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  1. Was a 92g for four years, I can't even imagine the crazy hours i had. when i was last in the field (may of 2022), we had to get started at 3 oclock in the morning
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  2. Yeah on the military tradition the same thing about males can't have Facial hair (despite males in earlier times having beards) due to gas mask
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  3. basic was sleep before?
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  4. +killaddict12 I see that your opinion is never going to change, but that doesn't change the facts. The phone testimony was that Trayvon Martin asked George Zimmerman why was he following him. Words were exchanged that ended in Trayvon telling Zimmerman to get off of him. When the cops came, they saw Trayvon face down with his hands clutching his chest....with his hoodie already yanked off his head. His hoodie drawstring was yanked all the way out and the only possible way for that to have happened was if he was pulling away while being held onto. This is hard for you to do, but put two and two together and Zimmerman grabbed him. If you grab me and I tell you to let me go but you refuse (like Zimmerman refused to leave that police officer alone after that officer identified himself and warned Zimmerman to do Zimmerman jumped him anyway after telling him "fuck you!") you're really asking for trouble. Your opinion about Martin "not keeping his hands to himself" (after Zimmerman didn't) also doesn't change the fact that the autopsy said that the kid had not bruises, cuts, swelling or breaks to his hands knuckles or wrists. So he wasn't done too much fighting (never mind that Zimmerman had two superficial scratches on his bald head and one scratch to the tip of his nose), It looked more like they wrestled.
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  5. You're looking at only the field. Yeah you heat up food in the field because, well, it's the field. In garrison, in the dining facility, you will actually cook. I was a 92g for four years and worked in multiple dfacs.
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  6. In your early thirties you would be eligible for all branches except Marines (not too sure about coast guard) though as someone who joined army late id recommend air force for older people . With the weight thing, that should not be a problem as long as you can pass the tape test
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  7. Even if that were true, you would have to forgive someone for.beleiving the title, since Donald Trump did confuse his sexual assault victim for his own wife on camera, my ignorant dumbass wingnut. So Trump is still in worse shape than Biden is.
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  8. Robert E Lee Don't forget to honor Robert E Lee's wishes about the flag: "fold it up and put it away."
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  9.  @randallreads6268  the army is so much better than the air force because in the army you have to be deployed for quite a bit longer which means more time away from your family..... You have to go sit in the woods for weeks without a shower (on an actual deployment you would have access to a shower).... You might be stuck constantly in a motorpool instead of actually doing your MOS.....if you're enlisted and unmarried then you would have to stay in the barracks for potentially several years longer (air force can move out at rank of e4 whereas army,.in most cases, can't move out until rank of e6).... More pointless random formations....more mass punishments for things one person did that you had no idea of.... Etc. All this in addition to toxic leadership that all the branches would have. Yeah the air force is so much worse since it isn't "real military" right?
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  10. Not that many things about the military make sense
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  11. You do realize that the military going back to the revolutionary war, has always included as many people to serve of different backgrounds as possible right?
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  12. For some people this was all they could qualify for after infantry. For others, they went to another MOS AIT but didn't pass, and got forcibly reclassed to cook. Then there are a few who actually wanted to be cooks although they didn't realize how terrible it actually is
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  13. Wait... He was denied his gi bill? I don't believe that unless he was dishonorably discharged.
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  14. It's still a branch of the military. I'm sure even space force has yelling
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  15. do a better job of sarcasm
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  16. john Cummings Wonder when any Germans are going to see the Nazi flag as a symbol of being German?
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  17. Daniel Mulvaney "fold it up and put it away." - Robert E. Lee on what to do with the Confederate flag after the Civil War.
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  18. andy taylor The Confederate flag lovers here will probably say something ridiculous like "the people in Germany don't take pride in their heritage like we do!"
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  19. June28July Especially since DiMaio admitted on the stand that he hadn't conducted any experiments to test his claim. "very convincing" alright.
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  20. Zekhi Blue "fold it up and put it away." - Robert E. Lee on what to do with the Confederate flag after the Civil War.
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  21. RadicalRC Leave out how the parties did not have the platforms they have now until the 1970's. Most of today's conservative Republicans had parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc. who were the conservative Democrats of that time. Despicable racism without end.
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  22. Bobby Knight Heritage of hate.
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  23. was a 92g for four years. it was what it was but no way i could do it again. couldn't wait to reclass.
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  24. Nothing cool about this. The six months is for both basic and ait. Im sure the length of time you're referring to in Germany is for civilian training. In the u.s. civilian training is longer as well (though I don't know if culinary civilian school is as long as what you described in you Germany). Military training is shorter but on the downside is that it is much faster paced (which shouldn't be that much of an issue for cooks because cook is one of those jobs that would be really hard to fail ) and you have the military silliness with it and the army arguably has more ridiculousness than the air force and navy so.
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  25. Major Payne wouldn't count because it was about kids jrotc rather than boot camp/basic training
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  26. If you;re a sergeant at least plenty of times I've seen NCO's just chilling on their phones in the dining area instead of watching the lower enlisted in the kitchen Also if you are in admin you won't be busting tail for as much as the lower enlisted on shift actually in the kitchn.
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  27. The civilians when I went through reception (120th Ft Jackson) were worse than the civilians at MEPS
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  28. It is the field after all. It's supposed to suck as bad if not more than garrison dfac cooking. Being a cook in the field, when you aren't carrying boxes or setting up the trailers in the pouring rain, or having to get up at 0300, can be one of the very few things good about being a cook compared to other MOS in the Army, because you typically don't have to deal with the nonsense the other soldiers have to do in the woods, and you also get to bathe every few days (or at least you're supposed to). Of course had you known better, you would have joined the Air Force so you wouldn't have to go to the field in the first place.
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  29.  @lazycatt287  well see if he actually answers, but you should be good to go with at least a 60 (really even more with a 70). Yes the minimum is way lower (36) but since the Air Force is more selective than the Army (Army is largest branch with lowest standards), you'll want to score as high as possible to make yourself stand out more. If you can't get a hold of a AF recruiter thats in your area (since AF recruiters have a reputation of being harder to work with and moving slower than Army. Again AF is a smaller branch with higher standards), I would even suggest maybe going to the Army recruiter and having the Army recruiter set you up for the ASVAB and when you get a good score on it, then going to the Air Force recruiter with your score.
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  30. I'm army. Would definitely not find it offensive at all if you went air force instead of army. Lots of soldiers wish they had white listened and gone army. Work smarter not harder.
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  31. Because stereotypically not only do so many people who join the military and specifically the army come from the south, but since cook is such a "lowly" MOS, so many of the cooks you meet would be from the South stereotypically.
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  32. thank you for your service. I'm sure back then the military was even worse with the Marines being more psycho, the Army being more like how the Marines is today, and even the Air Force back then being more like how the Army is today. I can't imagine being in any branch of the military back then. I don't know how so many old timers back then did 20 years on active duty. I heard that with the classic old school BDU's (which I think look cooler than the modern day OCP's) that you not only had to shine the black colored boots, but some soldiers even had to do that in the field. And I heard back then you had to be in the field even longer, like 45 or so days at a time. I think the reason why we typically don't stay in the field for so long at a time today (the longest I've done were two three week long ones. That sucks enough ass dealing with your bosses 24/7 without being able to clean your butt), is supposedly because commanders don't want to pay family separation.
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  33. Obviously you are not a 92g. More likely than not, not only are you of another MOS, but you either have been married your entire time or you got married early on, and either didn't eat in the DFAC at all, or the last time you ate in the DFAC was so early in your time in that you just don't remember. Like so many other people, you seem to be basing what you're saying on what you've had in the field, not the DFAC. The field is the FIELD (the woods) so of course you can't do near as much cooking like in the DFAC. You're not the first to make the comment you made.
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  34. The head shaving for males only is supposed to be lice but only for males as if females don't get lice?
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  35.  @Mighty-Man  we don't know exactly the circumstances of the soldiers in the videos, but most likely a majority if not all of them indeed picked cook as their occasional specialty (their job) yes, although there are quite a few "soldier cooks " who tried another job but got failed out and were forced to be cooks, due to what is called "needs of the army" (wants of the army. Cook is a job that wants as many people as possible compared to a lot of other jobs). But again we don't know how many of the soldiers seen here picked the job from the beginning vs how many were forced into it from something else Cook is also a job that not too many people who went with it in the beginning actually had in mind to do. In my experience , a lot were lured into it by a bonus, or they scored too low on their asvab for better job options aside from infantry. This is most likely the reason why so many cooks in the military and the army especially tend to be from lower class backgrounds.
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  36.  @Mighty-Man  if someone in the army does pick another job and succeed in passing the training, when they reenlist, they can switch to another available job and that includes cook..... Although it would be headscratching to understand why would they want to switch to cook (I have met one person who did so).
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  37. it depends on how your unit is when you go to the field. The food is usually nasty but very often, 92G's do go out to the field with the non-92G's
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  38. don't blame you. the military and especially the army and marines are supposed to suck.
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  39. wow. how long has your middle brother been in so far (how much left does he have till 20 years)?
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  40.  @SergioBecerraII  I was in fort Campbell Kentucky myself from april 2018 to June 2022, so I would have gotten there as he was leaving.
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  41. i was a 92g (im sure back in your time it was known as 94 bravo. dfacs back then were known as mess halls also) for four years. it wasnt so terrible all the time but still im glad to be out that mos.
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  42. Decent workout when you are doing it on your own
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  43. @cainmathewson1857 obviously you've never served. first off, they don't "make u a cook" after "boot camp" (only the navy/marines have "boot camp". the army has basic training) unless you failed an AIT for another mos and they forcibly reclass you. Also, most people in the civilian world who haven't served aren't going to care or know what your mos was when you were in.
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  44.  @Coffee_n_Fitness  "who don’t even love our country are joining for stupid reasons or no reason at all" Dude, that's ALWAYS been the military. Hardly anybody joins the military JUST because "they love our country" Most people who join have some motive of trying to improve their lives in some way especially with some help financially (which is why a lot of people join out of poverty or near poverty, even though you don't get paid a lot in the military, it's still a guaranteed job if you were unable to find one before) and or college.
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  45. 4 year 92g here. you're definitely not wrong.
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  46. that's probably any mos ait
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  47. Oh yeah. First got to say about the shark attack is I can't believe how there are people in the comments section bitching about the shark attack going away and then they are pretending that the removal is supposedly making the army "soft". All the damn shark attack was was recruits running off the bus carrying bags then getting into their companies and platoons in formation while drill sergeants are yelling, then the drill sergeants have platoons make a circle around then and have them hold up called items in the air while the drills pretend not to see, then countdown from 10-1 super fast and have everyone do pushups while they yell and while civilians are taking pictures. THAT was the "shark attack" and by the time the trainees are moved inside to the bays, it is long forgotten about. One thing at the very beginning of day zero that lasted I think maybe an hour at the longest, is supposed to make you captain america super soldier for a ground infantry war according to the people bitching about its removal. Obviously the people bitching about its removal are just people who want to act like "back in my day" and mock younger generations.
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  48. But yeah on reception I agree that hardly anyone talks about just goddamned how awful it is. And I am sure I am definitely not the only one (joined october 2017 and I went to jackson) who had so much hype and asked so many questions about basic, but my recruiters did not say anything about nor did I think anything about reception. Later on in operational army I've talked to people about their reception experiences and some people said theirs only lasted three days, but I did not ask them where and when they did it. Mine lasted from Monday to Monday. Complete shock at how we had to "hurry up and wait" worse than even MEPS. How they had us standing around for literally several hours at a time doing nothing (Some of us, including myself had watches and kept track of time). And of course they played mind games with us by having a drill sergeant come outside, then glance at us, then walk right back inside leaving us out for another hour or longer. I can understand during the daytime when we are waiting on in processing, but I couldn't figure out why at night when we were done for the day, did we have to stand outside in the cold (in october at night it got chilly outside and we are in summer pt's) for several hours instead of just being allowed to go inside for rest . If you had to go to the bathroom you were out of luck and had to hold it. But there was one night where a guy in the back of the formation I was in (who had the same platoon as I did for basic and at the end of the cycle was actually given a coin by the lieutenant colonel grisham for answering all his questions correctly), just took his penis out and just pissed on the ground. Thankfully he got away with it because I can imagine what would have been done to us if the drills found out. Oh yeah and speaking of rest, we were not allowed to lay down until wednesday night. But during the day you would see people, and I did it too, just black out on their feet standing up. So stressful I saw several guys about ready to fight one another, and we had some of the more ghetto assholes picking up and throwing rocks at people and also squirting water from camelbacks during the several hours long formations we had. Then there were the chowtimes .... You already had an idea that you were not going to be able to eat leisurely like you could before, but I bet you didn't think you would only be allowed five minutes at most to eat. If you forced me to choose between doing the week of reception again vs doing the two plus months of basic again, I'd go with doing basic again. Short of having something bad happen to you or your family, reception IS one THE absolute worst things you can go through.
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  49. Ask people who actually went through the shark attack if they even remembered it.
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  50.  @ecclairmayo4153  this was the best thing about 92g ait. we ate what we made in the labs...and still also ate breakfast lunch and dinner in the dfac....and just about most (not all) of us including myself still passed our pt tests.
