been working on behalf of the British people for 47 years being in the EU, have to be paid as well.... or do you think, that the EU citizens should pay for money and pensions, the UK received....
Btw, since Brexit the UK is loosing £100 billion per year, due to Brexit |Bloomberg
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@willyhill7509 Oh dear...
after 47 years EU membership, 7 years after the referendum and 3 years after Brexit happened, you Brits still don't seem to understand, how the EU works...
Again: the membership fee is for ALL the infrastructure (like Frontex, customs service etc and partly gets used for subsidies, trade deals (with professional EUs negotiators) all around the world with good conditions, because of being the worlds largest SM etc....
The gained benefits are much more than just counting "the membership fee" and how much money did we get back....
Frictionless trading within 27 EU member states the UK had access to, "delivery on demand", etc... would you count the "membership fee" being paid for your gym comparing with "how much money you're getting back? No? But you would count in the offered service etc....
In case you're planning on visiting Blackpool, please enjoy the nice restored Blackpool Tower, the whole seafront including the beach, the road along the beach and the coastal protection at Blackpool, as ALL of that was paid with EU subsidies (EUs infrastructure fund).
Ask Cornwall how it's going since Brexit... because Cornwall received €650 million over five years (EUs infrastructure fund), EVERY five years when the UK was EU member, because Cornwall was one of the five poorest regions in the EU (from which four were in the UK).
Since Brexit Cornwall received £ one million from Westminster...
ALL social projects for kids/youth etc had to be closed down, because ALL of those projects were paid by the EUs social fund... since Brexit no compensation for those urgently needed social projects...looks like, that the British Gvt doesn't bother about British kids...
Could go on like that, but to be honest, I can't be bothered anymore, to explain how the EU works...
Be happy with your crumbling raac buildings, potholes in the roads, disappearing NHS converting into a private health system US style, food banks for hospital staff at hospitals, stripped down protection of labourship, environment, banking, striking and demonstrating rights, sewage in all British waters.... etc... it's going really good over there, innit? 🤣😎
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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Well, every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
About "UKs access to EUs markets" =
the UK signed the TCA with the EU27, and it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement those deals properly, it signed with the EU27 4,5 years ago.
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals,it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
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@walkingwithshadows
Well, THAT was while the Brexit negotiations were ongoing, the EUs negotiators also stated, that these offers (whatever was on offer at that time) are ONLY on offer, while the UK is still EU member, but NOT anymore, when being a 3rd country.
Again, only available option: full EU membership under the known conditions...
Forgot to say: lets say, I/EU27 run a gym, and you/UK want to be desperately a member of my gym (again), BUT you're telling me, "that you really like those membership benefits, but not the coming duties with it, therefor you would like to change the membership conditions JUST FOR YOU, and then you could be a member again" 😳
Does THAT sound reasonable in any way to you? I doubt, VERY MUCH ...
One could say, "if one doesn't like the very well known conditions of the club, one wants (desperately) to join, then that one should stay out of that club/EU...
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@walkingwithshadows Look, over here in the EU, the EU27 are very much "visible", daily, either in the news/TV/online or whatever, the EUs Parliament meetings are watchable, whenever important EU issues are "on the table", official statements from EU spokesmen or Presidents/Parliament or Commission are broadcasted etc, therefor us EU citizens are pretty well informed (if one is using those services), all EUs decisions/treaties are openly readable at the EUs Commission site... therefor it's NOT my "personal agenda", but simple facts, stated by various EU spokesmen or the needed criteria for joining the EU...
If you don't believe me, I strongly recommend to read Barniers book about the Brexit negotiations and consequences of Brexit for the UK.
Since the Brexit was done, the EUs negotiators/spokesmen have constantly repeated the same message over and over again, but obviously nobody wants/likes to hear the message in the UK.
You Brits have messed up, as simple as that, and even confirmed that sh£t at the elections again...
Forgot to say: May's deal had been in negotiations for two years and had about 700 pages, when it got signed, Barnier and his team were so happy, that this difficult issue got sorted in the end ... Barnier stated various times "that he is tired of explaining the Brits how the EU works".... and then it goes to the British Parliament and the "no, no, no sh£t show started", and all of that work was for the bin....
Apart from, that it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement all of the treaties it signed with the EU, before demanding another "whatever"...
The EUs spokesmen stated various times, that "the EU" also has other things to do, then just being busy doing endless negotiations with the UK".
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@indivisible4835
Good evening, Keith 😉
it's ok, don't worry "gg". Yeah, the German language is quite good for these "word constructs", and I can tell you: there are many more, lol.
It's great with ice skating, unfortunately we actually had only three days alltogether, were the ice was thick enough to go on. In fact they stated on the news yesterday, that up here in the north it's the warmest
January we ever had since 142 years, where they started to write down the weather statistics :-((
Good for the EU nat gas buffers, bad for nature.
Now everything is just flooded as usual (like in autumn the moorlands around Bremen get flooded every year until spring), as it's to warm for ice.
Btw, the "highest hill" over here in the north-west is 54,40 mtrs high "gg".
And a storm is just starting again, time for a nice cup of "East Frisian" tea 😉
Have a nice evening,
Insa
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@juliangilbert5465 🙄
Joining the EUs SM/EEA/CU isn't available for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27 .
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@rocketsurgeon2135 Yes, I rembered the £180 million from about a year ago, when it was stated by EU officials. It really was a rough estimate of me, which, like you wrote, will be far above our imagination, I' m afraid. If I remember correct, they also stated about a loss sum (on UK side) about £800 million in the first few months after the Brexit had started. At least the EU hard borders get checked, which might be a tiny relief to you being worried about deseases etc, as the EU might be like a shield towards Britain, even though its the opposite direction. Must be terrifying living over there, I know it from our friend near Nottingham. All the best to you, greetings from Bremen 😉
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@fitzstv8506 NO.
It doesn't exist, and EU member states have no desire, to get that...infact, this French-German think tank had that "idea" for a future Ukraine only, depending how the war is turning out...the UK never was part of those thoughts...
The ECHR has nothing to do with the EU27, as 46 countries are members of the ECHR, of which 27 are EU member states, the ECHR was founded directly after WWII, to protect Human Rights, YOURS included.
The EU27 wants to change som e INTERNAL issues ONLY, like FOR CERTAIN ISSUES ONLY = the "one voice voting" = changing it to a "qualified majority = 73,91 %" for certain decision made within EU27 rules/laws/regulations to be confirmed...that's all.....
The EU27 are a ever evolving peace project, with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
The EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states and its 450ish million citizens.
It's up to every EU member state to leave the EU27 at any time on its own will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when...
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"The EU27 " are a ever evolving and developing peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
Please look up for Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
Please look up for Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU = the "Schuman plan".
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan".
Btw, Robert Schuman/French Minister, and Friedrich Ebert/President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the 1920s, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union, unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925. Hindenburg followed him as the President of the Weimar Republic, talks about a EUropean Union stopped, the "rest" is history..
Thanks for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 🥳
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@zotter2542 As I wrote, hydrogen can and will be used AS battery storage and will replace coal, oil and NAT GAS. Nat gas is also used as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper, medical units, Aspirin, cosmetics, dairy products etc., etc.
You are aware, that until now most energies like oil aren't very efficient? To proceed fuel/petrol/ diesel from oil you also need a hell of a lot of electricity and the motors, running on those proceeded fuels, aren' t so effective either. By that, all of us shouldn't use any of that, which doesn't make sence really. Interesting, that you know better than all mentioned researchers/countries. May be us humans develope other energy resources in the future, but at this moment green hydrogen is the goal. And the researchers are working on other forms of energy storages as well, its not the end of it.
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FOM for people, goods, services and capital are not divisable and are part/perks of EU and EFTA membership only, not though available for 3rd countries !!
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
On top of that = all 4 EFTA members together make up about 16ish million people living there, while there are about 67ish million people are living in the UK, that would outbalance the EFTA system.
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@smoosview6103
Well, no British politician can promise anything, which isn't up to the UK, but is up to the EU27 only, as it goes like that ONLY =
every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
Instead the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
When he was rushing through the EU27 recently, to visit his collegues in various EUs member states, ALL of them were telling him the same "implement the deals properly"...
Right now there isn't even a big appetite within the EU27 to have the UK back in their club...
