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Comments by "Samson Soturian" (@samsonsoturian6013) on "Elizabeth Holmes Conviction – Is this a Golden Era of Fraud?" video.
To prove she was defrauding patients you also have to prove the device was fake, rather than simply didn't work. If you put her on trial for that, she's simply play dumb and blame it on being an underqualified scientists with over ambitious ideas. No idea if that'd stick, though.
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Mr Musk is a lot of things, but not a scammer.
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You know Mr Boyle personally debunked that, right?
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Don't be silly. There never was a working device. Ms Holmes had virtually no medical training. Test documents were faked. People were threatened, punished, or screamed at for asking questions. And little research and development was going into creating an actual device.
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Interesting to note that while she was being hailed by all newspapers everywhere for empowering women, Holmes was deepening her voice so those same people would take her seriously.
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I think you're mistaking a handful of well-known incidents as a sign of a systemic issue. For comparison, there are 12,000 corporations worth over a billion dollars in the US, plus 10,000 hedge funds, plus tens of thousands more institutional investors. By simple law of averages you'll see felonies and large scale misdomeanors every year. I actually made this the subject of some of my criminology studies, and I found the US exhibits none of the signs you'd expect if there were systemic market crimes.
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Short them and find out.
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@joels7605 and these startup CEOs are somehow different from the ones on public companies? I say, sir, it's easy to believe that most memecoins are scam because all it takes is some copy-pasting code but saying there's systemic fraud in a long list of major corporations is quite another.
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@benjamindover4337 I'm to lazy to check if that's true but regardless SHE HIRED THEM, GOOFBALL!!! Just because you don't like a horse showing up does not mean it's a zebra with paint on it. Which is my way of saying, there's no reason to believe that and Ms Holmes herself admitted to straight up lying about several key facts.
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@valdomero738 Except he actually built a device as advertised and risked his own money to do it.
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@valdomero738 Liars burn in hell. Just because you envy his wealth and his fanbois are idiots doesn't mean he didn't do anything productive.
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@valdomero738 You lost money on the stock, didn't you?
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@4777hamza The newspapers were simply a reflection of the general public. Not dumb, just trusting.
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@Lawofimprobability Then go be a better journalist. I bet a thousand bucks you'll be spewing out partisan flaimbait within a month.
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@Lawofimprobability Human error/vice does. Including yours and mine.
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Put that back up your butt where it came from before I do. In order to prove that, you'd have to prove A) The devices weren't just faulty but were fake, B) Ms Holmes knew this, and C) Ms Holmes personally convinced patients to use this device instead of some underling. In any case, she'll spend some years in jail.
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As a military historian, I can say definitively that if a device sounds like it might show up in sci-fi, chances are you're not going to see it in the real world, especially not in a predictable time frame.
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