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  51. Yeah, youre joining the air force instead of the army. youd have a shorter basic training which means less crap from drill instructors, youd not have to deal with the craziness of trying to keep your locker clean while having all that infantry gear stuffed up in it, you wouldnt have to worry about breaking your body from ruck marches, and during beast week, youd actually get to wash your butt with a shower.
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  52. Saying you would only join because of a certain president is one of the craziest things you could say about joining.
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  53. "You already know if 13 fox doesn't pan out, I'm going for that 11 bravo baby! Hooah!" I see you don't care about being treated like a little kid all the time. That shit gets old really quick.
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  54.  @thomasn4565  way to minimize what I said dude. The point is your dumbass is going to get treated even more like a little child in INFANTry than you are in other parts of the army, which is already worse than other parts of the military as it is (except for the Marines)
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  55. Because major Payne is not a basic training/boot camp movie. It was about kids doing jrotc
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  56. Work smarter not harder
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  57. It was about a female trying to be a navy seal. Not a basic training boot camp movie. No drill instructor. So it wouldn't count
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  58. the thumbnail shows a female with a one star general rank and saluting?
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  59. times are just different today. If we had a modern day war, it would not be an open battle field like world war 2 or a jungle like vietnam. It would be in the desert or in a city and that's just boots on the ground when we would also have plenty of air strikes and even cyber attacks today. The military does not need to be exactly like it was generations ago.
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  60. That's because in AIT it's not really Army food. It's made by civilians and has a different production schedule
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  61. In my case, I had gotten kicked in the chin accidentally by a trainee in front of me climbing the wall before we started crawling, so I was seeing stars for a minute on top of being tired, and it took me a minute to realize what we were doing. I won't forget that.
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  62. it's military food. food is not supposed to be good in the military. especially in the army and marines. navy and especially air force might have better food.
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  63. I was a cook in the army for four years. the job wasn't all terrible all the time but overall the job definitely really sucked. it's not a good job in any way.
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  64. tell us more about "back in MY day with the old SLEEP Army"
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  65.  @bridgetdraper5146  I was bravo too, in early 2018. if you joined before that time, then you missed out on one of the most legendary sergeants, anne winter.
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  66.  @GigaChadDuPlessis  What you should pay attention to is the fact that absolutely nobody in any era of Army basic training (including Fort Benning OSUT) or marine boot camp, came out of it as captain america super soldier. That's why this is called BASIC TRAINING. Stop talking out of your ass.
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  67. You go to prison if you refuse to join when you are drafted. We haven't had a draft since Vietnam with Muhammad Ali.
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  68. you say that like it's the cushiest and best job.
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  69.  @Steve-jb8qy  I'm just now seeing your reply late. i'd like to know just what gave you the idea being a cook in the military is "cushy' that's batshit insane. I was a 92g for four years. We busted our asses off six and sometimes even seven days a week. Youre not only on your feet all day but youre also moving constantly at a super fast pace and you will be exhausted and your body will be in physical pain. if that's "cushy" to you then you have something wrong with you.
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  70. Brendan Street I saw a guy in my platoon in basic who was so happy he got M & M's in an MRE that when some of them spilled onto the nasty ground, he picked them up and ate them.
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  71.  @elevenb6967  I wouldn't be surprised if it might be true since the Marines has the reputation of being THE shittiest branch to be in.
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  72.  @seanpruitt3496  I really don't get why people dog other branches and take so much pride in how hard they got dicked in the butt during military basic training which is pretty much a prison sentence.
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  73. what you see during training and being a great job in the operational military are different things. I was a 92g and for the most part the ait was actually enjoyable (in school up till the field. the field sucked. also i'm not including the drill sergeant nonsense at the barracks), but I definitely can't say the same about operational.
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  74. ​ @GoArmy87 this is a common claim I read on the Internet especially on Reddit, that all cooks do is boil things in water I get the impression that the vast majority if not all of those who make these claims are either officers or higher ranking sergeants or people who are married. In other words, people who do not attend a dfac, and their only interactions with cooks are in the field. Obviously in the field yeah you will boil and reheat things because , well, it's the field (a big exception is grilling steaks). In the actual dining facility cooks will do a whole lot more than that. People like op are so blind that they can't figure that out
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  75. when i went on holiday block leave in the month of december we had to wear our uniforms to go home.
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  76. I was an active duty army cook for four years. don't be a cook in the military. just don't. if you insist on it then do it in national guard or reserves. if you still insist on being a military cook on active duty, I would advise you at the very least to consider doing air force "services" instead of army 92g. At least with air force cook, when you aren't cooking you'll be working in theaters, hotels, etc. (hence why it's called "services") With army 92g, when you aren't cooking, you'll be lifting tents and other crap in the motorpool in the rain/cold/heat. No need for the extra nonsense on top of a job that's already highly stressful. Please believe me.
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  77. how long were you in?
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  78. oh they do get smart with recruits since you are low life trash in their eyes. not just them but also the other civilians in reception too.
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  79. It is moee than that
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  80. Good you loved it I honestly don't know what so many people who join mos like infantry or even the army at all seriously expect when eating in the field. If you want to eat food that's not awful, then go air force.
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  81. Don't forget for a much longer time a out the barracks too. Air force let's their unmarried enlisted leave the barracks (dorms) at the rank of E4 (and apparently there are some cases of e3s being allowed to move out) while army and Marines in most cases won't let unmarried enlisted leave the barracks until e6. Something to think about in itself.
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  82. Dont want to have too much equality, I guess
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  83. ***** Quotes from the Confederate flag CREATORS:"slavery is a divine institution", "men are born neither free nor equal", " as a people we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race" Then there's the fact that the flag started gaining popularity as a public symbol in the 1940's as a conservative reactionary symbol to civil rights. So how is the Confederate flag NOT a symbol of racism?
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  84. ***** Not to mention that some of the most prominent Confederates themselves asked for the flag to gone. Robert E Lee himself told people to "fold it up and put it away". For the most part people listened (except for the state flag of Mississipi) for a very long time. Of course we know the flag really became popular starting in the 1940's as a conservative reactionary symbol to civil rights.
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  85. wolfmanrick Oh, shut up. Your post was nothing but a rambling mess. You're not Native American anyway.
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  86. Raw MiLk inc. You must not have read quotes from the creators of the flag.
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  87. Dave Jeffries "fold it up and put it away." - Robert E. Lee on what to do with the Confederate flag after the Civil War.
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  88. Todd Bates How can you not believe in racism while supporting the rebel flag, when 1) the creators of the rebel flag had racist intentions with it, and 2) those who revived the rebel flag and popularized it had racist intentions with it?
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  89. Todd Bates They don't even know that it's not even their "heritage"
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  90. Meyer Wolnek "fold it up and put it away." - Robert E. Lee on what to do with the Confederate flag after the Civil War.
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  91. peter richards "The Young Jerks" only exist in your wingnut mind.
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  92. Caleb Whittington False equivalency. Betsy Ross never said: "slavery is a divine institution", or "men are born neither free nor equal", or "as a people we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race".
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  93. bronyman1200 "if anything black people". Okay, so when black people were marching for civil rights, conservatives in the south revived the Confederate flag from obscurity to use as a rallying symbol against black people and civil rights. So you're blaming black people for the flag?
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  94. Paranormal Investigator Heritage of hate.
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  95. you have bad things happening in your life full of abuse and despair?
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  96. They won't let you join just because you are 31? This is the army you're talking about, not the Marines? It has to be more than that. I enlisted in the army at age 34, not that I recommend anyone enlisting in the military in your thirties, And if you do enlist, do it in the air force or maybe navy or coast guard instead of the army. But there has to be more to it with your problems of being accepted than just being 31. The age limit should still be at least 35. The only branch I'm aware of now that doesn't let people in their thirties enlist would be the Marines.
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  97.  @stickynotes3339  cool
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  98. it is a important job because as you said, everyone needs to eat regardless of the food quality. still though it arguably is one of the ten if not five worst mos to have in the military. i believe that while being a cook in the military would suck regardless of branch, i think that an air force cook probably has less suck to deal with compared to an army cook just because of the differences between the branches. i might be wrong, but i don't think most air force cooks would have to deal with quite the same level of extra grief dealing with the motorpool, the field and harder pt plus ruck marches that most army cooks have to deal with in addition to the dfac.
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  99. I don't know about the non-army branches, but in the army in the modern day the head cook is known as "dfac manager"
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  100. Mass punishments do make sense for basic training. But after basic training they are unnecessary. In the army and I'm sure also the marines you will see mass punishment in ait and to an extent even in operational, especially in infantry and other combat mos. Not so much the air force and navy, their mass punishments are pretty much done when they leave their basic /boot, according to navy and air force people I have worked with.
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  101.  @xrucz  ranger school yeah you would have to be in the army first.
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  102. because youre that much of a masochist, huh
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  103. why? all it was, was trainees holding up clothes and getting made to do push ups for 20 or maybe 30 minutes while civilians take pictures. You wouldn't even remember it thirty minutes later when the drill sergeants herd you inside the barracks bays. Trainees who came after it aren't missing anything.
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  104.  @navawtff  though trump ironically was said to have dodged the draft multiple times
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  105. Marines sure base their whole identity on three months of basic training....
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  106. Most of your comment was on point until the last sentence.
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  107. "Back in MY day"
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  108. why?
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  109. Being in one of the worst jobs in the army, which next to the marines is the worst branch of the military.
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  110. Omg, it's not even that serious. Calm down.yiu probably don't even remember your shark attack
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  111. probably because cook is one of the MOS (along with infantry and a few others) that require the lowest passing ASVAB score and will get you in the Army the fastest and easiest, and therefore appeals more to kids of lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
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  112. Is it that serious?
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  113. You must have been in a high school in North Korea somewhere.
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  114. I doubt you're telling the truth. If you are then you must have really messed up. I was in Ft Jackson from October 2017 to January 2018 and never saw or heard of such thing. We swept , mopped and buffed our bay floors. Nobody used a toothbrush.
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  115. You see civilian contractors cooking at tradoc post dfacs. For non tradoc you will see active duty military cooks there. And in the army because we go to the field (Marines too) you have to have army cooks in mobile trailers cooking for the field since You couldn't pay civilian contractors enough money to want to be out in the dirt away from their families for weeks on end without a shower and taking shits in filthy porter potties (army cooks are supposed to wash their asses every few days but it doesn't always work like it's supposed to)
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  116. " They don't want them around sharp objects" Stop playing. There are definitely knives in DFAC kitchens.
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  117. nice sarcasm
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  118. It's POTUS Biden. Fixed it for you. And trump didn't leave anyone behind despite the tough talk when he was a multitime draft dodger?
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  119. Just because it is normalized doesn't mean that it is officially accepted.
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  120.  @rangerjones5531  a large portion of people in this mos honestly couldn't qualify for much else in the army besides infantry and other combat and other quartermaster mos. and then as stated, there are also those people who could have qualified for more but were lured by the bonus (not realizing that there was a REASON for that bonus because the mos sucks and can't keep enough people that the army wants for the mos). i've also met people who rushed into this mos because it could get them into the army the fastest time. and these people scored high enough on the asvab that they would have qualified to join the air force or the navy instead of the army, but they were in such a desperate wanting to get away from home that they joined the army because the army has the biggest reputation of getting people shipped off in the fastest time compared to the other branches.....and cook seems to be one of the mos that a mos position is always open to get you shipped off the quickest. and i'm sure that for quite a few of these individuals, the aforementioned bonus was also a motivation for choosing the mos, not realizing how much more suck it has compared to so many other mos. there are some army cooks who really wanted to be army cooks (i still say that being a cook in the military sucks regardless of branch, but i think anyone who insist on being a military cook on active duty should consider the air force instead since apparently air force cooks don't have quite the same level of extra grief to deal with like ruck marches, the motorpool, the field, harder pt, etc. that army cooks have to deal with outside the dfac. apparently air force cooks are in gyms, lodges, etc. when not in dfac as their title says 'services"), but they're fewer in number compared to most other cooks who became cooks for the aforementioned reasons.
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  121. bullshit
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  122.  @BINIgnitOnTop  Yeah and not only that, but I think a lot of people would be shocked to see that Army soldiers (and I'm sure marines too) who are lower enlisted get treated much more like children compared to lower enlisted Navy and Air Force people. There's already the fact unmarried enlisted Air Force people are allowed to move out of the barracks when they reach the rank of E4 (and I've heard some cases even E3), vs Army unmarried enlisted who are forced to stay in the barracks until they reach E6 (in most cases). I've seen at joint training environments how Air Force and Navy trainees, while they still have to follow rules and just can't do absolutely whatever they want, are treated not only better, but as ADULTS compared to the Army trainees. For example The Army trainees are forced to stand around and wait for however long (an hour at times) for drill sergeants to show up and they have to be marched around everywhere like they're little CHILDREN If you just tell somebody who wants to jon the miltary " join the Air Force, they'll treat you better" in itself, they'll probably be like "so what? LOL" But if you tell them (in addition to the differences) not only how the Air Force/Navy are not only going to "treat you better," but they're also going to treat you more like a fucking ADULT as long as you act like an adult ......and how the Army is not only going to treat you like shit.... but also like you're a little fucking retarded special needs CHILD regardless of how you actually act that person might actually take it more seriously and give it some consideration instead of laughing it off and joining the Army anyway then bitch and complain/try to overcompensate by boasting how much more (literally) "bad ass" Army is when they really wish they had have listened and joined the "Chair Force" after seeing the differences you told them about.
