Comments by "Animal Farm" (@animalfarm7467) on "Socialism and Communism Poll: At an All Time High? (w/ Marion Smith)" video.

It’s always interesting how Hartmann presents his “fierce” debate with the Koch funded Marion Smith with “We had Words”, and then subtly promotes the interests of his “opponent”. He does that when he debates the Koch backed Julio Rivera and Charles Sauer, and now he is applying the same tactic with Marion Smith to denigrate Socialism. Hartmann starts off by intentionally painting a picture of East Germany with landmines exploding in the winter just to set the Socialist scene for his audience. This tactic works well when manipulate the rubes, but someone less gullible will see straight through Hartmann. This scam is much easier to understand once you learn that the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and the Clinton's Democratic Leadership Council have been backed and funded by the same person - Charles Koch. Consider the irony of the Kochs pushing this scam when their own father made his fortune building Oil Refineries for both Stalin and Hitler. These two propagandists are throwing around terms like Socialism and Communism with wild abandon; not one has a grasp of any actual meaning. Maybe the next time Hartmann has Professor Wolff on his show, he can ask Professor Wolff to explain to you how the USSR was actually State Capitalist similar to the United States of today. If this doesn’t prove that Hartmann is nothing more than “Controlled Opposition”, nothing will. Notice how Hartmann goes to great lengths to label the 20% that support Communism in a questionable survey as ignorant and “would not know the three branches of government”. Then Hartmann goes on to denigrate China and the “million” Uighurs in camps. Notice how Hartmann fails to mention the Uighurs have been radicalized by Western interests to destabilize the west of China. According to the Reuters' article, “Uighur IS fighters vow blood will 'flow in rivers' in China”, the Uighurs have been militarized in Iraq by these “Western Interests” and now they are returning to China. Isn't it ironic, you have to look outside the “Communist” media of the United States to learn the truth. You can also see this “Controlled Opposition” in Obama’s speech. Notice how after Obama praises Cuba for the health care and education it gives its people, he then goes on to say the economy isn’t working. How can the economy work when the US plutocrats have restrictive Sanctions on Cuba? You may also remember how Hartmann labeled the economy of Venezuela as failed, when the US puppet Obama labeled Venezuela as a “Threat to US National Security” and the US plutocrats’ sanctions on Venezuela have killed tens of thousands. It’s sort of like continually kicking someone in the head and then asking why they’re not getting up. The bottom line is the plutocrats cannot accept any alternate system to capitalism; you saw that when 10,000 US, British, and Japanese troops invaded Russia in 1918 during the revolution and were quickly expelled by the Bolsheviks; you see that in any country with a functioning democracy that elects a “Socialist” leader to redistribute the natural wealth of the country, and then is attacked by plutocratic agents (CIA, National Endowment for Democracy); don’t you just love the irony of these names. And when Hartmann talks about his hate of political oppression, always remember; Hartmann wants Assange prosecuted for revealing crimes of Empire. Do you ever get the impression everything you have ever learned from the corporate state, the corporate media, the corporate Hollywood, or the corporate Hartmann was a lie? If I was in court for spitting on the sidewalk and the Controlled-Opposition Hartmann was my lawyer saying he was fighting for my freedom, I would be expecting the death penalty.
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Notice when Hartmann is talking about Bernie Sanders, he labels his video, "Return of Communism?" What kind of message do you think Hartmann is attempting to send?
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Totally correct. What people fail to understand is that all major wars to date have been Capitalist Imperial Wars. The Good_War (WW2) was initially backed by Anglo-US plutocrats; even Bush's grandfather (Prescott) got into the act. Those were the days when US corporations (GM, Ford) were manufacturing military hardware for Nazi Germany; when Rockefeller was selling oil additives to the Luftwaffe, when IBM machines were keeping tabs of those unlucky enough to be forced into the death camps. And when these corporations (GM) lost assets in the allied bombing campaign over Germany; when the pilots forgot their imperial orders not to bomb certain buildings, it took until 1967 for these same companies to be paid retribution by the US taxpayer. Even Coca-Cola invented a new drink as they used the propagandists of the day to separate them from Fanta. Do you ever get that feeling your historical education has been compromised?
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Yes, but those who benefit from Imperialism like Hartmann don't want you to mention Cuban Embargoes or Venezuelan Sanctions; it tends to destroy their "Socialism doesn't work" narrative.
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@Lee-xb7lb : Don't be a naive fool. It took the power of capitalism for the few to accumulate enough wealth to control governments; it took capitalism to industrialise war and kill millions. Just look at the death toll of the US in their imperial wars since the end of WW2. Twenty percent of the population of North Korea was obliterated and all they infrastructure was destroyed; nearly 4 million killed in the Vietnam War later exposed as a scam for profit. Just look at the Iraq War where Trump said "Take the Oil"; over a million estimated killed. And what about the Clinton associate and psychopath Madeline Albright responsible for the deaths of half a million children. Eighty-five million killed just in the second world war and if the Soviets didn't sacrifice 25 million of their own fighting the two hundred German battalions sent into Operation Barbarossa, we would all be speaking German now. Remember, the combined allied forces only confronted 10 German battalions. So maybe you need to rethink your Hartmann-Libertarian scam of pushing the fake benefits of Capitalism. Maybe you need to cancel your subscription to the Mises Institute and tell Tom Woods to shove his Koch membership where the sun don't shine.
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@Lee-xb7lb : You started quoting Major-General Smedley Butler; it's misleading of you not to finish the quote, "I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." If you want to follow that up, may I suggest you read John Perkins' book, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman".
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@uncontrolledsubstance7705 : You're wasting your time arguing with cretins.
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@Lee-xb7lb : I hear Libertarians all the time quoting Smedley Butler in some pathetic attempt to capture some of this great man's credibility for their own cause. But as soon as you explain Butler's real philosophy or point of view, you can't see these Koch-Libertarians for dust.
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@Lee-xb7lb : You're repeating the old John Birch & McCarthy BS that has resided in the US since the end of WW2. It's no coincidence the FBI was created the same year as the Russian Revolution; these institutions were designed to crush any competition to the plutocrats' capitalism. Sure, you can go down the road of the Austrian-Libertarian BS, but even there you see the plutocrats (Rockefeller Foundation) importing Austrian theory (von Mises) into the US for the benefit of the plutocrats. Everywhere you look, all this Libertarian rhetoric is total BS.
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@Lee-xb7lb : If you are interested, I can even show you the Libertarian "Non-Interventionism" is also BS. What you apparently fail to recognize is what we see today is the result of capitalism. Now if Bernie gets in, he may emulate FDR and save capitalism for a few more decades; but like after Roosevelt, the capitalists with again create institutions to crush democracy and the rights of workers (e.g. American Liberty League, National Association of Manufacturers) and the whole process will repeat. Now what did Einstein say about repeating an experiment again and again, and then expecting different results?
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@Lee-xb7lb : No problem; thanks for listening. And always remember, the historically positive term of "collectivism" may have been coined by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the 18th century, but it wasn't until the 20th century that this term was then transformed into a pejorative by Charles Koch as a propaganda tool to push his ideology. The is the same Austrian-Libertarian Plutocrat who was behind Washington's assault on Venezuela and who gave you "Citizens United" and "Right to Work".
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@flickwtchr : That technique works well when you actually want to push their point of view.
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