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@smoosview6103
I'm German, and no, the German naturalization doesn't work like that.
Kids have to have German parents born in Germany, only then one is German !!
All the others have to apply for German citizenship at the age of 18, until then kids have dual nationality..since a few years kids born in Germany can keep dual nationality, if wanted.
The EU27 aren't "imploding" 😂
Again, instead the EU27 signed the EU-Mercosur FTA recently and is the worlds biggest FT zone now 😂
Add on = January this year the "passporting" went back into the EU27, June 2025 the "Euroclearing" will be back in the EU27, then Brexit is complete, as the transition period of FOM for capital ends June 2025.
This is a huge loss for the City of London, as those financial services are making up about one third of worlds market for clearing services = a value of £ 260 trillion
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@johnfisher697 NO.
The Treaty of Rome in 1957 = set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS INTEGRATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH THROUGH TRADE, TO ESTABLISH A COMMON MARKET BASED ON THE FREE MOVEMENT OF GOODS, PEOPLE, SERVICES AND CAPITAL.
That was a snippet of the Treaty of Rome/1957.
The Maastricht Treaty in 1992 installed the = Copenhagen Criteria...not comparable with the joining criteria in 1973 !!
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@StephenTownsley OK.
To most of what you wrote, I agree, not though "that Thatcher created the EUs SM", because it goes like that ONLY =
Please look up about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
Please look up about Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU, the "creator of the Schuman plan"...
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the Schuman plan, and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
The Treaty of Rome "set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a COMMON MARKET based on the FREE MOVEMENT OF GOODS, PEOPLE, SERVICES, CAPITAL".
Thatcher as well as Churchill jumped on an already existing train...
Robert Schuman/French Minister/PM, and Friedrich Ebert/first President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the 1920s, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union, unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925. Hindenburg followed him as the President of the Weimar Republic, talks about a EUropean Union stopped, the rest is history...
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@stuartgraca
Germany was forwarding nat gas to the Ukraine, Poland, Austria, Tchechia and some other countries as well.
At beginning of the war Germany's Russian nat gas imports were about 56% of its national consumption, in August 10%, since September none.
All mentioned before countries had to fill up their nat gas buffers before winter.
Norway, the Netherlands and Belgium have taken over from Russia with delivering nat gas to Germany.
In Germany most of the nat gas is used for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper, medical units like for dialysis or Aspirin, dairy products etc.
The Netherlands, Denmark and Germany have this project called
" green hydrogen coast line", Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven is involved as well, all subsidiesed by the EU and the Gvts.
Hydrogen can also be used as storage battery for the overloads from the offshore windmills or others. Lots of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities as well.
Daimler and Volvo Trucks have developed hydrogen powered trucks as well as the Faun Group,
those trucks/ vehicles are already in use.
Some weeks ago the world wide first 14 hydrogen powered trains (Alston) started their service in Lower Saxony/ Germany.
All along the coast lines electrolyseurs are under construction (wind to power).
The EU27 will replace all fossil fuels (oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Hydrogen can also be used as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc.
Btw, 48% of Germany's electricity gets produced by renewables (wind, solar, water). About 30.000 windmills (including offshore) are doing their work, figures still raising.
France had to shut down half of its nuclear power plants because of low water levels due to the recent heat wave and urgently needed maintenance (still ongoing). About 80% of France's electricity gets produced by nuclear power and the French are heating with electricity. Germany is doing the power back up.
Therefor Germany had to run its nat gas power plants on full power to produce all the extra needed electricity to deliver six times more electricity to France as normally.
The restart of the coal power plants will only be used temporarily as power back up to avoid black outs and supporting the net stability for this winter.
Greetings from Germany
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@stuartgraca It's "the market", as more people want the same, as higher the prices go up (demand/price) like with wood: since the big fires in Canada and Australia, and the Chinese, which brought up a law, forbidding to cut trees for the next 99 years (or something like that), they're buying "the global wood market empty". As in these days everything is done by "global bidding", for example the Chinese are mostly bidding the highest price, to make sure, that they get the wood (urgently needed on the Chinese construction market).
The average construction/ building companies can't hold up to that.
About the fossil fuels, we should talk to Putin, NOT.
The prices for all fossil fuels will go up anyway, as going green is highly on demand. This terrible war is just forcing/speeding up the progress of the EU going green.
Greetings from Germany
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@smokeango The amount of Teslas or other EVs are far less then the amounts of smart phones (might get changed every two years due to contracts), e-scooter, notebooks, digital cameras etc, it's the sum of all which makes it up.
Btw, green hydrogen is already in use for vehicles/trucks, as hydrogen powered vehicles driving distance is about the same as with fuel powered vehicles/ trucks.
Since some months the world wide first 14 hydrogen powered trains (Alston) started their service in Lower Saxony/ Germany as well.
Some brands/ manufacturers of e- cars are using also the "breaking energy", whenever the car is breaking, the energy is feeding/ charging the battery.
The Dutch are developing an e-car, where the tyres (like a dynam on a bike) are "feeding/ re-charging" the battery while driving and the surface of that e- car is done with solar panels.
All along the coast lines electrolyseurs ( wind to power) are under construction .....
The EU27 will replace all fossil fuels ( oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Germany has green hydrogen cooperations with 10 countries world wide as well as the EU27.
The EU27s "going green" is on the way, and technology is progressing all the time 😉
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@ecaeas4439 Well, it's part of the needed procedure, when applying for EU membership. Obviesly it's lots of issues, like human rights, environmental protection (no sewage in rivers etc) free and independent press and justice (recent police law, where people can get imprisoned for 48 hours without seeing a lawyer or judge, free speech and the right to demonstrate without being imprisoned up to ten years), protection of labourship, etc. All those "rights/things" which your Gvt had stripped down since Brexit was done aren't conform with the Copenhagen Criterias, they could only do these things since the UK/GB left the EU.
As you're using the Inet like all of us here, just look up about the Copenhagen Criterias.
But that's not the only thing which has to be done, when a country applies for EU membership, more info about that subject you'll find on the EUs Commission site, they also have a "FAQs" there for quickly needed info.
One thing is for shure, it's not a "quick version" for the UK/GB, applying for EU membership and don't forget, any of the EU27 member states can veto.
Greetings from the EU
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He can't promise anything, which isn't even available, as being in the EUs SM/EEA/CU is available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership...
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
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@jasbindersingh2441 Oh dear 🤣
First of all: Russia is NO Euro country, as the "Euro" is a currency, Russia has Ruble.
In case you're talking about Russia being a "European country on the European Continent", NO, it's not (please look at a map).
Talking about "freedom/liberty" in "anglosphere countries", well assuming the way it's going "over there" with how elections get done "one has to get registered every time for being allowed to vote", how poor and undemocratic is that.
All of us over here in the EUs member states get our "poll papers" automaticly send by post, if wished also to vote via letter, so you don't have to show up at the day of elections at the poll stations, all of that goes automaticly, nobody has to "apply for that", as elections are your "citizens rights", nothing one should have to "apply for every time".
When looking at the UK/GB or the USA, where people can't elect because they can't get registered because of what ever reason, but still calling that "democratic" plus on top the FPTP system, wow, be happy with this crappy, undemocratic system and obey your masters, the unelected Lords and millionaires running your country into the ground for their own benefits, while at the same time there are more foodbanks in the UK now as McDonalds.
Forgot to say, as you wrote "apart from passports which are there for a specific purpose", same goes for ID cards, only difference is, they are much smaller, quite handsome like the "little brother" of the passport. Are you claiming now that "passports are cutting off your liberty"?
Happy Easter 😊
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@ecaeas4439
Stating facts about the EU27 = of which ALL of them are available at the EUs Commission site !! isn't "mixing in to UKs politics" = but rather trying to inform you about EUs criteria ...whether you like those facts or not, as they don't seem to suit you (because of understandable reasons), but still won't change those facts about EUs criteria !!
We know about your Brexit related pains, you're suffering with, as most of us here either are Brits/half Brits or married with Brits or other close relations with Brits = which we explained already various times as well...
As lots of "Remainers" are still dreaming about a quick return into the "EUs SM/EEA" or other "closer alignments/re-negotiations of the TCA" or other = we're stating facts = which are available FOR EVERYBODY at the EUs Commission site...IF ANY OF YOU could be bothered to look up for those facts = discussions about these "dreams" would stop instantly...