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  123.  @BINIgnitOnTop  Thank you for sharing. It's always shocking about how different the branches are. I still have three more years left on my active Army contract and while I can't say for sure just yet, I'm seriously thinking about getting out the Army on active duty when my contract is up (I'll have eight years time in service by then) and going Air Force Reserves or Air Guard . I'm pretty tired of the military (at least full time) and want to go guard/reserves so I can still have some of the medical and education benefits, and I want Air Guard/Reserves instead of Army for the easier PT test because my knees and lower back are pretty worn down now. All that heavy running and those ruck marches plus jumping up and down and rolling on my back on concrete plus constant lifting tents in the motorpool haven't done me any good over the years .
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  124.  @PabloRodriguez-cl4ox  LOL. I'm army and I'll tell you to take your ass in the air force instead of the goddamned army if you can, and I'm definitely not the only soldier who'll tell you. Just about everyone is going to tell you that if you CAN join the "chair force" .... to take your ass in the Air Force. It's a no brainer at this point. There's so much more that's been put out online now that wasn't previously available or as emphasized about the differences. The only big advantage that we in the army have is that by being the biggest branch with the lowest standards, we will take people that the other branches won't take. We also will take people in faster although more likely thats for our shittier (in many cases literally) jobs like infantry or cook. Unless you are in some kind of desperate life and death situation where you feel you absolutely must leave home and join tomorrow, I'd tell your ass to just wait a few goddamned months and check out the air force first.
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  125.  @PabloRodriguez-cl4ox  if you need to get surgery and an eye surgery that might be a disqualification for any branch before you join if the recruiters/ people at MEPS find out about it. It would be different for someone who's already in if they needed such a surgery.
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  126.  @BINIgnitOnTop  definitely can't wait these next few years to see. Until then I'm saving up as much money as possible and using as much tuition assistance for my degree.
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  127. To laugh at. It looks ridiculous. I don't know why only the army has females wear a different hat, as silly as it looks, while the other branches have females wear the same hat
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  128. even if you dont always DO your MOS. so many soldiers in the army spend more time emptying and restocking connexes in the motorpool than they spend actually doing their mos. Soldiers in infantry and other combat jobs, in addition to the motor pool, spend so much more of their time picking up trash on the side of the road, painting rocks, and mowing lawns because they have really have nothing to do since the only time they would ever do their job would be if we were actually at war and the only time they would do anything else related to their job is when they're sitting in the woods (makes a lot of sense to train in the woods like Vietnam when our wars for the last several decades have been the DESERT of Afghanistan and Iraq, doesn't it?) for weeks or longer without washing their butts.
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  129. "170 that came on the bridge to my 140" ???
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  130. Oh yeah recruits are going to be so messed up if they don't have that one thing as soon as they get off the bus. Give me a break
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  131. ​ @bird6736 so nice you had to say it twice?
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  132.  @randallreads6268  I'm army but saying "avoid the air force because they aren't military" is crazy.
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  133. Yeah 20 minutes of holding up clothes and doing pushups for a photo op on Day zero sure has "softened the military"
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  134. You want what?
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  135.  @herbertube7627  no. You dont want this job in the military. I was an army cook for over four years. Pick another job. I would advise against the military period. If you do join the military, then I would recommend air force over the army. If you insist on being a cook in the military, I would strongly, strongly suggest, for a very long list of reasons, to do it in the air force. Do it in the air force instead of the army. Don't be a cook in the military, and if you insist on it, then don't do it in the army. Please ask. Please ask if you want elaboration. Please ask before you just jump into it and get fed a line of lies and exaggerations by a recruiter.
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  136.  @herbertube7627  "Golfery seems to me that you don't like the army' well I guess that's a lot of soldiers since you hear so many soldiers say "I should have joined the Air Force" 😀 Being a cook in the military is probably not going to give you the type of restaurant experience you might have in mind. But really, seriously, if you still want to be a cook in the military, please take some consideration into looking at Air Force "Services" instead of Army 92G. As an Air Force "Services" you probably are going to get more advanced culinary training and experience, much easier than so many Army 92G's would. You would probably also be able to transfer to a wider variety of things than an Army 92G too. Just take a look at it before just jumping into Army 92G. Also, please ask if you want any elaboration on Army 92G because as a 92G, I and others who actually have done it are going to tell you that there's A WHOLE LOT MORE than what you see in these videos that heavily sugarcoat it.......
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  137. No, they're not all fat and overweight.
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  138. people wind up as cooks in the military and especially the army for a variety of reasons. Probably only a small amount of cooks actually wanted to be cooks, and probably the majority of them actually were fooled into thinking it would actually help them become chefs. A large portion do 92g simply because they scored too low on the asvab and couldnt qualify for much else other than say infantry (which is just as bad if not worse). Some do it because they got lured by a nice bonus (not thinking that the bonus was there for a reason, because the army wants as many cooks as possible and the job sucks and can't keep as many cooks as the army wants). Others are in a desperate want to join as much as possible and cook typically is one of the jobs that can get you in the fastest. Then others failed out of the AIT of other MOS and got forcibly reclassed to 92g.
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  139. Obviously it would have been over quite a chunk of time. You see a picture of him in the modern day ocp and then you see him in the classic body.
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  140. in a real life war situation yes which is not common of course. in the field you would typically still have cooks cooking in trailers in addition to mre's
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  141. Air Force training is called basic military training (Army is basic combat training). It's not called "boot camp" lol I don't know why that was put in the title.
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  142. I had a first sergeant tell me and others in my company that it "doesn't do shit for you" Despite that, and the 10 promotion points as well as the badge you get to wear on uniform, I've always heard that it makes your record look good because it's supposedly such a prestigious school with only something like 20 thousand soldiers passing it.
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  143. obviously you're only speaking of your dad eating food in the woods (the "field") and not in the DFAC (which admittedly is also not great but not anywhere near as constipating as the crap you'd eat in the field)
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  144. in the field, yes. because cooks in the field can't be around the chemicals and cook. you can't shower and wash your clothes in the field. so it's fair. remember "their dirty dishes" are the other mos dirty dishes too.
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  145. Navy boot camp has classes???
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  146. Soo...you must have been in the army first, then joined the Marines. Because if you were in the Marines first and then switched to another Branch, you wouldn't have had to go through basic training again (unless I think you had a very long years lasting break in service). If you were in the army and decided to go marines, in other words, going from the second shittiest branch to the number one shittiest branch, I don't know what you were thinking
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  147. what approach.
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  148. they're still army and even the 'pogiest" mos you can think of likes to imagine itself as fighting on the front lines because,they are army instead of navy or air force.
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  149. So? You swim with gear, drill sergeants, excuse me, instructors scream and run around like idiots more, and you're a couple weeks longer and the extra time is indoctrination since the marines are a cult. Oh and the instructors are addressed as "sir" or "ma'am" and you say "aye aye" since you're owned by the navy. What did I miss?
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  150. definitely. he came in under a false impression that was not helped in anyway by his recruiter. Hopefully he is guard/reserve instead of active duty. because if he is active duty he will hate his life unless he gets lucky enough to be put in admin.
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  151. I was an active duty 92g for four years. I've never considered cook as a "beautiful mos" but it was a mix between "not so terrible" and "extremely terrible" in garrison dfac, and "not so terrible" and "extremely terrible" in the field.
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  152.  @asimhussain8716  When I have to go to the field I try to starve myself as much as possible. Not only does the food in the field, between what's "cooked" by the 92G AND the MRE's suck and have you constipated, but also you have to shit in those little filthy ass porter potties and you have to carry your weapon and IOTV with you while you are in the porter potties. Then of course you can't clean your butt because you can't bathe. Makes you wish you had have joined the Air Force instead so you wouldn't (in most cases) have to worry about being in the field in the first place.
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  153.  @asimhussain8716  And now when you do the ACFT, and you've just sprinted and had to do the plank (wish they could have kept the leg tuck as an alternate. It's so much easier to just do one to three leg tucks in ten seconds max than it is to hold your stomach in for a few minutes) you have to shit more by the time you have to do the 2 milie run. Yeah another reason to join the Air Force or Space Force or Coast Guard instead of the Army. A simpler and faster PT test. LOL
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  154. @HOCKEYRUNNER You said " I dont wanna join the air force please give me answers" * length of time in the barracks if you are enlisted and not married (only applies to enlsited since officers don't stay in barracks at all) (If you enlist and you stay unmarried, you have to be in the barracks in any branch of the military. But in the Air Force and Navy, you are guaranteed to be able to move out of the barracks (referred to as "dorms" in the AF) by the time you reach the rank of E4. In most (not all but most) cases in the Army (and Marines), as long as you stay unmarried you aren't guaranteed to be able to move out of the barracks until you reach the rank of E6, which can take several more years to reach. Now wouldn't you want to be able to stay in the barracks for several more years? Why would anybody want to be able to leave the barracks so early? The barracks are about discipline since you not only have to keep your room clean, but completely spotless. You also have a lot of rules to follow in the barracks, some of them get stricter as time goes by (there used to be a time years ago when it was not against policy to smoke in barrack, even if you were sharing a room with multiple other people, but now you can get into very serious trouble for smoking in a barracks room by yourself with the window open). Why would you want to deprive yourself of this discipline? You should join the Army. ________________________________ How PT is done Everybody in the military has to do PT. It's the military. But Army might be better because our PT program since around 2010 is called "PRT" (this is dependent on what type of MOS you have and what type of unit you are in. I've met soldiers who were in a medical MOS for example who actually would just go to the gym for PT) and in "PRT" we do the exact same exercises in the exact same order all the time in a drill and ceremony fashion . This is great because it allows sergeants leading PT to show that they are able to lead lower enlisted soldiers. It is also great because by doing the exact same exercises in the exact same order, it instills more discipline into soldiers. This is the military and this is the Army. You can not exercise how YOU want to, buddy (unless you are a senior sergeant or officer. Hell I've seen E6's and E5's weasel their way out of having to do morning PT). This is in stark contrast to the Navy or Air Force, where those folks actually do different things for PT. It lacks discipline and encourages free thinking. Hell, I've heard of Navy and Air Force people actually playing sports like basketball or volleyball for PT on Fridays. Where is the military discipline in that? Also for PT, we (again depending on your MOS and unit) do PT every weekday morning. Navy and Air Force units (depending on the unit though and job) might actually only have PT for 2 or 3 days a week instead of every weekday . Some places in the Navy and Air Force will even allow people to actually do PT on their own (which does happen in the Army too but much less so and only, again, depending on job and unit), which means that you might be able to just go to the gym and follow your own fitness and even bodybuilding programs that would be very difficult for most people in the Army to do (the E6 promotable I mentioned in another comment, was a "weatherman" and he told me he hadn't done organized PT in eight years and had been doing PT on his own for all that time. As long as he passed his PT tests, that was all anybody cared about). That might be a bad thing because without more regimented things like doing PT everyday and doing a certain type of PT ("PRT") everyday, that might lead to less discipline. Doing "PRT" everyday might lead to a lot of boredom, but it still keeps the discipline by following a strict regiment. You should join the Army. ____________________ The PT tests: The Army and Marines have toughest PT tests in the military (makes sense since the Army and Marines are largely about ground combat). But the Army is debuting a new arguable tougher PT test that is based on crossfit. Why would you not want to join the Army and miss out on doing something inspired by crossfit? You should join the Army.
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  155. @HOCKEYRUNNER You should join the army instead of the air force. Work harder (for no exta pay no extra benefits and no reason), not smarter. Take it from myself and other soldiers. Don't join the Air Force since the Air Force is actually going to treat you like an adult as well as better prepare you to take care of yourself and a family. Join the Army instead and get treated like a little kid with no skills for the future other than being homeless and leeching off of welfare for disability payments. Work harder, not smarter.
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  156. I wont say that. It is easily one of the 10 worst if not 5 worst. I was a 92G for four years. If I was forced to choose again, I'd still rather do it than 11B
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  157. Civilians aren't going to understand all that.
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  158. for the cooks. this is easily one of the ten if not five worst jobs in the military even though it is an important one (people have to eat even if the food is shitty). and I believe that while being a cook in the military sucks period, army cooks arguably have it even worse than air force cooks do because from my understanding, air force cooks don't have to do the field (if they do it at all) quite like army cooks have to do. air force cooks (and the air force in general) don't have to do the motorpool the same way (might be wrong, but i've read and have heard from several sources that they work in gyms and hotels when not cooking, as the title says 'services" vs army cooks who are stuck in the motorpool and field when not cooking in dfac). air force cooks (and air force in general) damn sure have easier pt (if they do pt at all. army cooks still more often than not have to do hard pt as well as ruck marches), an air force cooks who's an e4 doesn't have to worry about doing a barracks gi party right after doing a gi party in the dfac (because unmarried air force enlisted get to move out of the barracks aka 'dorms' when they reach e4 vs an unmarried army enlisted soldier who's not guaranteed to be able to move out the barracks until e6 in most cases) like an army cook would have to do, etc.
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  159. I think the navy (and possibly also marines since Marines are owned by navy and are basically navy's version of army) call it getting "beat" while army (don't know about air force) calls it getting "smoked"
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  160. major payne was jrotc, not a boot camp basic training movie
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  161. "sergeant." with the civilian instructors at AIT (who all used to be in the military) it is just 'mister" or "miss/mrs."
