Comments by "nexus1g" (@nexus1g) on "ABC News"
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umamimamu, when you decide to carry a gun, you have a certain increased level of responsibility to others. This includes knowing how to handle an encounter with an officer. Philando didn't take that seriously and foolishly acted. I think this man should not be a cop because he clearly escalated the situation well beyond what was necessary, but in the end, it's Philando, not the officer that died, so it's those of us who carry like Philando to make sure that we're alive at the end of the day. We can't trust anyone else with that.
You say these things in this order, clear and concise:
1. With your hands in plain view, preferably up and in front of you, and not in quick reaching distance of anything, say, "I am legally licensed to carry a gun." Accentuate the "legally licensed" part.
Typically this will begin a dialogue with the officer asking if you have a gun on you and where it is. At no time talk with your hands, don't point to where it is, don't move your hands at all.
2. If the officer seems unsure of how to proceed, simply ask the officer, "How would you like to proceed?"
If the officer still seems lost and concerned, offer to be handcuffed while sitting so he can feel safe in securing the weapon. Once the weapon is secure, ask for the officer's supervisor at that point. If he won't get his supervisor, make sure to file a complaint at the police HQ for where you're at.
Things may not go as perfectly planned on the street. The cop may even confiscate your weapon or arrest you. You just have your day in court later. That's what you get when you have cops out there making $30,000 a year with minimal training (especially in *DE*escalation tactics) whose imaginations are filled to the brim with how much danger they're in out there, like the typical US citizen is some John Rambo in the woods, stalking police. Then you put these police in neighborhoods that are foreign to them and expect them to be effective. tsk.
Well, anyway, be safe. Don't stop carrying because then you've given your safety over to those who just shot Philando, and are those people you can really trust to protect you?
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@RHINOSAUR 1. He's part of the militia per Title 10 Sec 246 of the USC. In seeking to prevent damage to innocent people from open rebellion, he was carrying out his civic duty.
2. The argument is that the gun did not cross state lines, and even if it did, see Argument 1.
3. See Argument 1. As Psaki said, federal law overrides state law.
4. Neither castle doctrine nor stand your ground laws apply here because Rittenhouse attempted to flee from Rosenbaum until Rosenbaum reached him and grabbed him. This would, if there were such a law on Wisconsin books, even reasonably satisfy a duty to flee law on the books.
5. None of that matters. Self defense is moment to moment. On legal technicality, it doesn't matter if Kyle posted that he was chomping at the bit to shoot every rioter out there. What matters is whether or not a reasonable person would believe that they were about to receive grievous bodily injury at the time the defendant shot.
The first question is was Rosenbaum using force to stop a violent incident incited by Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse was running from Rosenbaum, so I don't see how that could be the case.
If it's determined that Rosenbaum was shot in self defense, that means that Grosskreutz nor Huber were within legal authority to use violence to stop or disarm Rittenhouse. Since they were not lawful in inciting that violence against Rittenhouse, the claim of self defense stands here as well.
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