Like "joining the EUs SM/EEA" as a 3rd country = NOT possible, because of the =
EEA Agreement= SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY, according to article 126.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
About the TCA some days ago (March 24th 2024) the EUs Commission stated =
"The EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
Also available at the EUs Commission site !!
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
Also available at the EUs Commission site !!
And again ...reading helps...mostly...
Btw, we were talking already years ago about the needed = education about the EU, how it works and what it's for = and especially you, dear eca, were always coming up with the question "what do you mean about education...?" Exactly this = read up about the EUs criteria = for EEA/SM membership, EUs joining criteria etc = which none of you Remainers don't even seem to bother about.....instead of blaming us for ....whatever....
Btw, half of my family are British, of which half of them voted for Brexit...
And the one "with the Bavarian flag" = is a born Brit, living in the EU27, like I do 😎
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@ecaeas4439
Look, since years you are coming up with the same "none facts", like = joining the EUs SM/EEA or an ever closer relationship/aligning towards the EU" = ALL of that is NO OPTION, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years, last time March 2024...
Telling me, that I don't show empathy, how do you know ?!!
What I know for sure is = people, which get false Information on purpose (even from some yt channels) = I think, it's not fair to the people (we had that subject already various times as well), as the people expext something "to be sorted" quick = which won't happen due to the EUs rules = which won't be changed...
We had the "mess" over here as well, weren't even allowed to join at the referendum, but had to live with the consequences...
And again = it's always helpfull to read AND understand at the same time...like about the EUs joining criteria...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@SunbathinginAntarctica
It's NOT a "mean girl attitude" to state facts = of which ALL of them are available at the EUs Commission site !!
Of course people can and SHOULD discuss about "joining the EU again" = but then with PROPER facts, and NOT the "cherry picking" type, like "joining the EUs SM /EEA as a 3rd country, or closer alignments with the EU/two/three tiered EU" = ALL of these "British chosen options" DON'T even exist for 3rd countries or don't exist at all !!
And the EU27 definetely wouldn't change any of their rules to benefit the UKs wishes/demands...it didn't while the Brexit negotiations were ongoing, it won't do it now = as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years !!
On top of that = it would be very nice, that the UKs electorate gets informed/educated about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament with its democratic elected MEPs (with PR), working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens.
Please look up about =
● Copenhagen Criteria
● EEA AGREEMENT article 126
● article 49 TEU
After reading that, a proper discussion about "joining the EU again" will be possible...
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
EVERY EU member state has the right to veto the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining the EU.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently.
And NO, it's NOT "anti British", just simple facts about the = reality, the UK is facing about = joining the EU = and Starmer, as a former prosecutor/lawyer knows those facts = this is why he can't promise anything = as it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when !!
Btw = we don't mix in, when you're "complaining about Brexit", but when remainers coming up with = none existing options for the UK !!
And still none of us understand, why NONE of you simply do a "fact check" at the EUs Commission site 🙄
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@ADifferentBias
Education about the EU is missing, how it works and what it's for, that the EU27 are a ever evolving and developing peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens.
"United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong", THAT are the EU27.
May be you should talk about that as well, about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
Robert Schuman/French Minister/PM, and Friedrich Ebert/first President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the 1920s, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union.
Unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925, Hindenburg followed him as the President of the Weimar Republic, talks about a EUropean Union stopped, the rest is history..
Jean Monnet the other "architect" of the EU and the "creator of the Schuman plan", and Robert Schuman were ongoing with their idea of a European Union..
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
Greetings from the EU27 👋
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@David Green
"The ancient Saxons" arrived 40ish years (about 450 ad) AFTER the Romans had left Brittany (about 410 ad, written down by the Romans, when the last Roman troops left Brittany).
Therefor the "original" ancient Britons/Celtic tribes were there on their own, which is, why they were asking for help/support from the ancient Saxons, to support them fighting against the Picts, which were invading the Britons territory.
In those days 40 years were nearly two complete generations.
When there is a "knowledge transfer interruption", and the original Britons didn't know, how to do the maintenance or even using the Roman infrastructure properly, not even talking about the hate, the Britons had against the Romans (Boudicca - 60/61 ad - comes into mind), those Celtic Briton tribes probably had even destroyed those hated Roman "heritage" themselfes.
Funny though, how you Brits even start to blame "the Normans, the Saxons" or whom ever for your todays politics, instead of doing some "self reflection".
Sigh ...
Forgot to say:
in case you're English, then about 30ish % of your DNA is Saxon, all the "other people" coming into todays England didn't leave any notable DNA in the English DNA (about 10ish % shared by Normans, Frisians, Belgians, Dutch, Danish, Anglians) | research from 2019
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@haveyaseenmiwhippet9069
Oh dear, those figures were from one year ago BEFORE winter 2022/2023, and ALL EU member states had no problems with a "lack of gas", the nat gas buffers were full, and guess what, they are full again 😊
So again, no black outs, no lack of nat gas ...
And opposit to the UK, where some of your people have to have the "choice" to either "heat or eat", us EUropean citizens can "eat and heat" 😊
Btw, since September last year no Russian nat gas imports to the EU27 anymore apart from Hungary. Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands have taken over from Russia with delivering nat gas to the EU27.
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@mrriggy NO.
It's about €2,33 per month/head of us 450ish million EU citizens to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee, it's affordable and appreciated.
Since the UK left the EU, the EU27 are working together much smoother and faster, decisions get done faster as well, and the EU27 have sorted the UKs exit within the EU27 and have moved on.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years...
Before the UK would be able to join the EU27 again, it should sort its internal issues first, a change of mindest within the UK and its people are still urgently needed, education about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament (with PR) with its democratic elected MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens, otherwise the UKs electorate might vote for "leave" again at the following GE, and the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0 " again.
The EU27 aren't a supermarket, where one can choose and pick as wanted, or leaving and joining, depending on the electorates mood...
Greetings from the EU27 👋
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@ecaeas4439
Look, we can talk in circles, rather loops here, it still won't change the criteria, wether you or me might like it or not...
And yes, there are some EU member states, which would veto the UKs application recently.....as it is a fact, that it's the EU27 member states, which decide, which country can join the EU and when...
Those facts are important to know, otherwise it gives wrong hope again...
...Starmer knows those criteria, this is why he can't promise anything to the UKs electorate.....= facts are helpfull, so one can "sort" certain statements/like the ones from Starmer, to make proper decisions, and not being p off about him, that he is a "traitor", because he doesn't "promise the UKs electorate to quickly get back into the EU etc"....that simple it is...
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@ecaeas4439
I described the "education" = EU has a democratic elected Parliament...that the EUs Council = the EUs member states Gvts and the democratic elected MEPs are the rule/law/decision makers in the EU etc, etc....
...and NOT crap like "the Belgians" are ruling the EU, the "unelected bureaucrats are the decision makers", the "4th Reich /EUSSR" blah, blah, blah and other crap...and not to forget the "continiously collapsing EU"...
This is, where "education about the EU, how it works and what it's for" is urgently needed...
That the EU is a peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states, with its SM included...to benefit the EUs citizens...
That it was Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament.
And about Jean Monnet, the other "architect " of the EU = the "Schuman plan"....etc, etc...
Look, over here in the EU kids get educated about the EU already at school.....how it works and what it's for...
And again, why should EU citizens care about the recent situation within the UK, as it's all self inflicted...and they are not "ignorant", as that is rather the British attitude by not accepting the EUs rules/criteria for joining and doing the usual "cherry picking"...
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@shuggiemcg1
...."I hopefully get the chance to vote return"...
Well, the EU27 decide, which country can join the EU and when....
to join the EU goes like that:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly ( if not done properly the process of joining will stop instantly), which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU MEMBER STATES to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
The UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@jackreacher5667
No, when the UK joined the first time, the Copenhagen Criteria didn't even exist, as they were introduced with the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 only.
The UK never complied with the Copenhagen Criteria, and since it left 4,5 years ago, it has changed/stripped down various laws/regulations/restrictions, which need to be implemented properly again, plus a written Constitution would be needed...as ALL EUs laws have to be written into the Constitution...
But again, it's not up to the UK to decide, as ALL 27 EUs member states plus 10 regional Parliaments have a right to veto, and right now there are various EUs member states which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
UK is NATO member state, like most EU27 and EFTA member states as well...therefor THAT isn't a "joining bonus" at all...