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  162. These are cooks not chefs
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  163. I don't recall rinsing the rice.
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  164. sorry trump lost. get over it.
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  165. I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, it IS highly misleading to label it "culinary specialist" and for sure there are some cooks who actually got suckered into the job thinking it would be just that (one cook I knew told me he insisted on being a cook, despite having a high ASVAB score, even though his recruiter tried to talk him out of it. He wound up being so frustrated that he just got out after one contract). But a very large portion, I'll say well over half, of cooks got into it because they couldn't qualify for much anything else other than infantry (which is also atrocious when you realize that lower enlisted infantry are treated as little kids still in basic training). Some cooks got into it because they felt they were in a desperate need to join as immediately as possible and cook was one of the only jobs that would get them shipped to basic in the fastest time. And a minority of cooks got into it because they tried to do another MOS but the training didn't workout for them, so they were forcibly reclassed to being a cook.
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  166. from the east to the west 👍
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  167. Not all of us who didn't go AF got bad scores. I went Army and my ASVAB AFQT was 88.
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  168.  @fmpairsoft9039  dude, I went army (though honestly had I known more about the differences I probably would have joined air force instead)... But with your score why the hell would you want a mos that you're not going to be doing your job, and instead you're going to be scrubbing toilets and mowing lawns and doing gate guard? Seriously? I can see an officer wanting to do peacetime infantry because since theyre officers they don't have to deal with all the bullshit lower enlisted are put through. But to enlist in peacetime infantry where you are put to doing menial tasks so much more than other mos because you have nothing to do (we aren't in any wars right now. It is peacetime) is beyond crazy especially with your score That's like somebody with a college degree who seriously wants to work as an unskilled day laborer. You're not the first one I've seen like that but still I'd think peacetime infantry over before doing it.
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  169.  @fmpairsoft9039  OK. Hope you get a good sergeant who will actually put in very quickly for you to do schools, so you don't spend so much of your time sitting in a motorpool all day or being a janitor like so many other 11bravos that I know who all thought they would be doing the same high speed stuff you mentioned but other things got in the way instead (politics and bad leadership who care way more about management and making themselves look good than they care about their subordinates) .
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  170.  @lazycatt287  You already took the ASVAB? Remember you're not obligated to anything until you actually swear in and ship out. If you do got to go Army though then hoah. Hope you get a decent MOS and not something that'll have you sweeping out connexes in a motorpool all day or mowing lawns.
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  171. what color's the sky in your dreams?
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  172. Major Payne was a rotc not an actual drill instructor
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  173.  @Real_Petty  major Payne was a comedy like forest Gump or stripes though i wouldn't consider it a parody of anything
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  174. "noting"?
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  175. No. If someone feels so broken down that they don't want to go through anymore then they can quit. The problem with that is, they will be stuck there longer (like months longer) and feel like even less of a human being. The easiest and quickest way to get through basic training is to just get through it and graduate it.
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  176. if you were really a 92golf you wouldnt say "everything you cook is from a bag!" because that isn't true.
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  177. Just take it as another screw up, since they're calling army basic "boot camp" and they called duffel bags "ruck sacks" at 7:10
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  178. should have got it checked out when you were in and got it documented
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  179. I was an active duty army cook for over four years. Yes in ait, the training wasn't so bad and at times truly was fun. That all goes to hell when you arrive to the operational army and cook in the dfac. When you hear or read people say that being a cook, regardless of how much you like to cook, is one of the worst jobs in the military, believe it.
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  180. LOl if you know that, then you must be a 92G.
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  181.  @EddieUtley  dang. how long did you do it? I've been doing it for over four years. I can't believe there are actually people who stayed in THIS MOS for 20 years. Although I'm sure out of those who do, probably most of them didn't spend their whole time doing DFAC (or mess hall as it would have been known then) the whole time. Damn this MOS.
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  182.  @EddieUtley  thanks for sharing. I talked to a lady who spent a few years (I can't remember how many) on active and then spent a long time on reserves (I think she said she finished out 20 years) as a cook. She said she was so tired of being a cook on the job, that she refused to do any cooking at home. Good to see you don't mind home cooking. I cook lazily (mostly baking) in the barracks room though that's not the same as at home.
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  183. major payne was a movie about kids junior ROTC and not a basic training/boot camp movie. The character major payne is a JROTC instructor and not a drill instructor (because an officer would not be one)
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  184. I don't know about air defense artillery but yeah there are plenty of ghetto ass soldiers in cook mos. For so many cooks, cook was one of the only jobs they qualified for on their asvab aside from infantry. You got plenty of cooks that really come from some bad backgrounds I've seen a lot of cooks, like more than ten, fail drug tests for example. One cook told me that he had recently broken into someones house off post. So yeah cook is definitely up there for most hood MOS.
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  185. work smarter not harder
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  186. this was probably taped a while ago and only released on youtube recently???
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  187. What kind of question are you asking? The first part, of course when you join you can ask for 92g mos And yeah if you fail another mos ait, you can be forcibly reclassed to 92g
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  188.  @Mighty-Man  So youre wondering about a civilian who wants to stay a civilian and work for the military as a cook without actually being in the military. Yes, I dont know how the process actually works (you would not actually go to an Army or another branch recruiter), but there are civilian contractors. As far as actually cooking, you might see them overseas in places like Germany and often they are spouses of US service members stationed there, and they might help soldier cooks cook as well as clean. In the states, you will have "KP" who just clean (like I said at the last part of the previous sentence) but not actually be involved in the cooking part at all since that is all done by soldier cooks. I have been told when I was in Poland and Romania that a US citizen could become a KBR contractor and work in a kitchen (but those who worked in kitchens were mostly nationals from Romania, both in Romania and Poland). So bottom line is yes, you could become a government employee and work in government food service without actually joining the military. You might not get free healthcare like the military people get, but at the same time you would not be treated like crap the same way (although the KP ladies do have politics among themselves, it's not quite the same thing as the military where lower enlisted soldiers are forced into mass punishments and other abuse)
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  189. i can't imagine how much that sucks. AIT sucks enough as it is because it's just a lighter basic training and Army AIT is even more restrictive, so I felt sorry for holdovers who had to stay while the rest of us in the cycle were able to leave when we were done. but I can't imagine how much more godawful it is now where everyone is just stuck like a maximum security prison now.
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  190. why
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  191. Just because it happens doesn't mean it's officially acceptable. That might sound funny to you but even R. Lee Ermy said in a documentary that even though he and his fellow drills physically assaulted people, they were not supposed to. As far as cussing goes, I'm sure most drills are not going to cuss at trainees around really higher ups/
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  192.  @Just4FC  where did you serve?
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  193.  @Just4FC  cool
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  194. The whole military is terrible enough regardless of branch. I tell anyone that if you insist on going into the military, at least try to give some consideration to then Air Force, Space Force or Coast Guard. Very cautious of the Navy, and definitely stay the hell away from both the Army and the Marine Corps, unless maybe, if you can become an officer . All of the branches pay the same money at the same rank, and all of the branches provide free healthcare . I don't know why so many people who want to join the military insist that it HAS to be either the Army or Marines. The extra nonsense that you go through in the Marines and Army ON TOP of the standard military toxicity and nonsense that all the branches put you through, don't give you any additional benefits (not counting the extra physical and emotional stress that might lead to a higher VA disability rating). It just DOESN'T One one hand, all the branches, including the Air Force/Space Force/Coast Guard, deal with things like toxic leadership and other problems..... however on the other hand, the Army and the Marines take the fuck fuck games to another extreme level of bullshit and nonsense for no reason, no extra benefits and no extra pay I'm sorry this man lost his hearing. I've gotten permanent bilateral hearing loss in the Army but to see someone getting 60% hearing loss is heartbraking.
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  195. A lot of reasons. First off, most people don't "get chosen" they sign up for it themselves. This is one of the most widely available jobs in the military with the lowest scores to qualify. Lots of kids coming into the Army especially don't really score high enough on the ASVAB to qualify for much anything else other than infantry or other quartermaster jobs like say fueler (I said "Army especially" because you would probably join the Navy or especially the Air Force instead if you could get a decently high score on the ASVAB). This counts for just about most Army cooks you'll see. Also, because this job is almost if not always available, it gets you shipped to basic training in the quickest time and so many people joining the military, especially the Army want to ship out and go to basic training in the fastest time they can (not always a great idea), so that's another thing that got a lot of people as cooks. I've met at least one cook who had a really high ASVAB score and could have qualified for most jobs and probably should have gone Air Force instead of Army, but he felt that he was in a desperate situation and wanted to get away from home as fast as possible, so he decided to go Army and be a cook (he got so frustrated with the Army and being a cook that he got out when his contract came up. I think he did four years). For those people who didn't initially sign up as cooks, they signed up for something else but washed out of the AIT for what they signed up for. Since cook MOS is one of the most available jobs and is considered one of the jobs that is "bottom of the barrel" they get forcibly reclassed as cooks for the length of time their contract would have been if they passed the AIT for the job they signed up for. Then like the guy with the associates degree, they signed up as cooks because they actually thought that they would be something like chefs, kind of like people that sign up for infantry tend to think they're going do be doing "cool bad ass call of duty stuff." They didn't know what they were getting into, and were probably warned but didn't listen. I've met cooks like that too. And there are those people who signed up for cook because it offered a good bonus to them, not realizing that the reason WHY there's a good bonus is because the job is so terrible and they want as many cooks as possible and the fact that so many cooks either reclass when they are able to or just get out the Army altogether.
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  196. Would you have felt better if most of the cooks were of another race? Would difference would it have really made?
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  197.  @mikealstott6033  you said most of the cooks were black then you said because they were black, they were "useless" ??? If the cooks were white, would that have meant they wouldn't have been useless? How?
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  198. God even eating mres for a few days would wreck your digestive system and have you constipated beyond hell. Cant imagine eating mres for a month straight
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  199. sarcasm
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  200. why?
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  201.  @B_radd  I think maybe it might be jealousy since more people in the air force overall do not have to deal with the same nonsense and ridiculousness that so many people in the army and marines do.
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  202.  @B_radd  I myself won't forget the first time I saw the differences up close. Before I was told by a couple of people "join the air force because they're nicer and treat you better". "Nicer and treat you better" was meaningless to me (as it is to so many other people). I did call an ad recruiter but I got disinterested when he told me about weight limit so I went with army instead (really because I knew the army had a tape test. I have a large neck so I can pass. Looking back I should have physically gone to air force recruiting office) I was in ait at fort Lee and we did joint training with the other branches. We army trainees after class were forced to stand in formations lasting like an hour or longer and wait for our NCOs to get us. Sometimes we'd get smoked when the NCOs showed up and saw how restless some of the trainees had gotten. We had trainees assigned to be platoon guides but they were not allowed to march us. We saw that the air force and navy trainees were allowed to be marched by their platoon guides IMMEDIATELY after they were done with class. They did not have to stand around and wait forever for their NCOs like the army trainees had to do. Even the instructors pointed that out and talked about it. That's something that even when I go back and look online now, I still don't see people talk about. Then I found out later one the detail about how so many air force people get to do their own pt (had an air force e6 on deployment tell me hed been in air force for 10 years and hadn't done organized pt in 8 years). Shorter deployments, less if any time in the field, actually do their job instead of the motorpool,. Less if any ta50 layouts,. Get to move out of the barracks at E4 instead of e6 like army soldiers and marines have to do, less if any ruck matches, etc. Nevermind their basic is shorter (iny basic we had gotten done with the forge like three weeks before graduation. So our last few weeks were spent doing nothing but weapons cleaning and getting smoked by drill sergeants because we had nothing else to do and the drill sergeants themselves were restless). Their reception apparently doesn't have them standing out in formations for several hours at a time like army recruits (I saw a an air force basic video where one guy said he had never had to stand up without moving for thirty minutes before. Thirty minutes?! In army reception we had to stand up without moving for well over three or four hours at a time!). They apparently don't do ruck marches in their basic. And I've heard that during their last graduation requirement ( beast week") they even sleep in tents (whereas we had to sleep on the ground) and they even have showers! I bet they even have cleaner toilets (our toilets on the forge were all literally filled up to the rims with feces). So yeah it's easy to see why soldiers and marines get jealous of air force and I'm sure while navy doesn't have it as good as air force, they still have it better than army and Marines too.
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  203.  @B_radd  personally the most physically difficult thing in army basic was the ruck marching. It was more the mental nonsense (mass punishments for something a drill sergeant got mad at somebody else about. Sometimes another trainee in my platoon, sometimes a trainee in another platoon could get the whole company smoked). The reception was something I thought was one of the most difficult things I had to do in my life with the sheer nonsense of having to stand out in the heat of the day and cold at night for hours and hours on end. .I wonder how reception is for marines (already know air force recruits don't have to be in formations for anywhere near that long. Don't think navy would have to do it that long either). Basic was the best time of my life that I would not want to do again though.
