Comments by "115islands Compass" (@115islandscompass6) on "No, We Didn't Need to Nuke Japan" video.
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Firstly, as early as 1907, the principle of international law "prohibition of indiscriminate artillery bombing (indiscriminate bombing) in war"
was established as Article 25 of the Hague Rules of Land War: Prohibition of attacks and shelling of undefended cities.
In particular, regarding air combat, in 1923 the “Regulations on Air Combat'” deliberated by six countries, the United States, Great Britain, France, Italy, the Netherlands, and Japan, made it more clear that “air bombing must only be carried out against MILITARY TARGETS.”
In short, by this law, it was stipulated that indiscriminate bombing is illegal.
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The Japanese government had been asking the United States for peace negotiations since early 1945. As can be seen from this, the statement that "the Japanese government intended to fight to the last man'' is also propaganda.
What Japan could not do was surrender unconditionally.
The reason is as follows.
- What Americans did to Native Americans
- What America did to the Kingdom of Hawaii
- President Roosevelt's acceptance of communism, racist ideology, and hatred of Japan
Even before the war, Roosevelt hated the Japanese and publicly said that they should be exterminated.
Therefore, as seen in the "A note to Roosevelt" written by Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima, the Japanese believed that they risked annihilation if they surrendered unconditionally to the United States.
By the way, it was Truman's lie to protect himself that Japan surrendered after dropping the atomic bomb.
In fact, it is more accurate to say that the Soviet Union's invasion urged Japan to accept the Potsdam Declaration.
The Nanjing Massacre was a propaganda fabricated by the United States' missionaries to get anti-war Americans to accept the war.
Even the Tokyo Trials, which were criticized as a lynching of the defeated by the victorious nation, failed to prove that the Japanese military had committed massacre in Nanjing.
The Japanese military invaded the countries of Southeast Asian Nations in order to remove the colonial rulers and allow them to trade equally with the indigenous peoples. At the same time, the Japanese military knew that they could not stay in those countries for long, so they tried to teach the natives as much knowledge and training as possible so that they could maintain their independence.
However, there was too little time for Japan to implement all the successes it had in governing other Southeast Asian nations to Indonesia and other nations. I think this was the cause of the trouble in Romsha and elsethings.
Misinformation about comfort women is also rampant. The story that "comfort women were abducted and made into sexual slaves'' is a fabrication and distortion.
These were "prostitutes who applied for jobs'' and were highly paid prostitutes who earned between 60 million and 200 million yen in present value in just three years.
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Declassification of classified documents in 1993 has already revealed that Japan had been requesting peace talks with the United States since early 1945.
The May messenger of this document, Swiss Ambassador Kase, conveyed the following to the United States in May, 11, 1945.
"The condition of Japan's surrender is a guarantee the retention of the Emperor. This is necessary to prevent Japan from becoming a communist state.''
"Former Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew would understand what I mean."
Ambassador Kase's words were of course made with the consent of the Emperor and the Japanese government.
In response to Mr. Kase's request, former U.S. Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew created a document which became known later as the "Potsdam Declaration."
Grew then suggested that Truman use it to urge Japan to surrender in late May 28, 1945.
At this time, the Potsdam Declaration contained a sentence that guaranteed the retention of the Emperor.
However, after the atomic bomb was completed on July 16, prior to the announcement of the Potsdam Declaration, Secretary of State Byrnes removed the sentence guaranteeing the Emperor's status from the Potsdam Declaration.
Because this guarantee was highly likely to lead to Japan's immediate surrender.
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First, at the Tokyo Trials, which were criticized as a lynching of the victorious nation against the defeated nation, Chiang Kai-shek, who led the Kuomintang army in the actual battle against Japan, claimed that there were 1 million Chinese victims, 200,000 of whom were victims of the Nanjing Massacre.
A missionary who had been circulating propaganda in the United States saying, "50,000 Japanese troops massacred 42,000 Nanjing citizens in Nanjing,'' also testified at the Tokyo trial.
However, the actual number of Japanese troops who entered Nanking was 3,000.
And, their "testimonies" were all hearsay and rumors and could not provide by objective evidence.
For this reason, the prosecution was unable to prove that a massacre had occurred.
In Nanjing at the time, University professors and members of the press were also staying.
In fact, when the Japanese army entered Nanjing, the New York Times reported on it.
Why were these Westerners who were in Nanjing at the time not called to testify in court?
Because none of them saw or heard anything like the atrocities.
Today, CCP insists that the number of victims is 300,000 of the Nanjing massacre.
On the other hand, the number of unarmed people in Nanjing that the National Revolutionary Army announced before fled from Nanjing was 200,000.
And when the Japanese troops left Nanjing, there were about 220,000-250,000 citizens in Nanjing. This can be confirmed from multiple records.
The reason why the number of people after leaving of Japanese troops is larger than the number announced by the National Revolutionary Army is that Nanjing citizens who had been evacuated for fear of fighting returned Nanjing.
I don't think the Japanese soldiers did not anything bad at all.
However, it is difficult to believe the number of casualties that the CCP, which is not actually fighting the Japanese army, increases year by year without presenting any evidence.
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Declassification of classified documents in 1993 already revealed that Japan had been requesting peace talks with the United States since early 1945.
The PDF file name is as follows: “Memoranda for the President: Japanese Feelers”
The following is an excerpt from the PDF.
“12 May 1945
MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:
The following information, transmitted by the OSS representative in Bern, originates with a German source, an authority on the Far East who is
considered anti-Nazi but pro-Japanese:
The source, on 11 May, talked with Shunichi Kase, the Japanese Minister to Switzerland. He reports that Kase expressed a wish to help arrange for a cessation of hostilities between the Japanese and the Allies. Kase reportedly considers direct talks with the Americans and the British preferable to negotiations through the USSR, because the latter eventually would increase Soviet prestige so much that the whole Far East would become Communist.
Kase allegedly believes that one of the few provisions the Japanese would insist upon would be the retention of the Emperor as the only safeguard against Japan's conversion to Communism. Kase feels that Under Secretary of State Grew, whom he considers the best US authority on Japan, shares this opinion.
