Comments by "rob shirewood" (@robshirewood5060) on "Desert Drifter" channel.

@occultustactical6138 There seems to be a small entrance on the second one, but as it faces a large drop near the V in the rock it would be too dangerous so it could be rocks have fallen from it and are missing or slipped and fallen below. Every protective structure has to have some way to get in, climbing over those loosely placed rocks would dislodge most each time they tried. I find this fascinating as we do not have identical in the England as far as i know, but there are similar constructions in Wales and Scotland used as shelters, but with entrances. I did wonder if they were US Army Heliograph (signal mirror) lookout posts from the 1880's when the native american v American wars were taking place and the campaign against them to flash messages to troops to intercept parties of natives. But then they would need entrances too logically.
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@מוגוגוגו yes i have seen that, and also they would cover the top with a wooden frame and skin with a hole in it to reach upwards, entice an Eagle with bait like a goat etc in order to get a feather in as you say a rite of passage, to manhood. Did the tribes in the southwest I wonder.
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My guess is that the actual stopping place would have been down below so pottery etc would be down there, and only a limited number of spotters or whatever would scale the heights to the "shelters" or whatever they are. Food and water would logically be in short supply at times and to waste energy climbing in the heat or cold would be disadvantageous.
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@ranchob3751 yes but in such areas is it there permanently in sufficient quantities for whole families or groups, nomadic peoples move from area to area with their animals if they have any and there has to be enough for both people and animals as well as the wildlife in order to conserve and preserve the populations for the future visits. If they wipe out the animals or take away their food source then the area becomes somewhere they cannot gain from in future. I am looking at this from a subsistence and survival level. Even where i live in the UK which can be very wet it is often hard to find water to drink that can be made potable or in some areas non existent at times of the year. Out there in the heat or cold it would be very much more vital and a finite source. Even the commentator/ cameraman has trouble at times finding water, it must have been harder for the groups.
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Yes i have seen many on walks in Scotland, similar flat rock construction, there are also towers built the same way, similar to a Broch.
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@oneword3576 No but what he is saying is that the style of construction is similar, flat rocks same as with the cliff structures, and wattle and dawb mud infills as a plaster. In the UK "wattle and dawb" were ancient dwellings and the infill was clay, mud, animal dung, the straw/grass included which gave body to the mixture. It was plastered on over interwoven hazel panels called wattle (basically fence panels like a wicker basket weave). Coming back to the stone constructions we have similar all over UK with dry stone walls, either flat or diverse shaped rocks laid so as to build up a wall or any other structure needed including animal pens. It seems mankind all over the planet developed similar construction methods no matter how remote they are located or far apart, suggesting a common intelligence or instinct. Even our cousins the Gorillas, Apes, build beds and tree shelters the way humans do, so does bigfoot lol
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@MorrowProduction Maybe they hobbled them with cords and weights to keep them in and then raised the babies by hand so they would be "humanised and domesticated" and easier to control, the Navajo etc seem to be very good with sheep as do many in Mexico
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@KrisHughes It would make more sense to keep the sheep low down and have men and dogs either side to channel them into a holding area where they could not climb out if herding, if hunting they would need to be closer to keep them in range of bow, spear or atlatl. Having them climb ridges would be dangerous, waste energy and water, and likely make them go out of range or escape. Their rock climbing ability is amazing, so the hunters/ herders would need to get them where it is easier for the men and women too
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@kevinaldcroft6291 Yes i saw that too, but it is very close to the steep drop and there is a V notch in the rock which would be extremely dangerous.
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what is the music called at the early part of the video, thanks
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@Desert.Drifter Same here from UK, fascinating items, stay safe.
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