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  204.  @B_radd  it is what it is now but still there at times when I wish I could have joined air force instead. Just with being in the barracks. I don't have a girlfriend right now so unless I get a mail order bride I won't be moving out of the barracks anytime soon. Wish I could move out the barracks now as an E4 like air force (or at least when I make e5) instead of having to wait several more years to be an e6
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  205.  @B_radd  haven't seen anything about space force except for some video supposedly about basic which I couldn't tell was real or some kind of joke. As of army and promotions yes but I think that's because we are the biggest branch but I also think maybe some mos are "bigger" than others (the army may want a tens of thousands of people in one mos but only may want a total of a few thousand in another. So army may want as many people as possible to be infantry or cooks but may only want just a small handful of people as radiology specialist). And in some cases like infantry or cooks the job might suck so bad that so many people get out of them leaving more spots open for promotion. Then after all that you still got so much politics. I myself have been in for four years this month and way into my primary zone and my superiors have been dicking me around this year about sending me to the promotion board or basic leadership course. So it's taking me just as long to make it to e5 or longer as somebody in air force who came in the same time as I came in army (October 2017) anyway lol
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  206.  @B_radd  I heard a lot of people day that it is darn near impossible to get into AF as prior service and if you can get in, you are extremely limited for what AFSCs you can have and like the only ones available will be things like security forces. It's like active duty AF only wants a very time group of prior service people in, like prior service people from other branches safe damaged goods or something. But apparently it is not so difficult to get into AF guard/reserves as prior service. I know someone who was Army 68r (food inspector though she never did her job and was always in the motor pool like so many other soldiers) and now says she is in AF reserves in logistics (I guess that's 2G0X1). Im looking to stay on active duty in army for at least one more contract in another mos (I'm 92g currently) and then when I have more of my ducks in a row and am ready to get out I'll consider guard/reserve and especially AF version of guard/reserve if I am still able to qualify.
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  207.  @B_radd  you moved out as an E3 and that is unmarried, or you got married then got out? If you actually were not married and they let you out the barracks ( "dorms") as an unmarried E3 that it is even more mind blowing than being allowed out as an E4.... Like how?
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  208.  @B_radd  you mean go security forces then change my afsc? I don't know. I wouldn't want to be an no plus I heard that security forces goes to the field more often than other AFSCs do and Ivr had enough of the field being in the army already Cant wait to see how the future goes though
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  209.  @B_radd  thank you and you too
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  210. Major Payne was about kids JROTC, not basic training. So it wouldn't count
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  211. I think it is since we haven't been in major war (and needed more disposable bodies) since really Vietnam in order to have standards lowered for even the army (the branch with the lowest standards and yes I'm in army myself) to accept people without at least high school diploma or G.E.D. (with college credits),. Even for the lowest of army jobs like infantry or cook
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  212. Even if it's true that Russian basic training is "stronger" apparently that hasn't stopped Russia's attack on Ukraine from being the disaster that it has been with Russians having tens if not scores of thousands of troops getting killed in over a year.
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  213. that's how it is in the field.
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  214. YAWN
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  215. and?
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  216. It's supposed to be way easier as well as way shorter lol
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  217. Air force.doesnt need to have ground grunts who can deal with being treated like mindless little children and go forever without washing their asses. Air force is supposed to have technical minded adults who have some ability to think for themselves.
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  218. im sure for you, since you apparently retired and had to have been at the very minimum an e6 (more likely you were at least a e7), it's "best MOS in Army" but to anybody else, year right. I was a 92g for 4 years. I could not WAIT to reclass and get the heck out of 92g. It wasn't 100% completely terrible 100% all the time, but definitely this mos REALLY SUCKED.
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  219. 26 years? What rank were you?
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  220.  @SergioBecerraII  cool thanks for sharing. I wonder if he has a really cool mos that he went to Japan since I don't hear much about army going to Japan (mostly the other branches, the navy and air force)
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  221. 11:38 "that makes me think of kids" You do realize that lower enlisted people in the military are basically kids and treated as kids right? You also realize that the Army in particular takes treating lower enlisted people like small children to a further extreme than other branches of the military do (you see this in join training environments where the Army has to have a bunch of "accountability formations" and "battle buddies" and be marched around everywhere, whereas the Air Force doesn't have to deal with that nonsense like that). Yes, military, and especially the Army, are not grown adults. They are kids.
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  222. Not basic movie
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  223. The Russians plan must have worked too well since Russia has had more than forty thousand of their troops get killed in Ukraine over the past 15 months.
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  224. If true, and I'm sure it is verifiable, thats crazy how when a drill sergeant is on the trail for 2 or maybe 3 years and plus who'd really want to be involved with tradoc for that long?
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  225. Yes
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  226. so that means that if you could, you would go through this "softness'' now?
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  227. Its the field, genius
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  228. You really think fat people can all cook when so many of them eat so much processed food?
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  229. Not true. The Air Frorce indeed does, as all the military branches, have cooks. Air force cooks are called "services" The big difference between an Air Force cook aka "services" and an Army 92g is that an Army 92g has to deal with the Motorpool and the field when not cooking. An Air Force services, when they aren't in the dining facility cooking, might have to work in a gym or hotel. Trust me when I tell you that is not as terrible as having to be out in a rainstorm setting up a field trailer in the mud like an army cook would have to do, or an army cook out in a hit or cold motorpool emptying and repacking storage sheds over and over again. I am in the Army and I am a cook in the Army. Even though you are a chef, I would advise you to not be a cook in the military. However if you insist on it, I would advise you to at least look at the Air Force version of cook, aka "services" Do not look at Army 92g. Trust me, I am a 92g. An air force cook would still have it rough, but not nearly as terrible to the same degree as an army cook. Don't be an army cook if you insist on being a military cook. If you insist on being a military cook, do the air Force version. Just listen.
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  230. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In case you're not being sarcastic, I'd tell you that when you actually see what military cooks go through (and not these sugarcoated AIT videos), no, you would not want to be a cook in any branch of the military, and definitely not the Army. A cook in the Air Force would probably have the least shitty experience though.
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  231. Try again with air force before just jumping over to army
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  232. most service members don't retire. less than twenty percent do. so much happens that causes most service members not to stay that long. that's why they came out with the blended retirement system so people who don't make it can leave with some money.
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  233. they do but they want you to take them off so you can breathe in the gas
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  234. Stripes is mentioend. At 14:19 for example
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  235. The best part about the MOS really. I had a good time in the labs. The only time the training sucked for me was when we did the field stuff. I had heard that 92g was a terrible MOS, but when I was in training, I didn't think it was going to be nearly as terrible as I had heard. Of course that all changed when I did it for real in operational aka permanent party
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  236. Give me a break
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  237. what did he say that wasn't true?
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  238. ​ @mroblige1018 chair force sounds pretty good compared to army. Especially no formations, PT on you own, no field, get to move out the barracks at e4/e3 instead of e6/e5, etc
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  239. YAWN
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  240.  @rodgermurphy5721  thank god we have conservatives like multitime draft dodger donald trump, right?
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  241. you can go on pass with the coronovirus hysteria?
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  242. Ebrithil1 I can't speak for other branches, but in the Army, you are okay to join even if you are overweight as long as you can pass the "tape test" which favors a larger neck measurement in proportion to a smaller waist measurement.
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  243. Do you know if it is true that air force cooks, when not cooking in the dfac, are working in lodges making up beds or cleaning up gyms, like the title says 'services?" i wonder because when army cooks are not in the dfac, they are slaving away in the motorpool or field. plus we know for sure that army has rougher pt that army cooks also have to do compared to air force cooks, and i'm not sure that too many air force cooks have to do near the same amount of ruck marches (if they do ruck marches at all) compared to army. and i think it's pretty safe to say that when an air force cook who's an unmarried e4 is done with a gi party in the dfac, he probably doesn't also have to worry about a gi party at the barracks right afterwards because according to everyone, unmarried e4's in the air force are guaranteed to be allowed to move out the barracks, vs unmarried enlisted army who might be allowed to move out the barracks at e5 if the barracks are overcrowded, but isn't guaranteed to move out until e6. I'm just wondering the difference. i'm sure that being a cook in the military would suck regardless of branch, but i think, and i could be wrong, air force services sucks somewhat less than army 92g.
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  244. ​ @xyzxyz6406  dang. several people including my mom told me they want me to stay in the army on active duty for twenty years. so far i'm five years in and when my current contract is up in november 2025 i'll be at eight years. but i want to get out of active duty and go to air force reserves because apparently it's easier for prior service members of other branches to get into than air force active duty. i'm especially looking at the easier pt test because I'm currently 40 and my knees and lower back are in quite a bit of pain, and the army's new cross fit based pt test puts a whole lot of strain on you with the sprint drag carry plus several other events followed by the 2 mile run. i'll have a translatable to civilian job as a radiology specialist plus a bachelor's degree in criminal justice, so i'm just looking at air force reserves as a way to help some sort of retirement as well as the health insurance, since i think money shouldn't be a good reason to stay on active duty (i'm not married and i don't have any kids. not to say it'll never happen but i don't see when i ever will have any). but thanks for sharing your experience which goes with what i've heard so many people say, even though I've had several people in the army swear that the air force does exactly the same thing the army does, and my retention sergeant, when i told him i was considering getting out and going air force reserves before i reenlisted and changed my mos, told me 'the air force is not what you think it is. my sister's in the air force and she's in logistics and she does ruck marches' i think he was telling me to get me to stay in the army and not get out. i also want shorter deployments if i do deploy. from my understanding air force does six month deployments compared to the army which does a minimum of nine. that may only be a three month difference, but i've deployed before and spending nine months with no privacy in a tent for a few months and in a bay for the rest of the time looking at the same people and dealing with constant arguments and drama is something i don't want to do the exact same way again. i can deal with going to the field for a week but spending several weeks in the field with scant chances to clean myself (even as a cook. cooks are supposed to be allowed to shower at least every three or four days, but i've gone two weeks without bathing once and a week without bathing another time) is not something I want to deal with too many more times.
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  245. what name did you give it
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  246. the military doesn't have 'chefs' but if you were born to be miserable and hate your life, thats fine
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  247. Did you do any ruck marches? If so, how many ruck marches did you do, and for how many miles?
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  248. It's ridiculous that marines boot camp is so long. Army basic training might be the next longest (though I'm not completely sure if it is longer than navy. I think it is). We got done with our final training requirement three weeks before graduation and spent the remainder of our time cleaning the same weapons over and over again while the drill sergeants smoked the entire company for the flimsiest of reasons. Some of us mentioned how if we had have done sir force instead we wouldnt have had to deal with that extra nonsense for no reason.
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  249. I only know about the army, but on the swearing, he said it was not acceptable. That's not the same thing as saying it doesn't still happen. I bet even in the marines, you're not going to see a drill instructor cuss in front of officers or a sergeant major. Cussing is only for dealing with trainees when higher ups aren't around.
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  250. no argument there. i was a 92g for four years and like you said, some (not that many) fairly easy days and many very exhausting days both physically as well as emotionally. i couldn't wait to reclass.
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  251. You don't understand what your are talking about. Yeah in the field cook basically (except for things like steak) heat up stuff instead of making it.....because thats the field. In the dfac cooks do have to actually make stuff like spaghetti or yakisoba etc.
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  252. Thsts because you have to follow the armys rules.
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  253. Major Payne wouldn't count because it wasn't supposed to be a movie about basic training/boot camp, but instead kids' JROTC.
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  254. He definitely did, but he's not the only one. I've met a few other cooks in the Army who had the ASVAB GT scores (no word on what their AFQT's were. Say I myself have a 121 GT and my AFQT was 88) where they were most definitely "overqualified' and could have easily picked another MOS or even could have joined the Navy or Air Force instead of the Army but they joined Army and picked 92G for one reason or another. All of these people got so fed up that they just left the Army period when their time was up, instead of reclassing. One guy I knew had a 124 GT , but he told me he went with 92G (four year contract) because he was desperate to leave home very fast and 92G was one of the few things that would get him shipped out to basic the fastest time. He regretted his time in so much that he just ETS'ed despite the fact that he was promotable and had a daughter. Another guy had a 119 GT score and he got sucked in to picking 92G for the bonus money (I don't know how much his bonus.. He did his three years and split Then another dude told me he had a 123 GT. He told me his recruiter actually tried talking him out of picking 92G, but he said he insisted on doing it because he loves to cook and actually thought going with this MOS would help him become a chef (hey, the title is "culinary specialist" right?). Of course he left also when his three year contract came up. My stupid ass signed up for this when another MOS I tried to get fell through at MEPS, and this was one of the few MOS choices I had left because I was too close to the age limit (should have joined the Air Force). Then my ass got too greedy with the bonus (20 K for "quick ship" and 4 k for the MOS itself) and I signed for five years. I tried to reclass last year but I didn't pass so now I'm probably headed right back for another two years. All good but most likely I am getting out the Army too. And I won't get into how miserable some people are, who tried going for other MOS, but they didn't pass their AIT's so they got forcibly reclassed to this....and they have to do it for the same length of time their contract for their chosen MOS, would have been, which is six goddamned years.
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  255. Major Payne wouldn't count because it wasn't supposed to be a movie about basic training/boot camp, but instead kids' JROTC.
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  256. there actually are special forces army cooks and their dfacs tend to be better than regular army dfacs. they get more budget money and are probably on par with, or close enough to, air force dfacs.
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  257. Yeah the ones interviewed have vitiligo
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  258. guaranteed job at least
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  259. I don't know who Obiden is, but is he facing a gazillion indictments right now for among so many other things, mishandling documents and having pictures of classified documents at a toilet???