Added by hand: Should we pursue this? Donovan”
What Kase said:
-Japanese government admits defeat
- Directly requesting peace talks with Britain and the US
-The condition of Japan's surrender is the retention of the Emperor, which is necessary to prevent Japan from becoming a communist country.
-Former Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew would understand all of the above.
In response to Mr. Kase's request, former U.S. Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew created what became known as the "Potsdam Declaration."
He then suggested that Truman use it to induce Japan to surrender in late May 1945.
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However, on the other hand, the United States did not respond to Japan's request for peace talks until the Potsdam Declaration.
Despite Japan's white flag, American B-29s continued to bomb completely Japanese cities, and American fighters often manhunted unarmed civilians, shooting them to death with machine guns.
It was easy to imagine that a landing operation would take place under such circumstances, so the Japanese government trained the elderly, women, and children to protect themselves.
By this, Westerners often interpret that Japan did not have the will to surrender to the Allies because it was preparing for the decisive battle on the mainland.
However, when the enemy ignores your request for End-War Talks and continues to attack, it is quite natural to prepare for the next possible attack such as "landing operation", isn't it?
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The reason for the US economic sanctions against Japan was that Japan was invading China.
However, the conflict between Chiang Kai-shek's Kuomintang forces and Japan was caused by the Kuomintang forces' violations of agreements and atrocities against Japanese residents.
After the Marco Polo Bridge Incident, Japan wanted to avoid escalation into war, so it immediately began ceasefire negotiations and concluded four agreements within three weeks.
However, Chiang Kai-shek broke all peace agreements by conducting terrorist attacks on the Japanese.
For example, the Kuomintang literally massacred more than 200 Japanese people living in Tongzhou Settlement.
Also KMT attacked the Tianjin Japanese Settlement, where 10,000 Japanese people lived.
In response to this, the Japanese government decided to increase the number of security forces stationed in China in order to protect the lives and property of Japanese residents.
Chiang Kai-shek then besieged the Shanghai Concession and bombarded it with air force and artillery.
Approximately 30,000 Japanese people were staying in Shanghai at the time, as Japanese people who could no longer endure the violence in various parts of China were gathering to return home.
The fighter planes that carried out the bombing were given to Chiang Kai-shek by the United States.
The conflict thus gradually escalated into war.
Considering the above historical facts, it must be said that the common Western phrase that “Japan invaded China” is a distortion.
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You seem to be engraving an assortment of Japanese hate propaganda in your brain.
It was the United States that provoked the war between Japan and the United States.
Four months before the attack on Pearl Harbor, in August 1941, President Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill met on the US Navy heavy cruiser Augusta off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada. At this time, President Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill had already decided to force Japan into a war with the United States and to make it impossible for Japan to defend itself again after defeating Japan.
This was revealed by the disclosure of classified documents.
And for example, about Pearl Harbor, British historian Colonel Russell Grenfell wrote the following:
"The attack on Pearl Harbor was not only predicted, it was expected. There is no doubt that President F. Roosevelt wanted to lead America to war. For some reason, the first blow had to come from the other side, which is why they tightened their grip on Japan.The president of the United States forced Japan to attack the United States."
In short, the Japanese government desperately tried to avoid war, but the United States wanted war with Japan and did not give Japan any room for diplomacy.
So, it was the United States that provoked the war, the true evil.
The conflict between Japan and China in China was caused by the result of persistent provocations from Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist army, to which the United States provided huge support.
The Nanjing Massacre, by the way, was a form of propaganda fabricated by American missionaries to get anti-war Americans to accept the war.
The United States also spent eight years and $30 million on a thorough investigation of Unit 731, but found no evidence of war crimes.
The large number of Filipino casualties in Manila was the result of indiscriminate bombing of the city by the United States.
At that time, Koreans were protected by Japan because Korea was annexed by Japan.
Men on the Korean peninsula were not even drafted.
There were brave Koreans who went to the battlefield as Japanese soldiers, but they were all volunteers.
A thorough investigation conducted by the United States from 1999 to 2007 has already revealed that the comfort women issue that South Korea has long maintained is fabricated propaganda.
Living environment affects a person's lifespan.
For example, after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the average lifespan of both men and women in the devastated Soviet society rapidly declined, and in 1994 the average lifespan of men fell to 57.8 years.
On the other hand, during the Japanese annexation period, the average lifespan of Koreans who claim to have suffered atrocities and massacres by the Japanese military rose from 25 to 45 years, and the population almost doubled from 13 million to 25 million.
This is what official statistics show, and this fact proves that what they are saying is a complete lie.
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Roosevelt was an extreme racist, white supremacist, pro-Communist, pro-China and Soviet Union, and anti-Japanese.
He especially had a pathological hatred and contempt for the Japanese.
Robert Campbell, the British envoy to the United States, reported the contents of his meeting with Roosevelt in a letter to his home country as follows:
"Roosevelt thought it was important to promote intermarriage with whites in Asia.
"We will create Indo-Asian or Eurasian, or European Indo-Asian, and thereby create a great civilization and 'society' in the Far East." "However, we will exclude the Japanese. We will isolate them on their original islands and allow them to gradually decline."
In short, Roosevelt dreamed of creating new mixed-race Asians by having Asian women give birth to mixed-race children with whites, and having white people rule the Asian region with "their puppet new Asians."
From this letter, we can also see that Roosevelt despised the Japanese as an inferior race not worthy of breeding with whites, and that he wanted to exterminate them.
There was no way that Japan could accept the "unconditional surrender" demanded by President Roosevelt, who had such ideas.
1. What the Americans did to Native Americans
2. What the United States did to the Kingdom of Hawaii
3. Roosevelt's white supremacy and anti-Japanese
Just considering these only three points, it was natural for the Japanese to be worried about what would happen after "unconditional surrender".
That's why Japan had been sounding out peace talks since the beginning of 1945.
But the United States didn't even reply until the Potsdam Declaration.
