Comments by "115islands Compass" (@115islandscompass6) on "The Victims of Hiroshima \u0026 Nagasaki" video.
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It was the United States that provoked war on Japan for a long time, before attacking the Pearl Harbor.
Since 1927, the United States began ordering Chinese warlords to conduct anti-Japanese campaigns in exchange for financial and arms support. That was in order to disturb Japan from expanding its interests in China through business.
The Chinese warlords sabotaged Japanese commercial facilities, looted/raped/massacred ordinary Japanese residents, and attacked/kidnapped&slaughtered Japanese soldiers.
This anti-Japanese terrorism was finally taken over by Chiang Kai-shek's Kuomintang army, which allied with the CCP, and developed into big conflict, the China Incident, with the Japanese army.
And the China Incident was prolonged because the United States continued to support Chiang Kai-shek.
The reason why Chiang Kai-shek did not listen to the Japanese side's offer of peace talks was that the longer the war dragged on, the richer he could live.
Then, the United States cornered Japan because of the China Incident that the United States set up behind the scenes.
As former President Hoover wrote in "Freedom Betrayed," the Roosevelt administration cornered Japan with a trap, inviting a first attack.
Also, MacArthur said in his Senate speech shortly after his return, Japan was at war for security.
In other words, it was the United States that caused the wars between Japan and the United States.
Below are the supports the US government gave to the Chinese warlords.
1927
Zhang Zuolin completed the Dutong Line, one of the Manchuria parallel lines, with the backing of US capital, ignoring the Manchuria parallel line construction ban agreement (21 articles with China).
In particular, the Bonghai Line was completed by importing rails from the United States and rolling stock from the United Kingdom.
1931
The United States helped Zhang Xueliang's army build a weapons factory with an annual production capacity of 100 tanks, 10 planes, and 1 million rounds of bullets.
Furthermore, it was decided to provide financial assistance totaling 26 million dollars over three years.
1934
China Guangdong Air Force Command and U.S. Aviation Equipment Corp. have been negotiating a three-year plan contract for the U.S. Air Force.
Airfields were constructed in Fuzhou and Xiamen on the condition that US loans were used to purchase US military aircraft and guidance from US Navy Reserve Officers.
1939
The US Export-Import Bank provides $45 million in funding to the China International Trade Commission.
1940
The United States announced $20 million in financial assistance to the Chiang regime.
Announced additional funding of $25 million.
President Roosevelt promised Chiang Kai-shek $100 million and 50 new fighter planes.
Of the $100 million, $25 million will be used to purchase China's air program and ground weapons components.
1941
U.S. decides to support 100 P-40B fighters. Intercontinental Corporation of the United States and China signed a treaty regarding the United States Volunteer Corps of Pilots, and dispatched 259 pilots.
The U.S. War Department presents a list of munitions (worth $45.1 million) that can be delivered to China.
President Roosevelt approves shipment of 300 trucks to China to Rangoon, Burma within two weeks.
It also decided to provide China with munitions supplies worth $49.34 million. The U.S. Integration Committee decides to dispatch 500 B-17s to China for the purpose of dispatching a military mission and bombing Japanese forces from China by U.S. volunteers.
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@benjalucian1515
The above records of contact from Japan is a summary of the statement made by a representative of the Japanese government in the OSS (the predecessor agency of the CIA) of Switzerland. If you check the names of the Japanese who visited to request there, you'll find the name of the Japanese minister at the time is also included.
Since the United States ignored the above-mentioned approach, Japan also requested the Soviet Union to arbitrate with the Allies based on the Japan-Soviet Neutrality Pact.
Stalin, pending a reply to the request from Japan, went to the Yalta Conference and told Roosevelt and Churchill about the request from Japan at the Yalta Conference.
Roosevelt and Churchill promised Stalin the cession of Eastern Europe and the Kuril Islands in exchange for an invasion of Japanese territory.
In other words, at the time of the Yalta Conference, the United States, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union were confident of victory.
The defeat of Japan was clear from the situation.
MacArthur made the following statement about the dropping of the atomic bomb:
“In June 1945, when I learned that Japan had asked the Soviet Union to mediate peace, I told my staff that the war was over. I was furious when I heard the news of the drop."