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  260. YAWN
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  261. infantry is pretty much just a continuation of basic training, so infantry training is supposed to be less chill
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  262.  @monkeysweeperguitar  In other words, a continuation of basic training, which is zero chill. What's your point?
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  263. a bit of both. I've spoken to one of my drill sergeants long after basic/ait and he was pretty chill even though he was terror when he was on the trail
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  264. You have to have "battle buddies" in initial entry training for the Army. This is the Army, it's not the Air Force where people are actually treated as adults. I was just at a training site recently and had been around Army, Air Force and Navy and I had Army soldiers in their late twenties and thirties actually complain to me that because they were Army, they were still forced to have a "battle buddy" come with them everywhere including the restroom even though they were grown adults. Meanwhile 18 year old kids in the Air Force and Navy were allowed to go to the shoppette by themselves... That's how the Army is.
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  265. Here's the thing, nobody else is messing with your gear....but you are eating food prepared by cooks. So a tradeoff is to help wash dishes in the field. Also keep in mind that you joined the army or Marines.....you should have joined the air force if you didn't want to do kp in the field. For anyone who is thinking about joining the military and doesn't want to do this shit: here's a tip, consider joining the air force instead of the army or marine corps since most air force people other than security forces don't do the field and there are probably very few air force people who've done field kp.
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  266. Damn. It is what it is now, but the first time I wish I had have joined the "chair force" was when I was in AIT. I was at Fort Lee and did joint training with the other branches. When class was done, we army trainees had to stand in formations and wait for our companies' sergeants to come get us. We had platoon guides, but all they were allowed to do was stand in front of formation and call us to parade rest, at ease,etc. We were not allowed to move and at times had to just wait there until the sergeants (now drill sergeants) came when THEY were ready to come get us. There'd be times when the platoons would get smoked when the sergeants saw how restless the trainees got because they were made to wait for so long (and especially if you had to use the latrine but couldnt). The Air Force and Navy trainees on the other hand were actually allowed to march back by their platoon guides IMMEDIATELY when they were done with class, without their NCO's. They did not have to stand around forever and wait like little children like we Army trainees had to do That was when I was like "maybe I should have listened and joined the Air Force instead of the Army). Then imagine my horror when I realized that unmarried enlisted people in the Air Force are allowed to move out of the barracks WAY SOONER than unmarried enlisted Army soldiers are allowed to (E4 in AF vs E6 in most cases in Army); they don't go to the field as much as we do nor do they stay as long; they not only have easier PT tests, but (though it depends on unit), they don't do PT sessions as much as we do (I love to work out but didn't realize how ridiculous and full of nonsense Army PT can be. I talked to an E6 in the AF when I was on deployment, and he told me he had been in AF for 10 years and claimed that out of all that time, he hadn't done organized group PT in EIGHT YEARS ), they get shorter deployments than we get (six months vs at least nine months with Army. Those extra few months of being in a tent or bay with the same people 24/7 will drive you insane), aside from Security Forces and a few other type jobs, most people in AF don't have to deal with TA50 all the time like Army does; they don't have to do the motor pool so much like so many soldiers do, etc. It is what it is, but yeah I wish I had have listened and joined Air Force instead of Army. Had I known all of what I know now about the differences (just with the AIT example, that's something I still haven't seen people mention online), I probably would have listened.
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  267.  @edgarretana8377  wow. In the dfac I do remember that we talked but softly and as quietly as possible. It wasn't quite as bad as it was at basic but we did have drill sergeants there standing and watching us eat and at times we were only allowed to eat for like ten minutes (I swear s couple of times we were only allowed to eat for five minutes like back in reception). One thing unique about dfac in ait vs basic/reception though: I never saw anybody get smoked in either reception or basic inside the dfac (only outside). In ait there were two occasions where I saw a drill sergeant make someone get down and do pushuos inside the dfac (the first time I don't know why and this involved someone not in my company, and the second time was when a trainee in my company had talked back to one of my company drill sergeants)
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  268.  @edgarretana8377   @Edgar Retana  are in on active duty I air force? Do you folks have "accountability formations" at six in the morning (usually. Sometimes it can be earlier) like we have in the army? Or do you have it where you just go report to your place of duty at the time you're supposed to (like 0830 or 0930)? I think (though this might depend on unit) that so many people in Air Force don't do formations quite like army does but I might be wrong. I asked that e6 I was talking about on deployment one time when one of our first sergeants ordered us into a formation in the afternoon if he was used to being in formations like this and he did tell me "no". I never asked him if he does early morning "accountability" formations like we do. I wish it could be where if you have to be somewhere at sat 0830 or 0900, that should be when you report and that should be your accountability right there and if you're not there at that time then something might be wrong. I hate having it where if you have to be somewhere at 0830 or 0900,. FIRST you got to show up in the cold a few hours earlier at 0600 and then stand and wait around for thirty minutes in the cold for a first sergeant to show up. I actually miss how we had it when covid first got big because instead of having to do early morning formations, we just sent text messages to our first line supervisors saying we are still alive and are not awol. Also have no love for random formations throughout the day or a formation at 1700 when you're tired and just want to call it a day and get out of uniform.
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  269. I went through so called "relaxing Jackson" in late 2017. Out of my 13 company drill sergeants only one did not cuss. Instead she would constantly say "doggone". Even our first sergeant cussed around us. So as late as 2017 cussing was still a thing even if it isn't supposed to be
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  270. that's because this is AIT in the video
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  271. Lots of stuff people don't know until after they join. lots of information you don't even see online now about the difference
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  272. That's how god awful terrible the Marines is, because the Army is pretty much the worst branch of the military after the Marines. The Marines are so terrible that to you people the Army looks like the Air Force.
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  273. give me a break. like the shark attack, one thing from the very beginning of basic that lasted around 30 minutes at the longest, turned you into captain america. give me a break.
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  274.  @MrRas1982  you probably completely forgot about it within the next hour like I and probably everybody else did
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  275. You must not be in the Army. We say "Hoah" not "Hoorah" like the Navy/Marines.
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  276. How can military food, even air force, be the "best food ever" ??? But yeah it shouldn't be surprising that air force food would be better than army or Marines food
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  277. Major Payne doesn't count because the main character Major Payne was not a drill instructor. He was JROTC. Not basic training/boot camp.
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  278.  @levigreene9451  I'm sorry, not facial.hsid but head hair ? While you're wearing helmet?
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  279. Darius Rucker?
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  280. Don't think BMT is easy because it's still military basic training. However I'm sure it's easier than the other branches' basic trainings... Just with the fact its shorter for one thing.
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  281. I know a guy who got dropped because he (for some reason) didnt have the short chain on his dog tags.
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  282. the movie was about jrotc, and not basic training/boot camp
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  283. At 10:35, he didn't say cussing wasn't a thing. He said it does happen, but it's not acceptable. I'm sure drill sergeants only cuss at trainees when it's just the trainees (i definitely remember not only my company's drill sergeants with the exception of one who would only say "doggone", but also my company first sergeant cussing). I doubt the drill sergeants would cuss in front of a big time sergeant major or lieutenant colonel checking things out.
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  284. obviously you havent served
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  285. yes, including bald guys. I guess even without hair you'd still have sweat to deal with dripping into food
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  286. Not everything in the military (even the air force or navy which are supposedly not as nonsensical as the army and Marines are) is supposed to make sense. I guess they think that females can't get lice because they are female or they think females have been using shampoo in their hair and therefore are immune.
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  287. Hardboiled eggs in the field?
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  288. Your dad must have had you at a late age, assuming youre less than 30 years old.
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  289. A drill sergeant reading this would probably tell you that if you need to be yelled at in every single interaction then you should not be in the military at all because you're a complete piece of shit....
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  290. Jumper Guy Like the fact that Zimmerman shot Trayvon on the grass lawn yards away from the pavement. Yep, "self-defense"
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  291. no.......
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  292. very funny
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  293. you don't even know what you're talking about.
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  294. Too bad just for fun he didn't address the trainees going to a strip club
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  295. Yes, we can wear black socks in our acu's
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  296. YAWN
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  297. ​ @SorrowAvenue you said "what happened to the army our grandparents fought in?". We don't have Korea and world war 2 anymore.
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  298. Give me a break.
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  299. Officer and gentleman was navy though
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  300. I don't know so many people are bemoaning the loss of the shark attack. I'm sure everybody who has done it, put it behind them within the first hour after they got into their bays. ..you got these idiots in the comments section acting like the world's going to come to an end without the shark attack. Not one person who went though the shark attack (which lasted what, 30 minutes maybe?) ever went "yay! I'm captain America now... because i went though the SHARK ATTACK!"
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  301.  @ARMY21tango  because you smoke trainees the first time you meet them and you dressed in ASU'S instead of ACU
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  302. I doubt he was on the trail for all of that time. He probably just did the trail for 2 or 3 years, then afterwards had some special assignment training sergeants to become drill sergeants.
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  303. agree. and you hear the word "love' in the background too as she's smiling, which fits. I was a 92g for four years and we did have some cute girls (usually small tiny girls. the taller bigger females were not so cute) like her as 92g's. pretty much all of them when in the dfac were put in admin. they never actually cooked in the dfac (in the field, yes, but not the dfac) or served, though a few might at some point be in baking. I wouldn't be surprised that if that young lady is active duty, her dfac would have her in admin too instead of actually being on shift cooking.
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  304.  @Kane.lovesme  I may have had a few tall female cooks I met that I would smash, but more of the taller female cooks I met looked closer to dudes than not.
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  305. He was on the committee so it wouldn't have been him by himself. but still Is it really that serious that the shark attack is gone? I went through Jackson in October 2017. I had forgotten about my shark attack when they moved us up into the bays and put even more fear into us than with the shark attack we just went though outside. Even if the shark attack is gone, I would imagine recruits now would still face the same terror right afterwards. So is it really THAT big of a deal that the shark attack is gone?
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  306. you mean "disrespected" instead of "disrespectful" right?
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  307. When I climbed the wall, a trainee in front of me who was going over the wall accidentally kicked me in the chin and I was dazed while crawling. I had a drill sergeant who was laying there cussing me out because I was apparently the slowest one crawling because I was knocked silly.
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  308. But it wouldn't be the military and especially the army if soldiers weren't treated so badly
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  309. Yawn
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  310. Yeah the shark attack, where you run off the bus and get into a circle and hold up clothes while drill sergeants count, all lasting at the longest an hour at the very beginning of day zero and something you're going to forget about as soon as you go inside, is supposed to turn everyone into captain america super soldier for service and war, right.
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  311. why not?
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  312. No tv show
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  313. yes, including the army which is the most physical branch after only the marines. soldiers at higher ranks do seem to get away with it easier though
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  314. Reception. You couldn't pay me to go through reception again. I remember seeing guys pass out while standing. I'm sure I did it too.
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  315. Yeah.....because they had to go through basic training and yeah as cooks they'll still go to the range because they are still soldiers
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  316. Major Payne wouldn't count as a basic training boot camp movie. It was about kids JROTC rather than basic training boot camp.
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  317. When was cook in any branch of the military ever been contracted out??? Yeah on deployments you would see civilians cooking in dining facilities and on traffic bases, but most regular dfaca/mess halls/chow halls have to the of my knowledge always had military service members cooking.
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  318. you say that like the military has ever had nutritious food
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  319. "back in MY day!'
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  320. its one of the lowest jobs in the military. so of course not. you're going to get more people from lower class backgrounds in military cooks. so more cooks are going to be black, with the next being hispanics and lower class whites along with whites who tried to get in better mos but failed the AITs and got forcibly reclassed to cook. i've only met maybe three Asian cooks.
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  321. we stayed up straight for 72 hours when I first got to reception
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  322. well go back to sleep then
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  323. you choose it. some people choose another mos but fail the ait and get reclassed to cook.
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  324. blancos are better right?
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  325. Not true.
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  326. except this job doesn't translate to anything other than a line cook in a restaurant.
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  327. Did he get some type of disability pay for it?
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  328.  @angelamartzen7499  sorry about that
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  329. Honestly don't see what difference it would make because army drill sergeants would still be drill sergeants to the trainees over the course of the cycle and especially still be harsh to the trainees thoughout red phase.
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  330. In BASIC TRAINING/AIT??? LMAO
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  331. I don't know about Heartbreak Ridge, but Major Payne wouldn't count because it wasn't supposed to be a movie about basic training/boot camp, but instead kids' JROTC.
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  332. There too. I'm from Florida
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  333. thank you. i was a 92g for four years and couldnt wait to reclass, but thank you.
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  334. major payne was not a drill sergeant (drill instructor as it would be called in marines) but jrotc officer. the movie was about jrotc, and not basic training/boot camp
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  335. I can't say why there are disproportionate minorities, it might probably be that way because 92G is one of those MOS that require a lower score to get into.
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  336. they are still army soldiers, so that means having to spend time sweating/freezing in the motorpool doing tent layouts on storage sheds as opposed to an air force cook who works in a gym when not cooking. also they still have to make sure they are able to pass pt tests and deal with military army nonsense from their companies like room inspections
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  337. bravo or tango company?