The defense of Iwo Jima was a resistance against the United States to buy time for civilians, especially children, to evacuate from the cities to the countryside, because it was obvious that if Iwo Jima was taken by the United States, it would be easier for the United States to carry out air raids on the Japanese archipelago.
Isn't it natural for Japanese soldiers to fight a defensive battle against the Allied forces that had invaded Okinawa?
And at this time, the Japanese government had already approached the United States about peace talks.
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The Venona Papers say that about 50,000 communists or communist spies had infiltrated Japan since before the Pacific War.
In Japan at the time, communists were seen as ideological criminals, although some in the upper echelons of the government were ideologically infiltrated.
Some of them were collaborators.
In April, the emperor appointed Prime Minister Suzuki with the express intention of ending the war, and a new cabinet was formed.
Prior to this, from the beginning of 1945, the Japanese government had sought peace talks through the Swiss OSS(The predecessor agency of the CIΛ), Allen Dallas.
The PDF file, which is a series of requests from Japan, is posted on the CIΛ website under the following name:
“Memoranda for the President: Japanese Feelers”
From the May file in this PDF, you can read that a special envoy of the Japanese government told Dallas that he feared the government's communists were aiming for a defeatist revolution.
The Communists who permeated the government were not in favor of accepting the Potsdam Declaration.
They insisted that they should wait for a reply from the Soviet Union to the request for mediation with the Allies, which Japan requested the Soviet Union.
"If Japan surrenders through the mediation of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union will be able to participate in the occupation of Japan as a neutral party in the international community, and the Soviet Union will be able to use this as a foothold to begin turning Japan into a communist state."
Contemporary correspondence from officers who later turned out to be communist spies confirms that they thought this way.
However, the Soviet Union gave priority to secret pacts with Great Britain and the United States in Yalta and invaded Japan’s territory.
And then, the Communists under the guise of nationalism, who were opposed to accepting the Potsdam Declaration, were forced to accept it by the invasion of the Soviet Union.
Thus, the acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration was approved by a majority.
In order to start a revolution in Japan and turn it into a communist country, communist forces aimed to execute the Japanese Emperor and cause nationwide chaos.
This was also why Stalin and the communists who had infiltrated the US government continued to insist on the execution of the Tsar.
According to the Venona Papers, there were approximately 300 communist spies in the U.S. government.
Based on the above, it is believed that the officers who staged the coup attempt were either communist ideologues or nationalists instigated by communists posing as nationalists.
The reason why the Japanese army on the front lines continued to fight even after accepting the Potsdam Declaration was due to communication delays and the continued invasion of the Soviet Union.
Even after Japan declared acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration on August 15, the Soviet Union continued to invade Manchuria and the Kuril Islands.
Communication delays in areas far from the Japanese mainland delayed the armistice and delayed disarmament.
Furthermore, the Soviet Union continued to postpone invasions in order to expand its territory.
In fact, the Soviet Union stripped North Korea.
During his invasion of the Kuril Islands, Stalin had asked the United States to allow the partial occupation of Hokkaido.
Japanese forces in the Northern Territories continued to defend the Northern Territories until September 5, fearing that if they did not protect them from the invading Soviet army, their territory would be taken away as a fait accompli.
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@xxfrosty609xx3
It has already revealed that the stories Mark Felton tells in his books and videos about Unit 731 and comfort women are fabricated propaganda.
From 1999 to 2007, the United States spent eight years and $30 million conducting a thorough investigation of classified U.S. documents related to the following alleged war crimes:
- The Japanese military systematically forcibly kidnapped 200,000 women, turned them into sex slaves, and killed them when they became sick.
- Allied POWs were turned into guinea pigs for bacterial experiments at Unit 731's facility in Mukden, and bacteria were used in Japanese balloon bombs.
Among about 140,000 pages of classified documents about Unit 731 collected by the United States, the only document found was one in which he concluded that "germ warfare is unthinkable for the foreseeable future."
And, no evidence of human experimentation or germ warfare was found.
Regarding comfort women, the following facts were revealed, and on the contrary, criminality was denied.
- The comfort women system was an extension of the prostitution system that was legalized in Japan at the time.
-The Japanese military initiated this system to prevent general violence against women and the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.
- The US military did not recognize the criminality of the Japanese military's comfort women system.
As a result, almost none of the evidence and materials expected to be found among the approximately 8.5 million pages of classified documents were found.
The results can be confirmed in the report published on the web.
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This is no surprise since a thorough investigation by the United States has shown that the Unit 731 story is a communist fabrication.
Unit 731 was originally an anti-epidemic unit. During the war with the Qing Dynasty, 90% of the Japanese casualties were due to epidemics of infectious diseases on the continent.
For this reason, Japan later became to set up a unit to research water supply and epidemic prevention. Unit 731 was just one of them.
After invading Manchuria, the Soviet army unfairly detained some members of Unit 731 and forced them to testify at the trial that "outrageous things had been done" using torture and other means. But this was a forced "confession" through death threats and unwarranted interrogation and torture. There was also an environment in which they were brainwashed as if the story they wanted POW to admit was actually done. Therefore, those veterans's confessions are not credible.
It was in the 1980s that the story of Unit 731 came out again.
It was through the novel "Devil's gluttony," which was published in a newspaper published by the Japanese Communist Party.
The author of the novel said that he was inspired by Unit 731, but that the content of story was fictional. However, the communists took it as if it were true and made a fuss.
And a report that seems to prove that the content written in the novel is true was also "discovered".
The report said that this was a summary report of a confidential document signed an affidavit of 19 doctors of Unit 731.
Because of this report, the Chinese believed Unit 731 had actually done something outrageous.
The Chinese thought that in the archives of classified US documents, which had a habit of recording everything, there should be an affidavit signed by 19 doctors of Unit 731, objective evidence of human experiments, etc.
President Cl!nt0n was backed by a big Chinese group in the United States, so he responded to demands of Chinese supporters for the investigation by spending about $30 million in U.S. tax dollars to conduct an in-depth study over a period of 8 years from 1999 to 2007.