Also different = ALL NEW EU member states have to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy..therefor there is a national debt below 60 % needed as one of the applying criteria..
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@Peter Mizon Simple, the £350 million (on the red bus) never existed, as there was only £180 million, because of the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher. Deduct all EU subsidies the UK/ GB received, from that sum, the loss of trading being an EU member (trading with EU27 plus the existing trading deals the EU has world wide with 77 country's, and all extra costs for providing border/customs and other Services, which used to be part of "EUs membership services". Not to forget, to leave the worlds largest trading market was definetely the wrong decision, especially in in these times, where its best to be in a strong union of partners.
Greetings from the EU 😉
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@Jezza_One
Seven years after the referendum and 3,5 years after Brexit you're still coming up with the same crap, which was used to get you Brits to vote "leave"...
Same as the EU isn't "collapsing", nor other propaganda myth...
Btw, Turkiye is "candidate for EU membership" since 1999, all on hold, since Turkiye still hasn't fullfilled severe issues, like protection of human rights/womens rights, independent justice, free speech/press etc and still is occupying parts of Cyprus, etc, etc, as long those issues aren't "sorted", there won't be any progress ongoing...
Same goes for various other candidates for EU membership...
About the "EU army" = Nato
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@jezlawrence720
Well, lets say it this way: why should "the EU27" bother about a third country, the UK?
Brexit is done from the point of EUs view, now with the "NIP/Windsor agreement" signed recently, some days later one of the EUs spokesmen stated "that issue should be sortet for at least ten years".
Nobody over here in the EU27 is talking about Brexit anymore, not even in the news.
Why do I and some others here in the commenters list bother?
As my London born spouse and I had quite some "trouble" caused by Brexit (weren't even allowed to vote at the referendum), to get dual citizenship etc, and of course, having friends and family in the UK.
If I didn't have those "connections", it wouldn't bother me one bit anymore.
The EU27 has moved on in the last 7 years, but the UK/GB is stuck in Brexsh£t, and it will go on like that, I'm afraid...
All the best to you with greetings from the EU27 😊
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@jezlawrence720
I know, this is why I've explained the economical aspect of that in my first post to you, in my second I wrote about the problems /to much efforts EUropean logistic companies have to get truck drivers which are willing to sit for days/nights in their trucks to get the goods into the UK, and my third post to you was about that the EU27 doesn't bother anymore, logistic companies included.
I just listed the facts, nothing to do with being "defensiv".
Again, the UK has brought itself into this situation, the EU27 negotiators/Commission have warned the UK/GB all along the Brexit negotiations up to the last minute, even offered to put the whole Brexit procedure on hold, or strech out the transition period etc, but the UK/GB Gvt and its negotiators were "urgent" to get it done as fast as possible in this way it exists now.
All the best to you with greetings from the EU27 😊
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@anglosaxon4571
The English DNA is by about 30ish % of Saxon DNA, all the other people coming over into todays England didn't leave any notable DNA in the English DNA.
Another 10ish % of the English DNA is shared from ancient tribes from Danish/Jutes, Belgians, Dutch, Frisians, Normans, Swedish.
About 2-4 % of the European peoples DNA are Neanderthal's DNA 😊
The Celts were originally living at todays areas of Austria, Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg/Germany, Switzerland and partly France.
About 1.000 years later the Celts moved on towards todays Ireland and the UK.
The territories of the ancient Saxons are todays Federal States of Lower Saxony, Bremen, Hamburg and partly Saxony-Anhalt ( only the Saxony part).
Todays federal state of Saxony is by name only Saxon, as it got its name due to in those days usual wedding politics, the people of todays Saxony are the descendants of the ancient Slavic tribes.
So much to your being "real" English".... AngloSaxon 😅
Greetings from the ancient territories of the Saxons = Bremen 😊👋
Us humans always had been "on tour " 😅😎
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@johnrussell3961 There never was a "soft or hard" Brexit available, as there is only "in or out" the EU or EFTA.
The "fairy tale/ cherry picking" idea of the Tory's, to stay in the SM without any of the coming rules with it (which in your/their eyes would be a "soft" Brexit), like the four freedoms (free movement of goods, people, services, capital within the EU) including paying a "member fee" and accepting the European High Court was the problem of that issue all along the Brexit negotiations, as the British negotiators were demanding continiusly exactly and only that: full access to the SM without any of the duties coming with it.
Either because of arrogance or non- understanding, how the EU and the SM works, especially as the SM is the core/ heart of the EU and therefor strongly protected, the British Gvt (and the people) has/ have to understand, that here never will be any other options as EFTA or full EU membership available, as bitter it is. All that was explained/declared by the EU negotiators continiusly, the EU27 even offered up to the last minute of Brexit negotiations and up to the end of the transition period, that if wanted, Brexit could be stopped. The British Gvt refused continiusly that offer.
That's it, the books are closed.
Greetings from the EU
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@geoffadams8912
Again: EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states, according to article 126.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
EU membership issues don't get negotiated at Davos...
EU membership doesn't get negotiated, but goes like this:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly ( if not done properly, joining process stops instantly), which could take decades.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years, they know due to experience of other countries joining process.
As stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen, the UK is welcome to join the EU again, UNDER THE KNOWN CONDITIONS = article 49 TEU.
All Infos are available at the EUs Commission site...
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@Deepthought 42
I'm sorry to say, there never existed a "hard or soft Brexit", as it's either "in or out" the EU.
What you (and parts of the British Gvt) call a "soft Brexit = access to the SM without the duties coming with it (the four freedoms: free movement of goods, people, services, capital), the "membership fee" and accepting the European High Court was/ is the "fairy tale/cherry picking" and non understanding of the EU by your Gvt and the British people. There is severe education needed about the EU, how it works and what its all about should start already at school.
If you're interested, have a look up about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", whos idea of an European Union started in the 1920s.
Greetings from the EU
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@Deepthought-42 Good morning and thanks for your response 😉
I'm really sorry for all of those in the UK/GB, which wanted to stay in the EU and enjoying being an EU citizen!
The UK/GB Gvt even tighented it up for everybody, who would have like to have a dual citizenship.
Dual citizenship AFTER the UK/GB left the EU isn't possible anymore.
I know about that, because "my" London born spouse and I went to a lawyer for "rights of immigration" before Brexit was installed, she told us, that as soon the UK/GB has left the EU, the UK/GB wouldn't allow dual citizenship anymore. Therefor "my" spouse applied for it straight away. The authorities over here extra installed a "fast track = application only took two months, as they were doing all the check ups parallel at all needed institutions and not, like usually done, one after the other" just for the Brits living here and they were also sending out information letters, to warn about the Brexit consequences. Only in "our" community there were about 30 % more immigrants applying for citizenship, all of them were Brits. Each one had to do a short "self introduction", many of them (in front of all of us/family/friends etc incl the major, civil cervants and other authorities) lost their temper, it was heart braking.
I wish you all the best with greetings from Bremen 😉
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@emmabird9745 Hi Emma, you're correct, we have to do more, all of us! But Britain is definately in a terrible situation. Was a bit of a shock, when one of our friends near Nottingham told me about that recently, as we here on the Continent thought, that Britain is fine with energy (at least that), but its not. I'm very sorry about that! About the "back to coal power plants", without this terrible war there would have been no need for that backwords decision at all, as EU/ Germany is heading towards green energy anyway. All the best for you, greetings from Bremen 😉
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@martinbennett2228
Well, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen over and over again/since Brexit, there are only two options available "full EU membership or EFTA membership", of which the latter isn't available anymore, as written before...
EEA Agreement = "SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU member states and EFTA member states"...".... the EEA Agreement according to article 128 of the Agreement"...
Ukraine doesn't have "an agreement", but has the status as a "candidate for EU membership"... same as Turkiye, Serbia, Montenegro, etc, etc,.... therefor NOT comparable at all..
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@martinbennett2228
I posted that snippet of the EEA Agreement, so you can see the criteria... Not to "discuss" various "options", ...
To use Ukraine as example is wrong. .as Ukraine is at war...without being at war it wouldn't even be a "candidate for EU membership" yet, as it didn't fulfill the Copenhagen Criteria, but having this "status quo", the EUs Commission can use different "pots" of money to support Ukraine, as it's not even a EU member state..
