Comments by "Вячеслав Скопюк" (@user-yj8vj3sq6j) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1. Ian, you are mistaken about the fact that the army authorities wanted to leave the soldiers with Mosin rifles. The Red Army was planned to be fully armed with self-loading rifles.Hence the skepticism in relation to submachine guns. And, as far as I remember, one PPD cost as 5 Mosin rifles P.S. I should correct myself about the numbers. PPD cost was about 900 rubles in 1939, while the DP-27 cost 1100 rubles. SVT cost about 700 rubles
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  2. it looks strange with that black plastic
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  3. that's black powder, after all
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  4. brilliant
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  5. +NotTheWorst are you implying that DP-27, PPSh-41 or AK/AKM were designed by Germans? Tell me moar
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  6. > The Sturmgewehr had no chance to prove itself after WW2 As far as I know, it was used long after the WW2
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  7. It's debatable. Soviet submachineguns of similar size, weight and range were in no means "personal defense" weapons
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  8. +clothar23 Soviet Marines preferred SVT to Mosin, for example
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  9. o yeah
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  10. Just compare that with G11
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  11. She also can have place in someone's collection
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  12. Looks like grammar KGB did his job
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  13. +RonJohn63 >Let's kill 20MM people and build heavy industry r you nuts? Where did the numbers come from?
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  14. +DreamingFlurry >: I'd rather have ONE very good gun with a soldier who extensively trained with that gun, than 3-4 half-decent guns with conscripts using them that's a good way to lose a war >it was never German doctrine to overwhelm the enemy with foot-soldiers then why infantry divisions(foot soldiers, in other words) formed the bulk of the German army during WW1 and WW2?
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  15. More like comrade Lin Zhao - it's definitely chinese hat he is wearing
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  16. >the Finns made a great smg, then the Soviets copied it, then they simplified it, then they really simplified it and then the Finns copied it back... are you serious?
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  17. +Johannes D'ambruoso >Most historians agree on 20 mil Soviet atrocities commited against non combatant civillian populations lolwut? >About double that for Mao. lolwut? >The 20 million number is pretty generous considering before 1940 it was mostly ethnic Jews who were in control of Soviet union, and it would be taboo to speak out against them r'u mad or just drunk?
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  18.  @BuggaBoy69  >It’s an amalgamation of “borrowed” design elements from hundreds of weapons designers you really don't understand what engineering got into that 'amalgamation' >and the whole profile and concept of the gun was copied off the Germans ROFL. Really? I suppose, you didn't see weapons like AVS or SVT. Not to mention things like RPS-3 or TKB-336
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  19. +KOLMEKAKKONE look at MP-18. And don't be ridiculous. "Copied design", my ass
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  20. + Tomartyr Hugo worked in Izhewsk, and Kalashnikov - in Kovrow. Same place, of course :D
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  21. +Jacob Lester as for russian systems - they use sea water
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  22. > the Germans are really good at gun design.. you are joking, right?
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  23. +Robuster Polonier compare PPSh-41 with STEN and M3. Is it really "nothing special" for war-time SMG?
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  24. +A Nonymous stop spreading bullshit, I beg you
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  25. AFAIR, KP9 isn't for poors
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  26. +KarlEller didn't find any source in english. And nobody shoots whales while they under the surface
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  27. +von sauerkraut MG42 is not light in any of the meanings
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  28. facepalm
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  29. It's "Korobov", Ian, not "Koborov"
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  30. >machine carbine The Germans just so called their early assault rifles
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  31. that was a german Kampfpistole, i suppose
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  32.  @BuggaBoy69  >The Ak is NOT a battle rifle like an svt but AK 'profile' looks like SVT. Or AVS. Or RPS-3. Or TKB-336. >If you know about the history of the “assault rifle” then you know the Mp-43/stg/44 preceded the ak and provided the blueprint for kalashnikov to “invent” his rifle. facepalm. >Basically the same gas system, extremely similar cartridge design, the profile and ergonomics of the weapon are the same you really don't know anything about soviet weapons except AK, do you? Though, you don't know much about AK too. "Basically the same gas system", ROFL
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  33. +Zhuurgen you will change your mind if you will be forced to carry it with you on a multi-kilometer foot march, and not carry in a cozy APC
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  34. Is it a japanese cap?