However, the "affidavits of 19 doctors" were not found.
As you know, the President of the United States has the authority to declassify any confidential documents.
Nevertheless, no "affidavits signed by 19 doctors" nor notes or reports as evidence of human experiments were found.
In short, it has already been revealed decades ago that such a terrible story of Unit 731 is all propaganda fabricated by communist forces.
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I don't think the Japanese soldiers didn't do anything wrong at all in the war.
But today it has been becoming clear that NOT everything the Allies has accused Japan of committing during World War II was true.
The Allies circulated a lot of propaganda/fake news to let the young people of their own country go to the battlefield.
After the war, the Allies have further adapted and used them to hide the dirty demeanor they did and their own war crimes.
The Nanjing Massacre is one of those Propaganda which was fabricated by anti-Japanese activist US missionary John Magee.
While saying, "This is what the Japanese soldiers did," Magee was showing a footage in the United States. In his footage, several Chinese people were lying on the ground. However, the footage made it impossible to tell whether the people were alive or dead.
I couldn't help but remember his footage when I saw the footage called "The Bucha Massacre."
And Magee spread the lie in the United States that 50,000 Japanese soldiers killed 42,000 Chinese civilians in Nanjing.
However, in fact, Japanese soldiers who actually entered Nanjing was only about 3,000.
The reason why he worked to spread such propaganda was to make the anti-war American people accept the war with Japan.
Then, this story was further distorted by the Allies, including Chiang Kai-shek, to justify the war crimes against Japanese.
At the Tokyo Far East Trial, Chiang Kai-shek claimed that the Japanese military was responsible for the deaths of 1 million Chinese people, including the massacre of 200,000 civilians in Nanjing.
200,000 was the number of civilians he announced when fleeing Nanjing before the Japanese army arrived.
However, most of the testimony of prosecution witnesses was hearsay and rumors, and even at the Tokyo trial, which was so biased that it was criticized as a lynching of a defeated country by a victorious nation, the prosecution was unable to prove that a massacre occurred in Nanjing.
In fact, records from the time indicate that the number of civilians in Nanjing at the time the Japanese army was leaving Nanjing was approximately 220,000 to 250,000.
The reason the number of civilians was higher than Chiang Kai-shek's announcement was that those who had fled outside Nanjing returned.
When Nanjing fell, about 150 international journalists and photographers accompanied the Japanese army as it entered the city.
Despite that, as bellow, there is a record from the prosecutor's side that they recruited "witnesses of the massacre" who needed the prosecutor of the Tokyo trial, but there were none at all.
“Prosecution Document No. 1706”
It says:
"Few people voluntarily reported the crimes committed by the Japanese military. Even when investigators were dispatched, some remained silent like 'winter cicadas' or did not tell the truth. Some denied it …”
It is recorded in the diaries of KMT soldiers at the time that most Chinese soldiers in the Kuomintang army always carried civilian clothes with them in case of escape or guerrilla warfare.
If the Japanese army had killed all the Chinese it could find, as the Chinese Communist Party, which did not fight the Japanese forces, claimed, the Kuomintang soldiers would not have had to change clothes. But they were actually changing their clothes. Do you understand what this means?
Just as the Chinese Communist Party has yet to release even objective evidence of the Nanjing Massacre, it has increased the number of "victims" every year without presenting any objective evidence.
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According to confidential documents disclosed by the United States in 1993, Japan had been requesting peace negotiations with the United States since early 1945.
However, even though Japan virtually raised the white flag, the United States continued to bomb more than 400 Japanese cities without responding to requests for peace negotiations. Approximately 500,000 people were killed or missing in the air raids, most of them civilians.
Westerners often say that like, "the Japanese government trained women and children how to use bamboo spears in preparation for the U.S. landings, which shows that Japan intended to fight to the last one."
However, in situations where the enemy ignores the white flag and continues to attack, indiscriminately burning down people and towns with incendiary bombs, and sometimes hunting people with fighter jets, even if the bamboo spear is the only weapon available for defense, isn't it natural to prepare the people for the next possible landing operation?
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I have to say that I have doubts about the number of casualties caused by the Japanese military as claimed by the Chinese side.
At the post-war Tokyo Trials, Chiang Kai-shek stated that the number of victims was about 1,000,000, including 200,000 in the Nanjing Massacre.
However, although it is claimed that a massacre occurred during the Nanjing Incident, there is no objective evidence of the massacre, only hearsay and rumors.
The Chinese Communist Party now claims the number of victims is 300,000 of the Nanjing massacre.
On the other hand, before the National Revolutionary Army fled from Nanjing, it was announced that the number of unarmed people in Nanjing was 200,000.
And when the Japanese army left Nanjing, there were about 220,000 to 250,000 citizens in Nanjing. This can be confirmed from multiple records.
The reason the number of people after the Japanese army withdrew is higher than the number announced by the National Revolutionary Army is because Nanjing citizens who had evacuated due to fear of fighting returned to Nanjing.
Don't people who claim that there was a massacre in Nanjing think it's strange to hear these numbers?
And I also have to say that the number of casualties doubled every year by the CCP, which has also never fought a war with Japan, is highly questionable.
Because all of their claims are also based on hearsay and rumors, but there is no objective evidence.
When China registered the Nanjing Massacre in the World Memory Heritage Site, the Japanese government protested and asked to release the "evidence" submitted for registration.
However, China still refuses to release it.
If they are objectively consistent with historical facts and existing materials, and are really evidence that can prove the Nanjing Massacre, they have no reason to reject it, right?
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Second, it has already revealed that the stories about Unit 731 and comfort women are fabricated propaganda.
From 1999 to 2007, the United States spent eight years and $30 million conducting a thorough investigation of classified U.S. documents related to the following alleged war crimes:
- The Japanese military systematically forcibly kidnapped 200,000 women, turned them into sex slaves, and killed them when they became sick.
- Allied prisoners of war were turned into guinea pigs for bacterial experiments at Unit 731's facility in Mukden, and bacteria were used in Japanese balloon bombs.