Please use Google by typing "EU Institutions/FAQs, and all needed infos are popping up....as the EUs institutions are very open and visible, treaties included...
And as usual and expected, cherry picking before even being in the EU again..
Why do you think, that 27 countries with their 450ish million citizens would "change" its own rules, just to benefit the UKs demands...
Forgot to say, the UK has the TCA and the NIP/Windsor agreement with the EU27, and it would be very nice, if it finally would implement those deals it has with the EU ..."REVIEW " will happen in 2025...NOT a "re-negotiation" though...
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@crackerbarrel210
I'm sorry to say = "the EU27" don't have Feelings, as it's a rule based organisation/union of 27 independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens.
While the Brexit negotiations were ongoing, the EUs negotiators offered and warned the UK, that "leaving the EU will cause massive damage for the UKs people and economy", but, as we know now, the UKs gvt went ahead...
As stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times as well "no exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine being at war....
If you have any other chance to leave the UK, then I would do so !!
I wish you all the best with greetings from the EU27/Germany 🖐
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@markperrin8098
How poor it is, that you're banging on GDPs the whole time, while British kids are suffering with scurvy and rickets...the "results" of that will stay with them for the rest of their lifes...
What you Brits still don't seem to understand, ALL EU member states and the EUs Parliament have the PR voting system, therefor 80+ % of ALL EU citizens DON'T vote the right wing....opposit to the UK, where 34 % can get a majority of 80 seats, with its unelected Lords and unelected PMs, the crappy FPTP voting system, the lose collection of papers called "Constitution", and since 2022 the "separation of powers " got changed to "the PM can dissolve the Parliament on his own "...ahhh, a true democracy" UK is 😂😎
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@markperrin8098
Please look up for Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg ( at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament.
His book "for Europe " is available at the EUs Commission....
Please look up for Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU = the "Schuman plan".
The EU27 are in permanent change/progress the whole time, as agreed already at the treaty of Rome in 1957 and confirmed again at the Maastricht treaty in 1992.
The EU27 are a peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
"United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong, THAT are the EU27". 😊
This is what Brits never understood, until today...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@markperrin8098 Oh dear...
comparing the USSR with the EU27...is the confirmation of what I wrote "until today you Brits still don't seem to understand the EU, how it works and what it's for"
Be happy with your crumbling raac buildings, potholes in the roads, disappearing NHS converting into a private health system US style, food banks for hospital staff at hospitals, stripped down protection of employee rights, environment, banking, striking and demonstrating rights, sewage in all British waters, heat or eat issues, raising cases of rickets and scurvy, etc...
Thanks again for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 🖐
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UK can't "gravitate back" to Brussels...as it's either "in" or "out"...UK is "out" = a 3rd country now = 3rd country rules apply!!
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission).
The UK has the TCA with the EU27, and it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement properly those deals, it signed with the EU27 4,5 years ago !!
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up ".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
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@annerigby4400 😊
Exactly, Farage thought, as been married (at that time) to a German would be enough to claim for German citizenship.
My London born spouse had to apply for German citizenship (we took advice from a lawyer specialised on immigration/citizenship issues, she recommended the "best" version: citizenship, if possible, so we did).
The Gvts immigration office will send you a "huge pile of forms/papers", which have to be filled in by the applicant, one of the long list of questions is "where have you been living (including approx. times/adresses etc), which gets checked by the German authorities 😊, that's it, done 🤣
As in Germany EVERYBODY living here (wether German or other) HAS TO BE REGISTERED (of course not tourists or people living here short time), therefor it's a "pretty quick one" to be checked 🤔 😊.
Now it might sound "frightening", that the Gvt knows, where one is living, the positive effect is, that one gets ALWAYS the poll papers (nobody has to apply for it), as well as lots of other needed papers.
Back to the "party" at civil servants offices, probably not too many had seen Farage's application, because what gets checked first is the "criminal backround" and "since when is the applicant living here".
Have a nice day with greetings from Germany 😊
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Well, they never existed because of the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher, it were £180 million only, if you deduct the EU subsidies, it's down to £120 million, if you deduct the costs for, since Brexit needed infrastructure, like customs/border staff/infrastructure, civil services/servants etc, plus the huge losses of trading due to Brexit..., the UK ended up with a loss of £100 billion per year since Brexit |Bloomberg
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@jamesgunn5103 🤣😎
Sure...., "the EU" is collapsing again since decades at any minute... oh dear... you Brits are funny, one couldn't make it up..🤣,.... be happy on your Plague Island with your sewage poluted British waters, your crumbling raac buildings, potholes in the roads, disappearing NHS, converting into a private health system US style, food banks for hospital staff at hospitals, stripped down protection of labourship, environment, banking, striking and demonstrating etc, etc....... 🤣
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Well, the UK signed the TCA with the EU27 4,5 years ago and it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement properly those deals, it signed with the EU27.
Some weeks ago the EUs Commission stated/analogous "that the EU is very happy with the TCA, that it's very balanced for BOTH sides, and that the Commission is taking care of further implementation of the TCA at the REVIEW coming up".
The EUs Commission started an infringement procedure against the UK recently, as it still hasn't implemented properly any of the deals, it signed with the EU27.
Starmer got informed about that subject, when visiting the EU27.
"No deal will be as good or even better than being EU member state" !!
The UK left the EU27 on its own free will, therefor is a 3rd country now = 3rd country rules apply !!
Being in EUs SM/EEA/CU is available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
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@Faluzeer
Yeahh, that were the fairy tale dreams of the Brexitters only, to think, that everything changes for mainland Continental EUropeans only, but nothing for the Brits.
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
On top of that all 4 EFTA member states have about 16ish million people living there, the UK has about 67ish million people, that would outbalance the EFTA members, which isn't wanted !!
The EUs Commission is stating since years, that a "Swiss deal" won't happen anymore, as it is "too much hassle".
Leaving the EU automaticly includes leaving the EUs SM/EEA/CU...as they're membership perks only.
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@Paul-eb4jp Yeah, all sounds great, but do you really believe, that after all of this "huzzle", the EU27 and their negotiators went through in the last six years (not to forget the millions of Euros, the EU27 invested for restructuring the 40 years existing trade infrastructures etc), employing people (customs, borders etc), after all of that the EU27 are saying: allright UK, you've made a wrong decision/ mistake, come home into the European family when ever you like?!
Doesn't work like that. There is a huge loss of trust towards the UK/ GB, I guess. It's a very sad story actually.
Btw, yes, unfortunately the UK/ GB was problematic. Have you ever watched the EU Parliament at work? The British EPMs were behaving like the "bad boy in the last bench" at school, disturbing the whole class trying to follow the lesson. The applause from the EPMs was massive when the British EPMs left for ever the EU Parliament.
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@vereferreus5262 NO.
Please look up about Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
Robert Schuman/French Minister/PM and Friedrich Ebert/first President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the 1920s, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union, unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925, Hindenburg followed him as the President of the Weimar Republic, talks about a EUropean Union stopped, the rest is history..
Please look up about Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU and the creator of the "Schuman plan".
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
The Treaty of Rome set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a common market based on the free movement of goods, people, services and capital.
Churchill jumped on an already existing train, same as Thatcher...
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@georgestewart3924
Being in EUs SM/EEA/CU is available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement !!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Apart from, that all 4 EFTA member states have about 16ish million people living there, the UK has about 67ish million people, that would outbalance the EFTA members, which isn't wanted !!
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), but, as written before = the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
And neither Starmer nor any other UKs politicians/party can promise anything, which isn't up to the UK anyway, but up to the EU27 only !!
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@davidwebb4451
Oh dear...
All Barnier offered at the Brexit negotiations was = EFTA membership = where it's possible, to stay in the EUs SM/EEA and CU...
But UKs negotiators were refusing that option, because, as EFTA member = each member has to pay the membership fee, FOM is included, and all EU rules have to be followed without "sitting at the table"....THAT wasn't wanted by UKs gvt, as they thought, that UK gets EUs membership benefits = for free 😂
The EEA = ISN'T an "agreement", but the EUs = European Economic Area = the EUs Single Market, it's the CORE of the EU = therefor is highly protected !!
The British exceptionlism is huge again here...
All what's "on offer" for the UK, is = full EU membership !!
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently...