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  35. +Weeb-kun which doesn't exists
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  36. +dandhan87 nope. AFAIK, finnish AK copied not from AKM but other Warshaw Pakt AK variant
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  37. > it was so simple that in the surrounded Leningrad it began to produce even in a small private, not owned by the state artel, which was called "Primus" to be correct - those guys were in no way "small". Read kris-reid.livejournal.com/660569.html
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  38. + TheGoldenCaulk Marstar used brass bullets, not original AP cartridge
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  39. Best SMG in Silent Storm :D
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  40. +Ed What's his name try to make SOME smokeles powder at home, lol
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  41. Butcher_of_Rivia with that "russians copyed" crap
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  42. You really should familiarize yourself with likes of AN-94. Or something of Korobov's designs
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  43. +Johannes D'ambruoso i think you didn't live in DDR for one day
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  44. +Dong Blak it was a hundred years ago. Brits, Germans, Americans - they all designed good weapons then
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  45. +aserta that's The Great German Weapon Designers(tm) for you :D
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  46. ***** tht's Karl influence
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  47. +Serdiuk Paul of course it's possible. But I would be afraid to load small arms cartridges with such powder.
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  48. +Alen Wagner не плачь, маленький. Информацию я давно уже нашел, и даже малость с тобой поделился. Но не в коня корм. Ничего, вырастешь, поумнеешь
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  49. ты примерно 50-й человек, кто про это пишет. Или даже 150-й
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  50. hot
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  51. It's fun to see that US finally adopted rifle made to fight in Afghanistan year after withdrawing from Afghanistan
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  52. +Statusinator they added wheels on the later versions
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  53. Ian, being a french guns lover, how do you rate french machineguns in general?
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  54. Lol, "swarming". Nope, they just waited when (and if) Panzers get close
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  55. +Failer95 yes, it was a joke
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  56. +Richardsen > The cheap, easy to manufacture nature of the AK-47 is also a prevalent idea in the StG 44. are you implying that soviet firearms previous to AK were expensive and hard to manufacture? And you do it in the comments section of the clip about PPS-43?
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  57. if by 'target' they mean mass of man, shaped into large rectangular formations and dressed in bright uniforms - it doesn't look like impossible deed
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  58. there are copies of such rifles
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  59. Джон Смит yep, I remebered. Haven't see these for years
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  60. +Anonymous did anyone here provided arguments, backed up with facts and sources? Nope. So, why should I start?
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  61. +KOLMEKAKKONE it isn't a copy. But it looks like MP-18, don't you think?
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  62.  @nichevo1  Nazis introduced Gewehr 41, remember?
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  63. +Richardsen > but the Soviets were not universally making simple stuff thing is, that Soviets were making simple stuff much more often than the Germans. Much more often. > this very same video speaks also about the PPD-40, which was not a cheap and simple weapon Yes, and it was produced in thousands. Not millions, like PPSh. Not even tens of thousands. >With the AK-47, the Soviets could have gone either simple or complex. nope, With AK-47 they could have gone ONLY with simple to produce, relatively cheap, reliable construction. That were the lessons of WW2. >hell, look at the AN-94 do you see it produced in substantial quantities and massively adopted?
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  64. Китайская же
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  65. you already have
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  66. Oh. I got your point. Maybe, demand was 'magazine capacity not lover than Lewis machine gun', which at that time were in service with the Red Army
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  67. Finnish civil war is pretty much known in Russia. That's quite a few non-Finnish people
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  68. Zathaghil you are completely misunderstand the role of Finland. They keep NATO at arms length
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  69. +NovaMan 350 nope, is basically an Russian rifle, based on Mosin design
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  70.  @NikoChristianWallenberg  you are joking, right? Nobody can be that stupid
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  71. +Pievel C He is offended by the fact that a person who has a certain authority, literally retells rumors
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  72. +Strawman nope, it's just to compensate aiming errors. USA, Germany and who knows else danced around same idea with SPIW, G11, etc.