Among about 140,000 pages of classified documents about Unit 731 collected by the United States, the only document found was one in which he concluded that "germ warfare is unthinkable for the foreseeable future."
However, no evidence of human experimentation or germ warfare was found.
Regarding comfort women, the following facts were revealed, and on the contrary, criminality was denied.
- The comfort women system was an extension of the prostitution system that was legalized in Japan at the time.
-The Japanese military initiated this system to prevent general violence against women and the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.
- The US military did not recognize the criminality of the Japanese military's comfort women system.
As a result, almost none of the evidence and materials expected to be found among the approximately 8.5 million pages of classified documents were found.
The results can be confirmed in the report published on the web.
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Third, then let's take a look at what actually happened on the so-called Bataan Death March.
❶The US military fled, abandoning tens of thousands of soldiers who were unable to move due to illness or injury.
❷The Japanese army captured the American soldiers who were left behind, but there was a complete lack of medicine and food.
❸The Japanese military tried to transport the POWs to a camp, but the railroad they were supposed to use for transport was destroyed by the U.S. military and could no longer be used.
With no other option, the Japanese army marched to the camp on foot with most of the POWs, except for the seriously ill.
❹They walked over 60 kilometers over 4-5 days, an average of 14 kilometers a day in about 4 hours in the cool mornings and evenings.
❺The Japanese army lacked food, but food was also distributed to prisoners of war. However, misunderstandings arose due to differences in food culture. For example, American soldiers later accused being forced to eat burdock, a common Japanese food, as abuse.
❻ Japanese soldiers were trained and used to walking 20 kilometers a day, but American soldiers were not. In addition, many people were infected with malaria due to being hidden in the jungle for a long time. According to statistics from Camp O'Donnell, the total number of people who died or escaped during the march was about 21,000. (Most of the prisoners were Filipinos, and Filipinos who escaped during the march were considered dead, so the dead and escapees are totaled.)
The United States used this for propaganda purposes, accusing the Japanese military of mistreating prisoners of war.
But I think, the US military, which had killed 99% of the Japanese soldiers who surrendered throughout the war, has no right to criticize the Japanese military, which at least tried to keep the US POWs alive.
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As a Japanese I have to say that I have doubts about the number of casualties caused by the Japanese military as claimed by the Chinese side.
At the post-war Tokyo Trials, Chiang Kai-shek stated that the number of victims was about 1,000,000, including 200,000 in the Nanjing Massacre.
However, although it is claimed that a massacre occurred during the Nanjing Incident, there is no objective evidence of the massacre, only hearsay and rumors.
The Chinese Communist Party now claims the number of victims is 300,000 of the Nanjing massacre.
On the other hand, before the National Revolutionary Army fled from Nanjing, it was announced that the number of unarmed people in Nanjing was 200,000.
And when the Japanese army left Nanjing, there were about 220,000 to 250,000 citizens in Nanjing. This can be confirmed from multiple records.
The reason the number of people after the Japanese army withdrew is higher than the number announced by the National Revolutionary Army is because Nanjing citizens who had evacuated due to fear of fighting returned to Nanjing.
Don't people who claim that there was a massacre in Nanjing think it's strange to hear these numbers?
And I also have to say that the number of casualties doubled every year by the CCP, which has also never fought a war with Japan, is highly questionable.
Because all of their claims are also based on hearsay and rumors, but there is no objective evidence.
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The claim that Japanese soldiers used civilians as shields is nothing more than an ugly excuse from the United States.
In normal times, it was common for Japanese companies to set up dormitories or employee quarters in their factories and provide benefits such as meals to single workers. After that, stores were built around the factory to accommodate many employees, entertainment facilities were built, and a town was formed. For this reason, Japan's industrial areas have always been adjacent to corporate factories and towns where people live.
When the war began, various factories were called upon to produce munitions. For example, garment factories were commissioned by the government to manufacture military uniforms and became munitions factories. Similarly, various factories became munitions factories producing articles for military use.
Because of the presence of these munitions factories, the United States burned down cities and killed many civilians.
But as Curtis LeMay later said, in reality the United States simply "wanted to kill as many Japanese as possible."
In other words, the expression that the Japanese government “used civilians as shields” is nothing more than an excuse to avoid criticism of the indiscriminate massacre of civilians by the US military.
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@criscrosxxx
The Nanjing Massacre was a propaganda fabricated by American missionaries to get American anti-war factions to accept war with Japan.
Even the deliberations at the Tokyo Trials, which were called a lynching by the victorious nations against the defeated nation, failed to prove that a massacre had taken place.
Now, the Chinese Communist Party claims that the number of victims of Nanjing at that time was 300,000.
On the other hand, before the National Revolutionary Army fled from Nanjing, the number of unarmed people in Nanjing was announced to be 200,000.
And when the Japanese army left Nanjing, there were about 220,000 to 250,000 citizens in Nanjing.
This can be confirmed from multiple records.
The reason the number of people when the Japanese army withdrew is higher than the number announced by the National Revolutionary Army is because Nanjing citizens who had evacuated due to fear of fighting returned to Nanjing.
I'm really curious, but don't the people who join the Chinese Communist Party in shouting, "There was a Nanjing Massacre'' hear these numbers and think "something is wrong?''
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It is true that apart from the group of those in favor of an early end to the war, centered around the Emperor and Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki, there were two other groups that opposed the acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration.
One was the pro-Soviet group, which had ties to the communist forces.
Japan was an obstacle to the Soviet Union in expanding its hegemony in the Pacific.
Therefore, since Lenin's time, there was a plan to weaken Japan by having Japan fight China and then the United States in order to bring Japan into the Soviet side.
This is clear from Lenin's speech records, etc.
As revealed by the Venona documents, there were about 200 communist spies in the Roosevelt administration, and about 50,000 communist spies in Japan.
Japan held communist spies as thought criminals, but communists had been silently infiltrating Japan, with the Japanese Communist Party being secretly established and other examples.
The United States had not replyed to Japan's request for peace talks until the Potsdam Declaration, so the Japanese government asked the Soviet Union to mediate peace talks under the Japan-Soviet Neutrality Pact.