About ALL needed JOINING EUs criteria PLEASE LOOK UP ABOUT =
article 49 TEU
Btw, whatever was on offer at the Brexit negotiations = it was on offer FOR A LEAVING EU MEMBER STATE = now UK is a 3rd country = 3rd country rules apply = if UK wants to join the EU27 again = it has to start from the scratch, like all other 3rd countries !!
Our club, our rules !!
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@aaronwinegar9724
Yes, the EU is a peace project..which the UK/and most of its people, the Brits, never really appreciated, but saw it as a trading block only.
You might think, that everything I wrote, is "from the view of a EU citizen only", you're wrong.
Why?
Because I only wrote facts, ALL available at the EUs Commission site...where the "access criteria/joining procedure" are all openly readable, even the treaties, the UK has with the EU are readable there...
As I also mentioned the "statements done by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen", they were on TV/media over here, because...
...opposit to the UKs media, where "the EU" exists only, when UKs politicians/or media are doing the usual "EU bashing" by blaming it, when UKs national politics went wrong, but NOT to show the advantages of the EU....
...while over here in the EU member states "the EU" is visible daily, on TV/Inet, statements are done/published regular by EUs spokesmen/negotiators (ahh, like the ones about the UK/Brexit related issues 😎), the EUs Parliament, when having important issues to discuss/debate, it's transmitted on TV/Inet, including subtitles... therefor us EU citizens are pretty well up to date about "EU issues"....😊
Like today is a debate about "EUs sanctions against Russia/status quo/effects of it, etc 😊
Again, when Barnier stated "the EUs doors are always open for the UK to join the EU again.....UNDER THE KNOWN CONDITIONS ", the UKs "Remainers" tend to "overlook" the second part of his statement, same as they overlook permanently, THAT IT'S UP TO THE EU27, to decide, which country can join the EU and when, but NOT the UK.
The mentioned CONDITIONS I've written down already, including the estimated time needed for joining the EU (GOES FOR ANY 3RD COUNTRY)....15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria...etc...
As another two years are going by until the next GE will happen, the Tory's will probably do much more damage to the UK and will move away even more from the Copenhagen Criteria... which will make it even more difficult...So put those years on top of the 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria....
But, you'll find out...
It also would be a good idea, that the UK finally implements all those treaties properly, which it signed on free will with the EU/the TCA and NIP/Windsor agreement, instead of demanding already opt outs before even being a EU member.
The very British exceptionlism is showing up again..."you/EU need us more than we/UK need you 😒
Again, Brexit/UK isn't even a subject anymore over here in the EU27... last news were "when the Triathlon was on in the UK, where those poor athlets had to swim in British sh£t".
Why are these people here on this channel?
Because most of us are involved with Brexsh£t, one way or the other... having family/friends in the UK, or being a Brit themselfs, living over here in the EU...
My London born spouse and I have been to the UK last in 2016, as my spouse stated "no need to go there"... says it all ...
Please look up at the EUs Commission site...
Or you just type in "criteria for joining the EU"... and ALL needed infos pop up... sooo easy it is, but, it looks like, that most of Brits prefer endless discussions, about "what the EU have to change to benefit the UKs demands" 😳😒
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Yes, I know, as I'm a EU citizen myself....living in the EU27 !!
The UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently..
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years.
EVERY EU member state has the right to veto the UK joining the EU, one veto is enough to stop the whole process of joining the EU.
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
It's about €2,33 per month/head of us 450ish million EU citizens to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee, it's affordable 😎
The UK had its "Brit bargain " since Thatcher, and was one of those EU member states, which was demanding opt outs virtually all the time, while being EU member state...up to the last minute...like when Cameron spoke with the EUs negotiators, demanding to stop FOM, but for Continental EUropeans only, not though for the Brits, while "threatening" the EUs negotiators with a Brexit referendum at the same time !! 😂
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@indricotherium4802 NO.
After the he financial crisis in 2008 the EU27 have changed some joining criteria, like the "max national debt" an applying country must have...
All those criteria/facts, I've stated, had been parts either of the EUs joining criteria/ALL available at the EUs Commission site, or were statements given by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since Brexit happened.
Again = the UK's chance, to "join the EU in a fast track process" is NOT possible...
The EUs joining process aren't negotiations, but it goes like that =
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if not done properly, joining process stops instantly.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs for any country in the world, not even for Ukraine being at war, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy !!
The UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria at the moment...
EUs joining criteria =
article 49 TEU
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Oh dear... it doesn't matter really, if the UK is positionened on the Continent or not, the outcome would be the same = Brexit is no issue anymore over here in the EU27, not in the media, nor within the people...apart from those few, which are having family or friends in the UK...as Brexit was 4 years ago, the referendum happened 8 years ago... 🙄
The EUs joining criteria are visible at the EUs Commission site
And again, it might be of a benefit for the UK, to join the EU again...but still doesn't change the facts, that the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment..
And to call a EUropean citizen, living in the EU27 a "Brexiteer" is quite 😂
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@tt-ew7rx OK.
Well, there were "powers" to make the UK leave ...as there was a documentary done by Tom Costello, an US investigativ journalist, who did research in the UK... there were these people "pulling the strings behind the curtains", Richard Tice, Alan Banks, the guy from JCB, Cambridge analytica and various other right wing think tanks in UK, Steve Bannon (ex consultant of Trump and ex boss of Breitbart), and various others...
Unfortunately this documentary can't be played in the UK, as we've tried various times, but it doesn't play...
With Ukraine joining the EU, there won't be any "fast track" or other, because (also stated by various EU spokesmen), the EU has the same military alliance agreement as Nato has, therefor no country "being at war, or having other tensions with other countries or being partly occupied" can join the EU nor Nato.
A candidate for EU membership has to have a stabile enough economy/democracy/no corruption etc... Ukraine is nowhere near those needed criteria...same as before the war started...
About Ukrainian grain.... can't be sold into the EU, because Ukrainian farmers are still using pesticides, which aren't allowed in the EU anymore.
That grain, which ended up in Poland, was done due corruption, Poland was in duty to "monitor/guard" the grain transport via Poland towards EU ports...
On top of that: there are elections coming up in Poland this year October... the ruling PIS party urgently needs more "people, which elect them", because they are "on the edge of loosing", farmers tend to vote conservative...so "make a big fuzz about that issue"...
And who knows, what Poo-tin is doing, to "destabilise" the EU
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@colinpenaluna9268
All car manufacturers are in transition going green, therefor the infrastructure of their production plants has to be changed (like BMW in Oxford etc), while still going on building combustion engine cars... all car manufacturers are also working on advanced EVs batteries, like without Lithium etc.
An EV needs much less parts for the motor, combustion engine has about 1.400 parts, while an EV has about 200 parts only... all not that easy, but possible with a lot of efford... less parts for the motor includes less need of suppliers, less workforce, less car repair shops etc...
There is a "run" on "who is first" on those "new" EVs markets, world wide... China is pushing with huge subsidies to keep the prices the lowest to take over in the world, this is why the US and EU have "installed" a "package" of money/subsidies as well...
The EU27 is also planning, to "install" some Tarifs for Chinese EVs, because of "distortion of competition"...
You were asking "why is the car market not booming", well, most people are still "waiting" for better infrastructure/charging points, lower prices, longer driving distances for EVs, as it's "still" a technology in its "toddler years"... Most people also still have their combustion engine cars, which are doing fine...
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@visionmodernclassics Ok, soweit, so gut 👍
Ich kann lediglich über Erfahrungswerte berichten: E-Auto: zu kalte Temperaturen, die "Ladung/Reichweite" reduziert sich je nach Marke ziemlich stark, zu heisse Aussentemperaturen (Sommer 2018, ca 38°C), die Akkus wollten/konnten nicht laden, da Aussentemperaturen zu hoch.
Wasserstoffauto: doppelte Reichweite, keine Probleme egal bei welcher Aussentemperatur.
Gut ausgebautes Tankstellennetz, ausbaubar auch für Wasserstoff, trotz der 700 bar.
Übrigens, mal als Beispiel Berlin: fast alle gemeldeten PKW parken auf der Straße, folglich wäre es nur sinnvoll, wenn JEDER öffentliche Parkplatz zeitgleich eine E-Ladesäule erhält, immer mit dem selben Ladesystem, zahlbar mit Karte/App, aber nicht pro Ladesäule anderes Zahl- und/ oder Ladesystem.