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  73. +williwonti Only those that were designed with simplicity in mind
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  74. +The Stoned Videogame Nerd and try not to blow off your shooting hand :D
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  75. +Alen Wagner >Если бы не видел, я бы не писал. т.е. тот факт, что у них ствольная коробка устроена совершенно разным образом, с вытекающим отсюда взаимодействием с УСМ, и принцип запирания отличный, ты игнорировал. Сдается мне, нихрена ты не видел >Та сам Калашников сказал, что концепт взял из мп44 Ага. Взял концепт из МП-44 и игнорировал существовавщий на 44-й год Автомат Судаева АС-44. Ты, поди, и источником этих слов Калашникова поделишься? А то я вот что-то помню, что он предком АК называл М1 >как Никонов взял концепт Калашникова и доработал и создал АН-94 ебать у тебя в голове каша. У тебя поди и vz. 58 - "доработка концепта Калашникова". Посмотри видео на этом же канале про АН-94 и скажи, насколько он к АК относится
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  76. > Stalin's response to reports that Soviet Engineering was not up to serving in combat was to order that any crew who had a broken transmission on a T-34 was to be shot because they obviously had sabotaged the perfect People's Gear Box themselves from what kind of ass you pulled that bullshit? >Soldiers were simply there to be gleefully expended if ten of them could bring down one German. another bullshit >Stalin was the posthumously-diagnosed psychopath in charge of it during time of war. and another. are you drunk, high or simply you are an idiot?
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  77. +A Nonymous try reading comething of my own history that isn't wikipedia or popular journals articles > There are reasons every country in Eastern Europe fears you. yep. Their generals want to buy new expensive toys, like in good old days of Soviet Union
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  78. PPD-40 is a copy of PPD-34/38. And PPD-34/38 is a copy of PPD-34. Should I continue?
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  79. you can watch Ian's videos on PPD and PPSh for clarification
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  80. WH40K bolter grandfather is Gyrojet
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  81. flash hider
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  82. Juho Mäki-Petäjä you are full of ignorance. KP-/31 had little of common with PPD or PPSh. So, about what ''simplification' you are talking about?
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  83. Actually, except that both are open bolt SMG's, they aren't similar
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  84. +romanmir01 I think you don't know anyone history one bit
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  85. +Anonymous what are you trying to achieve here? Show to all interested, what ignorant wannabe troll you are? You succeeded, then
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  86.  @oscarmuffin4322  people do exactly that - they buy some ridiculously expensive wine and put it in the cellar. Or even more ridiculously expensive car and put it into garage
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  87. brilliant
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  88. rifles didn't do much good to the allies. Even in the field battles
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  89. +suddenwall they used Henry rifles, for example )
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  90. DP-27, LS-29, Maxim and that finnish LMG were alredy presented on the channel
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  91. they didn't 'felt' it. PSM was created as a concealed carry weapon
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  92. steampunk would be steam cannon(it's a real thing)
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  93. Tomartyr  it is something unknown to russian experts. Could you provide source?
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  94. Butcher_of_Rivia you're late
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  95. +Alen Wagner чувак, ты своими глазами хоть видел, как штурмгевер разбирается? В разборе он почему-то процентов на 80 похож на М-16
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  96. that thing use black powder
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  97. +Большой_Звезды _Протуберанец наверное потому что в конструкции винтовки образца 1981 мало что осталось от системы Нагана?
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  98. +pdittrich >So the AK is (in soviet terms) a submachinegun... nope. It's assault rifle. In the sense that the Germans put in this term. It was meant to replace SMG's
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  99. +Random Name >автома́т (avtomát) which basically means automatic rifle. you are wrong here. "Автомат" means "Automatic carbine". And implies the use of an intermediate cartridge
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  100. You got wrong picture of 'communism' in general and USSR in particular. It wasn't so simple
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  101. and suspiciously like MP-18
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  102. bolt should have some mass. And you forgetting the recoil spring
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  103. there are strange people on the island. Maybe, it goes with the fish diet
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  104. Masrtar tinkered with cartridge. The used brass bullet, and, AFAIR, less gunpowder
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  105. google "Kalashnikov automatic pistol"
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  106. PPSh has the size of AK
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  107. Gavin H Strangely, Sten requires more machining. Those tubes...
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  108. Victoria Seras did that already
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  109. they made them, AFAIR. There is a video
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  110. +EK All kinds of stuff was made in Leningrad under siege. It was the city with most poweful industry in USSR, after all
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  111. facepalm. Have you seen the internal workings of kp?
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  112. I think, proper 'flare pistol' are just simpler to use and make. You need to reload them, remember?
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  113. Why it so similar to Sa vz. 26?
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  114. quarter automatic, yes
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  115. the TFB TV is your channel of choice
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  116. Okay."Abakan" competition was started in 1981. USA didn't issued military with body armour, capable of withstanding assault rifle rounds, until 1990s
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  117. >simplicity - is main idea of designing weapon in Russia as a matter of fact - no. Russia had its own share of complex weapons. There is an emphasis on reliability, though.
