Comments by "" (@ericp1139) on "Toxins Didn’t Kill Hiking Family" video.

  1. It just needs to kill or incapacitate 1 or 2 of the parents. The baby and dog won’t escape on their own.
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  2.  @himhim3344  no, it’s careless no matter how much water you have with you. Especially with a baby.
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  3.  @himhim3344  stop acting like people don’t die from it. People die in urban cities with access to water from heat. I don’t even know why you’re fighting about this.
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  4.  @himhim3344  no, you actually won’t. Water alone isn’t enough to stop heat stroke. It’s for dehydration.
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  5.  @whocares11222  typical Conservative, assuming everyone is a Liberal.
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  6. Why is it strange? A dog can die from heat and toxins too. A chocolate bar could kill a dog.
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  7. Just do a thought experiment if you were in their shoes: it’s triple digit heat, you decide to soak yourselves in questionable water in desperation to stay cool. Your family then gets sick from the toxic water and heat. Your spouse becomes incapacitated. You now have to make a decision. Do you leave your spouse behind to look for help and risk them dying alone? Or do you try to stay with them and hope help comes by? And neither option guarantees survival.
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  8.  @jansonshine9082  you wouldn’t even need to drink it. If they tried to splash it in their bodies to cool off, that would be enough to get them sick.
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  9.  @jeremys6631  dogs can absolutely die from heat. And who says they all died at the same time? Only 1 of the parents needs to be incapacitated to strand the family.
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  10. It’s child abuse.
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  11.  @THE_ROYALS2019  who says they died at the same time?
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  12.  @TWD_Znation  it said they were found dead together. It did not say they all died at the same time.
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  13. Yup. If only there was any precedent of people dying from heat?
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  14. @Adrian Vieta who said they all died simultaneously?
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  15.  @sandygied7318  they died around the same area, but it’s unknown the time each died.
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  16. Nobody said they all died at once. All it would take is 1 parent to become incapacitated to put the whole family in trouble.
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  17.  @nuttybar9  then go to the beach.
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  18.  @dantan1249  who knows what the dog would or wouldn’t do?
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  19.  @Trogdor1365  “avid” hiker does not mean “professional” hiker. Like, I can be an avid player of basketball, but that doesn’t mean I’m good at it.
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  20.  @THE_ROYALS2019  that just means they died in the same vicinity. Nowhere does it say they died at the same time.
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  21.  @evofan6812  you don’t know what their dog would have done.
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  22.  @evofan6812  the news said they were found together. It did not say they died together. And who says heat can’t kill a group of people?
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  23.  @maxalberts2003  why such an elaborate suicide? Why hike 8 miles in triple digit heat? Why leave such a mystery of how or why?
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  24.  @exploding_pineapples  who said they all died at once?
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  25. No, they’re not. Heat and toxic algae can kill dogs too.
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  26.  @Jahairalove84  they don’t know what they died from yet.
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  27.  @gojira4036  what? Where’s you read that?
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  28.  @nuttybar9  so you’re saying they’re just bad parents?
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  29.  @laurie7689  dogs die from heat too.
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  30.  @mikebooth5942  how did you come to that conclusion?
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  31. Why’s it impossible? And they were found in the same area, but there’s no way to know they died at the same time.
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  32.  @--2  how do you know what the dog would have done?
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  33.  @jeremys6631  a dog can absolutely die from heat and dehydration. Where y’all getting the idea they can’t?
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  34.  @TheBoochoo21  it was triple digits I’m the whole area. And you’d only need to incapacitate 1 of the parents to put the family in trouble.
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  35.  @lvanasse2  they did have water, and they drank most of it.
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  36.  @msgottaneedtoknow  actually, it’s not easy to determine heat stroke from autopsy. You would need to take the core temperature close to the time of death to determine heat-related death. If the body had been left out too long, you lose that chance.
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  37.  Ry Mak  heat kills dogs too.
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  38.  @CDCOR  why not? Dogs aren’t invincible.
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  39.  @RH-tv9hk  you can only determine heat stroke if you can get to the body close to death to get its core temperature. If the person died too long ago, then you lose the chance to test for heat stroke. It’s not that easy to test for heat stroke.
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  40.  Ry Mak  not any more than a human. Dogs aren’t some super animal.
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  41.  @laurie7689  you don’t know what any of them would do. You’re just imagining scenarios.
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  42.  Ry Mak  what does stamina have to do with anything? If anything, the dog would likely be the first to die from heat.