Although Stalin had publicly stated that he would side with the Allies in October 1943, the Soviet ambassador did not clearly reject the request from Japan and continued to delay his answer.
It is true that a group of young officers attempted a coup d'état just before the end of the war was declared. In letters exchanged by these officers, who were later found to be communists, they wrote that "If the war ends with the Soviet Union as an intermediary, the Soviet Union will have a stronger say in Japan's postwar settlement, and there is a possibility that Japan will be placed under Soviet control."
Based on this idea, leaders within the government who wanted the war to end through the Soviet Union's mediation rather than through the acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration were opposed to the Potsdam Declaration until the Soviet invasion.
The other group were true conservative military personnel who could not agree to the acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration unless the retention of the Emperor was guaranteed.
They continued to say that they would "fight to the end" in order to control the young soldiers who were instigated by the communists who had infiltrated the military while pretending to be conservatives, so that they would not run wild and start a coup d'état.
The young soldiers are believed to have attempted a coup in reaction to the sudden shift towards ending the war.
In other words, the leaders who opposed accepting the Potsdam Declaration also had no intention of fighting to the last man.
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@Tinfoil_Hardhat
The view that the Japanese government was reluctant was from the "American side."
From the records of the cabinet meeting at that time, the American response to the approach to peace talks through Switzerland was discussed, and since the Americans ignored it, it was decided to ask the Soviet Union to mediate the peace talks.
At this point, it is clear that the leaders were discussing the premise of "ending the war" or "surrendering," not "fighting to the last man."
Surrender = defeat, and it was easily foreseen that this would cause great unrest among the people.
On the other hand, as mentioned above, there were many communists in Japan who were looking for an opportunity to take advantage of the domestic turmoil to start a communist revolution.
For this reason, the government's actions to end the war had to be carried out quietly and behind the scenes.
All of this was because the Japanese government was wary of communist forces.
However, until the Korean War broke out, the United States considered communism to be merely an advanced form of socialism, and was not particularly wary of it.
This is thought to have influenced the US's judgment.
The Foreign Minister's actions were likely due to the fact that he considered the Soviet mediation, which at least had given ambiguous responses from its ambassador, to be more promising than the Swiss OSS, which had not responded at all, and he himself was putting effort into dealings with the Soviets.
However, Stalin had already made an agreement with Britain and the United States in February to invade Japan in exchange for territorial expansion.
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@ostrichhe4d
After the war, several U.S. government agencies conducted studies on the effects of the atomic bomb, including radiation measurements in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and surrounding areas.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the testing grounds for their new bombs.
And of course, the Japanese people who survived the atomic bombing were their guinea pigs.
The United States established the ABCC out of ``the need to permanently investigate the destructive power that radioactivity has on the human body.''
ABCC used the power of GHQ to use Japan's 1950 census to determine the population of living A-bomb survivors.
As a result, 284,000 atomic bomb survivors were confirmed in 1950.
And, in Japan, there is a system in which the state pays 100% of the medical costs for those who are recognized by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare as suffering from atomic bomb disease.
In some cases, the disease is recognized as atomic bomb disease after the onset of the disease.
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I want to know where you heard about such a parade of bullshit.
I don't think the Japanese soldiers didn't do anything wrong at all.
However, today it became clear that NOT everything the Allies has accused Japan of committing during World War II was true by declassification of confidential documents and their research.
The Allies circulated a lot of propaganda/fake news to raise their fighting spirit, like recently.
After the war, the Allies have further adapted and used them to hide the dirty demeanor they did and their own war crimes.
For example, the Nanjing massacre is one such propaganda.
Now, the Chinese Communist Party claims that the number of victims of Nanjing at that time was 300,000.
On the other hand, before the National Revolutionary Army fled from Nanjing, the number of unarmed people in Nanjing was announced to be 200,000.
And when the Japanese army left Nanjing, there were about 220,000 to 250,000 citizens in Nanjing.
This can be confirmed from multiple records.
The reason the number of people when the Japanese army withdrew is higher than the number announced by the National Revolutionary Army is because Nanjing citizens who had evacuated due to fear of fighting returned to Nanjing.
I'm really curious, but don't the people who join the Chinese Communist Party in shouting, "There was a Nanjing Massacre'' hear these numbers and think "something is wrong?''
Chiang Kai-shek claimed that the Japanese army had killed 1 million people at the Tokyo Trials, including the massacre of 200,000 people in this fictitious Nanjing Massacre.
However, even the deliberations at the Tokyo Trials, which were called a lynching by the victorious nations against the defeated nation, failed to prove that a massacre had taken place.
Nevertheless, this story has since been further distorted and used by the Allies to justify war crimes against Japan, such as the emotional lynching of the Tokyo Trials and the dropping of the atomic bomb.
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The story of the Korean Peninsula is even more fabricated than that of China.
At that time, Koreans were annexed by Japan, so they were protected by Japan.
Men on the Korean Peninsula were not even drafted into the military.
There were some brave Koreans who went to the battlefield as Japanese soldiers, but they were all volunteers.
A thorough investigation conducted by the United States from 1999 to 2007 has already revealed that the comfort women issue that South Korea has been promoting for many years is fabricated propaganda.
Home environment affects people's lifespan.
For example, in the Soviet Union, where society was in ruins after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the average life expectancy of both men and women rapidly declined, reaching 57.8 years in 1994.
Meanwhile, during the Japanese annexation period, the average life expectancy of Koreans who claim to have suffered atrocities and massacres by the Japanese military increased from 25 to 45 years, and the population nearly doubled from 13 million to 25 million. did.
This is what official statistics tell us, and this fact proves that what they are saying is completely false.
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The story that starvation in Vietnam was the responsibility of the Japanese army is also fabricated political propaganda.
The source of the "2 million starvation incident" seems to be based on the following part of the "Declaration of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam" read by Ho Chi Minh, President of the Provisional Government, on September 2, 1945.
