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Comments by "Toot My Kazoo" (@g1u2y345) on "Life Inside Putin’s Crimea" video.
@freeman_73 what?? Look at history 🤣 The Greeks settled it before the Tatars were anywhere near it. Greeks continued to inhabit it all the way up to the 18th century
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Oh of course I find you here.. Crimea was inhabited by Greeks up until 1475 in case you didn't know.
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Are you serious man? It was inhabited by Greeks up until 1475. The crimean khagnate didn't rule for long before being taken over by the Ottomans
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@wilywascal2024 it does because they are not "indigenous". It would be like calling the Spanish indigenous to the Caribbean because they arrived not long after the Greeks were conquered by the Crimean Khagnate.
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@wilywascal2024 you don't think the Spanish mixed with the native Americans?? Have you seen Mexico and South America? To define Tatars as the sole indigenous group in Crimea is just disingenuous. The Turkic Tatars have not even been there for 1000 years. Pontic Greeks have been there since at least 700 BC, That is nearly 3000 years ago.
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@wilywascal2024 you refuse to come up with actual arguments against my points and instead just spout "This organization says so!" You seem desperate to come off as smart so why don't you put that brain to use and actually refute my arguments? The peninsula was settled by Greeks since atleast 700 BC, and continued to be inhabited by Greeks all the way up until 1778 when they left for Mariupol. You claim this group of people who haven't even inhabited the peninsula for 1000 years is somehow "indigenous" but a group which inhabited the peninsula for atleast 2,478 years somehow isn't?
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@wilywascal2024 You didn't reply to a single thing I said. Every single one of your replies is like you're trying to write an essay paper for your university course. It's casual conversation, not a formal debate. You just seem pretentious
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Why would anyone want to vacation in Turkey? Especially the Orthodox..
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Its funny, if you look at the history of Crimea, neither the Russians or Ukrainians have anything to do with it. It was Greek up until 1475
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@seleukus856 go and learn some history. Turkish education seems to be lacking a bit. Greeks settled in Crimea since at least 700 BC. The turkic peoples of Crimea haven't even been there for 1000 years. The Greeks lived continously in Crimea up until the 1700s when they fled Crimea for Mariupol to flee Turkish oppression.
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I always wondered why the Greeks settled this place since I assumed it was a bit more cold. Still cool how the cities still have their Greek influence in the names.
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@faidh8 I don't support the Russians either.. do you know what Stalin did to the minorities in Crimea? Come on..
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@JGARCIA2012FULL He was the leader of Russia (USSR), he represented Russia. You can't put Stalin's crimes on Georgia, just as you can't put Hitler's crimes on Austria..
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Belongs to the Tatars? It was Greek up until 1475, where it was briefly ruled by the Crimean Khagnate, then finally under the Ottomans. It does not belong to Tatars
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I wouldn't exactly call them aboriginals.. they aren't the native inhabitants either. Greeks lived and ruled in Crimea all the way up until 1475, that's when the Crimean Khagnate came in.
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@olehsztul6177 it was not a tatar state. It was fully Greek all the way up to 1475. Go learn some history. The Crimean Khagnate didnt rule for long before the Ottomans took it over.
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@olehsztul6177 ?? It was ruled by Greeks up until 1475. First under the Bosporan kingdom, then the Roman/Byzantine Empire, then the empire of Trebizond, then finally under Theodoro. Theodoro fell in 1475.
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@olehsztul6177 The Bosporan Kingdom sided with the Pontus king Mithridates against the Romans. They were both conquered by Rome. I'm not sure why you mention how ancient the Bosporus Kingdom was as if it helps your argument. You are arguing about who are the indigenous people of Crimea and it clearly is not the Tatars, it is the Greeks. I'm not arguing for Crimea to return to Greece or something, I'm just saying it definitely doesn't belong to the Tatars.
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@olehsztul6177 Greeks mixed with the Scythians who lived north of the Crimean mountains as well. These Scythians were not Turkic peoples obviously, they actually spoke Iranian. You say Greeks are not indigenous because they colonized. Every nation on earth was "colonized" at one point. The Turkic peoples who arrived in the peninsula less than 1000 years ago also colonized it. How are they more indigenous than the people who have been there over 2000 years prior..
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@olehsztul6177 the indigenous Greeks who used to live in Crimea mostly all moved to Mariupol to escape oppression in the Crimean peninsula back when it was ruled by the Ottomans. The remaining Greek population there, who speak a pontic dialect and not mainstream Greek, are the natives of Crimea. There is even a number of villages of people with a Greek origin but speak a Tatar language, they are called Urums.
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@olehsztul6177 that Khanate was under the Ottoman empire. And Catherine didn't "relocate" them. They moved before Russia even gained control of the Crimean peninsula. Catherine invited them to the city to escape prosecution in Crimea.
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