Comments by "Andre Gon" (@andregon4366) on "Asmon on Streamers Abusing Twitch's New Rules" video.
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@BaschBarrage Nor does it revolve around you, or the feelings of a random person.
I don't care if you're fine with it or not, a human right is still a human right.
There's nothing you can say that will justify violate human rights.
Criminals aren't ok with the police force, should we get rid of the police because millions of criminals aren't ok with getting caught? I don't think so.
Andregon might love eatingTúrd, but others dont. And here's the false equivalence falacy.
What you're arguing is not about people doing their thing, and others not doing it, what you're saying is about people doing their own thing and other people not being ok with those people do.
thats the easiest example I can give when it comes to Andregon, it suits very well :)
Congratulations, your entire argument relies on a falacy, rendering it invalid.
Congratulations on showing that your argument has no basis whatsoever. :)
Keep dishing out those falacies, maybe I'll get a Bingo.
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@xXREDstoneMANXx but what about the good religion does.
If doing a good thing justified a bad thing then all druglords would fund a charity and not go to jail because of it.
That's not how things work.
And religion sure as hell didn't save my uncle, he could still be alive if he seeked medical help instead of rellying in thoughts and prayers.
I guess religion doesn't save you from prostate cancer.
I don't act as if people are bad because of religion, I'm claiming that religion can be one of the reasons to make people bad.
There's plenty of evidence about it, just look ar Iran and the women they murder for violating their dark ages rules.
If religion didn't exist autocratic regimes would still exist, but not autocratic regimes ruled by clergy, which is exactly what Iran's regime is, and inspiring other muslim countries to do so.
Have you seen the protests in Iran against their oppressive regime? Thousands of people died in the past 3 or 4 years.
Now tell me why I should respect a religion that creates regimes that oppress and kill people, IN THE 21ST CENTURY!!!!!!
WE'RE NOT IN THE MIDDLE AGES, such barbaric behaviour is unnaceptable anywhere in the world regardless of culture, religion or race.
What hope does a dead person have? NONE!
The only hope is for religion to lose relevance, like it did in the west.
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@BaschBarrage I never said religion shouldn't exist since the beginning of human race.
That's a Strawman falacy.
Got the falacy Bingo, by now.
And calling me savage for not abiding to an obsolete set of rules that gets people stoned to death.
Projection much?
No need to throw more falacies, I already got the Bingo.
But if you want to reinforce the invalidity of your narrative by throwing more falacies be my guest.
Religion brings nothing in the modern age, it's so useless that the time you spend with any religion could be put in learning another language and you'd end up with something that was (and is) more useful.
The moral high ground you pretend to be in serves no purpose other than stroke your own ego.
The only view I brought is that you can't make up excuses to violate human rights, and your baseless beliefs sure as hell aren't valid either.
And no matter how many falacies you throw at me, none will validate your narrative.
No atheist taught me anything, I learned things by thinking for myself.
And calling me disrespectful when you threw insults at me a little while ago (in matter of fact, you started to throw insults right from the beginning) just makes you an hypocrite.
You already proved to be one, no need to do ot again.
I could also make the argument that your behaviour is the result of religion, justification of human rights violation is the behaviour of autocratic, dictatorial and tyrannical regimes.
Human rights stand above your religion.
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@xXREDstoneMANXx If their religion was fine why is a regime ruled by their religion so oppressive?
You dislike how people are treated, but you're fine with the root cause of that?
It makes no sense.
Other muslim countries don't like that because they are under regimes not ruled by islam's clergy, and Iran's regime hates those countries because of that.
Islam's regime wants those regimes destroyed and replaced with their own.
I've met many wonderful Muslims
First, that's anecdotal.
Second I never said anything against civilians who practice a religion being bad.
Are drugs bad? Yes. Are the people who take drugs bad? Not necessarily.
Same thing.
If you strawman my arguments, I'll call you out on that.
Tbh, it is just like your only ever seen negative things come from religion, and that has shaped your worldview,
Wars were waged for the sake of religion, people used religion to justify torture and killing, religion is bad and obsolete.
Besides, I'm advocating for human rights.
How many people used Human Rights to justify torture and killing? 0
How many wars were waged for the sake of Human Rights? 0
People would still be wholesome if religion didn't exist.
There would still be fucked up people if religion didn't exist.
I never came close to deny that.
What I said was that if religion didn't exist there would be one less reason for people to be fucked up.
There are bad things that only exist because religions exist, whereas good things can still exist regardless of there being religions or not. That's a fact.
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@BaschBarrage Yes you should be allowed to say it.
And you can say it in front of a lot of people. They don't give a fuck.
Companies have TOS, and if the TOS states that saying something like "Macaroni", you can still say it, but then your account gets banned.
Companies want to avoid controversy and appease to advertisers, so they make their arbitrary rules.
If you want to use their platforms you have to abide by those rules.
But rules aren't laws, none of which you can force people to make, as long as you don't own any kind of entity capable of enforcing your own arbitrary rules.
You're not an advertiser, you don't make laws, you're just a random person on the internet with a random opinion worth as much as the buzzing of a fly.
But you can still say anything, a government that prosecutes you for what you say is in violation of freedom of expression.
As simple as that.
That is not based on "based on the delulu views" (not a valid argument anyway), it's based on the very real human right all humans have.
And thanks for you Ad Hominem falacy about my age.
There's nothing better than relying on falacies to undermine your entire narrative.
I'm 40 by the way.
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@ZOverOne Then do it.
Make fun of whatever you want.