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  43. Heat
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  44. Heat related death actually isn’t that simple to detect. You would need to take the core temperature of a body close to time of death. If the body has been dead for too long, you would not get the temperature readings.
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  45.  @kimkrebs7979  who said they all died at the same time? All you need is 1 adult to become incapacitated to put the whole family in trouble. Let’s say the husband passes out first. Does the wife abandon him and try to find help? Or stay with him in hopes someone comes by to help?
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  46. Why is it weird? If you boil 3 eggs in a pot, do they boil differently?
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  47. Irresponsible parents. Kids get left in hot cars all the time.
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  48. What makes dogs special?
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  49.  @bridgetbreitzmann4721  you have no idea what the dog would do. And we don’t know if they died at the same time. All it would take is 1 adult to become incapacitated to put the family in trouble.
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  50. Or just irresponsible.
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  51. Toxicology is clean. They likely died from heat.
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  52. They said it was triple digit heat with no shade.
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  53.  @allaboutboxing1059  then there would be signs of lightning damage.
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  54.  @allaboutboxing1059  and it kills things with no trace?
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  55.  @Trogdor1365  well sure, but hiking is just glorified walking.
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  56.  @amandar2219  what?
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  57.  @aerozin  no, dogs only do that if they’re starving.
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  58.  @dantan1249  but there was no shade. Maybe it was tethered to something or it was clingy enough that it didn’t want to abandon the family. We can’t predict what anyone’s dog will do in such a desperate situation.
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  59.  @AndrewKW12  it definitely forces the able parent to make a tough decision: leave the incapacitated parent behind or stay put and hope some other hikers crazy enough to hike in triple digit heat will come by to help. Neither guarantees survival.
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  60.  @AndrewKW12  I feel awful for the parent that had to make the decision, either watching the family die, or knowing they all will.
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  61. Toxicology reports turned up no poisons.
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  62.  @himhim3344  I’m fairly sure they would have drenched themselves in that algae water to cool off. But that would be enough to get you sick.
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  63. Why would the dog help? It’s not Lassie. And you don’t need all of them to die at the same time; you just need 1 parent to get incapacitated to put the family in trouble.
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  64.  @lestranged  instantly what?
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  65.  @gagetaylor192  and abandon the wife and baby?
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  66. Triple digit heat with no shade and 8 miles from the car? Pretty sure it was a heat-related death, chief. And if they drenched themselves in toxic algae water to stay cool, that would have made them sick. You’d only need 1 of the parents to get incapacitated to get the whole family in trouble. Don’t go hiking with a baby in triple digit heat, folks.
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  67. Heat stroke
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  68. It’s tricky. You’d have to test the core temperature of a recently deceased corpse. The longer the body has been dead, the less likely you can get a reading to determine heat death.
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  69. @UCkrzELVDQnDl6wxH6FDMAFg why not?
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  70.  American TopGunner  how is that even true?
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  71.  @exploding_pineapples  why wouldn’t it match with heat stroke? Let’s say they splashed the toxic water on them to stay cool, that could have gotten them sick, and compounding that with the heat could have done them in.
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  72.  @exploding_pineapples  could have been a combination. The algae could have made them sick or delirious, and the heat could have finished them off. It certainly would not have helped.
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  73.  @exploding_pineapples  toxicology report isn’t a magic bullet. It’ll just screen for drugs and stuff, but it’ll be hard to isolate algae toxins.
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  74.  @moonbeammagic7499  8 miles from the car.
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  75.  @Rep0007  lighting strikes leaves trauma.
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  76.  AllGuts NoGlory  there was no shade. The only water was what they brought and that nasty algae water.
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  77.  AllGuts NoGlory  you don’t know what the dog would do.
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  78. Not true. A heat stroke can only be detected if the body’s core temperature is taken near time of death. If the body has been dead for too long, they can no longer take the reading.
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  79. Dogs die from heat all the time.
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  80. How?
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  81. What made you come to that conclusion?
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  82.  @mrsx7944  heat affects everything in an area. Why wouldn’t it cook the adult and dog at the same time?
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  83.  @Rep0007  lightning leaves trauma.
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  84.  Ry Mak  the heat was uniform everywhere. There is no shade there and the only water was what they brought and that nasty algae water. Judging by breed of dog, that thing might have even been the first to die.
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  85. What made you come up with this theory?
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  86. Heat
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  87. I’m thinking they may have gotten desperate in the heat and used the toxic algae water to cool off. And once they get sick from that water, it’s out of their hands.
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