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  118. banaana1234 facepalm. How the hell PPSh concept was based on KP-/31, when USSR had indigenous SMG designs, similar to PPSh, since late 20-s?
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  119. Juho Mäki-Petäjä lol. That's all? Look at blueprints. Find similar elements
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  120. it's grammar KGB doing
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  121. as it was intended to
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  122. +GottJäger views counter never ever updates in real time
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  123. You are drunk. Go home
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  124. +Captain BaseBallBat-Boy infantry gun, no matter how perfect he was, gives no significant advantage to one side. The real advantage France get with adoption of the 75 mle 1897, 10 years later
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  125. it's a rifle made for Afghan mountains, that's all
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  126. he said пАпаша
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  127. +Dalle Smalhals because you don't win the war with machineguns, no matter how good they were
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  128. > how come the Soviets had so much trouble with stamped receivers if they had help from german engineers who had mass produced things like the MG-42 or the StG-44. in order for german engineers to help you with stamping you need to have german factories, german workers and german steel
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  129. except is nothing like a Thompson, inside or outside :D
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  130. who need that goddamn heavy expensive gun?
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  131. this is typical for many submachine guns
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  132. +Tyngchinchilla Chang PPS 43 isn't a "simplier version".
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  133. +Farley Moab yep, back in 1927, when Degtyarev build his first SMG
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  134. +7.62 x39mm only one gun - AK in 7.62x39. Mosin rifle or Maxim machinegun isn't "soviet" and Finns were part of Russian Empire. I don't remeber other successful modifications of weapons of Soviet origin, made by Finns.
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  135.  @oscarmuffin4322  no more than buying ridiculously expensive clothes or food or something
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  136. +Halvspenn > the intended purpose of the StG-44 and the Fedorov Avtomat were completely different. thing is, that Germans intended StG44 as ersatz-light machinegun. Or so thought the Soviet military specialists. And the same purpose was for the assault rifles developed in the USSR since 1943
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  137. too much penetration for police use
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  138.  @hekkenschutz  You're a funny guy Sally
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  139. +tony Wyatt is it a chinese hat?
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  140. Is it heavier than PKM?
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  141. SVU are more modern rifle, than WA-2000
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  142. Sheeeeeeeit
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  143. Looks like Aimo Lahti was a very productive person
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  144. I isn't the same size
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  145. nope
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  146. xb0xisbetter >At arm's length from Russia? yep >They probably would have joined NATO themselves long ago if Russia weren't breathing down their backs the whole time. and loose excellent trade partner? No way
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  147. DT (variant for tanks) comes with 63 round magazine
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  148. + DeadTheFreak in what part, lol
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  149. Damn that thing is heavy
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  150. Maybe this was already pointed out in the comments. Danes builded a factory for the Madsen's production in Russia, in 1916. . Later it was known as "Kovrov machine gun factory", the place, where Vladimir Fyodorov and Vasily Degtyaryov worked.
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  151. As far for KGB assassins, they had theyr MSP "Groza"
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  152. There was 'American North Russia Expeditionary Force', or the 'Polar Bear Expedition '
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  153. Shilka, Tunguska, Panzir, some naval CIWS and even large caliber rapid-firing cannons like AK-130 - they all water-cooled
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  154. Wow. That's a one nice karamultuk
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  155. Somehow all 'indigenous' Finnish weapons look to me like they were cut from a single piece of metal
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  156. there were links in comments section below Velrod video
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  157. +Josh Trenton LOL, man. It's crew served weapon. And it's lighter than M2 :D
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  158. They are kinda heawy
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  159. I think, it was in some of the Q&A videos. To be short - no
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  160. 2 gun action match vs SVD? Pleas
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  161. Great video, thanks
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  162. You can live in Russia )
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  163. James Gregg при чем тут макеты? Есть "охотничьи" варианты, которые только одиночными стреляют
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  164. what about Japan and 6.5 Arisaka?
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  165. +Pievel C AK is a copy of STG-44. All one has to do to verify this - is to look at the end result. Simplified? Yes but not an original design. Don't be ridiculous.