“In the fall of 1940, when Japanese fascists invaded Indochina to expand their base to attack the Allies, the French colonialists bowed their knees and surrendered, opening their country's doors and inviting Japan in. From that time on, our people were under the double yoke of France and Japan. Since then, our people have become increasingly poor and poor. As a result, more than 2 million fellow countrymen died of starvation from late last year to early this year, from Quang Tri (in the central region) to Bach Bo (in the north). ”
Certainly, in September 1940, after the Japan-French Indochina Military Agreement was signed, that is, with the permission of the Vichy government, Japanese troops stationed into French Indochina.
The purpose was to "cut off the supply route for arms and supplies from the United States to Chiang Kai-shek.”
So, it was necessary for the Japanese military stationed in French Indochina to establish a cooperative relationship and coexist with the Vichy government's Office of the Governor-General of French Indochina.
So at first they did not annihilate the French governors who had attacked the Japanese Station Forces, ignoring the orders of the French government, and made peace with them.
And then, the Japanese military maintained a cooperative relationship with the French Indochina Government-General and lived modestly in a remote area far from civilization.
And the Japanese military did not directly give orders or force anything to the ordinary people in Vietnam, and the necessary amount of food was purchased from the French colonial government.
Afterwards, when the Vichy government fell in France, the French colonial government in French Indochina turned to the Allied side, and after a battle with the Japanese army, the French disarmed.
This was March 1945.
In other words, Japan only had effective control over French Indochina for 5 months until August 1945.
Moreover, as Mr. Ho Chi Minh said, the two million deaths from starvation occurred from the end of 1944 to the beginning of 1945, during which time Vietnam was under French rule.
In short, there is no reason for Japan to be held responsible for the starvation deaths.
At that time, Hanoi was alternately hit by great floods and droughts, resulting in many starving deaths.
In the 1990s, communist forces fabricated propaganda linking this to the Japanese military because it was close to when they happened.
Originally, northern Vietnam relied on transportation from the southern granary for food supply.
However, the number of deaths from starvation in the north increased due to the fact that the railroads to the granary areas of the south tended to be cut off due to Allied bombing.
Furthermore, the amount of rice that Vietnam claims was taken is extremely strange.
The Japanese 21st Division, stationed in French Indochina, had a maximum strength of approximately 25,000 soldiers.
Assuming that all of those 25,000 soldiers ate 10 cups (20 rice bowls🍚, 1.5 kg) a day like gluttonous sumo wrestlers, the rice consumption of the entire army was 37,500 kg/day.
In other words, the annual rice requirement for the 21st Division in this case would be approximately 13,700 tons/year.
Meanwhile, Vietnam claims that the Japanese military captured 468,000 tons in the first three months.
In the above case, this amount of rice is equivalent to 34 years' worth of rice.
And, Vietmam says that a total of 3,550,000 tons were also taken over the next five years.
The amount is more than 50 times that of five years.
However, considering that the Japanese military did not have to steal tens of times more rice, this story can only be called insane.
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@tedolphbundler724
As an Asian looking back at history, I think you Westerners crossed the line as humans long before the Civil War.
After the war, the US established the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (ABCC) in Hiroshima and Nagasaki to investigate the effects of radiation.
The ABCC housed people who were affected by the atomic bomb in facilities, claiming to treat them.
However, no treatment was given to the victims.
They took blood samples from the patients, took photos of their wounds and keloids, recorded their condition, and removed their organs when they died.
They sent those organs and other samples to the US along with various studies and records.
And, the ABCC measured radiation levels in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the surrounding areas, and continued to monitor the health of Japanese people in areas with high radiation levels.
When the nuclear explosed, huge clouds containing a large amount of nuclear material which was scattered from the bomb occurred.
Those clouds cooled in the sky and turned into black rain containing radioactive material, which fell over a wider area than the explosion.
There is a record of ABCC monitoring the health of people in areas around Nagasaki where the explosion had no effect, but where very high levels of radiation were measured due to black rain that fell from the air currents.
Therefore, it should be considered a misinformation that the radiation from the atomic bomb used on Japan disappeared immediately.
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As an Asian looking back at history, I think you Westerners crossed the line as humans long before the Civil War.
After the war, the US established the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (ABCC) in Hiroshima and Nagasaki to investigate the effects of radiation.
The ABCC housed people who were affected by the atomic bomb in facilities, claiming to treat them.
However, no treatment was given to the victims.
They took blood samples from the patients, took photos of their wounds and keloids, recorded their condition, and removed their organs when they died.
They sent those organs and other samples to the US along with various studies and records.
And, the ABCC measured radiation levels in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the surrounding areas, and continued to monitor the health of Japanese people in areas with high radiation levels.
When the nuclear explosed, huge clouds containing a large amount of nuclear material which was scattered from the bomb occurred.
Those clouds cooled in the sky and turned into black rain containing radioactive material, which fell over a wider area than the explosion.
There is a record of ABCC monitoring the health of people in areas around Nagasaki where the explosion had no effect, but where very high levels of radiation were measured due to black rain that fell from the air currents.
Therefore, it should be considered a misinformation that the radiation from the atomic bomb used on Japan disappeared immediately.
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@IAmTheRealHim
The record of a Series of Japan's Proposals for Peace Talks with the United States, declassified in 1993, began in January 1945. In other words, Japan had been planning to end the war even before the air raids began, and had requested peace talks from the United States.
Yes, at that time the United States was only willing to accept unconditional surrender.
However, looking at what was done to Native Americans and the Hawaiian Kingdom, it is a "traditional" act for white Americans to kill as many people of color, especially those who oppose white people, as possible.
From the Japanese perspective, unconditional surrender meant the extinction of the Japanese race in the worst case.
Therefore, the Japanese government began by prying open diplomatic channels that had been completely cut off, and the first record of contact was finally made in January 1945.
Your question was, "How much blood was shed?"
The estimated number of casualties from Japan's air raids, including the dead and missing, is said to be between 300,000 and 1 million.
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@tedolphbundler724
As I wrote above, if Japan would be annihilated like the Native Americans even if they surrendered unconditionally, wouldn't it be natural to try to negotiate a conditional surrender?