Übrigens, schau mal bitte unter "Faun Group" die fahren bereits problemlos seit Jahren mit Wasserstoff. Und ...
Frohes Neues Jahr 😉
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@emm_arr
The EU27 are a ever evolving and developing peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht treaty in 1992.
The treaty of Rome = set up the EEC bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a common market based on the free movement of goods, people, services, capital.
Please look up for Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
His book "for Europe" is available at the EUs Commission site book shop.
Please look up for Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU = the "Schuman plan".
"United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong", THAT are the EU27 😊
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@GammonBrexitNews Yes.
When being a EU member, the check ups were done anywhere at the EUs outside border, and then could easily and frictionless distributed anywhere within the SM.
Now (just goes for the UK), if a container or whatever is adressed to go to the UK, the EU border/customs authorities will
put a "seal" onto it, without checking it, but to make sure, that it doesn't end up "unchecked" anywhere in the SM.
When containerships are coming from lets say, Shanghai, they stop in Bremerhaven, get unloaded, some containers go onto smaller containerships towards the UK, all unchecked, but "sealed".
Unfortunately the UKs Gvt didn't bother to install proper border police/customs check ups...
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@jonathanbradshaw2575
They're EFTA member states, and stated already years ago, that "they would veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a trouble maker in their club".
Apart from, that all 4 EFTA member states have about 16ish million people living there, the UK has about 67ish million people, that would outbalance the EFTA members, which isn't wanted !!
No political circumstances are changing the EUs joining criteria ...
The UK has the TCA with the EU27, and it would be very nice, if the UK would finally implement those deals properly, it signed with the EU27 5 years ago !!
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@jonathanbradshaw2575
Well, I have an "issue" with the UK, because half of my family are British living in England, of which half of them voted for Brexit !!
My London born spouse and I are living in the EU27 and tried our best to inform our British family and friends about the EU, how it works and what it's for...but they voted for it anyway...
About "Europe" = you're still living in Europe, as that is a Continent with 47 countries, of which 27 are EU member states, another 4 are EFTA members, 9 have the status as a candidate for EU membership, and another 7 are 3rd countries, of which one of them is the UK.
The EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of 27 independent and souvereign countries with their 450ish million citizens.
For EVERY 3rd country, which would like to join the EU the same rules apply = EUs joining criteria article 49 TEU.
No political circumstances will change those EUs joining criteria !!
The EU27 changed some joining criteria due to the financial crisis in 2008, hence 3rd countries need to have a national debt of max < 60 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently.
That alone will take ages to reduce...
Our club, our rules !!
If a country, which would like to join the EU doesn't like those rules, which are known upfront, well, then it should stay out of that club...
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@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
Well, at the same time, when the Brexit negotiations started, the EU and Switzerland did their usual "negotiations" again, as Switzerland has a "special EFTA deal", which includes about 100+ Single treaties, which, whenever the EU is changing/updating any of its rules/laws, have to be adjusted with Switzerland.
Last time it didn't work out very well, because Switzerland started to "cherry pick", therefor the EU negotiators put that issue "on hold", but more important: the EU spokesmen stated, that for the future there will be only two options available, either full EU membership or EFTA membership, but no more "treaties" like Switzerland has, because of "too much hassle".
About EFTA: Norway stated various times, that it'll veto the UK/GB joining the EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
In fact the only way for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria first, if none of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the negotiations with the EU would start, by "working through" the 35 chapters, which could take decades.
For ALL NEW EU members (ex members, like the UK, included) it will be mandatory to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the economy of that EU member state is stabile enough.
No "fast tracks", no exceptions for any country in the world as stated recently by the EU Commission.
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@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
Hmmm, THAT is "cherry picking par excellence".
Because "the UK" doesn't like/agree to the options available, it wants to "create" another option... with "bits and pieces" from EFTA and EU membership.
Won't work, as written before: two options are available, EFTA membership or EU membership, that's it...
Tell me, WHY should 27 EU member states plus 3 EFTA member states with about 465 million people living there "bend" to a not very trustworthy country/UK, which hasn't even implemented any of the treaties it signed on free will with the EU after leaving the EU, also on free will, why should those 31 countries bother about the UKs
"selfimplemented Brexit desaster".
Don't get me wrong, I'm very sorry for all of those, which didn't want this, for the others: not.
My London born spouse had to get dual citizenship because of Brexit. Half of our family and friends are living in England, but ... the British people have to sort "their sh£t" from within, better education about the EU, how it works and what it's for is urgently needed, before anybody over there should even think about "joining the EU/EFTA"...
Why?
Because "the EU27" wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0" at the next British GE ... the EU isn't a "revolving door", but a union of 27 souvereign and independent member states and their citizens.
"United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong"
THAT is "the EU27" 😊
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Problem about this subject is, that's not even on the table over here in the EU.... since these 12 EUs citizens from France/Germany had a "brainstorming" about this subject "two tiered EU", which has been on the table last in 2013, and never again since...
not to forget, Macron is the French PM and DOESN'T speak for the EU, like Guy Verhofstadt, brilliant MEP, but when holding a speech at "re-joining marches" in the UK, he is speaking NOT in the name of the EU, but as a PRIVATE person only.
Other problem here is, that it seems, that many people/Brits here still don't seem to understand, how the EU works.... the SM is the core/heart of the EU and therefor highly protected....
If the EU would "open its arms" and invite so called "associated/two tiered none EU members/3rd countries" to be IN THE SM, THAT would be the end of the EU, and therefor it's obsolet, to even think "hypothetically" about this not even existing option.
It still goes like this "no deal will be as good or even better than being EU member".
Add on: as stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators "it will take Ukraine minimum 10-15 years AFTER war, before it would be able to join EU".... btw, the Ukrainian grain can't be sold into the EU recently, because Ukrainian farmers are still using pesticides, which aren't allowed in the EU anymore. The grain, which had been sold "black" into the Polish market, was possible only because of corruption.
Ukraine biggest market for grain still is Africa....
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Hungary has been stripping down various rights/laws, like the protection of human rights/womens rights, independent justice, free speech/press etc, therefor Hungary doesn't receives its EU subsidies anymore until its going allong with the Copenhagen Criteria/human rights etc again....
Therefor Orban is using his one voice veto right to block every EUs decision to be made, which every EU member state has, because he tries to blackmail the EU, when the "one voice decisions" have to be done. . Orban wants "his money/EU subsidies" if not = he's blocking the EU27...the EUs law allows, to withdraw a countries "veto/voice", in case of getting/being antidemocratic/corrupt or other...
The EU26 have been declared Hungary to be a "none fully democracy" anymore ...
Btw, the EU27 just have put up € ONE TRILLION for "going green"...
"Red tape" doesn't exiist within the EUs SM/EEA, as that is the meaning of the EUs SM/EEA, but there is lots of red tape for 3rd countries, like the UK is now 😂
Thanks for Brexiting with greetings from the EU27 👋
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NO.
Please look up for Wolfspeed, a US company which is building a gigafactory for semi conductors at the Federal State of Saarland/Germany
Infenion near Dresden
Bosch near Dresden
TSMC (Taiwanese company which will build a gigafactory for micro chips) at Silicon Saxony near Dresden
Intel near Magdeburg
Northvolt near Hamburg
Ford near Cologne
VW is building 3 gigafactories for EVs batteries, one at Lower Saxony/Germany, one in Sweden in cooperation with Northvolt and one in Spain or Portugal
Please look up for the "clean hydrogen coast line", a project run by the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany, Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven is involved as well, all subsidiesed by the EU and gvts
Fraunhofer Institute Bremerhaven = hydrogen lab
Arcelor-Mittal Bremen steel mill and Saarstahl steel mill received €1,3 billion EU subsidies to build their own electrolyseurs/windmills and arc furnaces running on green hydrogen, to produce green steel in the near future
Since 2022 the worlds first 14 hydrogen powered trains (Alstom) started their service in Lower Saxony/Germany
The EU27/Germany will replace all fossil fuels (oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Hydrogen can be used as storage battery for the overloads from the offshore windmills and others as well as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc as well.
Lots of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities as well.
Electrolyseurs (wind to power) are under construction everywhere as well.