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  166. +Alek Janowski not exactly. They were mostly AA weapons
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  167. wheellock was more reliable
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  168. +desertfox xx98 as mentioned earlier, wheellock generated sparks more reliably
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  169. it's not 'forgotten weapon' per se
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  170. +Jon H 1000yards sight are used for volley firing. Even in modern day AK
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  171. +Jeff NME smokeless powders are slow burning, as opposite to the black powder
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  172. Rakitha Peiriz it's a revolver cannon. And it's has nothing 'steam' in it
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  173. CruelestChris nope. 'Revolving' are, for example, gatling guns. And if you google 'revolver cannon', you'll see something similar to Puckle Gun
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  174. Boers also had their machineguns and field artillery
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  175. Tomartyr where?
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  176. they still in service. Not in the Russia, though
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  177. I don't remember USSR copies of German weapons, except V-2 and XXI type submarine. USA and Britain were much more advanced in the field of modern weapons, and USSR extensively copied from them
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  178. Even Häyhä didn't claymed that all his kills were did using rifle
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  179. mosin's in various forms were pretty much used in Ukraine around 2014-2016
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  180. nope
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  181. AFAIR, it was about Russo-Turkish War of 1877–78. Specifically, the Siege of Plevna. I think in this case the big role was played by the persistence of the Turkish troops and the mistakes of the Russian command, rather than the presence of rapid-fire rifles
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  182. >I get the DP part Nope. Cause P stands for Pehotniy(infantry gun), not for Pulyemyotniy(Machinegun)
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  183. quick search suggests, that there was one, but "was not popular"(с)
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  184. it is "afganka"
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  185. Nope. You could look at STEN, for example
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  186. >is much easier to understand when done like here only for you, i think
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  187. nope
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  188. You got it entirely wrong. PTRD was built as "quarter-automatic" weapon(eject spent case). BUT, because it's a war-time product, rushed into production, it had a bunch of problems. In particular - fail to open the breech and eject spent case. PTRD crew members routinely used wooden mallet to open the breech. So, it's not "to help extract case in harsh condition". It's harsh conditions that prevent rifle to work as planned and extract the case
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  189. you can't put 2 bullets in exact same place with AN-94. There is a video from "Kalashnikov media" where they checked that. And when Nikonov started to develop AN94, there was only soft body armor in use
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  190. good point
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  191. it isn't a "sniper" rifle
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  192. nope, it doesn't
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  193. and London is really a Ландан
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  194. DP28 doesn't exist. RP46 ia s belt-fed conversion of DPM which is improvement of DP27
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  195. Ага, "спиздили"
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  196. +timppa2 yep, there is a video. Look on the channel, the trawelled to the Finland recently
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  197. Not London, but ЛАндан
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  198. What was that uniform you're wearing, Ian? Is it soviet?
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  199. you are talking nonsense
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  200. looks like MP-18
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  201. Zetor-Khan the Generous look at MP-28. Looks similar to PPSh, isn'it?
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  202. In reality, they continued to work on the rifle issues long after. And failed to resolve major problems on PTRD and PTRS.
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  203. i think he already did
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  204. germans weren't exactly '"at front door' in the august
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  205. Why do you need such specialized weapon?
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  206. nope. It required stamping
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  207. there was Finnish copy in 9mm Para. And Spanish copy of Finnish copy. Sooo, you just have to find one
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  208. too much penetration. No good for police forces
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  209. They still had to work out the quirks. Crew members often had to use wooden mallet to extract spent case
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  210. +toomanyaccounts no, it wasn't
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  211. +JTN 1970 from ~ 3 Mosin rifles to ~ 1 Mosin rifle. Depending on the year of production
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  212. why should they copy KP-/31 to make PPD40, when they had PPD34/38 to copy?
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  213. You lost :D
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  214. that weapon and cartridge were made to beat Afghan goat shepherds, what are you talking about
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  215. What a neat weapon
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  216. you mean - 32 finns faced 4 soviets? At the distance of hundreds of meters ;)
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  217. plenty of similar stuff was invented during WWI
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  218. google "WWI grenade launchers"
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  219. google will bring it to you. But of course you can continue to make fuss
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  220. rather you assume, that I will do nothing for mentally challenged person, who didn't do anything to educate himself
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  221. refuses to google on something. Demands from someone to google instead of him. When get refusal, calls the other person a "little troll" Sigh I know something. Moreover, if you followed my advice, you would also have learned something. WWI grenade launchers are not a secret in any way. But you preferred to search for trolls, as any mentally handicapped person would prefer to do
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  222. You'll get no information from me. It's no use for you, after all, with your condition
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  223. What do you say when you look at MP-18?