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  338. arguably i think being a cook in the air force, called "services" would not suck as terribly as an army cook. you said when your buddy wasn't cooking in a dfac, he was in a lodging gym. that does not sound near as terrible as an army cook not in a dfac, where he is filthy in the field or sweating his balls off in a motorpool doing mechanics work and/or storage shed layouts all day.
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  339. i joined at 34 myself in the army. i'm 40 now and still on active duty. good luck to you but hopefully you're going in guard/reserve instead of active duty. i'd personally advise anyone 30 and over who are considering enlisting to join air force if they are going to do active duty. being in the barracks sucks more when youre older and in the army if we're not married we aren't guaranteed to move out the barracks until we're e6 as opposed to air force who are allowed to move out at e4.
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  340.  @Penelope2024  really don't know how long it can take for the age waivers but hopefully not too long. If by chance it doesn't work out (I think it should) then at least try air force (arguably better deal overall. the army will treat you more like a kid) reserve or guard since I'm sure their age limit is still 39 . You might have to wait a few months but I don't think it's that big of a deal since it is national guard rather than active duty where you'd have to spend that much more time being pushed around by sergeants way way younger than you and making you wish more you had have joined back then so you could be at least an E6 if not E7 or E8 by your age.
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  341. I joined over seven years ago. I still remember the names of all 13 of the drills (one left and was replaced, so that's why it was 13 instead of 12) in my company and have personal memories from each of them.
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  342. What is your VA rating? You must have 100%. Can you say some of the things you had that got your that rating?
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  343.  @theimmortal4718  thanks for sharing. I was wondering so I can have an idea of what I might be able to get when I get out. Documented I have adjustment disorder with anxiety and depressed mood, sleep apnea (and I have a cpap machine), insomnia, lower urinary tract symptoms, bilateral permanent hearing loss and tinnitus, back and knee pain, rhinitis, irritable bowel syndrome, and a second degree burnscar. I'm hoping to get at least a 70%
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  344. yeah the food sucks but at the same time you have to realize and keep in mind that it's supposed to suck it's the military. even the air force is not supposed to have the best food, but the food is supposed to suck even more in the army and marines moreso than the other branches because the mission of the army and marines is still ground infantry even if most people in both branches are not infantry. the army and marines are supposed to have the lowest quality of life, therefore they are supposed to have the nastiest food.
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  345. YAWN
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  346. " Glad I'm out, I won't be letting my kids join either" LOL is that supposed to be a bad thing? The military and especially the Army (and I'm sure also the Marines, not quite so much in the Navy and Air Force as with the Marines and Army) has enough right wing rednecks in it. Are we missing anything that a right wing redneck like you won't let your kids, who will probably be right wing rednecks just like you, join? LOL
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  347. '"And what did you do in the army?"" nobody other than maybe a retired former army veteran of a fairly high rank, is going to give enough of a damn to ask anybody like that ""And what did you do in the army?"
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  348. YAWN
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  349. What kind of MOS and what kind of unit did you have in the army where you only went to the field "for days" instead of WEEKS? Seriously. It sounds like you actually had it better compared to a lot of forscom army. .so much of the rest of the army goes to the field for weeks at a time rather than just a few days.
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  350. "oh back in MY day!" Give me a break. I started basic in October 2017 and had the shark attack and....guess what.... while I can recall pieces of the shark attack even now, over five and a half years later (like drill sergeants counting down from 10 to 1 for us to hold up this or that piece of gear, then smoking us anyway even though we were all holding it up before the countdown ended.), I had pretty much forgotten about the shark attack within that hour when the drill sergeants were smoking us in the bays after we got inside for the first time. So what would recruits today really be missing by not having to do shark attack again?
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  351. Levi Stephens How is the Army "to easy" on people? Army basic training is the most physically difficult after the Marines. In AIT, Army soldiers have even more restrictions placed on them than people of other branches. Unmarried enlisted enlisted soldiers in the barracks have to stay in the barracks for much longer (quite a few more years longer) than unmarried enlisted people in the Air Force and probably also the Navy do. A whole lot of other physical (hell I've had Marines tell me they didn't do as hard ruck marching as Army) and emotional things the Army puts most of its people through that is worse than most people of other branches have to do. So how is the Army "to easy on people?"
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  352. I joined army in 2017. We did the duck walk then too
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  353. I do think the classic old school cammys aka the bdu look better than the modern day ocp
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  354. Example?
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  355. good question.
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  356. The money comes out of your paycheck anyway.
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  357. Tell that to one.
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  358.  @JohnCooper-k5z  that's the army and Marines for you. I doubt air force does things quite as ridiculous
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  359. I dare you to say that in person to someone serving
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  360. yeah
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  361. they are in lots of cities and towns.
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  362.  @MCsAdvice  I'm army but why the hell would it even matter if you went through the toughest or least difficult basic training? It's basic training.
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  363. I'm sure you would have to have mental issues as a drill sergeant. Especially for the mass punishments.
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  364. ???
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  365. What MOS did you have for THAT long of an AIT?
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  366. wow. another reason to not join the marines period because you'd only get an mre if you are in the field. i did not know that before. but for marine cooks, apparently they don't have to also split their time in the motorpool like an army cook would. undoubtedly, being a cook in the military would suck regardless of what branch, but arguably i believe air force cooks probably have the least suck to deal with compared to an army cook.
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  367. do what?
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  368. Go back to sleep.
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  369. just because
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  370. Except that's no longer a thing. Supposedly that did happen but generations ago where a felon could join. I assume during times of war they would take more people and be more relaxed on recruiting standards. Nowadays it's hard to join with just a misdemeanor
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  371. yes. its basic training so its not supposed to make sense
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  372. good for you that youre in an even worse mos than cook. maybe your butt needs to be constipated in the field
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  373. He was probably in tradoc as some kind of drill sergeant "instructor" (teaching those becoming drill sergeants) instead of being on the trail for all of that time. But even then, 11 years is a super long time.
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  374. then you hold it in you big eared turd
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  375. "back in MY day"
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  376. i wonder how long ago that was because when i was in ait in early 2018 we definitely had cook trainees from navy and air force at fort lee, va.. you must have been in a long time ago to have had your "tech school" (what we in the army call "AIT") at somewhere other than fort lee, va. Also, did you cook your whole time in, or were there moments you were out of the dfac, and if there were, what did you do?
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  377. but sleep does?
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  378. No. What you're seeing is how it's done in the field. Of course in the field you can't do that much actual cooking (though you will see grilling steaks), because after all it is the field. In the DFAC you will see actual cooking.
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  379. It is what it is now, but the first time I wish I had have joined the "chair force" was when I was in AIT. I was at Fort Lee and did joint training with the other branches. When class was done, we army trainees had to stand in formations and wait for our companies' sergeants to come get us. We had platoon guides, but all they were allowed to do was stand in front of formation and call us to parade rest, at ease,etc. We were not allowed to move and at times had to just wait there until the sergeants (now drill sergeants) came when THEY were ready to come get us. There'd be times when the platoons would get smoked when the sergeants saw how restless the trainees got because they were made to wait for so long (and especially if you had to use the latrine but couldnt). The Air Force and Navy trainees on the other hand were actually allowed to march back by their platoon guides IMMEDIATELY when they were done with class, without their NCO's. They did not have to stand around forever and wait like little children like we Army trainees had to do That was when I was like "maybe I should have listened and joined the Air Force instead of the Army). Then imagine my horror when I realized that unmarried enlisted people in the Air Force are allowed to move out of the barracks WAY SOONER than unmarried enlisted Army soldiers are allowed to (E4 in AF vs E6 in most cases in Army); they don't go to the field as much as we do nor do they stay as long; they not only have easier PT tests, but (though it depends on unit), they don't do PT sessions as much as we do (I love to work out but didn't realize how ridiculous and full of nonsense Army PT can be. I talked to an E6 in the AF when I was on deployment, and he told me he had been in AF for 10 years and claimed that out of all that time, he hadn't done organized group PT in EIGHT YEARS ), they get shorter deployments than we get (six months vs at least nine months with Army. Those extra few months of being in a tent or bay with the same people 24/7 will drive you insane), aside from Security Forces and a few other type jobs, most people in AF don't have to deal with TA50 all the time like Army does; they don't have to do the motor pool so much like so many soldiers do, they dont do ruck marches like soldiers, etc. It is what it is, but yeah I wish I had have listened and joined Air Force instead of Army. Had I known all of what I know now about the differences (just with the AIT example, that's something I still haven't seen people mention online), I probably would have listened.
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  380. even just with basic. basic is really just prison. the fact that their basic is like the shortest makes me wish I had joined . In army basic we spent our last few weeks doing nothing but weapons cleaning since we already had our last graduation requirement (the forge) weeks earlier. And speaking of the forge, I've heard from that Angry Cops video that Air Force doesn't do a 12 mile ruck march (which we were made to do PT when we were done rucking. then we got smoked with low crawls in the mud, then we had to do more and more and more ruck marching), and they actually got to wash their asses since they have showers????? And they get to sleep in tents whereas we sleep on the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if they have access to cleaner latrines. We had porter potties where the toilets were literally filled up to the rims with shit. So many of us just shat and pissed behind trees at night instead of using those porter potties.
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  381. go back to sleep then.
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  382. No. Cooking for officers exclusively would be further advanced culinary training later on after they get to their unit, if they want to and are allowed to. In the kitchen classroom you see here, they just learn how to "cook" period
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  383. yeah?
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  384. They might get reclassed to infantry since those are some of the bottom of the barrel jobs in the army. Or they might just get kicked out. I don't know for sure.
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  385. How long did you do it? And when you say you are getting out of the mos, does that mean you are getting out of the army, or does it mean you reclassed (and can you say to what)?
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  386. how can fort lee be "fort never leave" when someone training to be a cook is only there for like two months? hell when i was doing army 92g training, while we had joint training (not in the same classes) with other branches, when it came time for the field training, it was only us there. not only did we not see any air force or navy....we didn't even see any marine cook trainees!
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  387. Obviously you've never been a 92g or else you wouldn't be saying something untrue like that. Don't make false claims on something you have never done yourself. You don't know what you're talking about
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  388. where
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  389. It really depends. Certainly people like married soldiers or sergeants whose only interaction with cooks is in the field because they don't eat at the dfac talk a lot of trash about cooks from my experience especially the fact we use powdered eggs in the field. I mean what do you expect? You joined the army. You should have joined the air force if you didn't want to be in the woods for weeks without a shower and eating dehydrated eggs as the alternative to MREs
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  390. Aerosol!
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  391. seriously there are 11B's who are glad they aren't 92G and vice versa
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  392. I don't know why the GIs would complain about the food from an air force dfac when they know that the food from an army dfac would at best be no better and more likely than not would be worse.
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  393. true but that's how they want it.
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  394. ' Those Containerized Kitchens are a CHORE to put together.' that's an understatement. just in the field in may 2022 for 21 days in a ck. we had to deal with packing this damn thing up and then jumping to another site and then opening the ck up.....in the mud (because the idiot officers in charge swore it was a great idea to jump to that site) in the pouring frickin rain. I was a 92g for four goddamned years. it wasnt' 100% all terrible 100% all the time, but just about most of the time it was miserable.
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  395. yawn
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  396. If you do join the military. I can't tell you what to do, but please think long and hard about being a cook in the military. If you insist on being a cook in the military then I would suggest to at least do it in Air Force Reserves because that would be the least amount of pure bullshit you would have to deal with. If you insist on being a cook on active duty, at least do it in the Air Force instead of the Army. I was a cook in the Army on active duty for four years. This MOS was not 100% completely terrible all the time, but this MOS isn't worth it. It's not worth it.
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  397. You're just bitching just to be bitching.
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  398. and?
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  399. how long have you been in? i was a 92g for four years and went to the field six times, which is less than a lot of other 92g's i know. but we do at times go to the field in our containerized kitchens or mobile kitchen trailers, which on more than one occasion, i've had to help set up or break down in the pouring rain.
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  400. you don't eat well in the military though, especially in the marines and army.
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  401.  @Ihavpickle  army
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  402. thats right
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  403. I would advise you to reconsider it.
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  404.  @Anon-te2bz  Work smarter, not harder.
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  405. christopher c As Anon said, all branches (I believe even Coast Guard) have gas chamber at their basic training/boot camp. The gas chamber really isn't THAT TERRIBLE . The effects wear off after a few minutes and if you are sick like I was then you might not feel much of anything. So you would still have to do this in Air Force basic. That said, as a soldier in the Army, I am definitely not mad at you for wanting to work smarter, not harder and go Air Force instead of Army. I would have joined the Air Force instead of the Army myself had I known the information about the differences between the branches that I know now. Not everyone in the Army has it bad, and not everyone in the Army has good. Still, it's pretty safe to say that the average person in the Air Force who is not in Air Force's security forces (AF version of MP) or the AF's version of infantry/special forces, or maintenance/mechanics, does NOT have it as bad as the average soldier in the Army who isn't in the medical field or a handful of other jobs. For the most part, we the Army are about "hard, work work" while most of the Air Force is "work smarter, not harder" Good luck.
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  406. Drill instructor, not drill sergeant.
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  407. It wouldn't count. It wasn't a basic training/boot camp movie. It was about jrotc
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  408. think twice about it. trust me.
