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Comments by "Antony Wooster" (@antonywooster6783) on "The War In Ukraine Is Over - Russian Soldiers EVERYWHERE" video.
2:51 "Either way it shows that Putin is not willing to compromise" This is the lie direct. Almost immediately after the invasion (Not, note the war) happened, the Russians and the Ukrainians started negotiating in Turkey. They reached a draft agreement on the "heads of discussion" I.e. the things that they would discuss in their negotiations. Then the negotiators went back to Moscow and Kiev respectively to discuss what had been achieved so far. At that point the Western powers in the form of Boris Johnson turned up in Kiev and told them that the Western Powers would not agree to the security guarantees that they had agreed to discuss and told the Ukrainians to tear up the agreement, as the West would provide enough weapons and money for the Ukrainians to hand the Russians a decisive defeat. (Or words to that effect.)
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5:14 "Who accused him of violating Ukraine's sovreignity" Yeah, yeah, yeah, just as though "the Western powers never violated anyone's sovreignity!" Just try telling that to the Afghanis, the Serbians, the Iraqis, the Chinese, or the other fifty countries that the USA has invaded and wrecked since 1945. See how well it goes down.
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Thanks. @floriangeyer1
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@yianpap6093 You cannot alter history.
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@yianpap6093 However much blood has been spilled (And God knows, a lot has been!) you cannnot alter history. Russia wanted negotiations and was rebuffed.
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@yianpap6093 The video said that the Russians were not willing to negotiate. I said that was a lie because they had negotiated in March and April 2022 and then the Collective West had persuaded Zelensky tp tear up the agreed items.. You then said that "that was then, this is now" which I took to mean, that you were supporting the the lie that Russia was not willing to negotiate. If that was not what you meant, I'm sorry I misunderstood you. (Incidentally, I still don't understand what That was then, this is now"has to do with anything.) The Russians, as I understand it. have not refused to negotiate. Their point is, that as they regard Zelensky as a Puppet, they do not see any point in negotiating with him. They are waiting for the US or "Neightoe" to offer negotiations.
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@leparibich4256 Thank you!
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@malikmogekwu9781 Thank you for your endorsement! I try not to pass on misinfrmation. Sometimes (quite often) what I do pass on, is so shocking that people cannot believe it is true.
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@ConstructiveMinds100 That has nothing to do with whether the Russians are/were willing to negotiate!
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@sparkyfromel True, it is, but it won't fly.
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Same to you.
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@yianpap6093 Right! So we agree.
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3:47 You fail to mention that back in 2008, Russia told the West that they would not tolerate having Ukraine join NA*O. They repated this several times, over the years since. The US Ambassador to Russia, William Burns, (Now head of the CIA.) told the USG "Niet means Niet". IOW "The Russians are really serious about this" In December 2021 the Russians said that they wanted negotiations with both the USA and NA*O to set up a real security apparatus for the whole of Europe and they WERE IGNORED BY BOTH. You also, (As per usual.) fail to mention the very important point that from 2015 to 2022 the Ukrainian army had been shelling the civilians in the Donbas "Because they insisted on talking Russian!" Further more, In January 2022 it became clear that the Ukrainian army was prepareing to invade the rebellious provinces, with a view to either driving out all the inhabitants or killing them. This forced the Russians to invade Ukraine to prevent this happening. (Ukraine has persisted in shelling the civilians in Donetsk City unil a couple of days ago, inspite of being desperately short of ammunition.)
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@ConstructiveMinds100 If you rely on the USA you are asking to be betrayed. the history is there to warn you. It is no secret. It is quicker and simpler to count the treaties the US has honoured than the one it has ignored or abrogated. It really is a poster-child for the saying "Countries do not have friends, only interests." Come to think of it, it is also a good illustration of anther saying: "Facts are facts." I.e. you cannot give someone that which you do not have.
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@lorenrogers9269 Thanks.
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