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  224. in Leningrad was the most developed industry in the USSR. And equipment for stamping was not easy to find elsewhere
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  225. Yep, it's fiinnish equivalent to Kijirō Nambu
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  226. more ironic is that Russian Empire used a whole bunch of Japanese rifles during WWI
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  227. a) it's heavy and quite unwieldy b) 7,62x25 has too much penetration
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  228. KP/-31 was only an inspiration. Inspiration to create cheap mass-produced SMG, which is completely opposite to KP/-31
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  229. nope, they don't pioneered universal mashinegun. Madsen was first universal machine gun. They are also don't pioneered assault rifle
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  230.  @bobthompson4319  > stg44 is credited as the first mass produced assault rifle. yep. First _mass produced_. There is nothing about "mass producing" in the word "pioneered" >kalashnikov can say the stg44 didn't inspire the AK but one look at both and a child can see how the stg44 was the inspiration for the AK Facepalm. Did you even LOOKED at disassembled AK and Stg44? AK was inspired by AS-44, created by Kalashnikov's teacher, Alexey Sudayev. I think, you can google, how AS-44 looked like. Google also Tokarev's AT-44, and find the resemblance with Stg44. Oh, kids on the internet these days...
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  231. How pronunciation nazi are called in Finland?
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  232. Nope. According to PPSh shhoting manual, effective range when firing long bursts is lesser, then when firing single shots and short bursts
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  233. probably it was an AKS-74U, not an SR-3
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  234. just check the recent videos from Ukraine in the comment section.
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  235. I can't paste anything in the youtube comments. It didn't work reliably, yes. Due to rushed development and production cycle PTRD has a lot of problems, and not all of them were worked out eventually. Faulty extraction and breech jams are among them
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  236. Nope, lol. It isn't extra. Degtyarov could just create rifle with manual operation and save himself from some headaches
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  237. nope
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  238. then what an MP5 is?
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  239. dominant hand
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  240. >and modernisation really stalled yep. And that's why Red Army adopted self-loading rifles as main armament, started developing T-34 prototypes and so on. Because modernisation really stalled
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  241. +Yu Xiang >Around 2 million AVS-36s and SVT-40s were made, compared to something like 18 million Mosin-Nagants under WWII  you comparing pre-war production with cheap rifles that were made to quickly fill the losses? Really? > but the actual development of the T-34 itself started in late 1938-1939 "A-20 tank prototype". Google it. >and the production of the T-34 only ramped up in 1941 after the Winter War with Finland and it is connected with supposed 'stalled modernization' how exactly? > I don't think claiming that the Great Purge really hurt the fighting ability of the Soviet Army is really that controversial in 2017. I think that pulling shitty conclusions out of your ass is still controversial in 2017
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  242. it weights over 6 pounds
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  243. Avtomat wasn't intended to be a 'squad level weapon', it was individual weapon of specialist troops. Like assault teams or cavalry
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  244. AFAIR, they all cycled manually
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  245. weight and recoil
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  246. close combat requirements, I think
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  247. never heard of that
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  248. Not 2004. 1993.
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  249. that scene setup looks so cool
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  250. There was a world trend to ditch rifle calibers less than 7,62. Even the Japanese switched from 6,5 mm to 7,7 mm
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  251. STEN was a cheap piece of crap. So no, not 'soviet STEN'
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  252. did you ever used PPSh in the real world?
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  253. it's look really similar to most of the early SMG's
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  254. slight hints of almost any self-loading rifle
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  255. yep, GPMG, rifle ammo
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  256. +Schmidt Rubin you mean RP-46. Bipod only, so, technically, still light machine gun
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  257. Juho Mäki-Petäjä don't make yourself an idiot, please
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  258. Juho Mäki-Petäjä obviously you making yourself an idiot when claiming that PPD and PPSh are copies of KP/31. Because they are, like, not the copies of KP/31, and any sensible man will see that in the blueprints
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  259. Juho Mäki-Petäjä facepalm. You, sir, in your ignorance, didn't look at MP-18 as the source for inspiration for PPD? And no, they can't be inspired by KP/31. Because they are, like, different. And you obviously didn't look into blueprints
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  260. Ian and Karl shoot finnish weapons in Finland.
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  261. There was no lefties in the Red Army
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  262. ROFLMAO. And why does PPSh-41 look like KP/-31 only superficially? >This was told in a museum here in Finland. in war museum in Finland was told, that PPSh-41 is a copy of KP/-31?
