Comments by "" (@MeanBeanComedy) on "The Rise And Fall Of Forever 21" video.

If people liked going to stores, they wouldn't be dying. You guys must be a tiny minority.
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They're working in the best possible jobs their economy can sustain for their skill levels and experience. It beats subsistence farming. If we decided to only use well-paid American workers, those women would just starve!
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@MiyuYoshida1 That is soooooo fake. They stuck it in there in China and no one saw it? Not at any warehouses or packaging plants? No one noticed the note at the three-four stops that would be made on the way to your store? Get real. We ain't five.
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Kate GIbs Isolationism won't solve anything. It just hurts everyone. Read up on the concept of comparative advantage. It's basic economics for the past 300 years.
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Kate GIbs You said the only way to solve the problem is to only make things in America. That doesn't solve anything. It increases expenses for businesses, causing them to be more likely to fail and leave people unemployed, it increases expenses for poor people in America who rely on cheaper Chinese goods to survive, and worst of all, it leaves these sweatshop workers unemployed. They're not there working long hours for little pay for fun. They're doing it for survival. Take that away from them and they'll either starve, or barely get by. Trying to overcome comparative advantage through either wishful thinking or government interference will help no one and hurt everyone.
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@Chris-oz9qx who's forcing them? No one. They're working there voluntarily. Why? Because the alternative is worse. So, yeah. They were living objectively worse lives before they began working at the current job they chose. Think this through. They didn't leave their jobs as fashion designers or high-profile lawyers to work on an assembly line. Come on.
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@Gospelofvenus If parents are sending their kids off to work, it's (again, as I've said countless times) due to the fact that it's the only way they can survive and the alternative is much worse. Rural China does not have the same level of development and opportunities as whatever suburb you grew up in. They don't compare.
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@Gospelofvenus How would any "organizations" restructure developing countries' economies to make your average workers choices no longer be between factory work or subsistence farming?
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@Gospelofvenus If you "actually care," you wouldn't be trying to take the only source of income these people have in the name of altruism.
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@Gospelofvenus They make more than anything else that's an option to them. Stop comparing their upward developing economic movement to your already-developed economy. The fact remains that working at these factories is by-far the best economic opportunity they have to improve their lives and acquire more wealth. "Working to change it" usually involves trying to put their employees out of business and forcing the workers to starve. I'd recommend you read a bit about econ instead of just swearing and going by what makes you feel like a good person.
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@Gospelofvenus "Doing my part" is participating in the economy and helping reward economic growth in developing nations instead of ignorantly forcing my first-world ideals on people struggling to make their lives better. Boycotts will make their lot objectively worse in life. Your unspecified plans to "fix the problem" are only going to exacerbate it.
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@Gospelofvenus If you were educated, you'd know "stop trying to take their source of employment from them" isn't the same as "don't fix it."
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@Gospelofvenus It's not about what I deserve. It's about economic development. China and Vietnam are, economically, where we were a few decades ago. These factory jobs help the workers acquire capital and move upwards instead of remaining subsistence farmers forever and barely getting by. Remember, as I've said countless times, they work there because it's their best option. They know what they want and they know what they need FAR more than you do. I trust these people to make their own decisions with their lives instead of trying to make their only source of income disappear by "fixing it," or whatever else you think you're going to do
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@Gospelofvenus Do you know the literal first thing about econ?
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@Gospelofvenus You want our government to force international companies to follow our labor laws? And you think that's going to somehow fix the workers' issues? You do realize how employment works, right? These companies compete for workers. They're already doing whatever they can to get better workers. That means they likely cannot afford to function of they follow US labor laws. This may come as a shock to you, but operating costs for a business takes money. Payroll takes money. Everything takes money. So if you just decide to declare "You must pay your employees triple what you pay them now!" The company folds and the workers are unemployed. You're trying to force developed country work laws onto a developing country that does not have the economic capabilities to "eat" the cost. You're woefully uninformed on economics on both the micro and the macro scale. It's nice that you want to help, but just about every idea you've come up with would dramatically hurt these workers you claim you care about. I'd really recommend you reading up a bit more on the issue. Here's a decent link: https://fee.org/articles/banning-sweatshops-only-hurts-the-poor//amp Banning Sweatshops Only Hurts the Poor - Foundation for ... https://fee.org/articles/defending-sweatshops-and-worker-choice/ Defending Sweatshops and Worker Choice - Foundation for ... https://fee.org/articles/the-virtues-of-sweatshops/ The Virtues of Sweatshops - Foundation for Economic Education https://fee.org/articles/to-abolish-sweatshops//amp To Abolish Sweatshops - Foundation for Economic Education https://fee.org/articles/how-not-to-help-sweatshop-workers//amp How Not to Help Sweatshop Workers - Foundation for ...
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@Gospelofvenus It's not an assumption. It's economic reality. It's math. I seriously cannot understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your comment, but it looks like you're trying to claim that since people disagree with me, I'm wrong? If so, that's poppycock. People, even large groups of people have been wrong a plethora of times before when they collectively decide to ignore scientific fact or are ignorant of those scientific facts altogether. I really hope you're in the latter group and you give some of those links a read.
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@Chris-oz9qx They aren't being "forced" to by anyone besides scarcity, which isn't going to stop being a factor ever. The minute a better opportunity arises, they'll leave. The fact that they still choose to voluntarily work there means there isn't one!
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