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  409. the air force needs smart people, so thats why the air force treats their people less like shit. not to say the army doesn't need smart people, but in the army, you are more like just a body. so thats why you get treated worse. I saw an air force basic training video where one recruit said he never had to stand still for 30 minutes before. In army reception at 120th fort jackson (reception is before actual basic), we were forced to stand still, in the cold, for literally several hours at a time (no exaggeration).
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  410. ????
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  411. of course going through in the winter
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  412. Youve got to be sarcastic. I'm sure that being an Air Force cook also sucks, but I cant imagine it sucks worse than or even as badly as Army cook does. I might be completely wrong, but I've heard that when you folks, Air Force 3C2X1 Services aren't cooking, you work in gyms. Yeah I'm sure that would suck, but it can't suck quite as badly as it does for us Army 92Golfs. When we Army 92G's aren't cooking, we are slaving out in the cold hot rainy motorpool and or the field. You can't tell me youd rather be stuck in the motorpool emptying storage sheds looking at the contents then putting it back in all day every other day. You can't tell me seriously you'd rather be setting up or packing up the containerized kitchen you see in the video out in the field (where you go weeks without showering, even cooks who are supposed to shower once every several days) in a rainstorm like I've had to do multiple times. Unmarried enlisted Air Force members are guaranteed to be allowed to move out of the "dorms" at the rank of E4 vs unmarried Army soldiers who are not guaranteed to be allowed to move out of the barracks until the rank of E6 (in some cases E5 only if the barracks are overcrowded and depending on unit). Imagine after being exhausted in the DFAC and you are harrassed by NCOs at the barracks, even at night, for a surprise inspection even if your room is clean. In the Air Force you would not have to deal with this past E4 whether you are married or not, whereas you'd have to deal with this for a few more years longer in the Army if you don't get married. Imagine having to do six to twelve mile ruck marches early in the morning hours before showing up to work in the DFAC, where you of course would be on your feet pretty much the whole time. Not all Army cooks do this all the time, but lots of Army cooks do indeed do this. I've had to do it multiple times. I seriously doubt most Air Force cooks would do this. Being a cook in the military sucks regardless, but I would bet money that Air Force cooks DON'T deal with near quite as much bullshit as Army cooks do. You've got to tell me in some detail just how Air Force cooks would have it worse than or even just as bad as Army cooks.
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  413. Navy boot camp because of the ship thing.
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  414. No
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  415. nope. be in a culinary program. do not enlist as a cook in the military. If you insist on it, I'd advise you to do it in guard or reserve and not active duty. I'd also advise you to do it in the air force instead of the army. I was an active duty army cook for four years. for the love of god, if you are considering it, please do not enlist in the army on active duty as a cook. Just don't do it.
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  416. A lesson to drive you for something better in lif.
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  417. The character Forrest Gump was in the Army, not the Marines.
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  418. You can't be serious and you have to be sarcastic but I don't know why. Signal corps maybe boring but this job cook is one of the biggest headaches you can have. The training in air truly was fun (except for the field training) but all that goes to pot when you get to your duty station.
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  419. women have served in the military, in all branches including the most physical in the Marines and the Army, for generations now. You're well over a century late with your sexism.
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  420. At 10:35.... He didn't say drill sergeants don't curse. He said cursing isn't acceptable but still drill sergeants do it anyway. You are definitely not the only one in the comments section I've seen twist what he said around and act like he said drill sergeants don't curse or don't curse anymore. Though I haven't seen any army regulation if one exists for it, I can believe him when he says that even though drill sergeants do still curse anyway, it was frowned upon at least by higher ups. I'm sure a drill sergeant is only going to curse when it's just drill sergeants and trainees. You are probably not going to hear a drill sergeant cuss around a sergeant major or lieutenant colonel.
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  421. the army did not always have drill sergeants for basic training???
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  422.  @DougKilgore-bh4ju  as a cook the whole time on active duty? Did you make E6 or E7? I've been in six years now as 92G. Still E4 because of a toxic unit and because I tried to reclass.
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  423.  @DougKilgore-bh4ju  thanks for sharing.. I myself have had it with the Army. I definitely plan on getting out in the next two years unless something drastic happens that forces me to want to stay, assuming I even could stay. If I had have joined the Air Force there still would have been stuff to complain about but I really cant stand the extra nonsense the Army does. I do appreciate the free surgeries and medical care though. I wound up as a cook because I was too close to the age cut off to wait for anything else. I had an 88 ASVAB score with a 121 GT score. My dumbass got greedy with the bonus (20 thousand) and signed a five year contract. It was absolute misery on top of the "hoah" army nonsense (being in the field and being pulled to dig a hole to look at a 240 bravo weapon for eight hours), and on top of being in a toxic unit (( was in two units, the first wasn't so bad but the second constantly screwed me over for promotion and even refused to process my PCS award). As much as I hated being in the Army I wasn't ready to get out, so I tried to reclass to radiology specialist. I failed phase 2, now I'm awaiting orders to go back to being a cook although thankfully at a different duty station. At this point I don't care anymore about trying to make E5 and as soon as my window for "TAP" (might have been called "acap" in your time) opens (I've been told 18 months from ETS, which would put me at May of next year) I plan on jumping on it. I really hope I can try to keep my sanity until then. I don't know how people can stay in this MOS for so long (I know, if they get good leadership and they are allowed to do other things aside from shift work in the DFAC). To be honest, if I was forced to choose between being infantry and cook, I would probably still rather go with cook (because infantry are janitors) but cook IS still one of the worst jobs hands down. And I truly do enjoy cooking on my own time. Screw this MOS.
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  424.  @DougKilgore-bh4ju  tbanks. I might try that or air force guard/reserves
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  425. Edwin Montoya "Amy’s a joke" Who's Amy? The girl you wanted to hook up with but a soldier got her instead?
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  426. I'll be glad to be everyone else making good money to support myself and a family on the outside when I get out, instead of a homeless bum with no job skills other than being a janitor like 11b
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  427. 6:51
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  428. Trust me, most military cooks are not nerds. I doubt even most Air Force cooks would be nerds. Definitely not Army cooks.
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  429.  @FlexYourFreedoms  youve never met one at all. I was a cook in the army for four years. some of the most violent and ratchet ghetto people I've met were cooks. Completely the opposite of anything anyone would call a "nerd" A nerd in the military would be someone who has one of the cushier jobs like IT or some of the medical jobs that require a pretty decent ASVAB score. That most definitely isn't a cook.
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  430. yeah but it is a guaranteed job with some educational and medical benefits
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  431.  @gito5812  Chill life compared to infantry where people are treated like they're still in basic training. The military (even the Air Force) and the Army (closest thing to the Marines) is still pretty rough unless you get a decent MOS and are at a decent unit.
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  432. Major Payne wouldn't really count since it was about kids JROTC and not basic training/boot camp
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  433. when i went in late 2017 i had heard that drill sergeants don't cuss anymore, yet I heard almost all of my 13 company drill sergeants cuss with the exception of 1, who would constantly say "doggone" Even our 1st sergeant cussed.
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  434. mass punishments
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  435. sorry. trust me though, this job sucks the air out of you enough.
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  436. Is Russia an "elite army" ???????? Have you kept up with the news in the last 15 months???? ROLF!!!!
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  437. It's only for Army since apparently out of the military as a whole the Army has the most problems with recruitment. But if you want to lose weight, all I can say, if you're not doing it already, is keep your diet strict with less simple carbs (eat more complex carbs like sweet potatoes) and less sugar (especially drinking soda), and do more cardio especially high intensity cardio like sprinting. It would take you a few months. Yes it will be rough but you can do it. And yeah, I'm in the Army, and I'll tell you, if you can join Air Force instead of the Army, join the Air Force instead of the Army.
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  438. Why?
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  439. Mohab Jalal I'm Army. If you are smart, you'll take the advice of a soldier and join the Air Force or the Navy. Too many reasons to list why. But you'll probably not want to listen to them and instead join the Army or Marines anyway.... then you'll regret it and wish you had have listened and joined the Air Force or Navy....
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  440. Mohab Jalal I'm Army. If you are smart, you'll take the advice of a soldier and join the Air Force or the Navy. Too many reasons to list why. But you'll probably not want to listen to them and instead join the Army or Marines anyway.... then you'll regret it and wish you had have listened and joined the Air Force or Navy....
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  441. You've got to be bullshitting. Nobody is going to do that many pushups and situps on a pt test because not only is that going to tire you out but that's way far beyond the point of necessary. And if your two mile was that time you would have failed. Cool story bro, sarcasm
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  442. especially if you are sick
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  443. yes, everyone who is in any branch military basic training has to go through gas chamber
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  444. Good point. I'm sure the people who acted like they were so scare of COVID shot were people who probably followed fear mongering from Fox news or something Though I did know a guy ( whom I happened to have shared basic with from another platoon) who used not getting the COVID shot as an excuse to get out the army. We had been in for four years at that point and he had a six year contract (I think he was 15 t) and was a corporal but he was sick of the army and couldn't wait to get iout. .but yeah that was something how people complained about the shot when we already had so many things injected in us that we didn't know.
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  445. i was a cook in the army for four years. First off I want to say that if you do want to join the military, join the navy or air force instead of the army. and pick another job instead of cook. don't be a cook in the military. if you insist on being a military cook, do it in reserve or guard instead of active duty. do it in air force guard or air force reserve. if you still insist on being an active duty military cook.... do it in air force instead of army. don't be an active duty army cook. please just listen.
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  446. soldiers
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  447. If he was some senior board member then yeah
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  448. Are you serious, or are you somebody who's already in the Army/Marines and says they wish they had joined AF instead? If you are serious, I might not be able to give the best advice since I'm Army, but I'd say take a few college courses to make yourself stand out more than other people trying to join. I'd also say study your hardest for the ASVAB to get as high of a score as you can. Even if that means going to an Army recruiter first and having that recruiter set you up for the ASVAB and then going to the AF recruiter with your scores. The Air Force is one of the if not the branch with the highest standards to join so you want to make yourself look as good as possible to make yourself stand out since they don't take just about anybody like the Army does. Of course you also want to have as clean of a criminal record as possible. Ditto for your credit report and also not have any medical conditions (even though the Air Force doesn't really do any physical things like Army, it's still the fact that since AF is much harder to get into, they might use something like eye surgery as an excuse to disqualify you).
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  449. He was not a drill instructor
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  450. because?
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  451. could be a typo or maybe he got promoted and didn't have his uniform updated
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  452. some of us are. not all of us. some of the most ghetto people i've met were other 92g's just on the fact that, aside from 11b and a few other combat and quartermaster jobs, 92g is one of the only MOS they qualified for.
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  453. being a cook in the military is another thing compared to being a civilian cook. and an army cook has to deal with more things than other branches' cooks.
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  454. you would not want to be a cook in the military and the army. i was a 92g for four years. believe it when they say it's one of the 10 or even 5 worst mos in the military.
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  455. That's all that happened to you? You didn't also get smoked for it???
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  456.  @mexispartano8381  wow
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  457. what exactly are new trainees missing by not doing the shark attack, when trainees in previous cycles would have forgotten about it over the course of the first week???
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  458. Major Payne wasn't about basic training but JROTC
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  459. You must not have met or known many army soldiers....
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  460. I've never been on a combat deployment to Iraq/Afghanistan but I've heard that being in NTC or JRTC (neither of which Ive been to luckily) are going to be worse than actual combat deployment. Hell just being in the field for a few weeks or a month without cleaning your ass Im sure is worse than actual deployment where youd at least get to shower every few days.
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  461. no cap. was 92g for four years.
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  462. 2:28 AAH GET OUT OF MY WAY!
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  463. In other words, your bmt experience apparently wasn't that drastically different from subsequent bmt's....
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  464. HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA
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  465. I'm in army and like so many other soldiers I spend plenty of time with connexes in the motor pool. Being glorified admin doesn't sound like a bad thing at all...
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  466. I've never had Marine food but I wouldn't be surprised if Marine food is even worse. By the way, miltiary and especially Army food is not supposed to be great.
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  467. you wouldn't want to be a military and army cook.
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  468. Ask most people who cant cook a damn for themselves, which is why they eat out all the time. Did you think about that before posting that comment? if cooking was that easy then most people would just go grocery shopping and cook for themselves.
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  469. i said that too when i joined it. did it for four years. screw this mos.
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  470. lame
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  471. It could get everyone else in serious trouble. In the most extreme, the recruit could become a non trainer which would mean the recruit could get chaptered (kicked out). The big problem with that is, is it won't be a quick process. The non trainer could be forced to stay for months and months longer, basically imprisoned.
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  472. Although I think there was a scene in the jack web di movie that did show a drills hand slapping the gas masks being worn by some trainees, so that would be the closest thing at least
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  473. I didn't even see an MKT in this video at all. Even if we were just "heating up a T-Ration" we're still preparing food for the swampasses to eat. I have personally grilled bacon and steaks in the field . So there is more to it than just heting up stuff.
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  474. four years as 92g. definitely
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  475. I was in basic from October 2017 to January 2018. A guy got tackled on the range by a ds for flagging other trainees.
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  476. well go back to sleep then wingnut.
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  477. this is AiT, not the operational military.
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  478. could be hundreds of thousands of dollars
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  479. Not realistic for even what it was. It was a movie about JROTC, not basic training/boot camp. So it doesn't count. Even for a JROTC movie, it wasn't realistic because you would never see a jrotc group get abused like that. I was in marine JROTC ("young Marines" myself.
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