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  263. >but it really shows that soviet did copy KP31. as a matter of fact, no. It shows only that 'several blueprints of KP31 went missing, and also a finnish liutenant who was a guard went missing'. On the other hand, when you compare construction of PPSh-41 and KP/-31, you can clearly see, that they have very little in common
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  264. >but they still probably used the blueprints of KP31 facepalm. Look at PPSh-41. Look at KP/-31. Find similar parts. >Doesn't it feel fishy when a Finnish liutenant went missing with stolen blueprints, two years later soviet introduced PPSH41? nope. Because Finland didn't invent SMG as a weapon. And USSR had PPD-29, PPD-34, PPD-34/38 and PPD-40 before introduction of PPSh-41
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  265. Grammar KGB intensifies
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  266. Потому что ты говоришь Лондон, а не Ландон
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  267. AFAIR, there was no large problem with paper cartridges getting wet because they were greased
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  268. good points
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  269. Kopiovastaava >PPSH is a copy of the PPD Facepalm.
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  270. Kopiovastaava PPSh isn't a copy of PPD. Cheap, or expensive. Just look at disassembled PPD and disassembled PPSh
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  271. If you REALLY had seen disassembled PPSh and PPD, which I doubt, you should have noticed, that they have very few similar parts. And their bolts, receivers and return springs are significantly differ.
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  272. Then you should have noticed, that they have very few similar parts. And their bolts, receivers and return springs are significantly differ. And, therefore, PPSh isn't a ''cheap copy of PPD'. Or you don't seen any of them
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  273. AFAIR, there is a video on InRange
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  274. he did already
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  275. nope, this is not going to mess with algorithms. Same channel, same vids, only with added translation
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  276.  @Moped_Mike  ROFL.
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  277. I have no doubt. on that
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  278. lol, no. They ditched their 6.5mm in favor of 7.7mm
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  279. yep
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  280. you can't produce bazooka or panzerfaust like that
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  281. AFAIR, it was PTRS. Nope, my bad. PTRD it is
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  282. tomorrow came early today
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  283. Heavy as sin, I bet
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  284.  @keepow2  LOL
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  285. why?
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  286. +MrNewAbortion1 nope, it woudn't
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  287. I don't see any weapon-related research under his name.
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  288. Looks like nuclear reactor and firearm had a baby
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  289. define "worse" and "better" in relation to SMG's
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  290.  @TheFanatical1  it's cheaper
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  291. you bet
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  292.  @TheRevoltingMan  > tank commander recuperating from his wounds ROFL. Said 'tank commander' was a employee of NIPSVO, worked under such people as Alexey Sudayev and designed somewhat about 2 or 3 model of guns before AK. > a very faithful copy of a German gun Only a man, who didn't saw nor AK, nor StG with his own eyes, can say that You, sir, are a perfect example of an ignorant person
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  293.  @TheRevoltingMan  go read some books, will you
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  294. How controllable M2 compared to PPSh when firing bursts?
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  295. It was very expensive at the time.
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  296.  @TheGearhead222  we are talking about PPD-40 here
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  297. нет
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  298. Kurds do all sorts of the things. Optic sights included
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  299. never
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  300. Мазерленд же
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  301. если бы про пробитие броников задумывались, просто оставили бы АКС-74У на вооружении
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  302. But 7,92x33 is more powerful, than .30 carbine
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  303. East Germans called they variant of AK "machinenkarabiner" ;)
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  304. wood or bakelite. Initially only wood
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  305. >The purpose for the 2 round burst was to defeat body armor. nope. It was done to increase hit probability
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  306. He was Simonov's teacher.
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  307. everybody and their dog wanted to adopt automatic rifles ATT. But only USA and somewhat USSR actually could make it
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  308. kill claims, to be correct
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  309. Go to East Ukraine.
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  310. You can go to the other side.
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  311. it wasn't based on m/31
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  312. Juho Mäki-Petäjä stop writing bullshit. PPD have nothing in common with KP/31 except drum mag
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  313. +Michael Rex there are schemes on the internets
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  314. why do you think it's an improvement?
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  315. It's a simple projectile, you can't just shoot at tank in hope of hitting something critical
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  316. where did you get the idea that "Kalashnikov USA" is a branch of Kalashnikov Concern?
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  317. surprisingly, no. Modern AFV were designed to withstand autocannon shells, at least in frontal projection
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  318. not in USA
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  319. more like russian RPK. Oh, wait...
