Comments by "Kenneth Dean Miller" (@kennethdeanmiller7324) on "Drachinifel"
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I also wanted to address something that you related to in Drydock 127 about the basic human nature of people suffering is NOT a good thing. And it reminded me of a US submarine Captain machine gunning survivors in the water. And, although he thought they were Japanese Army a good many of them were actually POW's from India, I think. And you also remarked that he actually received a medal for doing this. When in actuality he should have been reprimanded for it. Or he should have taken as many survivors as he could on board or something rather than killing them in the water. But, yeah, I live in the US but in no way am I delusional about right & wrong. And it's difficult to try to argue that the US Submarine Captain was right to kill those people. Although I do understand that he thought they were Japanese troops & wanted to kill them in order to save American troops. That still doesn't make it right. From a "naval" perspective of course it's about sinking ships & not about killing as many people as you can. But also from the Japanese point of view they were TRYING to kill as many Americans as they could in the hope that the war would become too costly for the USA in the amount of lives being lost in the hopes the USA would broker a peace agreement favorable to the Japanese. But that doesn't mean that Kamikaze's were a good thing either. And yeah, I totally agree that human suffering should be looked at as, those terribly unfortunate people! And sometimes during war people do the right & honorable thing. And sometimes they don't. And sometimes there are just circumstances that keep sailors from doing what should be done. Like rescuing survivors from Bismark. It was a good thing that they rescued as many as they did. But unfortunately they didn't rescue all of them. And as cold as that water was it was practically a death sentence for those that were left in the water. And that is a very unfortunate thing. Yeah, regardless of what side you are on, looking at history and hearing about humans suffering, & relating that story to others, I totally agree that sailors needlessly suffering a cruel fate should be looked at from a human perspective rather than they were "the enemy" so their suffering was a good thing!
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@readingrailroadfan7683 To be honest, when the war first broke out, radar aboard ships, I think, was fairly new. And judging by the Guadal Canal campaign alone A LOT of the ship Captains & Admirals were NOT very sure of their radars capabilities. And with new & better radar systems coming on line & being installed on ships, it's also painfully obvious that most Captains & Admirals didn't realize or understand the advantages & disadvantages of the radar systems and how to use them & also what ships had the newest & better radars in their fleet. You also have to realize that some of these Admirals at Guadal Canal had just shown up at Guadal Canal and had barely had time to even get acquainted with the ships they were commanding before they were thrusted into battle with a Japanese force that was very experienced & new & trusted the capabilities of their Captains & crew. Furthermore, the commanding Admirals for the US would tell their Captains to NOT fire without orders. Leaving most of their ships at a MAJOR disadvantage waiting on orders to fire when it's painfully obvious that enemy is approaching. The Naval Battles of Guadal Canal are a textbook example of how NOT to command a fleet of ships. And a major reason that the US set up CIC Centers.
Furthermore, imho, the Naval Battles of Guadal Canal were an embarrassment to the US Navy and they lost A LOT of good ships & crew simply because they had Admirals that didn't know & trust their Captains & Captains that didn't trust their crews. I think USS Chicago is a prime example of a Captain NOT knowing how his radar system works. However, that Captain was a "know it all" that clearly didn't know it all. And was told to take command but decided to go back to sleep instead & a lot of people got killed cuz he wanted to sleep. However, Admiral "Ching" Lee is a prime example of an Admiral that fully understood the capabilities of his ships radar and how to use it in order to obtain a fast & accurate firing solution for his ship's guns. And that was how Kirishima got sunk while being tunnel focused firing at USS South Dakota. However, the four destroyers that were screening for USS Washington evidently had problems picking up the IJN as they came into view from behind Savo Island & were blown out of the water & sunk because of it. I'm not sure if that was because of trusting their radar too much or that lookouts just didn't see the ships because of Savo Island or both or what.
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I have always rejoiced to start a Drydock that is 4 hours + and lie back & start listening! And then I end up having to go back & figure out exactly where/ when I fell asleep & start over from there in the morning. One of my favs of those was when I was trying to figure out that exact scenario to discover Drach was the Mediator for the US Navy Panel during a discussion of The 80th Anniversary of The Battle of Leyte Gulf. And I'm so terrible with names, and I am a huge fan of Drach's, I still can't remember his real name. To me he is Drach or Drachinifel & always will be!
But also, after that discussion people were asking questions. And a man, whom I think lost his father aboard the USS Johnston, asked the question that "After the Johnston had deployed her torpedoes and had lost one of her screws, shouldn't Captain Evans had withdrawn & preserved his crew?
And although other panelist gave there little 2 cents to this question, Drach gave the man the answer that he already knew in his heart but desperately did not want to hear. But it was truly the whole reason the destroyers & destroyer escorts fought so hard during the Naval Battle of Samar. They were fighting so the escort carriers could get away. There were 6 escort carriers with about 900 sailors on each one. That's approximately 5,000 men that would be vulnerable with little to no protection but those destroyers & destroyer escorts and Johnston & the others were doing their best to distract the Japanese long enough for them to get away. And they had pretty much already fatally committed themselves to this task.
For Drach & all the other panelist, it was a very defining moment of the discussion. And for Drach it showed how much more he was in tune with what had happened during that action than all the other panelist! It was the greatest moment of that entire discussion because it was asked by a man that lost his father in that action and Drach gave him the best answer of all the panelist and in my opinion the whole reason the Johnston fought until it was a sinking wreck. And that reason was to preserve the escort carriers, which it did mainly accomplish, along with the help of a lot of planes, pilots & air crews as well.
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