The EUs :"green deal" has a value of € ONE TRILLION for going green 😊
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@ryanfraley7113
Errr...NO.... but those are the FACTS, which lots of REMAINERS
don't want/like to hear !!
This "very British attitude/call it exceptionlism", to think, that "the EU27" are waiting with open arms, to "take back/into the EU" the UK without following the EU rules... which are there for a reason !!.... is, as said before, the very British exceptionlism again....unfortunately as strong within the Remainers as well as within the Brexiteers... eventhough both are heading into a different direction...
ALL needed infos/criteria needed for "joining the EU" are available at the EUs Commission site...
BEFORE applying for EU membership again, it would be very helpfull and urgently needed, is to educate the British people about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a democratic elected Parliament (with PR) with its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens.
That the EUs Council = the EUs member states Gvts and the democratic elected MEPs are deciding about ALL the EUs rules/laws etc...
And again, "joining the EU goes like that :
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if NONE of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (if not done properly, joining process stops instantly), which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EUs negotiators/spokesmen various times since years.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
Again: the UK left the EU27 on its own will and is a 3rd country now, which has to follow 3rd country rules...like all the otver 109+ 3rd countries world wide...
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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@GammonBrexitNews
As soon as a 3rd country citizen would leave the country he is working in with a working visa/permit (lets say Bulgaria), he would be a 3rd country citizen again in every other of the EU member states with full implementation of the 90/180 days rule, but NO FOM, no working permit.
FOM means, that any EU citizen can work/live in any of the 27 EU member states as long it's wanted, wherever it's wanted.
This is part of the "four freedoms" = free movement of goods, people, services, capital and is available only with EU membership, including membership of the SM...
Therefor NO single agreement/deal is possible with one or more EU member states to agree on FOM with the UK, as NO Single EU member state can agree on FOM with a third country/UK, nor will a 3rd country have access to the SM or FOM, as it's available for EU members.
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@mattjones1207
I can see your pain, but :
never ever 😅
You know, why he got refused?
Farage applied for German citizenship (his ex-wife and kids are German), when filling in the papers (lots of papers, knowing that, because my London born spouse had to get dual citizenship because of Brexit), he was cheating at the question "since when are you living in Germany "... he wrote in the adress of his ex- brother in law and wrote in wrong figures, obviously not knowing, that EVERY person, living in Germany, has to register latestly two weeks after moving into a new appartement etc at the local authorities (because of tax, which has to be paid, where one is living, not where one is working)....
Ahhh, of course he's never been registered anywhere in Germany AND on top of that, one has to live here for 5-8 years, before one can apply for citizenship, like in every other country as well 😊
He really isn't the "brightest candle on the cake", as we're saying over here 😅
I don't know though, if he's banned to visit Germany as a tourist, but getting citizenship is banned on him for years 🤣
Therefor I'm sorry, that Germany can't help you in this case...
Have a nice day with greetings 😚🖐
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@emm_arr
Well, Germany is one of the SIX EUs founder members, Copenhagen Criteria were introduced in 1992/Maastricht Treaty...Not comparable at all anymore...
Btw, Robert Schuman/French Minister/PM, and Friedrich Ebert/first President of the Weimar Republic, were meeting already in the 1920s, to talk about peace and the EUropean Union, unfortunately Friedrich Ebert died unexpected due to a rupture of the appendix in 1925.
Hindenburg followed him as the President of the Weimar Republic, talks about a EUropean Union stopped...the rest is history...
All I can say = Starmer is 62, and his statement, that UK won't join in his lifetime...simply due to EUs joining criteria and UKs recent status quo..
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@emm_arr NO.
This is one of the myths within the UK, neither it is a "founder member", nor did Thatcher "create" the EUs SM or Churchill was "part of the founding" ..
.sorry..instead the UK was begging for 11 years, until it was allowed to join the...EU...
Because = the EU27 are a EVER EVOLVING AND DEVELOPING peace project based on solidarity and respect for all EUropean member states with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states.
ALL of what the EU27 are today, was already part of the "Schuman plan", and got confirmed again at the Treaty of Rome in 1957, and got confirmed again at the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
The "Schuman plan" was created by Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU.
Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920, was the first President of the European Parliament and the only EUropean ever, who received this very special title "father of Europe".
The Treaty of Rome set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a common market based on the free movement of goods, people, services and capital".
That was a snippet of the Treaty of Rome from 1957.
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@emm_arr 🙄
As @trident stated = the EEC is the "embryo" of todays EU, its SIX founder members = Treaty of Rome 1957 are = Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands !!
ALL the other countries/now member states joined an ALREADY EXISTING CLUB ! !
The Treaty of Rome "set up the EEC, bringing together Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, to work together towards Integration and economic growth through trade, to establish a COMMON MARKET BASED ON THE FREE MOVEMENT OF GOODS, PEOPLE, SERVICES AND CAPITAL"...
That was a snippet of the Treaty of Rome/1957..
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@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
The "changes", the EU27 are talking about, is the "voting procedure" which should be done with "absolute majority", but not with the "one vouce system" anymore, since Hungary and Poland continiously blocking important EU decicions, like "support for Ukraine, immigration solutions, EUs green deal, etc... therefor the EU27 decided, that BEFORE more countries, which are already having the status as a "candidate for EU membership " can join, this "voting procedure" has to be changed, otherwise the EU27/then 30ish + member states, could be made "unable to act", which of course isn't wanted.
Btw, until now the other EU member states found solutions to get by with the Polish/Hungarian blocking tactics = why are they blocking?
Because Poland and Hungary stripped down various laws/rights, like protection of human rights/womens rights, independent justice free speech/press etc, therefor they don't receive their EU subsidies anymore until they go along with the Copenhagen Criteria again.
Forgot to say "no deal will be as good or even better than being EU member ", or the short cut version "club member benefits are for club members only ", as stated various times by EUs spokesmen/negotiators recently.
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@nickbarton3191 NO.
Putler invaded Ukraine because of his imperial hunger = as he wants to "create" the "Great Russian Empire" again within the borders before 1989, Finland included...as he stated, that "none of the ex USSR and Warscaw Pact countries have the right of existence, because ALL of them belong to Russia".
As Putler also is a "fan" of Peter the Great, who went to war for 20 years to "create" the "Great Russian Empire"...as Putler stated already various times in some of his speeches...
The EU27/Germany will replace all fossil fuels (oil, coal, nat gas) with green hydrogen, the goal is focused on 2030-2045.
Hydrogen can be used as storage battery for the overloads from the offshore windmills and others as well as raw material for proceeding things like steel, glass, paper etc as well.
Lots of start ups are working on alternative storage possibilities as well.
Electrolyseurs (wind to power) are under construction everywhere as well.
The EUs "green deal" has a value of € ONE TRILLION, to support the EUs member states and industries "going green"...
Various steel mills received already € millions to build their own windmills/Electrolyseurs and arc furnaces to produce green steel in the near future..
The EU27/Germany are in transition going green, that was already on the way/agreed long before the war started...
Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands have taken over from Russia with delivering nat gas to the EU27/Germany...
Please look up for Wolfspeed, a US company which is building a gigafactory for semi conductors at the Federal State of Saarland/Germany
Infenion near Dresden
Bosch near Dresden
TSMC (Taiwanese company which will build a gigafactory for micro chips) at Silicon Saxony near Dresden
Intel near Magdeburg
Northvolt near Hamburg
Ford near Cologne
VW is building 3 gigafactories for EVs batteries, one at Lower Saxony/Germany, one in Sweden in cooperation with Northvolt and one in Spain or Portugal
Microsoft will build a data center for AI in North Rhine Westphalia until 2026
Etc, etc...and since 2023 Germany is the worlds third largest economy...
Fitch affirms UK rating AA-
outlook negative
Fitch affirms Germany rating AAA
outlook stable
UKs national debt is at 101,2 %
Germany's national debt 66,3 %
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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Sorry, but that's not correct, why?
Because leaving the EU automaticly includes leaving the EUs SM/EEA/CU, according to article 126 of the EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY !!
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
What was offered by EUs negotiators was "EFTA membership for a LEAVING EU member state", while stating at the same time, that THIS option won't be available anymore after leaving the EU !!
Just looked up about that "May stated/analogous "that the UK wants to make a clear cut, therefor doesn't want EFTA membership neither".
UK left the EU27 on its own free will, therefor is a 3rd country now = 3rd country rules apply !!
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