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  320. PTRD/PTRS accuracy doesn't allow such tricks
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  321. no thumbs broken so far
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  322. they didn't have enough M2?
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  323. BUT, BUT... IAN! Pom-poms were designed for infantry use! Boers used them. As for the size - they were not much bigger than so-called "trench guns" (or "trench cannons") of WW1
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  324. recoil
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  325. nope, you are not only one. And it's not reliable at all, because air compression varies depending on temperature
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  326. MP 40 isn't comparable to ''Sten gun' in any way. High quality, high price production.
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  327. А сам-то как думаешь, хехе. Это ж в музей гонять надо
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  328. Me little Armalite
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  329. product placement?
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  330. actually it isn't
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  331. How is KP/-31 related to PPSh-41? Do you even looked at blueprints?
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  332. +Nom Cognom what type of submachine gun in what conditions? Why PPSh-41 was inspired by 'Suomy' and not by it's direct predecessor, PPD-40?
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  333. > It inspired the PPD actually wat? Just, wat?
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  334. Bulgarian made AK's would be much cheaper
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  335. you could watch hickok45 or capandball. They have videos on PPSh-41 and alike
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  336. +Jonathan Borley it isn't 'forgotten' or 'misunderstood' weapon
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  337. not 'downsized AK'
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  338. and heavy as sin
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  339. it's not about lifting. it's about carrying around couple kilos of useless iron instead of ammo, food, etc.
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  340. >Do you measure the throat of the cartridge or the bullet? barrel diameter
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  341. what an unholy fuckness
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  342.  @509Gman  barrier penetration depends on bullet
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  343. +bilibiliism infantry guns had no influence on the war outcome. Especially as early as 1886, when infantry mostly was trained to charge with bayonets. With the artillery it's the other way around
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  344. Russia had plenty of complex expensive infantry guns. They just didn't to the mass production
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  345. LE-GEN-DA-RY
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  346. nope
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  347. nope, he didn't
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  348. $24800 are price for overseas transit :D
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  349. +FlymanMS you are wrong. PPSh is reasonably accurate up to 200meters
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  350. +ShyTentacle it's alternative ballistycs. Entirely not from our world
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  351. +FlymanMS PPSh-41 shooting manual sounds pretty solid to me
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  352. +FlymanMS it was in the requirements for development submashinegun to replace PPD. Do you think it wasn't tested? Or recommendations for shooting in the manual were taken from the air?
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  353. +FlymanMS it's shooting manual. Not some advertising. It contains recommendations how to hit various targets at said distances.
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  354. not on american soil
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  355. it's you. But they got some elements of AK
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  356. relax, man. Ты же говоришь Лондон, а не ЛАндан
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  357. "stolen and produced" ROFLMAO
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  358. What rifle is more complicated - this or G11?
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  359. Originally it was meant as a cheap substitute for a light machine gun
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  360. Hasan Michael Marstar also used brass bullets, not the original armor piercing BS-41 or BS-32
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  361. Uses intermediate cartridge. So, not successor, whole new weapon
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  362. no difference at all. USSR had million of self-loading rifles
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  363. +redneck96100 it wasn't "made better", i think
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  364. RIFLE IS FINE
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  365. looks like a Bergman MP-28, has the internals of a Bergman MP-28
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  366.  @saxandphone6440  remove the drum and you'll see
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  367. is not the production price we are paying, it's historical value and scarcity
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  368. yep. Quick-produced SMG, being accurate enough to hit man-sized target at 200 meters with short burst and looking in any way not like STEN - that i call a good engineering
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  369. > after the Soviets lost thousands of troops with their initial struggle with Finland Stalin had almost all of his command staff killed, and replaced it's something new not only to me, but, I think, to all people on the planet Earth
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  370. Jokakutihuti We are talking about 1939. Are you even from Finland since i know when Winter war started better than you do...
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  371. thing is, that during "great purge" "almost all command staff" wasn't killed
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  372. You could check a hickok45 video on PPSh-41. He fired in full-auto, by accident not wearing an ear protection
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  373. in a no way
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  374. Lolwut?
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  375. AK doesn't had the rollers, like G3 has, so no "fell back"
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  376. It's not enough to just hit the tank "anywhere". AP bullet can't do much harm.
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  377. roflmao
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  378. More Gun Free Man you had the option of captured soviet guns, who were a couple of kilos lighter
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  379. Nope. After all, brits win the war
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  380. Looks like if MAC-10 and Uzi had a baby
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