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@benjalucian1515
Don't you know what was done to Native Americans in North America, what was done to indigenous people in New Zealand and Australia, what was done to the Kingdom of Hawaii, what was done to Japanese Americans in the United States during the war?
The Japanese government had to consider that if Japan surrendered unconditionally, the Japanese would be treated like them.
Whenever I hear that "Japan was not allowed any option other than unconditional surrender", I always wonder why people who claim so can't understand that "unconditional surrender" equals "admitment that it can't be helped even if it is annihilated".
In the Hyde Park Agreement of 1944, Roosevelt promised Churchill that he would use the atomic bomb on the Japanese people and that he would drop 17 atomic bombs on the Japanese archipelago to annihilate the Japanese race.
So, to the United States under the Roosevelt administration
❶ Unconditional surrender to the United States, which only accepts unconditional surrender
= Annihilation
❷Fight without surrendering
≠ Annihilation
Therefore, it was natural not to surrender unconditionally.
By the way, the terms of the Potsdam Declaration included the ``unconditional surrender of the Imperial Japanese Army'' and ``We have no intention of enslaving Japan as a race nor intending to exterminate it as a nation.''
In short, it was not "unconditional."
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@benjalucian1515
First, I'm not telling you to sympathize with Japan about the reason why Japan did not surrender unconditionally.
I'm just telling you to understand that forceing for unconditional surrender is nonsense in itself.
I'm curious where you got your historical education, but I'm pretty sure it's on the Allied side anyway. Because it seems that only distorted content is taught so that you can feel good.
Treatment of POWs?
POWs in the Japanese military were ordinary managed by Japanese of Korean descent from the Korean Peninsula. Koreans tend to bully those who are in a weaker position than themselves.
And, the Japanese army had strict military rules and corporal punishment was not something special even inside the Japanese army.
So I would not say that the Japanese did not abuse the POW at all.
However, as a result of publicity that was worse than the actual situation, such as the Bataan March, which was used as anti-Japanese propaganda to raise fighting spirits during the war, some people still believe everything as if it were true.
In Bataan, the American soldiers who remained after MacArthur fled and half of the Filipino soldiers were wounded soldiers.
Records show that there were too many POWs that there was no means of transporting them all. So, only soldiers in very poor condition were brought by car, and POWs who could walk were made to walk with the Japanese soldiers.
Even if they hadn't taken POWs with them, the Japanese would probably have been accused of neglecting the wounded.
Many Filipino soldiers fled during the march, but it is said that those who fled were recorded as dead.
It is said that POWs were forced to walk 120km on Bataan. But it was actually 83km. The distance they were forced to walk was certainly long. However, the fact that they were wounded soldiers and the scarcity of medicine and food were taken into consideration. It is recorded that the actual march was carried out twice a day for two hours, averaging 14km each, for three days, avoiding the hot daylight.
As anyone who practices walking knows, 3.5km/h is a very slow pace.
After the war, American soldiers who thought that burdock, a vegetable used in Chinese herbal medicine, was tree roots, complained that Japanese soldiers who gave them burdock roots as foods were abuses. As a result, the Japanese soldiers who gave Japanese dishes them were executed.
So, I am very suspicious of the "definition of abuse" of the Allied people, who can only judge things from such a self-centered and narrow perspective.
On the other hand, most Allied soldiers killed the surrendered Japanese instead of taking POW.
In his memoirs, Charles Lindbergh, who was a volunteer pilot in the Allied Forces, wrote that Allied soldiers routinely killed Japanese POWs by pushing them out of planes flying over the Pacific Ocean.
There were periods in the US military when Japanese soldiers had so little POW that they were given a POW quota and a special bonus (leave). Records show that the number of POWs increased during that period, but that the number returned to normal after the period of the order ended.
YT has a video of a US veteran who speaks without hesitation about killing surrendering Japanese soldiers. It is clear that he had no sense of guilt because it was the usual thing for him.
Therefore I don't think the Allies is qualified to say anything about the treatment of POWs to Japan.
FYI although the Allies tells as if POWs of Allied soldiers death was all Japan's fault, 1/3 of the Allied POWs were killed by Allied fire during the sea transfer.
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