What am I going to do? Get sad? Get angry?
What's the point of getting emotional for the words of a random comment on the internet?
My point is that anyone can express themselves however they damn please.
You want draw a turd and claim they're my ancestors, you can do it.
You want to make a song about putting two pregnant women in an arena and telling them no one is allowed to leave alive until one eats the other one's fetus, you can do it.
You want to make a movie about torture, you can do it.
Provided you don't physically/financially/etc hurt anyone, warn people of the content you're releasing (which is in Twitch TOS) and abide by age rating rules, you can express however you'd like.
But hurting someone's feelings?
I'll quote Thomas Jefferson as a response to that: Ridicule is the best response to an unintelligent proposition.
If you think your feelings, or someone else's feelings, are a reason to tell people what they can or can't do, I'll ridicule or ignore you, but you can be sure as all hell, I won't take you seriously (at least until you commit a crime like doxxing)
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@BaschBarrage The feeling of billions of people is still worthless.
0 multiplied by a billion is still 0
I'm not part of their culture, I have no obligation to abide by their rules.
Besides, their arbitrary rules are based on a fantasy that they treat it as real.
I don't ask for people take my fantasies seriously, so I'm not going to take other people's fantasies seriously either.
I'm not making excuses to offend others. If you want to be offended, be offended. I don't care. This is not an excuse, IT'S A FACT. I literally don't care if you get offended or not.
Besides, they get offended simply because someone tells them to be offended, someone that represents a, ideology based on a fantasy.
I just need to read the first sentence to know theTurd takes from Andregon are worthless :)
So are your feelings. And your opinion based on nothing other that your feelings.
But hey, thank you for admitting your Intellectual dishonesty, it says a lot about you.
And by the way, I'm not arguing with you to make you change your ideas, I'm exposing your unintelligent narrative for everyone who will read the comments.
Since you have no valid points, rely on insults, falacies and dishonest tactics, and I'm exposing them, I'd say I'm doing a good job.
there will be people who would doVīŏlèncè in the name of Jesus/Buddha/Cow/Devas/etc... then dont play victim after doing so
If you are target of violence you're not playing victim, YOU ARE A VICTIM
I'm suspecting you don't know how things work.
No drawings or words justify violence.
But violence justifies jail time.
P.S. Ironic that you started replying to me questioning my age (Quote: "like I said, andre sound like under20, go do theSchool homework, then its bed time :)") and using it for your Ad Hominem, and now you're the one throwing childish comments (quote: "I just need to read the first sentence to know theTurd takes from Andregon are worthless :)" and Quote: "Andregon might love eatingTúrd, but others dont.").
It really makes your childishness stand out.
I guess you're an hypocrite after all.
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@BaschBarrage You never gave any answer.
All you did was throw falacies at me.
Just because you typed some words that doesn't mean they're valid.
Falacies are called falacies for a reason.
And I called you out on those falacies.
I don't know if you realized, but you lost any credibility as soon as you started to use falacies as an argument. Which was right at the beginning.
Any narrative that requires falacies to work, is a worthless false narrative. No exceptions.
And yet the existence of such rules didn't prevent wars, torture, oppression, genocide, etc.
If anything, many of those terrible events wouldn't even happen if religion didn't exist.
Rules may be important, I'm not denying that, but you don't need a religion to make them.
The Human Rights are a set of rules that are simply superior to anything any religion ever came up with. That's reality.
look at muricans, how easy it is to just give an excuse of a person havingMèntáIiIInèss and the person get less consequences for what they have done..
It's not just americans, mental illnesses is a serious and real issue that requires treatment, and every developed country recognizes that.
A mentally ill person isn't necessarily responsible of their actions, no one should be responsible for something that's out of their control.
It's no one's fault that someone is born with a birth defect.
Mental illness is not an excuse.
and whats the result of that, the result is more crīmīnál acts in muricans..
Americans have laws that punish people who break them.
If that doesn't stop criminals from breaking them, a set of arbitrary rules you make up won't stop them either.
The difference being that your set of rules can be interpreted in a way that justifies comitting terrible deeds, unlike laws properly made.
why, because they know how to ease the outcome, by the excuse ofMèntáIiIInèss if caught..
Again, not true.
Mental illness, being a medical condition can be proved.
If you're not mentally ill, you can't use mental illness as an excuse to get away with it, meanwhile many people got away with killing and torturing by using religion as an excuse.
is this what Andregon called humanrights?
No it isn't.
More falacies, that's very disingenuous of you to keep rely on falacies after I called you out on so many of them, and you never contested that.
Human rights are written and available for everyone to see, you can search them up.
No one in the Human Rights state that people can commit crimes and using any form of excuse to do them.
Religion became instantly obsolete as soon as the human rights were created.
Religion was unable to stop wars, genocides, torture, killing, etc.
And in some cases it even justified that. In those cases those events only happened BECAUSE RELIGION EXISTED This is a fact.
Human Rights can't be used to justify wars, genocides, torture or anything of the sort.
Religion is no longer useful.
Religion has become a problem since the moment people started to kill for the sake of religion. That's the moment religion became bad, that's the moment religion should cease to exist.
that is why I asked to imagine a world where there's no rèIīgīŏn, yes nèandèrthaI sávágès :)
The only savage here is the one that defends a practice that, to this day, is used as an excuse to perform the most abhorrent actions.
A world with no religion would be a slightly better world to live in, since there would be one less reason to be a horrible person. Aside from that, it would still be pretty much the same thing. :)
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