Comments by "nexus1g" (@nexus1g) on "CNN"
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anglian, I don't think that has much of anything to do with it. I think that we just need to stop stigmatizing mental health so much, ensure that people are educated on mental health issues, get education out there regarding teenage angst and its understanding, chill out on the "all hope is lost, the economy is in the toilet, this nation sucks, you have no future, half the country hates you, etc." narrative, reach out with messages to at-risk groups offering help and support and letting these individuals who are at risk for committing these acts have a healthy outlet, and more.
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Devil'sAdvocate, you're very wrong on rights being wholly subjective. Natural rights are objective to the nature of being. It has nothing to do with society, laws, people, but only the nature of existence. The nature of existence means that you must be able to adequately live. Being capable of living is the ability to defend oneself. In the case of humans, this is exercised through wicked and deadly weaponry fashioned and traded for. If we had evolved with poisonous spines, would you feel the same about this conversation should the argument be for the forced surgical removal of said spines from all people? Our continued existence in a life-threatening situation is only guaranteed by our own individual actions -- not the actions of others. If the government takes my right to own guns, and I am killed without that line of defense, does the government get punished? Does my local Congressman lose his life? Of course not. It's only my life lost and no one else's, so it's only my responsibility and no one else's.
"You are completely downplaying slavery and it's popularity before it's downfall."
I don't have to give you my version. Let me simply quote Jefferson in a draft of the Declaration of Independence: "he [King George] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another."
"I think something needs to change. We lead the world in school shootings. You may not think things need to change and are fine with our status as the world leader in children dying in school shootings. We will see who is on the right side of history here. I'm done debating this point."
You didn't debate. You just restated your original opinion while completely not addressing my points at all.
"Do you really, really think that your backyard firearms are a match for our military and government technology have nowadays? Really? If our government wanted to subdue us, they would do it with or without your little peashooters. I worked for an entity that dealt with military weapon/technology. Let me just say that a 'peoples revolution' would be quickly annihilated. In less than a day. "
Like in Afghanistan? Here we are 17 years later.
"because 'Murica?"
No, "because it's a natural right."
I thought you were interested in having an actual discussion, but when one comes your way, you shut down awfully quick. You're not just looking to slap around the low-hanging fruit, are you?
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empbac, Parkland had one resource officer that sat outside while he listened to shots going off, knowing kids were dying. More arms, more chances someone will stop the shooter.
When he attacked "the left", the girl behind him said that he doesn't know any of their political affiliations, and that's why he narrowed it to the ones backing this movement and said that he wasn't attacking anyone personally -- which he wasn't.
There are two types of instinctual responses in psychology: fight or flight. No one can look inside you. You have to figure out for yourself whether you're a fight or flight person. That deputy in the school was a flight person.
Why don't we need armed soldiers in schools? Even if we ban all guns, a huge guy with a knife can come into a Kindergarten class and kill young kids, and without some sort of force equalizer, there's not a thing a teacher may be able to do about it. I use this as an example because this has happened in nations where guns are completely banned from citizens. If you care about children's lives, you would want to give them good protection.
If I were a teacher in a classroom during a school shooting, locked in the room with my students, I'd much rather have a gun than not have one. The former gives you a chance, the latter doesn't.
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JNagarya, you're very ignorant on this subject. The Bill of Rights are all natural rights. They're listed as they're the most frequently attacked natural rights. And you're right that it might not have been necessary. In fact, Hamilton argued in The Federalist #84 that no matter their wording, a Bill of Rights may be used as a "colorable" pretext to grant the government powers that it doesn't have. This is exactly what you're doing.
Furthermore, natural rights has nothing to do whether any god exists or not. Natural rights are objective reality of pre--government human existence.
Gun ownership is, in objective fact, a right. What your example addresses is how government provides justice to individuals' natural rights. Our rights extend to the point where we infringe on another's rights. For instance, if you rob a bank, you have infringed on others' natural right to ownership of property. Therefore, the government provides justice for this infringement by removing the rights of the criminal through, and this is a very important part, due process of law .
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