As we can see from what was done to Native Americans and the Hawaiian Kingdom, it is "traditional" and very natural for white Americans to kill as many people of color, especially those who resist whites, as possible.
Therefore, for Japan, unconditional surrender would mean the extinction of the Japanese race in the worst case scenario.
In the first place, even before the war with Japan began, the FDR administration wanted to exterminate the Japanese race if it's possible.
This was well known to most Japanese people and was one of the reasons the war started.
Yes, like you, the United States also thought that "the winning side does not have to meet the demands of the losing side."
And from the beginning, their plan also included killing as many Japanese as possible.
At that time, the United States, which was almost certain to win the war, ignored Japan's request for peace negotiations from January and did not respond to the request until the Potsdam Declaration was issued.
So, knowing that Japan was essentially waving the white flag, the United States bombed Japan, tested atomic bombs, and committed indiscriminate mass murder.
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It was Chiang Kai-shek, with the support of the United States, who started the Sino-Japanese War.
Three weeks after the Marco Polo Bridge Incident, Japan, not wanting the conflict to escalate, concluded four peace agreements with Chiang Kai-shek.
However, Chiang Kai-shek abolished all of these peace agreements by committing atrocities against Japanese residents and kidnapping and massacring Japanese soldiers.
In particular, more than 200 people were literally massacred in Tongzhou by the KMT forces led by Chiang Kai-shek, and Tianjin, where there were about 10,000 Japanese residents, was also attacked on the same day.
As a result, in order to protect the lives and property of Japanese residents, the Japanese government decided to increase the number of security forces, which had been restrained until then despite frequent violent incidents against Japanese residents.
Furthermore, Chiang Kai-shek surrounded the Japanese concession in Shanghai, bombing and shelling it.
At that time, Shanghai was a place where Japanese people who could no longer bear the atrocities in various parts of China and wanted to return to Japan gathered, so about 30,000 Japanese people lived there.
Thus, Chiang Kai-shek's KMT's persistent provocations against the Japanese led to conflict that escalated into war.
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@boijames3253
A thorough investigation by the United States shows that the story of Unit 731 was a communist fabrication.
Unit 731 was originally an anti-epidemic unit. During the war with the Qing Dynasty, 90% of the Japanese casualties were due to epidemics of infectious diseases on the continent.
For this reason, Japan later became to set up a unit to research water supply and epidemic prevention. Unit 731 was just one of them.
After invading Manchuria, the Soviet army unfairly detained some members of Unit 731 and forced them to testify at the trial that "outrageous things had been done" using torture and other means. But this was a forced "confession" through death threats and unwarranted interrogation and torture. There was also an environment in which they were brainwashed as if the story they wanted POW to admit was actually done. Therefore, those veterans's confessions are not credible.
It was in the 1980s that the story of Unit 731 came out again.
It was through the novel "Devil's gluttony," which was published in a newspaper published by the Japanese Communist Party.
The author of the novel said that he was inspired by Unit 731, but that the content of story was fictional. However, the communists took it as if it were true and made a fuss.
And a report that seems to prove that the content written in the novel is true was also "discovered".
The report said that this was a summary report of a confidential document signed an affidavit of 19 doctors of Unit 731.
Because of this report, the Chinese believed Unit 731 had actually done something outrageous.
The Chinese thought that in the archives of classified US documents, which had a habit of recording everything, there should be an affidavit signed by 19 doctors of Unit 731, objective evidence of human experiments, etc.
The president of the United States at that time had been strongly backed by a big Chinese group in the United States, so he responded to demands of Chinese supporters for the investigation by spending about $30 million in U.S. tax dollars to conduct an in-depth study over a period of 8 years from 1999 to 2007.
However, the "affidavits of 19 doctors" were not found.
As you know, the President of the United States has the authority to declassify any confidential documents.
Nevertheless, no "affidavits signed by 19 doctors" nor notes or reports as evidence of human experiments were found.
In short, it has already been revealed decades ago that such a terrible story of Unit 731 is all propaganda fabricated by communist forces.
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Re-submit the following
@boijmes
A thorough investigation by the United States shows that the story of Unit 731 was a communist fabrication.
Unit 731 was originally an anti-epidemic unit. During the war with the Qing Dynasty, 90% of the Japanese casualties were due to epidemics of infectious diseases on the continent.
For this reason, Japan later became to set up a unit to research water supply and epidemic prevention. Unit 731 was just one of them.
After invading Manchuria, the Soviet army unfairly detained some members of Unit 731 and forced them to testify at the trial that "outrageous things had been done" using torture and other means. But this was a forced "confession" through death threats and unwarranted interrogation and torture. There was also an environment in which they were brainwashed as if the story they wanted POW to admit was actually done. Therefore, those veterans's confessions are not credible.
It was in the 1980s that the story of Unit 731 came out again.
It was through the novel "Devil's gluttony," which was published in a newspaper published by the Japanese Communist Party.
The author of the novel said that he was inspired by Unit 731, but that the content of story was fictional. However, the communists took it as if it were true and made a fuss.
And a report that seems to prove that the content written in the novel is true was also "discovered".
The report said that this was a summary report of a confidential document signed an affidavit of 19 doctors of Unit 731.
Because of this report, the Chinese believed Unit 731 had actually done something outrageous.
The Chinese thought that in the archives of classified US documents, which had a habit of recording everything, there should be an affidavit signed by 19 doctors of Unit 731, objective evidence of human experiments, etc.
The president of the United States at that time had been strongly backed by a big Chinese group in the United States, so he responded to demands of Chinese supporters for the investigation by spending about $30 million in U.S. tax dollars to conduct an in-depth study over a period of 8 years from 1999 to 2007.
However, the "affidavits of 19 doctors" were not found.
As you know, the President of the United States has the authority to declassify any confidential documents.
Nevertheless, no "affidavits signed by 19 doctors" nor notes or reports as evidence of human experiments were found.
In short, it has already been revealed decades ago that such a terrible story of Unit 731 is all propaganda fabricated by communist forces.
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