Comments by "115islands Compass" (@115islandscompass6) on "Did Japan Try To Surrender Before the Atomic Bombs Were Dropped?" video.
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No landing operations or atomic bombs were required for the end of the war.
The CIA website has a PDF file which shows that the Government of Japan was asking the United States to talk the end of the war from the beginning of 1945.
And it was recorded that Japanese government admitted defeat and argued that retention of the Emperor was the only condition for surrender, because it was necessary to prevent Japan from becoming a communist nation.
The draft of the Potsdam Declaration was supervised by Joseph Grew, the former ambassador to Japan.
The draft included a sentence authorizing the guarantee of the emperor's retention.
Because Grew was known the above information, also knew well why Japan wanted the retention of the Emperor, and knew that Japan would surrender as soon as the Potsdam Declaration allowed the retention of the Emperor.
This Grew’s effort is proven by the Truman memoir.
It says:
"Grew arrived at the end of May and suggested to make a declaration urging Japan to surrender. The declaration provided Japan with a guarantee that the United States would allow the Emperor to remain head of state."
"I told him that I had already considered this issue and that (Grew's suggestion) seemed like a sound opinion."
However, when Truman annouced the Potsdam Declaration, the sentence that allowed the retention of the Emperor had removed from the declaration.
It was because the atomic bomb was completed shortly before the declaration.
And the guarantee of the Emperor's status would likely have done Japan's immediate surrender, which meant the loss of the opportunity and the place to test atomic bombs.
Therefore, it was clear that the US purpose of dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was not to end the war, and it was as follows.
1. Experiments on how the atomic bomb destroys and kills living cities and people
2. Experiments on contamination by radioactivity and its effects on the human body
3. Demonstration to the Soviet Union
In addition, it seems that it is not well known, but in fact, after the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, the US nuclear bomb development agency announced that it had "successfully conducted an atomic bomb drop experiment."
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@iLikeRantingStaySalty
Huh?
In the first place, it was the United States that had provoked war on Japan for a long time, before attacking the Pearl Harbor.
Since 1927, the United States began ordering Chinese warlords to conduct anti-Japanese campaigns in exchange for financial and arms support.
That was in order to disturb Japan from expanding its interests in China through friendship and business.
The Chinese warlords sabotaged Japanese commercial facilities, looted/raped/massacred ordinary Japanese residents, and attacked/kidnapped&slaughtered Japanese soldiers.
Chiang Kai-shek, who was captured and detained in the Xi'an incident in 1936, was forced to stop mopping up the CCP and concentrate on the anti-Japanese operation by Zhang Xueliang, who was supported by Britain and the United States, and the CCP, which was supported by the Soviet Union.
This anti-Japanese terrorist operation developed into big conflict, the China Incident, with the Japanese army.
And the China Incident was prolonged because the United States continued to support Chiang Kai-shek despite Japan's repeated offers of peace talks.
As can be seen from the fact that the purpose of Japan entering French Indochina with the consent of France was to cut off the supply route of Chiang Kai-shek from Indochina to China, the U.S. support was the one of causes of the prolonged China Incident.
Then, the United States cornered Japan by embargo because of the China Incident that the United States set up behind the scenes.
The Roosevelt administration thought that if it participated in WW2, it would be able to get out of the Great Depression, make more money, and hopefully gain world hegemony with the dollar.
But the American people were against the war, so FDR severely cornered it to make Japan make a preemptive attack.
Incidentally, the United States was preparing to start a war against Japan from the United States in China in case Japan did not make a preemptive attack. This attack plan was called “JB. No. 355.”
To me, Zelensky only looks like Chiang Kai-shek 2.0.
Almost 100 years ago and today, the American way is always the same.
1993?
When I first found this record on the CIA website, it was not in PDF format.
It was published as an article in the form included in the report of the results of research by several people.
If you look at the history of importing from paper files to electronic files, it's not so strange that the entire original archival document became a PDF file in 1993.
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＠cubed
As can be seen from the “A note to Roosevelt'' written on Iwo Jima, the Japanese feared that “the Japanese people would be exterminated.” This was also the reason why Japan went to war with the United States.
1. What did Americans do to Native Americans?
2. What did the United States do to the Kingdom of Hawaii?
3. Roosevelt's white supremacy and hatred of Japan.
Considering these three points, it was natural for the Japanese to worry about what would happen after "unconditional surrender."
So, the Japanese government was asking the United States for peace talks.
Certainly, the form of the memorandum mentioned above is unofficial.
However, the Japanese messengers were official ambassadors and ministers, which shows that they argued official statement of the Japanese government.
And why do you think the U.S. government did not declass this document as a confidential document until 1993?
In April 1945, with the clear intention of ending the war, the Emperor finally made Kantaro Suzuki to accept the appointment of prime minister and formed a new cabinet.
In this way, the Japanese government, including the Emperor, was trying to realize the end of the war.
According to a report dated May 12, 1945, Ambassador Kase told the US OSS on May 11, as follow:
"The condition for Japan's surrender is the guarantee of retention of the Emperor, which is neccesary to prevent Japan to become a communist country'' and "Joseph Grew, former ambassador to Japan, will understand what I mean.”
The “nuclearfiles(dot)org” site shows that shortly after Kase's request, former U.S. Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew created a document that became known as the Potsdam Declaration.
In late May 1945, Grew proposed to Truman that he use this opportunity to urge Japan to surrender.
The Potsdam Declaration demands the unconditional surrender of the Japanese military, but on the other hand, it also sets out conditions such as "We do not intend that the Japanese shall be enslaved as a race or destroyed as a nation, ..."
Until the atomic bomb was completed and Burns erased it, the sentence guaranteeing the Emperor's retention was written at the end of Article 12.
As I wrote in the comment above, Truman used this declaration to endorse a proposal to urge Japan to surrender.
In short, Japan's surrender was not an unconditional surrender, because the Japanese government accepted the conditional Potsdam Declaration and surrendered.
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@brwi1
No, the Soviet invasion actually made the US and Japan hasten Japan's surrender.
The United States did not respond to Japan's requests for peace talks from the beginning of 1945 for several months until the Potsdam Declaration.
So, based on the Japan-Soviet Neutrality Treaty, Japan requested the Soviet Union to mediate peace negotiations with the United States.
After the Potsdam Declaration, even those in favor of early peace in the Japanese government hesitated to accept it because the "guarantee of the retention of the Emperor,'' which Japan had demanded as an absolute condition, was not included in the Declaration.
Pro-Soviet factions within the Japanese government opposed acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration, arguing that Japan should wait for a response to the Soviet Union's request for mediation.
It was thought that Japan would surrender immediately after the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but it did not.
And despite the Yalta promise that the Soviet Union's invasion date was August 15th, the Soviet Union started to invade in the early morning hours of August 9th.
The United States was confused.
Because the United States feared that more Japanese territory than had been promised to the Soviet Union at Yalta would be occupied and taken away.
And then, in response to inquiries from Japanese peace advocates regarding the retention of the Emperor, the U.S. government sent a note to the Japanese government stating that "the United States may accept this.''
It was a gamble for the Japanese government to rely on this note. However, Japan had to accept the Potsdam Declaration and end the war with the Allies, in order to stop the Soviet invasion as soon as possible.
Thus, the Potsdam Declaration was accepted, and Japan conditionally surrendered to the United States.
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